Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, May 10, 2012 01:59:55 AM Richard A Steenbergen 

 There is a serious issue with MPLS RSVP auto-bandwidth in
 10.4R9, which can cause the reservation calculations to
 be off by quite a bit. The least broken code we've found
 so far is 10.4S9, I'm surprised they haven't done an R10
 yet.

As far back as I can remember, Richard, you've pretty much 
had this particular issue with almost every major train 
Juniper have released :-).

Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-21 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 03:43:33PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
 On Thursday, May 10, 2012 01:59:55 AM Richard A Steenbergen 
 
  There is a serious issue with MPLS RSVP auto-bandwidth in
  10.4R9, which can cause the reservation calculations to
  be off by quite a bit. The least broken code we've found
  so far is 10.4S9, I'm surprised they haven't done an R10
  yet.
 
 As far back as I can remember, Richard, you've pretty much 
 had this particular issue with almost every major train 
 Juniper have released :-).

I wish it was a single issue, at least then I would have one definite 
thing to bitch about. It's more like a dozen different issues affecting 
the same subsystem, in a dozen different versions of code, over the last 
couple of years. You could say the same thing about SNMP, it's been 
broken about as many times over about as many different revisions 
(including recent ones :/).

10.4S9 does seem to have solved this latest issue, which was causing 
wildly inaccurate reservations. It's almost comical when RSVP tries to 
reserve a several petabit LSP (not much to do with recent JUNOS except 
laugh at this point, right? :P), but it's a lot less funny when nearly 
empty high-priority LSPs get mis-calculated to several gigabits and 
start causing incorrect preemptions...

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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-21 Thread Keegan Holley
The answer is pretty much the same with every code version.  You can query
the list for what others think are relevant bugs, but it's largely
subjective.  Depends on the size of your network, the services you use and
where you're upgrading from.  If you're already in the 10.4 train upgrading
to a new release is (some list members may differ) supposed to provide bug
fixes only and no new features or bugs.  If you are coming from a much
older code you may see new bugs that weren't there before as well as
changes in features or syntax.  Generally, speaking I haven't come across
many bugs in 10.4 although we're running an older release.  According to
their software lifecycle policy there shouldn't be any bugs in 10.4R9 that
aren't in earlier versions of 10.4.  As I said earlier though YMMV
considerably.


2012/5/9 Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu

 It has been a couple of months since the JTAC recommended Junos software
 versions has been updated for the MX.   As of February, the recommendation
 was to use 10.4R8.5 for the MX, except that there is an issue related to
 BFD configurations on the DPC line cards.   Supposedly, the fix is in
 10.4R9.

 In looking at the release notes, there are some issues that have been
 resolved in the 11.x series but nothing noted yet for any future 10.4.x
 releases.   Perhaps there are future 10.4.x versions planned to carry
 forward these fixes?

 I am curious to know about anyone's experience with 10.4R9 over the past
 few months.  I have DPC only currently; i.e. no MPC hardware -- and no
 MultiServices.

 Thanks.



 Clarke Morledge
 College of William and Mary
 Information Technology - Network Engineering
 Jones Hall (Room 18)
 Williamsburg VA 23187
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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-10 Thread Daniel Verlouw
Hi,

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net 
wrote:
 There is a serious issue with MPLS RSVP auto-bandwidth in 10.4R9, which
 can cause the reservation calculations to be off by quite a bit. The
 least broken code we've found so far is 10.4S9, I'm surprised they
 haven't done an R10 yet.

do you have a PR for this? What are the circumstances? Haven't seen
this, but to be honest, haven't paid very close attention to it :)

I was told that R10 should be available early May, possibly even this week...

   --Daniel.
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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-10 Thread Daniel Verlouw
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu wrote:
 I am curious to know about anyone's experience with 10.4R9 over the past few
 months.  I have DPC only currently; i.e. no MPC hardware -- and no
 MultiServices.

I've been hit by:
PR570168 - RE crash triggered by deletion and recreation of multiple
vt/lsi IFLs in quick successions. I saw this once right after an
upgrade. Nice that both RE's crash simultaneously...
PR724638 - cosd crash

but other than that, i haven't seen any major issues.

  --Daniel.

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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-10 Thread Serge Vautour
We've started to implement 10.4R9 in Prod. A few MX960s with MPC  DPC mix and 
MX80s have been upgraded without a problem (knock on wood!). We use L2VPN  
VPLS with OSPF/LDP/BGP.


Serge




 From: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:13:26 PM
Subject: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?
 
It has been a couple of months since the JTAC recommended Junos software 
versions has been updated for the MX.   As of February, the recommendation was 
to use 10.4R8.5 for the MX, except that there is an issue related to BFD 
configurations on the DPC line cards.   Supposedly, the fix is in 10.4R9.

In looking at the release notes, there are some issues that have been resolved 
in the 11.x series but nothing noted yet for any future 10.4.x releases.   
Perhaps there are future 10.4.x versions planned to carry forward these fixes?

I am curious to know about anyone's experience with 10.4R9 over the past few 
months.  I have DPC only currently; i.e. no MPC hardware -- and no 
MultiServices.

Thanks.



Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187
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[j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-09 Thread Clarke Morledge
It has been a couple of months since the JTAC recommended Junos software 
versions has been updated for the MX.   As of February, the recommendation 
was to use 10.4R8.5 for the MX, except that there is an issue related to 
BFD configurations on the DPC line cards.   Supposedly, the fix is in 
10.4R9.


In looking at the release notes, there are some issues that have been 
resolved in the 11.x series but nothing noted yet for any future 10.4.x 
releases.   Perhaps there are future 10.4.x versions planned to carry 
forward these fixes?


I am curious to know about anyone's experience with 10.4R9 over the past 
few months.  I have DPC only currently; i.e. no MPC hardware -- and no 
MultiServices.


Thanks.



Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187
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Re: [j-nsp] Update on 10.4R9 stability for MX?

2012-05-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 03:13:26PM -0400, Clarke Morledge wrote:
 It has been a couple of months since the JTAC recommended Junos 
 software versions has been updated for the MX.  As of February, the 
 recommendation was to use 10.4R8.5 for the MX, except that there is an 
 issue related to BFD configurations on the DPC line cards.  
 Supposedly, the fix is in 10.4R9.
 
 In looking at the release notes, there are some issues that have been 
 resolved in the 11.x series but nothing noted yet for any future 
 10.4.x releases.  Perhaps there are future 10.4.x versions planned to 
 carry forward these fixes?
 
 I am curious to know about anyone's experience with 10.4R9 over the 
 past few months.  I have DPC only currently; i.e. no MPC hardware -- 
 and no MultiServices.

There is a serious issue with MPLS RSVP auto-bandwidth in 10.4R9, which 
can cause the reservation calculations to be off by quite a bit. The 
least broken code we've found so far is 10.4S9, I'm surprised they 
haven't done an R10 yet.

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