Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
Hi Dan and others, On 2018-07-16 06:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to KDE by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection available, free of worry to find undesired contents. Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best way to proceed. I would like to contribute, but depends on what exactly we need to do. :-) What kind of help could we provide? Regards, Fred -- Linux User #228171 Espaço digital: http://teia.bio.br Perfil social: http://hub.vilarejo.pro.br/channel/aracnus "Liberdade, essa palavra que o sonho humano alimenta, que não há ninguém que explique e ninguém que não entenda." (Cecília Meireles)
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
I would like to be a moderator! It might be a good idea to post this publicly somewhere too; I've encountered a number of KDE users who have asked how they can help clean up store.kde.org content. We could even make this a new entry point on https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved. Nate On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:25 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote > Hello chums :) > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > want > to have there. > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to have > a > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to KDE > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > available, > free of worry to find undesired contents. > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best way > to > proceed. > > Thank you! :D > > -- > ..dan / leinir.. > http://leinir.dk/ > > >
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: > I would like to be a moderator! Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an opendesktop.org account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set up with the right rights? :) > It might be a good idea to post this > publicly somewhere too; I've encountered a number of KDE users who have > asked how they can help clean up store.kde.org content. Not a bad idea at all, there! :) I'm pondering on doing a blog post on the topic, so i might just go ahead and do that ;) > We could even make > this a new entry point on https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved. Ooh... Yes, perhaps that first, then blog post pointing to it :) > Nate > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:25 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > wrote > > Hello chums :) > > > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain > > it > > > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > > want to have there. > > > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > > have a > > > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > > KDE > > > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, > > or > > > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > > way to proceed. > > > > Thank you! :D > > > > -- > > ..dan / leinir.. > > http://leinir.dk/ -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
Will it be possible to curate-separate things that are not compatible with Plasma 5? There's a lot of ancient stuff out there that's 10 years old and really shouldn't show up as available in the KNewStuff offerings for Plasma 5.13. Icon sets are the most visible example. On 07/16/2018 11:17 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: I would like to be a moderator! Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an opendesktop.org account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set up with the right rights? :) It might be a good idea to post this publicly somewhere too; I've encountered a number of KDE users who have asked how they can help clean up store.kde.org content. Not a bad idea at all, there! :) I'm pondering on doing a blog post on the topic, so i might just go ahead and do that ;) We could even make this a new entry point on https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved. Ooh... Yes, perhaps that first, then blog post pointing to it :) Nate On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:25 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote > Hello chums :) > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain > it > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > want to have there. > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > have a > > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > KDE > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, > or > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > way to proceed. > > Thank you! :D > > -- > ..dan / leinir.. > http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
It will be, yes. Initially we can simply mark it to not show up on Plasma clients (that is what the two patches linked from the task here are about: https://phabricator.kde.org/T6133 ). Later we will be able to add dependency and version information, but for now we can simply mark the things that are not useable from the Get New X dialogues. Indeed, that is an important part of the curating process: The data will still be visible on the website, but with those patches we become able to hide things that don't make sense in e.g. Plasma :) On Monday, 16 July 2018 21:20:44 BST Scott Harvey wrote: > Will it be possible to curate-separate things that are not compatible > with Plasma 5? There's a lot of ancient stuff out there that's 10 years > old and really shouldn't show up as available in the KNewStuff offerings > for Plasma 5.13. Icon sets are the most visible example. > > On 07/16/2018 11:17 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: > >> I would like to be a moderator! > >> > >Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an > >opendesktop.org > > > > account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set > > up with the right rights? :) > > > >> It might be a good idea to post this > >> publicly somewhere too; I've encountered a number of KDE users who have > >> asked how they can help clean up store.kde.org content. > >> > >Not a bad idea at all, there! :) I'm pondering on doing a blog post on > >the > > > > topic, so i might just go ahead and do that ;) > > > >> We could even make > >> this a new entry point on https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved. > >> > >Ooh... Yes, perhaps that first, then blog post pointing to it :) > >> > >> Nate > >> > >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 02:39:25 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > >> > >> wrote > >> > >> > Hello chums :) > >> > > >> > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to > >> > maintain > >> > it > >> > > >> > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with > >> > what we > >> > want to have there. > >> > > >> > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility > >> > to > >> > have a > > >> > > >> > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > >> > > >> > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute > >> > to > >> > KDE > >> > > >> > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > >> > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > >> > > >> > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a > >> > whole, > >> > or > >> > > >> > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the > >> > best > >> > way to proceed. > >> > > >> > Thank you! :D > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ..dan / leinir.. > >> > http://leinir.dk/ -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:18 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote > On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: > > I would like to be a moderator! > > Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an opendesktop.org > account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set up > > with the right rights? :) Yes, and my ID appears to be 505663. Nate
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 16:50:49 BST Nate Graham wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:18 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > wrote > > On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: > > > I would like to be a moderator! > > > > > Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an > > opendesktop.org > > > > account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set > > up with the right rights? :) > > Yes, and my ID appears to be 505663. > > Nate Thanks! :D Right, so the way we'll be doing the assigning of the rights is that we open a task on the KDE Store phab[1], that way we can also keep it open and whatnot. It's also the way work is managed in the store team, so it just seems the sensible way of doing it :) [1] https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/146/ -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
OK, I've got my access now. Do we have any sort of documentation for the moderation process? I don't want to break anything. Like Scott, what I'm most interested in right now is identifying old content indended for KDE4 that no longer works in Plasma 5 and/or Frameworks 5 so we can make it not show up for current users of recent KDE software. Nate On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:50:49 -0700 Nate Graham wrote > > > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:18 -0700 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > wrote > > On Monday, 16 July 2018 17:01:59 BST Nate Graham wrote: > > > I would like to be a moderator! > > > > Hi Nathan, and thanks for stepping up! :D Do you have an > opendesktop.org > > account, and in that case could you send me the ID, so we can get you set > up > > with the right rights? :) > > Yes, and my ID appears to be 505663. > > Nate >
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
Hi, I'd like to offer my help as well :) Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by suggesting/requesting changes to the author. Cheers Nicolas On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: Hello chums :) One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we want to have there. The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to have a group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to KDE by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection available, free of worry to find undesired contents. Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best way to proceed. Thank you! :D
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:14 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to offer my help as well :) > > Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and > of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by > suggesting/requesting changes to the author. > > Cheers > > Nicolas > > > On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > Hello chums :) > > > >One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain > it > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what > we want > > to have there. > > > >The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility > to have a > > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > >This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute > to KDE > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > available, > > free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > >Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, > or > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > way to > > proceed. > > > >Thank you! :D > > > >
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
I would like to help! Cheers, Scarlett On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:42 PM Scarlett Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:14 PM Nicolas Fella > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to offer my help as well :) >> >> Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and >> of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by >> suggesting/requesting changes to the author. >> >> Cheers >> >> Nicolas >> >> >> On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: >> > Hello chums :) >> > >> >One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to >> maintain it >> > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what >> we want >> > to have there. >> > >> >The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility >> to have a >> > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. >> > >> >This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute >> to KDE >> > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection >> available, >> > free of worry to find undesired contents. >> > >> >Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a >> whole, or >> > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best >> way to >> > proceed. >> > >> >Thank you! :D >> > >> >>
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
Hey Nicolas! Although I haven’t (yet) committed to helping out on this project, I’m still offering my opinions. Personally, I wouldn’t like to see the store curators judging the submissions on quality. Our personal tastes might influence our decisions. It would be like an art museum curator not displaying a work because he doesn’t think anyone would like it. I think the curators should focus on keeping the store clean of things that _don’t work_, look out for obvious copies of other people’s code, etc. If someone puts up something that’s “stupid” or worthless, it’ll get voted down by other users. My own two Plasmoids are hovering at exactly 2.5 stars each. Maybe they’re not so useful after all. :D -Scott (sharvey) On Jul 19, 2018, 1:14 PM -0500, Nicolas Fella , wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to offer my help as well :) > > Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and > of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by > suggesting/requesting changes to the author. > > Cheers > > Nicolas > > > On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > Hello chums :) > > > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > > want > > to have there. > > > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to have a > > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to KDE > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > available, > > free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best way > > to > > proceed. > > > > Thank you! :D > > >
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On lunes, 16 de julio de 2018 11:39:25 (CEST) Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > Hello chums :) > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > want to have there. > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to have > a group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to KDE > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best way > to proceed. > > Thank you! :D Hey Dan, We (promo people) were wondering... Would it help if we gave this a push on social media? I know you probably don't want to manage an army of 100s of moderators, but if there is a place, a mail address or something, where the general public can send messages telling you about problematic stuff they have found within the store, it may be helpful, right? What do you think? Cheers Paul -- Promotion & Communication www: http://kde.org Mastodon: https://mastodon.technology/@kde Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:14:08 BST Nicolas Fella wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to offer my help as well :) Great! Send me your opendesktop.org user ID (the number in the URL if your profile page) and we'll get you set up as moderator. > Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and > of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by > suggesting/requesting changes to the author. We are not curators in that sense, that is what the voting system is for. Of course, we can certainly give comments to the authors, just like any other community member, but being a moderator does /not/ give us any right to think our view on the fluffier concepts is any more worthy than others (as Scott also comments on). The only quality note which this moderation is supposed to be for is technical quality. Say, for example, an item is in fact an icon theme, but isn't packaged in a way that Plasma can consume - that is still an icon theme and should stay downloadable from the website, but it makes no sense to see it in the Get New Icon Themes dialogue, and so we can mark it as excluded from GHNS. This is also, of course, why we need both guidelines and instructions for moderators, so we can avoid confusion about responsibilities and whatnot :) > Cheers > > Nicolas > > On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > Hello chums :) > > > >One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain > >it > > > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > > want to have there. > > > >The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > >have a> > > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > >This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > >KDE > > > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > >Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, > >or > > > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > > way to proceed. > > > >Thank you! :D -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
Great, thanks! Send us your opendesktop.org user ID (the number in the URL if your profile page) and we'll get you set up as moderator :) On Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:43:23 BST Scarlett Clark wrote: > I would like to help! > Cheers, > Scarlett > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:42 PM Scarlett Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:14 PM Nicolas Fella > > > > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'd like to offer my help as well :) > >> > >> Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and > >> of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by > >> suggesting/requesting changes to the author. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Nicolas > >> > >> On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > >> > Hello chums :) > >> > > >> >One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to > >> > >> maintain it > >> > >> > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what > >> > >> we want > >> > >> > to have there. > >> > > >> >The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility > >> > >> to have a > >> > >> > group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > >> > > >> >This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute > >> > >> to KDE > >> > >> > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > >> > >> available, > >> > >> > free of worry to find undesired contents. > >> > > >> >Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a > >> > >> whole, or > >> > >> > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > >> > >> way to > >> > >> > proceed. > >> > > >> >Thank you! :D -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:52:51 BST Scott Harvey wrote: > Hey Nicolas! (i'm not Nicolas, but hi! ;) ) > Although I haven’t (yet) committed to helping out on this project, I’m still > offering my opinions. > > Personally, I wouldn’t like to see the store curators judging the > submissions on quality. Our personal tastes might influence our decisions. > It would be like an art museum curator not displaying a work because he > doesn’t think anyone would like it. > > I think the curators should focus on keeping the store clean of things that > _don’t work_, look out for obvious copies of other people’s code, etc. That is precisely (and once we've got actual, written instructions also explicitly) what the curators are suppose dto be doing. Incidentally, everybody is already able to do the checks for spam and malicious/illegal content, which you only need to be logged in as a user to be able to do. That functionality is in the Details box on the right hand side of any product's page. > If someone puts up something that’s “stupid” or worthless, it’ll get voted > down by other users. My own two Plasmoids are hovering at exactly 2.5 stars > each. Maybe they’re not so useful after all. :D Exactly, the curators are there to help ensure that the stuff that shows up Plasma and other apps' dialogues will, in fact, work. Just because we might possibly think something is dumb doesn't mean there isn't loads of people out there who might very well appreciate a bit of that exact flavour of dumb in their lives, and they should totally be allowed to go for it ;) > -Scott (sharvey) > > On Jul 19, 2018, 1:14 PM -0500, Nicolas Fella , wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to offer my help as well :) > > > > Specifically I'd like to ensure that only content of decent quality and > > of actual worth to the user are available in the store, e.g. by > > suggesting/requesting changes to the author. > > > > Cheers > > > > Nicolas > > > > On 16.07.2018 11:39, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > > Hello chums :) > > > > > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it > > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what > > > we want to have there. > > > > > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > > > have a group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > > > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > > > KDE > > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > > > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or > > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > > > way to proceed. > > > > > > Thank you! :D -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:04:29 BST Paul Brown wrote: > On lunes, 16 de julio de 2018 11:39:25 (CEST) Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > > Hello chums :) > > > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain it > > > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what we > > want to have there. > > > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > > have > > > > a group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > > KDE > > > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, or > > > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > > way > > to proceed. > > > > Thank you! :D > > Hey Dan, Hey Paul :) > We (promo people) were wondering... Would it help if we gave this a push on > social media? I know you probably don't want to manage an army of 100s of > moderators, but if there is a place, a mail address or something, where the > general public can send messages telling you about problematic stuff they > have found within the store, it may be helpful, right? There is, in fact, methods built into the website already where anybody with an opendesktop.org account can report both spam and malicious content. It would be quite useful to have that information spread around a bit, yes :) Specifically, this is done by clicking the report links in the Details panel (see screenshot), and the reports are then handled by the opendesktop.org team. If you mean something which they've found that needs the moderation team to look at it, then no, there isn't anything yet, But we ought to be able to put a way together to just flag items for the moderation team's interest, because yes, that certainly would be handy :) > What do you think? That community involvement is the entire point of opendesktop.org :D > Cheers > > Paul -- ..dan / leinir.. http://leinir.dk/
Re: Help us with curating store.kde.org
On viernes, 20 de julio de 2018 14:04:24 (CEST) Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > On Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:04:29 BST Paul Brown wrote: > > On lunes, 16 de julio de 2018 11:39:25 (CEST) Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen > > wrote: > > > Hello chums :) > > > > > > One of the challenges of having a library of resources is to maintain > > > it > > > > > > clean of spam and in general any content that doesn't comply with what > > > we > > > want to have there. > > > > > > The software running store.kde.org recently gained the possibility to > > > have > > > > > > a group of people who can moderate contents and reviews. > > > > > > This is a call for action for those of you would like to contribute to > > > KDE > > > > > > by helping to make sure our users have the best resources selection > > > available, free of worry to find undesired contents. > > > > > > Please reply if you'd like to help, either with the store as a whole, > > > or > > > > > > even just a specific category, and we will see together what's the best > > > way > > > to proceed. > > > > > > Thank you! :D > > > > Hey Dan, > > Hey Paul :) > > > We (promo people) were wondering... Would it help if we gave this a push > > on > > social media? I know you probably don't want to manage an army of 100s of > > moderators, but if there is a place, a mail address or something, where > > the > > general public can send messages telling you about problematic stuff they > > have found within the store, it may be helpful, right? > > There is, in fact, methods built into the website already where anybody > with an opendesktop.org account can report both spam and malicious content. > It would be quite useful to have that information spread around a bit, yes > :) Specifically, this is done by clicking the report links in the Details > panel (see screenshot), and the reports are then handled by the > opendesktop.org team. > If you mean something which they've found that needs the moderation team > to look at it, then no, there isn't anything yet, But we ought to be able > to put a way together to just flag items for the moderation team's > interest, because yes, that certainly would be handy :) Doesn't the moderation team look at reports for spam that are sent in? > > > What do you think? > > That community involvement is the entire point of opendesktop.org :D Okay, so we'll direct people to opendesktop too, and kill two birds with one stone. Cheers Paul -- Promotion & Communication www: http://kde.org Mastodon: https://mastodon.technology/@kde Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
