C++11 is supported?

[farid abdelnour]

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/632wq6/kdenlive_video_editor_is_doing_a_code_refactoring/

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Not possible to render a ProRes 422 HQ

[farid abdelnour]

Can someone confirm this?

https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-16-12-3-is-out/#comment-611


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Kdenlive part of process of migrating a TV channel to free/open-source software.

[farid abdelnour]

cool:

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=139777&p=374490#p374490

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Re: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature

[farid abdelnour]

Hi Raphaël,

Welcome to the community!

Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you get
here by other means?

Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the refactoring
work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive.

[1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/

Thanks for the contribution :)

Cheers

2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos :

> Hi Raphaël,
>
> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far.
>
> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for the
> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be possible
> for you to submit it there? (How to: https://community.kde.org/
> Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch, link to the phabricator:
> https://phabricator.kde.org/)
> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> alcinos
>
>
>
> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks
>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature.
>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller
>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request
>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6.
>>
>> Please have a look and tell me what you think,
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Raphael M.
>>
>
>


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Re: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature

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Greetings

2017-04-14 17:08 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier :

> Thanks for the warm welcome.
>

Happy to have you here.


> I posted the patches to phabricator as advised.
>

Perfect.


> My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it
> and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed
> and to get an idea where it's heading.
>
> I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing
> bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to
> the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update.
>

We have a list of low hanging bugs [1] if you'd like to cherry pick one.
Avoid timeline related issues since those will go away after the
refactoring. But feel free to also browse through the bug tracker or
phabricator's feature proposals [2][3][4] in case you find something more
interesting to work on.


> Raphael
>

Happy hacking

[1]
https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenlive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1434110
[2] https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020
[3] https://phabricator.kde.org/T2336
[4] https://phabricator.kde.org/T5434


>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour 
> wrote:
> > Hi Raphaël,
> >
> > Welcome to the community!
> >
> > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did you
> get
> > here by other means?
> >
> > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the
> refactoring
> > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive.
> >
> > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/
> >
> > Thanks for the contribution :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos :
> >>
> >> Hi Raphaël,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far.
> >>
> >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for
> the
> >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be
> possible for
> >> you to submit it there? (How to:
> >> https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch,
> link
> >> to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/)
> >> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> alcinos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier  >:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of tracks
> >>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature.
> >>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller
> >>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request
> >>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6.
> >>>
> >>> Please have a look and tell me what you think,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Raphael M.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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@ Lakademy monday

[farid abdelnour]

greetings

will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the whole
day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also
hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in
collaborating. will anyone be on irc?

for more info:
http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/

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Re: @ Lakademy monday

[farid abdelnour]

ciao massimo

2017-04-29 8:56 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Hi, Farid.
> Is there a way I can help you?
>

sure, we can meet at irc and think of something, i was thinking of writing
a toolbox article
about luts. also we can write some guidelines for the roadmap, an article
about what is coming, etc...

see u! :D


>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
> Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04
> A: "kdenlive"
> Ogg: @ Lakademy monday
>
>
> greetings
>
> will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the whole
> day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also
> hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in
> collaborating. will anyone be on irc?
>
> for more info:
> http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/
>
> cheers
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Re: R: Re: @ Lakademy monday

[farid abdelnour]

Will be at it starting around 9am (gmt -3). Ping me or send an email.

Em 30/04/2017 08:16, "Massimo Stella"  escreveu:

> Ok. It sounds good.
> Let me know which time fits better for you so we'll find a way to do it.
>
>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
> Data: 30-apr-2017 2.31
> A: "Massimo Stella"
> Cc: "kdenlive"
> Ogg: Re: @ Lakademy monday
>
> ciao massimo
>
> 2017-04-29 8:56 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :
>
>> Hi, Farid.
>> Is there a way I can help you?
>>
>
> sure, we can meet at irc and think of something, i was thinking of writing
> a toolbox article
> about luts. also we can write some guidelines for the roadmap, an article
> about what is coming, etc...
>
> see u! :D
>
>
>>
>> Messaggio originale
>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>> Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04
>> A: "kdenlive"
>> Ogg: @ Lakademy monday
>>
>>
>> greetings
>>
>> will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the
>> whole day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also
>> hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in
>> collaborating. will anyone be on irc?
>>
>> for more info:
>> http://sandroandrade.org/one-week-to-lakademy-2017/
>>
>> cheers
>>
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Re: Re: R: Re: @ Lakademy monday

[farid abdelnour]

Hi Massimo,

I am not able to connect to irc... trying to solve the issue... Will send
updates whenever possible by email.

JB, will let you know if we can log in beforehand.

Cheers

2017-05-01 10:23 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Hi everybody.
> I was busy this morning. Sorry. I just tried to look for you on IRC but I
> found nobody online.
> Let me know if you'll meet again soon.
>
> Massimo
>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: j...@kdenlive.org
> Data: 1-mag-2017 9.09
> A: 
> Ogg: Re: R: Re: @ Lakademy monday
>
>
> Hello Farid,
>
> Thanks for your reports and it's great to have Kdenlive represented there!
>
> I will try to be on IRC whenever possible, but the hours may not be the
> best for you... I will mail you but I can probably be there between 8am and
> 8.45am and from 2pm to 4pm.
>
> See you!
> Le 01.05.17 à 05:02, farid abdelnour a écrit :
>
> Will be at it starting around 9am (gmt -3). Ping me or send an email.
>
> Em 30/04/2017 08:16, "Massimo Stella"  escreveu:
>
>> Ok. It sounds good.
>> Let me know which time fits better for you so we'll find a way to do it.
>>
>>
>> Messaggio originale
>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>> Data: 30-apr-2017 2.31
>> A: "Massimo Stella"
>> Cc: "kdenlive"
>> Ogg: Re: @ Lakademy monday
>>
>> ciao massimo
>>
>> 2017-04-29 8:56 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :
>>
>>> Hi, Farid.
>>> Is there a way I can help you?
>>>
>>
>> sure, we can meet at irc and think of something, i was thinking of
>> writing a toolbox article
>> about luts. also we can write some guidelines for the roadmap, an article
>> about what is coming, etc...
>>
>> see u! :D
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Messaggio originale
>>> Da: snd.no...@gmail.com
>>> Data: 28-apr-2017 19.04
>>> A: "kdenlive"
>>> Ogg: @ Lakademy monday
>>>
>>>
>>> greetings
>>>
>>> will be at lakademy on monday talking about kdenlive, will spend the
>>> whole day. might write a toolbox article and do some site stuff but also
>>> hopefully i'll find some qml people and get them interested in
>>> collaborating. will anyone be on irc?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>


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Re: Kdenlive café #17 and #18 dates selection

[farid abdelnour]

Hello

Please don't forget to select your preferred dates ;)

See you

2017-04-27 8:27 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Dear friends,
>
> I invite you to fill the dates selection pool for our next
> meetings:
> https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/kedenlivecafe17and18/
>
> I will communicate the selected dates on the 7th of May 2017.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Massimo.
>
>
>
>


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Re: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature

[farid abdelnour]

Salut Raphael

It seems your bug has been committed:

https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/commit/?h=Applications/17.04&id=3404da90de3ce10377cbebaaf5abc9229f1ce43f

Thanks for your contribution and let us know if we can help you somehow for
further involvement in the project.

Cheers!

2017-04-30 15:28 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier :

> Could someone (maybe alcinos?) finish the review of
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D5453, which fixes a race condition in the
> auto-alignment feature?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, farid abdelnour 
> wrote:
> > Greetings
> >
> > 2017-04-14 17:08 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier  >:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the warm welcome.
> >
> >
> > Happy to have you here.
> >
> >>
> >> I posted the patches to phabricator as advised.
> >
> >
> > Perfect.
> >
> >>
> >> My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it
> >> and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed
> >> and to get an idea where it's heading.
> >>
> >> I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing
> >> bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to
> >> the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update.
> >
> >
> > We have a list of low hanging bugs [1] if you'd like to cherry pick one.
> > Avoid timeline related issues since those will go away after the
> > refactoring. But feel free to also browse through the bug tracker or
> > phabricator's feature proposals [2][3][4] in case you find something more
> > interesting to work on.
> >
> >>
> >> Raphael
> >
> >
> > Happy hacking
> >
> > [1]
> > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%
> 3Akdenlive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1434110
> > [2] https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020
> > [3] https://phabricator.kde.org/T2336
> > [4] https://phabricator.kde.org/T5434
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Raphaël,
> >> >
> >> > Welcome to the community!
> >> >
> >> > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did
> you
> >> > get
> >> > here by other means?
> >> >
> >> > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the
> >> > refactoring
> >> > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the contribution :)
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos :
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Raphaël,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator for
> >> >> the
> >> >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be
> >> >> possible for
> >> >> you to submit it there? (How to:
> >> >> https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator#Posting_a_Patch
> ,
> >> >> link
> >> >> to the phabricator: https://phabricator.kde.org/)
> >> >> You can set mardelle and alcinos as reviewers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> alcinos
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2017-04-13 23:23 GMT+02:00 Raphaël Marinier
> >> >> :
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am a new user of kdenlive, and noticed arbitrary alignment of
> tracks
> >> >>> from time to time when using the auto alignment feature.
> >> >>> I investigated and found one race condition (and a couple of smaller
> >> >>> issues). I propose a fix with pull request
> >> >>> https://github.com/KDE/kdenlive/pull/6.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please have a look and tell me what you think,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Raphael M.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: Patches to fix race conditions in auto-alignment feature

[farid abdelnour]

HI

2017-05-05 10:39 GMT-03:00 Nicolas Carion :

> @farid this is a different patch
>

Ooops =)


> @raphael, I'll be taking care of this ASAP, probably in the course of next
> week. I also have to port it to the new branch
>

Thanks

Raphael, we are having our Café soon in case you'd like to participate.

https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/kedenlivecafe17and18/

Cheers :)



>
> Le 5 mai 2017 15:33, "farid abdelnour"  a écrit :
>
>> Salut Raphael
>>
>> It seems your bug has been committed:
>>
>> https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/commit/?h=Applications/17.
>> 04&id=3404da90de3ce10377cbebaaf5abc9229f1ce43f
>>
>> Thanks for your contribution and let us know if we can help you somehow
>> for further involvement in the project.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> 2017-04-30 15:28 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier :
>>
>>> Could someone (maybe alcinos?) finish the review of
>>> https://phabricator.kde.org/D5453, which fixes a race condition in the
>>> auto-alignment feature?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, farid abdelnour 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Greetings
>>> >
>>> > 2017-04-14 17:08 GMT-03:00 Raphaël Marinier <
>>> raphael.marin...@gmail.com>:
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for the warm welcome.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Happy to have you here.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> I posted the patches to phabricator as advised.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Perfect.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> My patch is not a response to the March status update, but I read it
>>> >> and it was good to see that the project was actively being developed
>>> >> and to get an idea where it's heading.
>>> >>
>>> >> I could offer some help to develop Kdenlive, e.g. starting with fixing
>>> >> bugs or adding small features. At this point, I would not commit to
>>> >> the bigger tasks mentioned in the status update.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > We have a list of low hanging bugs [1] if you'd like to cherry pick
>>> one.
>>> > Avoid timeline related issues since those will go away after the
>>> > refactoring. But feel free to also browse through the bug tracker or
>>> > phabricator's feature proposals [2][3][4] in case you find something
>>> more
>>> > interesting to work on.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Raphael
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Happy hacking
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenl
>>> ive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1434110
>>> > [2] https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020
>>> > [3] https://phabricator.kde.org/T2336
>>> > [4] https://phabricator.kde.org/T5434
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:50 PM, farid abdelnour >> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi Raphaël,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Welcome to the community!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Is your patch a response to the recent post we published [1] or did
>>> you
>>> >> > get
>>> >> > here by other means?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Over at phabricator you'll also be able to get a glimpse of the
>>> >> > refactoring
>>> >> > work being made, exiting times coming to Kdenlive.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [1] https://kdenlive.org/2017/03/kdenlive-status-update/
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks for the contribution :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2017-04-14 6:55 GMT-03:00 alcinos :
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi Raphaël,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thank you for your contribution! Your PR looks good to me so far.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Please note however that KDE (and thus Kdenlive) uses Phabricator
>>> for
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> review and merge process (github is only a mirror). Would it be
>>> >> >> possible for
>>> >> >> you to submit it there? (How to:
>>> >> >> https://com

Re: Kdenlidatesve café #17 and #18 selected

[farid abdelnour]

ciao massimo

thanks, dates added to agenda.

would you mind writing a post on the website or would you like me to do it?

ce vediamo

2017-05-08 9:56 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Dear friends,
> by checking the poll at I can say that the best  dates for the next
> meetings will be on May the 31st and on June the 20th.
> I know there will be just 3 weeks between the 2 meetings but no other
> dates available.
> The time for the meetings will be as usual at 9pm CEST (UTC+2)
> See you soon.
> Cheers.
>
> Massimo.
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Re: Kdenlive café tomorrow

[farid abdelnour]

See u soon :)

2017-05-30 8:51 GMT-03:00 jb :

> Hi all,
>
> A quick reminder for those interested, we will hold our monthly Kdenlive
> café tomorrow, 31st of may at 9pm european time (CEST).
>
> See you!
>
> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
>
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Re: Café & fIrst refactoring Appimage

[farid abdelnour]

Hello

Too bad I couldn't make it to the café but just read the log. I think it is
sane to make a great 17.12 than a meh 17.08. Continue the great refactoring
work you brave ones!

Over at the tracker I changed the "Appimage - Snap" to "Appimage -
Refactoring" since we will get more reports, is that fine or should we se a
diffrerent version name?

Cheers :)



2017-06-20 4:09 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> Hi all,
>
>
> Just a reminder that today at 9pm is our 18th Café. I also just announced
> the first Appimage for Kdenlive's refactoring:
>
> https://kdenlive.org/2017/06/kdenlive-refactoring-preview-and-news/
>
> See you all soon,
>
> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
>
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Re: windows builds

[farid abdelnour]

hi vincent,

2017-06-21 21:08 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon :

> Hello,
>
> A short message just to let you know that I still update Windows builds
> from time to time, and today offered the refactoring preview too :
> https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/unstable/kdenlive-
> refactoring-20170621-w64.7z
> I don't have time to test much, write announcements & tutos, and even less
> to fix the reported bugs :(
>

thanks for this, many users were asking for it.  as sson as we have the
appimage nightly builds running i'll write a post about that.


> I just read the last café log, too bad so few of us could attend.
>

i've missed the last two. :(


> I agree with the idea of keeping official releases stable (to avoid
> disappointing users) while offering easy means to test ongoing work.
>
> This message also means that I'm still alive... and interested ;)
>

happy to hear this! :D

>
> Cheers,
>

take care

>
> Vincent
>
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Re: 17.07.70: can't disable clip in timeline

[farid abdelnour]

I can disable it from the timeline but not from the clip menu, it is greyed
out as well. (same version but on archinux.)

2017-06-24 12:57 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :

> Hi,
>
> anybody else seeing this with the recent 17.07.70 installed from the
> development ppa? I cannot disable clips in the timeline: while the menu
> item is available it seems to do nothing. And no warning or error message
> either. When I try to use the "Clip" menu, then all "Audio & Video", "Video
> only", "Audio only" are grayed out, despite having selected a timeline
> clip. Happens with image clips and video clips.
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
>
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Re: Exit full screen

[farid abdelnour]

try ctrl + shift + f

2017-07-10 15:47 GMT-03:00 Douglas Pollard :

> I am using Kdenlive on Mint18.1  Kdenlive is the 17.04  and have clicked
> full screen and cant get of ot that. Exit full screen does not reduce
> window size. I tried f11  and a couple short cut keys. NO luck? Can someone
> help.   Thanks Douglas Pollard
>
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Re: Kdenlive cafè #19 and #20 selected dates

[farid abdelnour]

noted!

ciao :)

2017-07-11 7:12 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Dear friends,
> the selected dates for the next Kdenlive cafés are:
> #19 on Monday July 17
> #20 on Monday August 21
> As usual I remind you that our meeting will be on the freenode IRC
> channell #kdenlive at 9pm UTC+2 (CEST)
> See you soon there.
> Ciao.
>
> Massimo.
>
>
>
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Re: I am sorry I sounded off here

[farid abdelnour]

Some people tried to help but their efforts were in vain... probably
because this isn't related to Kdenlive per se but rather an OS/Desktop
issue? Probably asking at your distros forums might help out...

Good luck.

2017-07-14 12:06 GMT-03:00 Douglas Pollard :

>  I am sorry I sounded off here.  I thought this Kdenlive list would have
> someone more knowledgeable than just us users trying to help each other.
> Had I know this I likely would have used some other video editing program.
> They represent this list as support.  Sorry about the fuss.Doug Pollard
>
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Re: Kdenlive cafè #19 and #20 selected dates

[farid abdelnour]

See you all later at our café! :D



2017-07-14 1:05 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> noted!
>
> ciao :)
>
> 2017-07-11 7:12 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :
>
>> Dear friends,
>> the selected dates for the next Kdenlive cafés are:
>> #19 on Monday July 17
>> #20 on Monday August 21
>> As usual I remind you that our meeting will be on the freenode IRC
>> channell #kdenlive at 9pm UTC+2 (CEST)
>> See you soon there.
>> Ciao.
>>
>> Massimo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Donations issue on website(s)

[farid abdelnour]

hi jesse

i agree that this is an important issue, we should look into it at the next
café.

thanks



2017-07-25 20:17 GMT-03:00 Jesse DuBord :

> So, there've been multiple users across the years who have actually asked
> how to contribute or to donate to Kdenlive. Amazingly on the Kdenlive
> website, neither the menubar nor on any page or footer of the website. A G+
> member was directed to the KDE website (https://www.kde.org/
> applications/multimedia/kdenlive/), but even when you try to put in an
> amount and donate, you can't specify that you want the donation to go to
> the Kdenlive project. Both of these, I believe, are very probably deterring
> a lot of potential donations to the project.
>
> I'd like to propose that:
> (1) IF the link mentioned above is the best place to donate to Kdenlive,
> then a menu link with the title "Donate" or "Give" be placed at the
> kdenlive.org website header, which would point to "https://www.kde.org/
> applications/multimedia/kdenlive/".
> (2) That the KDE admin staff would provide some clear path for users who
> want to contribute financially to to the project, without the ambiguity
> that it's just going to some big KDE funding pool and never reaching devs
> like JBM and the others.
>
> I feel like there's a big missed opportunity to acquire donations, here.
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simple bug for 17.08?

[farid abdelnour]

hi

dont know if it is still possible to include a fix for this bug.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382451

thanks :)

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beyond frei0r

[farid abdelnour]

Way down the road, after the refactoring, we should think of things like
this and plan on how to achieve them since this might/could/should involve
a joint task force between MLT, Kdenlive, Shotcut, Flowblade? Maybe a GSOC,
crowdfunding, patreon?

https://plus.google.com/+TobiasFleischer/posts/hJBJqNBXzBM

A topic for the next café, or too soon?

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timeline corruptions

[farid abdelnour]

hey guys,

some tests we can do to see if the timeline corruptions happen when testing
the refactoring branch are these:

1- speed effect
2- undo/redo various times after moving clips and restart project
3- move many clips at the same time through the timeline

do you know/suspect of any other? write them here so we can thoroughly test
this.

jb and alcinos, is this something helpful to do?

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Re: simple bug for 17.08?

[farid abdelnour]

thanks a lot jb :)

i spotted this one:
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=279&t=139821

i can reproduce it but can't submit it as a bug report.

cheers

2017-07-27 3:56 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> On 27.07.2017 06:53, farid abdelnour wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> Hi Farid,
>
> dont know if it is still possible to include a fix for this bug.
>>
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382451
>>
>> thanks :)
>>
>
> Fixed, thanks for pointing it out.
>
> Regards
> jb
>
>


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Re: timeline corruptions

[farid abdelnour]

hi evert,

2017-08-03 7:16 GMT-03:00 Evert Vorster :

> Hi there, JBM.
> I am in the process of making the kdenlive-testing-git package for Arch
> Linux.
> It will be tracking the refactoring_timeline branch for now, as that seems
> to be the branch with the most action.
>

this is the refactoring branch:
https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/log/?h=refactoring_timeline


> It's a pain to rename/remove packages in Arch Linux, so I do not want to
> make a package for each branch.
>
> Currently I am maintaining:
> kdenlive-git, tracking master
> kdenlive-release-git, tracking the latest release
> and now kdenlive-testing-git, which will track whichever branch you would
> like a wider audience to test.
>

i am a heavy user of kdenlive-git from aur, thanks :D

maybe you could install the refactoring branch in /opt and have the
provides parameter in the pkgbuild use something like kdenlive-refactor,
that way we'll be able to test it without removing the main version.


> Please confirm that refactoring_timeline is the branch that you would like
> to have testing performed on.
>

happy to test your package whenever it is ready.

>
> Kind regards,
> Evert
>

also

On 3 August 2017 at 11:00, Evert Vorster  wrote:
>
>> Hi therem JBM.
>>
>> I can make a Arch Linux package for the refactoring branch, now that it
>> is nearly usable.
>> The only drawback with making these packages is that they replace the
>> system package, so I have to wait until the branch is mostly usable.
>>
>> kdenlive-testing-git would be the name of the package.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Evert Vorster
>>
>> On 3 August 2017 at 07:31, Jean-Baptiste Mardelle 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.08.2017 08:36, Evert Vorster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>> The timeline refactoring was widely touted as a fix for many bugs, and I
>>>> have been waiting patiently for the refactoring to be comleted.
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the patience :) We are also very excited to have a usable
>>> preview release soon. Scarlett is still working on the AppImage CI that
>>> should hopefully be ready by the end of august (maybe for next cafe) -
>>> otherwise we will look for other solutions to provide testing, because
>>> currently there is no other way to try it than compile it manually.
>>>
>>>> It would only make sense to try and recreate the bugs already open
>>>> against
>>>> kdenlive in the timeline-refactored version.
>>>> One immediate benefit would be that the list of open bugs against
>>>> Kdenlive
>>>> shrinks, and we identify where the real problems remain.
>>>>
>>>
that is the idea actually, those 3 i posted are on the tracker, if you know
of other specific corruption issues post them here as well... we should
eventually have a bug squash for this.

cheers :D



>
>>> I will try to update the Phabricator status page regarding our
>>> refactoring progress, but currently the basic timeline operations (move,
>>> delete, group/ungroup) and tools work (razor, spacer), as does undo.
>>> Effects / compositions are almost finished and mostly working (effect
>>> group not yet fully exposed). Clip markers, guides and proxy clips are also
>>> working.
>>>
>>> What remains to be done is:
>>> * effect compare
>>> * timeline preview
>>> * speed effect (this requires some special tricks in timeline)
>>>
>>> Then we can start work on advanced trimming, and other exciting stuff.
>>>
>>> So whenever we can provide a reliable way to test, the first steps would
>>> be as you suggested to test the timeline stability with move/cut/group/undo
>>> operations.
>>>
>>> Best regards and see you soon in next café (21st of august)!
>>>
>>> Jean-Baptiste
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Evert Vorster
>>>>
>>>> On 1 August 2017 at 07:20, Harald Albrecht 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As for #3, my experience with stable/master is that you should click,
>>>>> drag, wait but don't release, then drag further, wait, drag, ...,
>>>>> release.
>>>>> Often, the intermittent stops without releasing the mouse button are
>>>>> where
>>>>> the corruption creeps in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Harald
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: simple bug for 17.08?

[farid abdelnour]

thanks jb,

:D

2017-08-04 2:41 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> On 04.08.2017 03:30, farid abdelnour wrote:
>
>> thanks a lot jb :)
>>
>> i spotted this one:
>> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=279&t=139821
>>
>> i can reproduce it but can't submit it as a bug report.
>>
>>
> Fixed, nice catch.
>
> Regards
> jb
>
>
>
>> 2017-07-27 3:56 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :
>>
>> On 27.07.2017 06:53, farid abdelnour wrote:
>>>
>>> hi
>>>>
>>>> Hi Farid,
>>>>
>>> dont know if it is still possible to include a fix for this bug.
>>>
>>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382451
>>>>
>>>> thanks :)
>>>>
>>>> Fixed, thanks for pointing it out.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> jb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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[showcase] short edited with Kdenlive

[farid abdelnour]

Here is a short edited using Kdenlive by community member Jesse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sSIRGZnFms

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possible regression when moving clips

[farid abdelnour]

hi

i started a project with 17.04.3 then updated to 17.11.70 and noticed a
regression when moving clips in the timeline be it with the box select and
then drag or with the spacer tool.

if i open a new project in 17.11.70 and add twice as many clips to the
timeline, i am able to drag them smoothy without issues.

can anyone help debug/confirm this please?

thanks

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Re: Hardware acceleration / vaapi

[farid abdelnour]

2017-08-08 9:31 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon :

>
> Evert, did you try to share your custom profiles using "HotNewStuff"
> function in Kdenlive? ;)
>

+1


>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Le mardi 8 août 2017, 12:47:31 CEST Evert Vorster a écrit :
>
> Hi there, Bernd.
>
> Kdenlive supports hardware encoding through custom encoding profiles.
>
> This is my profile for hardware hevc encoding with nvidia:
>
> properties=x265-medium f=matroska vcodec=hevc_nvenc acodec=aac
> crf=%quality ab=%audiobitrate+'k'
>
>
> It would have been awesome if mlt and ffmpeg used the same format in
> command lines, but this is not the case. At least they are close.
>
> Unfortunately I only have intel cards, so I cannot test the intel vaapi
> acelleration for you.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> On 8 August 2017 at 10:35, B.M.  wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> After some years without I'm getting back to video editing... I already
> searched quite a lot but it's really hard to find "realiable" information,
> so I decided to ask here:
>
> - It seems that hw accel is not available in kdenlive
>
> - As far as I understand kdenlive uses mlt which uses ffmpeg. ffpmeg can
> use hardware acceleration for de- and encoding. So is mlt to "blame" for
> missing hw accel. in kdenlive?
>
> - There has been a patch (bug 378832) "use of vaapi in transcoding and
> rendering" which seems to tackle my question. But what did it really change
> -
> / what is it for? I didn't find more info on that and it's in kdenlive
> 17.04, while Debian is at 16.12. and before I compile myself I'd like to
> get more info.
>
> - Furthermore I found a thread on this list back in April "kdenlive and
> mlt nvenc enabled" covering the same topic but for nvidia instead of Intel
> graphics; unfortunately nobody reported back if it really works. For me it
> reads like the patch I mentioned above.
>
> So regarding the current state of hw accel in kdenlive I'm still uncertain.
>
> Thank you for your inputs.
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
>
>


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[audio clicks] Please give your feedback - deadline today

[farid abdelnour]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371849

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kdenlive sighting in the wild

[farid abdelnour]

guadec videos edited with kdenlive :)

https://twitter.com/guadec/status/896396734179553280

lets put here all the times we see kdenlive in action.

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Re: Feedback on Kdenlive 17.04.3 after latest video project

[farid abdelnour]

Hi Jesse

Appreciate a lot your feedback and loved the form it was done, short and
objective. More people are invited to share their experience.  :)


2017-08-11 20:25 GMT-03:00 Jesse DuBord :

> Farid had requested that I make this public; hopefully JB, Vincent and the
> team can find this feedback helpful:
> 
> ___
> My experience while editing the comedic short film "50 Shades of Earl
> Grey" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sSIRGZnFms) with Kdenlive 17.04.3
> was actually really good. It only crashed once during the 10-12 hours I was
> editing, which was awesome!
>
> Things I really liked:
> - Preview rendering was always fast.
> - Using the "Dublicate Clip with Speed Change" feature in the Project Bin
> really helped me for this project.
> - Being able to customize the layout is always a plus, helps workflow move
> like I need it to.
> - The "Custom Project Folder" field in the Project Settings proved to be
> SUPER helpful. I started this production on my primary editing desktop, and
> ended with the final render taking place on my laptop in Northern
> California. I actually keep my production projects on the Cloud for this
> very reason, and the transition was literally seamless: I saved on my
> desktop, drove to Northern California, popped open my laptop, opened the
> project, and finished up, without any glitches!
> - It was a generally solid experience. Kdenlive has come so far since the
> 0.8 and 0.9 series!
>

Cool.

>
> Things I didn't like:
> - In the effects, some, like Rotoscoping, have an awesome keyframe layout,
> where others, like the Wave effect, have a very confusing keyframe layout.
> I would prefer all effects were keyframe-able and had a layout similar to
> Rotoscoping's. (see attached screenshots)
>

Good point, I have seen other effects GUI issues which should be addressed
as well. Will start a phabricator thread and maybe in the future we focus a
release cycle or a GOSC/SOK on this.

- Having GPU accelleration is always a want that's been on my list for
> Kdenlive, and it would have helped in this project to smooth playback on
> clips w/ effects and decrease render time.
>

Long story

- I still instinctively hit CTRL+S on my keyboard often during editing to
> save the project in the event of a crash. It would be nice to really nail
> down on the crashing issues, so editors aren't nervous their work is going
> to be lost.
>

So what was the crash you encountered? Did you managed to reproduce it? One
thing I always do is *always* run Kdenlive with GDB, that way I'll manage
to catch those nasty crashes if they appear. For me I can say that it has
been ages that I don't get a crash. But I am also always saving by habit.

- I would have used the master branch for this project, but I noticed the
> packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS were no longer in the master branch -- though
> they used to be. With a HUGE number of users using Ubuntu LTS releases (as
> I recently found out on Google+), it would make sense to have the PPA's
> contain packages for at least the latest LTS release, in my opinion.
>

We could discuss this further in the next café. Try to join us.

>
> EDITED ON:
> Kdenlive 17.04.3 via ppa:kdenlive/stable
> KDE Frameworks: 5.18.0
> Qt: 5.5.1
> Linux Mint 18.2 x64 (Ubuntu base)
> Cinnamon 3.4.6 Desktop Environment
> Linux kernel 4.10.0-30-generic
>


So, whos's next?

Cheers :D

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Kdenlive 17.08 is out

[farid abdelnour]

https://kdenlive.org/2017/08/kdenlive-17-08-released/

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Re: Install Kdenlive on Void Linux?

[farid abdelnour]

Hello

2017-08-20 4:51 GMT-03:00 VTH :

> Hi, i have just installed Void Linux in my pc, but i still could not
> install Kdenlive.
> I tried with the AppImage, but i didnt open even giving all kind of
> permisions.
>

Probably asking at your distro's forums for help on how to fix this issue,
maybe there is something you need to install for AppImage to work...

My other options is install from Source but even if i like that the source
> compilation of Kdenlive has always been a pain in the ass for me and ive
> never could do it.
> Some idea.. help?
>

Have you seen this documentation:

https://community.kde.org/Kdenlive/Development/KF5

It can probably be a bit outdated but might help.

Many someone can chime in with more experience.

Thank.
>

Cheers


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Re: Icons for new trimming operations

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Hi alcinos

So happy to see us getting there! I have asked for some help from the
KDE-VDG people. Will try to spread it on the net as well. Would you like me
to start a phabricator thread for this task?

Cheers

2017-08-25 13:45 GMT-03:00 alcinos :

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably know already, the dev team is currently busy bringing a
> completly new timeline to life.
> This is currently going well, and we look forward to introducing new cool
> features.
>
> But new features mean new icons to refer to them, and new cursors skin.
> We currently have three icons corresponding to editing mode : normal,
> Razor, and Spacer.
>
> Spacer currently uses the same cursor as the one shown when resizing a
> clip (two horizontal arrows facing opposite directions). One possible
> improvement would be to design a new cursor for the spacer tool.
>
> Other than that, we also need icons/cursors for the new up-coming
> features. Here is the toolbox from premiere for inspiration:
> We mainly need Ripple, rolling, slip and slide.
> Of course, we need images that are distributed on permissive licences,
> because this is an opensource project.
>
> Does anyone know where we could find those ? Or alternatively has the
> skills to design them ?
>
> Thanks !
>
> Nicolas
>
>


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Re: Icons for new trimming operations

[farid abdelnour]

Started it here:

https://phabricator.kde.org/T6868

Will complete it asap, also those interested please chip in.

Cheers

2017-08-25 17:40 GMT-03:00 alcinos :

> Hi Farid,
>
> Yes, a phabricator would be good I think. I just wanted to spread the word
> on the ML a bit, in case some readers have some design skills :)
>
> Cheers
>
> 2017-08-25 20:36 GMT+02:00 farid abdelnour :
>
>> Hi alcinos
>>
>> So happy to see us getting there! I have asked for some help from the
>> KDE-VDG people. Will try to spread it on the net as well. Would you like me
>> to start a phabricator thread for this task?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2017-08-25 13:45 GMT-03:00 alcinos :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As you probably know already, the dev team is currently busy bringing a
>>> completly new timeline to life.
>>> This is currently going well, and we look forward to introducing new
>>> cool features.
>>>
>>> But new features mean new icons to refer to them, and new cursors skin.
>>> We currently have three icons corresponding to editing mode : normal,
>>> Razor, and Spacer.
>>>
>>> Spacer currently uses the same cursor as the one shown when resizing a
>>> clip (two horizontal arrows facing opposite directions). One possible
>>> improvement would be to design a new cursor for the spacer tool.
>>>
>>> Other than that, we also need icons/cursors for the new up-coming
>>> features. Here is the toolbox from premiere for inspiration:
>>> We mainly need Ripple, rolling, slip and slide.
>>> Of course, we need images that are distributed on permissive licences,
>>> because this is an opensource project.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where we could find those ? Or alternatively has the
>>> skills to design them ?
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>>
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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question: mixed vc separate clips

[farid abdelnour]

So to move forward with our decision we can ask some editing communities
what they feel about each approach. The text could be something like this:


"Kdenlive  is a Free and Open Source video editor
developed and maintained by a community of hackers and video makers. We are
currently doing a code refactoring which will be taking a step forward in
making our software more suitable for professional use. We'd like to hear
what the editors of this community think about:


Mixed audio/video clips vs Separate audio/video clips


Currently we have it both ways, the editor chooses which paradigm to use
but we are thinking of switching exclusively to the separate clips
approach."


The thing is I don't think it is very clear the explanation of mixed vs
separate tracks. We need to develop the text further. Could anyone help me
doing this?


If we don't get quorum from other editors, another approach could be to
evaluate how other video editing programs work but for that we need people
with access to those tools.


Massimo has a strong opinion which makes a lot of sense specially when you
think about other features like the audio mixer. On the other hand having
this flexibility makes Kdenlive standout. I am still undecided as I see
pluses and cons from both ways. So hearing more people will help us make an
informed decision, right?


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Re: question: mixed vc separate clips

[farid abdelnour]

I will submit this to some reddit communities to test the waters, anyone
has a suggestion on the text before sending it?


2017-08-29 16:06 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> So to move forward with our decision we can ask some editing communities
> what they feel about each approach. The text could be something like this:
>
>
> "Kdenlive <http://kdenlive.org/> is a Free and Open Source video editor
> developed and maintained by a community of hackers and video makers. We are
> currently doing a code refactoring which will be taking a step forward in
> making our software more suitable for professional use. We'd like to hear
> what the editors of this community think about:
>
>
> Mixed audio/video clips vs Separate audio/video clips
>
>
> Currently we have it both ways, the editor chooses which paradigm to use
> but we are thinking of switching exclusively to the separate clips
> approach."
>
>
> The thing is I don't think it is very clear the explanation of mixed vs
> separate tracks. We need to develop the text further. Could anyone help me
> doing this?
>
>
> If we don't get quorum from other editors, another approach could be to
> evaluate how other video editing programs work but for that we need people
> with access to those tools.
>
>
> Massimo has a strong opinion which makes a lot of sense specially when you
> think about other features like the audio mixer. On the other hand having
> this flexibility makes Kdenlive standout. I am still undecided as I see
> pluses and cons from both ways. So hearing more people will help us make an
> informed decision, right?
>
>
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Re: question: mixed vc separate clips

[farid abdelnour]

bullseye alcinos!

thanks :D

ps
i will make a post on the website as well with the same text.

2017-08-29 20:34 GMT-03:00 alcinos :

> Hi Farid,
>
> Here is an developed text:
> "Kdenlive <http://kdenlive.org/> is a Free and Open Source video editor
> developed and maintained by a community of hackers and video makers. We are
> currently doing a code refactoring which will be taking a step forward in
> making our software more suitable for professional use. In the process, we
> are facing some critical design choices, and want to hear the opinion of
> the editors of the community.
>
> Currently, a clip inserted in the timeline in Kdenlive can be one of three
> things: video only, audio only or both audio and video. While this approach
> gives flexibility to the user, it is quite non-standard amongst video
> editing software, and may cause troubles if we try to implement some more
> advanced features like an audio mixer. The alternative, implemented in
> other softwares, is to avoid hybrid clips altogether, and only allow video
> only and audio only clips. Of course, in such a situation, inserting a clip
> from the bin to the timeline would actually create two clips on the
> timeline : one for the audio and one for the video.
>
> If you want to voice an opinion for one of the approaches, or outline
> advantages/drawbacks that we may not have thought of, we are looking
> forward to hearing from you!"
>
> I tried to explain more carefully what are the possibilities.
>
> Cheers
> Nicolas
>
>
> 2017-08-30 1:17 GMT+02:00 farid abdelnour :
>
>> I will submit this to some reddit communities to test the waters, anyone
>> has a suggestion on the text before sending it?
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-29 16:06 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :
>>
>>> So to move forward with our decision we can ask some editing communities
>>> what they feel about each approach. The text could be something like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kdenlive <http://kdenlive.org/> is a Free and Open Source video editor
>>> developed and maintained by a community of hackers and video makers. We are
>>> currently doing a code refactoring which will be taking a step forward in
>>> making our software more suitable for professional use. We'd like to hear
>>> what the editors of this community think about:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mixed audio/video clips vs Separate audio/video clips
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently we have it both ways, the editor chooses which paradigm to use
>>> but we are thinking of switching exclusively to the separate clips
>>> approach."
>>>
>>>
>>> The thing is I don't think it is very clear the explanation of mixed vs
>>> separate tracks. We need to develop the text further. Could anyone help me
>>> doing this?
>>>
>>>
>>> If we don't get quorum from other editors, another approach could be to
>>> evaluate how other video editing programs work but for that we need people
>>> with access to those tools.
>>>
>>>
>>> Massimo has a strong opinion which makes a lot of sense specially when
>>> you think about other features like the audio mixer. On the other hand
>>> having this flexibility makes Kdenlive standout. I am still undecided
>>> as I see pluses and cons from both ways. So hearing more people will help
>>> us make an informed decision, right?
>>>
>>>
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Re: question: mixed vc separate clips

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Hi Evert

2017-08-30 3:26 GMT-03:00 Evert Vorster :

> Hi there, everybody.
>
> As a Kdenlive user, I think the opinions of Kdenlive users matter more
> than the opinion of the developers of other video editing software.
>

I think all constructive opinions matter. We are actually asking editors,
not developers, about the pros and cons of these editing paradigms so we
can make an informed decision on how to proceed.

It's only logical, surely there must be a reason that Kdenlive is the
> preferred editor for the users that are using it?
>
> You might be much better served with a survey to the kdenlive users on
> this mailing list. I, for one, do not want Kdenlive to turn into a clone of
> the other editors.
>

Yes, please share your opinions here on the mailing list, or as others are
doing on the website, in this post:
https://kdenlive.org/2017/08/design-choices-ahead/

Looking forward to hear the input from everyone on this list.


> Kind regards,
> -Evert Vorster-
>

Cheers!


> On 30 August 2017 at 06:43, j...@dodin.org  wrote:
>
>> Le 30/08/2017 à 01:34, alcinos a écrit :
>>
>> If you want to voice an opinion for one of the approaches, or outline
>>> advantages/drawbacks that we may not have thought of, we are looking
>>> forward to hearing from you!"
>>>
>>
>> of course (?) the two clips created from the bin must have some sort of
>> link to keep video and audio in sync.
>>
>> It's already not that easy to keep videos in sync when using the
>> automatic audio sync between several tracks (which is one of the kdenlive
>> strength).
>>
>> thanks
>> jdd
>> --
>> http://dodin.org
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Re: question: mixed vc separate clips

[farid abdelnour]

Ciao Massimo,

2017-08-30 11:02 GMT-03:00 Massimo Stella :

> Hi everybody.
> I don't think we have to be too rigid in any choice we do and it's not the
> matter to be a clone or not of other software.
> Generally, applications are similar only for the facts that they try to
> use the best possible approach to make users happy when they are using the
> specific application.
> So, for me, the question is: which is the best possible approach for
> making Kdenlive the fastest and the easier software around?
> How can Kdenlive do a certain feature solve my problems in arranging
> complicated sequence on the timeline?
> The question for me is not how to make Kdenlive different but how to make
> Kdenlive the best in term of approach to the editing work.
> What I like about the current way to proceed is the fact that you can turn
> any clip in Audio/Video or just video or just audio (and this is very
> useful for recovering sync)
> What I dislike about the mixed approach is that when you have to produce
> the final audio (I'm thinking about a professional project where the
> timeline is always very complex) you have to rearrange all the clips in a
> reasonable way, so you have to check where every single chunk of audio is.
> Then, I want to see the mixer of an animation project with 10 video tracks
> and 5 audio tracks: you'll find a 15 tracks mixer with  10 empty tracks.
>

So if we make it in a way that whenever there is a video track without
audio then it wouldn't appear in the mixer, would that "fix" the issue?


> I guess that instead of being ideologically oriented (be different, be
> unique, etc) we have to find pro and cons of all the approaches and find
> the best possible solution to make Kdenlive not just different but better.
>

+1

Massimo
>
> Messaggio originale
> Da: evors...@gmail.com
> Data: 30-ago-2017 8.26
> A: "j...@dodin.org"
> Cc: "Kdenlive"
> Ogg: Re: question: mixed vc separate clips
>
> Hi there, everybody.
>
> As a Kdenlive user, I think the opinions of Kdenlive users matter more
> than the opinion of the developers of other video editing software.
>
> It's only logical, surely there must be a reason that Kdenlive is the
> preferred editor for the users that are using it?
>
> You might be much better served with a survey to the kdenlive users on
> this mailing list. I, for one, do not want Kdenlive to turn into a clone of
> the other editors.
>
> Kind regards,
> -Evert Vorster-
>
> On 30 August 2017 at 06:43, j...@dodin.org  wrote:
>
>> Le 30/08/2017 à 01:34, alcinos a écrit :
>>
>> If you want to voice an opinion for one of the approaches, or outline
>>> advantages/drawbacks that we may not have thought of, we are looking
>>> forward to hearing from you!"
>>>
>>
>> of course (?) the two clips created from the bin must have some sort of
>> link to keep video and audio in sync.
>>
>> It's already not that easy to keep videos in sync when using the
>> automatic audio sync between several tracks (which is one of the kdenlive
>> strength).
>>
>> thanks
>> jdd
>> --
>> http://dodin.org
>>
>
>
>
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Feedback, so far.

[farid abdelnour]

Hi all,

So we have gotten some feedback both from reddit and at the website. At
r/editors we have gotten the most interesting answer, if you'd like to
comment there to further the discussion...

https://www.reddit.com/r/editors/comments/6ww3n1/looking_for_feedback/

Cheers.

PS
Let us wait a week maybe and then try to compile the answers... what do you
say?



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Proposal for advanced trimming tools icons

[farid abdelnour]

We have an icon proposal for the advanced trimming tools:

https://phabricator.kde.org/T6868

What do you think?

Thanks

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Re: Proposal for advanced trimming tools icons

[farid abdelnour]

Nice progress has been made, still time to give your opinion/suggestion.



2017-08-30 19:27 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> We have an icon proposal for the advanced trimming tools:
>
> https://phabricator.kde.org/T6868
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Feedback, so far.

[farid abdelnour]

Hi JB


I have been sick for most of this week and couldn't follow the discussions,
> will be back next week. If you have time to compile the different
> options/ideas in a page that would be really great.
>

Hope you get better! Later today I'll compile the feedback.


> PS: I also want to prepare a post for the website next week before going
> to Randa to talk about our progress and what is planned for Randa. Maybe we
> can also include some of the feedback from your poll.
>

A post would be fantastic, always.

>
> See you soon.
>

Inté

jb
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: Feedback, so far.

[farid abdelnour]

Here we go,

We used reddit as a testing ground for reaching to editors of other
programs and the website to hear the views of the Kdenlive community..

At the website we had 25 comments (as of the time of writing this email)
and 19 voted to separate audio and video and 6 gave vague answers, like
"make it standard", I couldn't understand for which method they are
referring to or just gave a generic opinion. To my surprise no one voted
for hybrid clips! It is so nice to see people participating the way they
did. I didn't reply to anything in order not to "pollute" the general
opinion. The answers are short and easy to skim through so check them out:
https://kdenlive.org/2017/08/design-choices-ahead/

Over at Reddit I submitted the same post to about 6 subreddits but only got
feedback from r/editors. I feel that we might have failed in passing the
idea of what we wanted since some people thought when we say separate audio
and video it means they are not linked and also add to that a bit of the
usual skepticism from people nevertheless got some interesting comments. We
had 16 comments from 7 people but managed to get detailed info on why to go
either way. The general feeling I got is to go the AVID/Premiere way of
doing separate tracks. Here it is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/editors/comments/6ww3n1/looking_for_feedback/

Do you think we should have a second round of this with a more refined and
better elaborated question and post it in other communities? Or from what
we have do you think it is enough to get a "feeling" on which way to go? I
think the latter is fine for me and my opinion is:

If it makes things easier to the devs and therefore make Kdenlive more
powerful then I'll vote for going the separate audio/video route.

PS
I asked my professional editor friends who work at studios and TV's and
they prefer the separate way as well.

PSS
JB let me know if I can help with the post if needed.

Cheers





2017-09-04 11:20 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> Hi JB
>
>
> I have been sick for most of this week and couldn't follow the
>> discussions, will be back next week. If you have time to compile the
>> different options/ideas in a page that would be really great.
>>
>
> Hope you get better! Later today I'll compile the feedback.
>
>
>> PS: I also want to prepare a post for the website next week before going
>> to Randa to talk about our progress and what is planned for Randa. Maybe we
>> can also include some of the feedback from your poll.
>>
>
> A post would be fantastic, always.
>
>>
>> See you soon.
>>
>
> Inté
>
> jb
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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moderator rights to the mailing list

[farid abdelnour]

would you grant me moderator rights to the mailing list?

thanks :)

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Re: Can I extract frames from bin clips in source frame size instead of project frame size?

[farid abdelnour]

JB is the man! :)

https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/commit/?h=refactoring_timeline&id=01ff6cddb7359b573583bc7b577b8b9069e81998

2017-09-02 12:12 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :

> The title says it all: (how) can I extract frames from bin clips in source
> frame size instead of project frame size?
>
> The background of my question: my projects use the standard FullHD
> 1920x1080 frame size. However, some of my source footage comes from a
> tablet and are shot -- on purpose! -- in portrait mode(*). This footage is
> in 1600x2560 resolution, which is the native screen resolution of the
> tablet the footage comes from.
>
> (*) vertical video syndrome ... nah! :)
>
> As I need to mix this screen footage with screen still extracted from this
> footage, I need to have the extracted frames to be of the same dimensions
> as the screen video footage. Otherwise, ugly blurring kicks in, and while
> the video source footage looks crisp after getting scaled down to FullHD,
> the extracted frames look clearly visibly blurred.
>
> Is there a way within Kdenlive to extract frames from bin footage in
> original resolution instead of project resolution?
>
> At the moment, I need to first extract the frames in "low" project
> resolution. When the timeline edit is fine, I start a dummy project with a
> custom profile 1600x2560 10:19, and then extract the same frames again,
> this time in full resolution. Refreshing the existing project, the quality
> then gets good. But this is a hassle...
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
>
>


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Re: Can I extract frames from bin clips in source frame size instead of project frame size?

[farid abdelnour]

Ooops, that is a brazilian expression, I hope it didn't offend. :P

2017-09-05 18:43 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> JB is the man! :)
>
> https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/commit/?h=refactoring_timeline&id=
> 01ff6cddb7359b573583bc7b577b8b9069e81998
>
> 2017-09-02 12:12 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :
>
>> The title says it all: (how) can I extract frames from bin clips in
>> source frame size instead of project frame size?
>>
>> The background of my question: my projects use the standard FullHD
>> 1920x1080 frame size. However, some of my source footage comes from a
>> tablet and are shot -- on purpose! -- in portrait mode(*). This footage is
>> in 1600x2560 resolution, which is the native screen resolution of the
>> tablet the footage comes from.
>>
>> (*) vertical video syndrome ... nah! :)
>>
>> As I need to mix this screen footage with screen still extracted from
>> this footage, I need to have the extracted frames to be of the same
>> dimensions as the screen video footage. Otherwise, ugly blurring kicks in,
>> and while the video source footage looks crisp after getting scaled down to
>> FullHD, the extracted frames look clearly visibly blurred.
>>
>> Is there a way within Kdenlive to extract frames from bin footage in
>> original resolution instead of project resolution?
>>
>> At the moment, I need to first extract the frames in "low" project
>> resolution. When the timeline edit is fine, I start a dummy project with a
>> custom profile 1600x2560 10:19, and then extract the same frames again,
>> this time in full resolution. Refreshing the existing project, the quality
>> then gets good. But this is a hassle...
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Harald
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Composite vs position and zoom

[farid abdelnour]

hi alberto

2017-09-10 9:05 GMT-03:00 alberto fuentes :

> How are we supposed to move things on the screen? Are there advantages?
>

i can't really technically say which is better but *for me* position and
zoom is what works best.

basically +1 to what harald said.



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Re: Composite vs position and zoom

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Also, hopefully this can get some attention for the next point release. ;)

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383426

2017-09-10 18:30 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> hi alberto
>
> 2017-09-10 9:05 GMT-03:00 alberto fuentes :
>
>> How are we supposed to move things on the screen? Are there advantages?
>>
>
> i can't really technically say which is better but *for me* position and
> zoom is what works best.
>
> basically +1 to what harald said.
>
>
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Re: 17.08.1 for Windows uploaded

[farid abdelnour]

thanks vpinon for the effort, many people are getting to know kdenlive and
we have had a lot of positive feedback!

would you like to do a post about this on the website or should we add it
to a post about randa?

cheers

2017-09-12 17:23 GMT-03:00 Vincent Pinon :

> Hello,
>
> After hours being stupid with debug tools on Windows, I isolated the crash
> that plagued 17.08.0 (in KFileMetadata, which is optional: out!).
>
> So 17.08.1 is available for download, with fresh versions of dependencies,
> but our same porting bugs (issues with icons, dialogs, etc)…
>
> Enjoy anyways!
>
> Vincent
>
>
>



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Re: Some Randa news

[farid abdelnour]

hi jb

2017-09-17 6:37 GMT-03:00 :

> Hi all,
>
> Randa meeting is now over and I made some progress there. I worked on many
> issues affecting the refactoring branch and started work on a builtin
> effect stack as was discussed in a recent café (it basically works but my
> implementation is not very clean -I will need yo exchange with Alcinos
> about improvements). Scarlett has spent quite some time on the AppImage CI
> however it is not ready. Snap package seems to build but we still have a
> minor permission issue to solve.
>

Happy to hear that Randa was so productive, hope you had fun as well. :)

Any news on Flatpaks? Should we maybe ask the Snap community for some help?


> I started work on AppImage scripts so we can at least build them easily. I
> hope to finish that on wednesday, and to post some detailled infos on
> thursday.
>

Cool. Let me know if I can help.


> See you all soon.
> Jean-Baptiste



Cheers


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Last week in Kdenlive

[farid abdelnour]

https://kdenlive.org/2017/09/last-week-in-kdenlive/

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typewriter effect?

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hello,

will the typewriter effect make it to the 17.08 series or will it be ready
only for 17.12?

:)

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multilingual support for the website

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hello,

giving continuity from yesterday's café demand, we have an option to use a
wordpress plugin called polylang. this is the same that krita.org uses and
imho it is the best free alternative out there. would you like to give it a
look and see if it meets your demands?

i can see with the brazilian community to translate the static content and
the toolbox section with time if this goes forward. others can do the same
as well. :)

cheers



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Nasty bug wth 17.08.1 Appimage

[farid abdelnour]

I downloaded the 17.08.1 Appimage and realized that there is no audio
output. Although if I render the video has sound...

Anyone can confirm? If yes, is there a fix?

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Re: Nasty bug wth 17.08.1 Appimage

[farid abdelnour]

thanks :)

2017-10-04 15:13 GMT-03:00 :

> Ohh I can confirm. I think I know the problem , will work on it tomorrow
> and prepare an updated appimage.
>
> Regards
>
> On October 4, 2017 7:27:56 PM GMT+02:00, farid abdelnour <
> snd.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I downloaded the 17.08.1 Appimage and realized that there is no audio
>> output. Although if I render the video has sound...
>>
>> Anyone can confirm? If yes, is there a fix?
>>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>



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Re: multilingual support for the website

[farid abdelnour]

We have the multilang system installed thanks to the KDE sysadmins.

Now we have to decide if we choose Weblate, Pootle or see if KDE provides
easy and acessible tool for the community to help with the translations.

Cheers



2017-10-03 16:29 GMT-03:00 vincent :

> I volunteer for the Dutch part, if nobody took that job yet.
>
> Op 03-10-17 om 20:50 schreef Jean-Baptiste Mardelle:
>
> On 03.10.2017 18:59, farid abdelnour wrote:
>
> Hi Farid,
>
> giving continuity from yesterday's café demand, we have an option to use a
> wordpress plugin called polylang. this is the same that krita.org uses
> and imho it is the best free alternative out there. would you like to give
> it a look and see if it meets your demands?
>
>
> Thanks for these infos. it seems perfect.
>
> i can see with the brazilian community to translate the static content and
> the toolbox section with time if this goes forward. others can do the same
> as well. :)
>
>
> Yes excellent. I will pass the info to interested french people as soon as
> the install is done. We can exchange privately to discuss the install
> procedure.
>
> Regards
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> --
> met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Vincent Groeneveld
> *WWW.HITCOM.NL <http://WWW.HITCOM.NL>*
>



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Re: "Inside Kdenlive"

[farid abdelnour]

Fantastic Harald, your blog is great!

Let me know how I can help.

Cheers

2017-10-21 15:57 GMT-02:00 Harald Albrecht :

> Hi,
>
> I've started migrating some of my personal blog posts about Kdenlive/MLT
> projects to our Kdenlive web site. I've added a "Inside Kdenlive" page (
> https://kdenlive.org/inside-kdenlive/), which isn't wired up yet into the
> page header. I've also added a new products category "Inside Kdenlive", as
> well as a product page about the Kdenlive Project XML Structure.
>
> As time permits, I will slowly migrate more and more stuff from my
> personal blog stuff over to the Kdenlive web site to help attracting devs.
> I hope that's also what the others here would like to see...
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
>
>


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Fwd:

[farid abdelnour]

forwarding this since he didn't reply to all.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Mahesh S 
Date: 2017-10-30 10:41 GMT-02:00
Subject: Re:
To: snd.no...@gmail.com


Thank you for the information!
Iam willing to give everything I got to the community,  if anybody could
guide me.
Iam interested in the current project. I can work with c++ language and
html also. Iam very much interested in Improving windows and mac ports.
Hi Mr. farid abdelnour it would be greatful if we could communicate better.


Mahesh S Nair



On 30-Oct-2017 6:02 PM, "farid abdelnour"  wrote:

Hi Mahesh,

Welcome to the community and thanks for showing interest in improving
Kdenlive. Currently Vincent Pinon (vpinon) has generously offered to mentor
two projects. More information can be found in this link:

https://community.kde.org/SoK/Ideas/2017

So, do the current project proposals fit your interest/capabilities or do
you have something else in mind? What are our skills?

Also, here you can find a list of "easy" bugs in case it helps you
familiarize yourself with the code:

https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3Akdenl
ive%20flag%3Alow_hanging&list_id=1472729

Today we will have our monthly meeting at 9PM UTC+1 (CET) and it is one of
the best moments to interact with the devs and other community members. It
would be great if you could make it.

Happy hacking






2017-10-29 1:20 GMT-02:00 Mahesh S :

> Respected Sir
> Iam Mahesh S Nair.Iam a computer science student from India. I would like
> to contribute to Kdesoc and Iam interested in your Kdenlive project.  It
> would be greatful if you could Mentor me. I am also aspiring for Gsoc. Iam
> new to this environment. So please help me where to start.
>



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Re: Cineform goes open source

[farid abdelnour]

this will get eventually into ffmpeg and then by de facto to mlt/kdenlive,
right?

2017-10-28 17:18 GMT-02:00 Steve Brodie :

> I don't know what bearing this might have on Kdenlive, but interesting for
> anyone into video and open source I thought!
>
> http://cineform.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/cineform-goes-open-source.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>



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kdenlive café

[farid abdelnour]

just a reminder that tonight im about 40min will be our next kdenlive
meeting.

see you all there!

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kdenlive in the wild

[farid abdelnour]

hey people,

just noticed kdenlive mentioned on a big youtube channel:
https://youtu.be/WBoXDJrCuGk?t=4m18s

this is a consequence of all the hard work being done in the last couple of
years specially.

congrats to all the team!

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Re: Kdenlive café #23 and 24 dates selection

[farid abdelnour]

ciao massimo

done!

grazie

2017-11-07 12:16 GMT-02:00 Massimo Stella :

> Dear friends,
> it's time to fill the dates selection pool for our next meetings:
>
> https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/kdenlivecafe23and24/
>
> I will communicate the selected dates on the 13th of November 2017.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Massimo.
>



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bug squashing day before 17.12?

[farid abdelnour]

hi, just a thought, should be have a bug squashing day before 17.12? maybe
try again to get new devs involved. or should we do it some other time?

cheers

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Ubuntu versions

[farid abdelnour]

Hi

Which Kdenlive version is available for 17.10 from the repo? Is it the
latest stable? I noticed the PPA's and very outdated so I am thinking of
recommending the AppImage for Ubuntu users as download on our website, is
that the best approach?

Happy sunday

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Re: Ubuntu versions

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So will switch to AppImage as preferred download for Ubuntu and
derivatives. Or is there another suggestion?

Thanks

2017-11-12 15:25 GMT-02:00 harald.albrecht :

> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive lists the official package
> data:
>
>- artful has 17.08.2
>- zesty has 16.12.3
>
> Kdenlive project:
>
>- stable ppa is 17.04.3 for artful
>- master ppa is 17.11.70 from 2017-10-14
>
>
>
> ---- Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: farid abdelnour 
> Datum: 12.11.17 16:54 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive 
> Betreff: Ubuntu versions
>
> Hi
>
> Which Kdenlive version is available for 17.10 from the repo? Is it the
> latest stable? I noticed the PPA's and very outdated so I am thinking of
> recommending the AppImage for Ubuntu users as download on our website, is
> that the best approach?
>
> Happy sunday
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Re: Where to file bug for 17.08.3 appimage?

[farid abdelnour]

I would say 17.08.3.

2017-11-14 22:50 GMT-02:00 Jesse DuBord :

> In the bugtracker, do I file bugs for the 17.08.3 appimage under "17.08.3"
> or "appimage - refactoring"?
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First community meeting

[farid abdelnour]

Greetings

Should we organize our first community meeting at next years Akademy?

https://dot.kde.org/2017/11/17/akademy-2018-vienna-austria-11-17-august

Another alternative could be at Libre Graphics Meeting.

http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2018/

Or maybe at Randa (if they don't skip next year)?

What say you?

Happy weekend!


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JBM's talk at Akademy 2017

[farid abdelnour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8YDceqE7c

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Yesterday's Café

[farid abdelnour]

Greetings good people

We had a very good Café yesterday! Happy to be part of such a vibrant and
harmonious community.

Here are the logs for those who missed it:
https://notes.kde.org/p/kdenlive-cafe23

Cheers :D

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Re: Yesterday's Café

[farid abdelnour]

hi

2017-11-22 8:16 GMT-02:00 Cyril Duveau :

> Hello,
>
> Le mercredi 22 novembre 2017 à 07:55 -0200, farid abdelnour a écrit :
> > Greetings good people
> >
> > We had a very good Café yesterday! Happy to be part of such a vibrant
> > and harmonious community.
> >
> > Here are the logs for those who missed it:
> > https://notes.kde.org/p/kdenlive-cafe23
> >
> Thanks for the link.
> Which KDE Identity does it require? Where can we create it?
> I tried with bugs.kde and mail.kde, none of them works.
>

salut cyril,

oops, here is the public link:

https://notes.kde.org/public/kdenlive-cafe23
<https://notes.kde.org/p/kdenlive-cafe23>

<https://notes.kde.org/p/kdenlive-cafe23>
cheers

>
> Regards,
> Cyril
>



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Mini bug squashing day

[farid abdelnour]

See you there!

https://kdenlive.org/2017/11/mini-bug-squashing-day/

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mjpeg proxies

[farid abdelnour]

hi

so at the last café we discussed testing new profiles for creating proxies
which are frame accurate for seeking.

i am testing this line which vpinon shared:


-vf scale=1024:-1 -qscale 3 -ab 128k -vcodec mjpeg -acodec pcm_s16le

but i get an error:
==

ffmpeg version 3.3.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers

built with gcc 7.2.0 (GCC)

configuration: --prefix=/usr --disable-debug --disable-static
--disable-stripping --enable-avisynth --enable-avresample
--enable-fontconfig --enable-gmp --enable-gnutls --enable-gpl
--enable-ladspa --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libfreetype
--enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm --enable-libiec61883
--enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore_amrnb
--enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus
--enable-libpulse --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr
--enable-libspeex --enable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libv4l2
--enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp
--enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxcb --enable-libxvid
--enable-shared --enable-version3

libavutil 55. 58.100 / 55. 58.100

libavcodec 57. 89.100 / 57. 89.100

libavformat 57. 71.100 / 57. 71.100

libavdevice 57. 6.100 / 57. 6.100

libavfilter 6. 82.100 / 6. 82.100

libavresample 3. 5. 0 / 3. 5. 0

libswscale 4. 6.100 / 4. 6.100

libswresample 2. 7.100 / 2. 7.100

libpostproc 54. 5.100 / 54. 5.100

Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from
'/home/farid/Gunga/Juvelinas/Render/Alvenaria.mp4':

Metadata:

major_brand : isom

minor_version : 512

compatible_brands: isomiso2avc1mp41

encoder : Lavf57.71.100

Duration: 00:01:23.65, start: 0.00, bitrate: 13459 kb/s

Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv,
bt709/unknown/bt709), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 13266 kb/s, 23.98 fps,
23.98 tbr, 24k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default)

Metadata:

handler_name : VideoHandler

Stream #0:1(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo,
fltp, 191 kb/s (default)

Metadata:

handler_name : SoundHandler

Please use -q:a or -q:v, -qscale is ambiguous

[NULL @ 0x55e271813420] Unable to find a suitable output format for
'/home/farid/.cache/kdenlive/proxy/3c319b73214ec001cef8e184020f0062.mov

'

/home/farid/.cache/kdenlive/proxy/3c319b73214ec001cef8e184020f0062.mov

: Invalid argument

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also, any one interested in helping to test this?




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Re: Preview Render

[farid abdelnour]

hi

2017-11-26 12:27 GMT-02:00 B.M. :

> Dear all,
>
> just a little question: as I see preview rendering uses the project's
> resolution. Can this be changed? I tried but without success, but I'm
> unsure
> if it's because of a config error on my side.
>
> Reason: I'm trying to create a 4K video, but since the project monitor is
> much
> smaller, something like 720p would be sufficient and much faster to render.
>

Why don't you use proxies do edit your fottage and then render it in 4K (I
assume your footage is in 4K).

Thank you.
>
> Best,
> Bernd
>

Hope that helps.



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Re: Season of KDE project mentoring?

[farid abdelnour]

Zeeshan,

There are two mentoring proposals by Vincent here:
https://community.kde.org/SoK/Ideas/2017

Note that the students must be proactive and communicative. We are having a
bug squashing day on December 1st and a Kdenlive café on the 15th. Those
are good moments for them to test the waters.

Cheers

2017-11-20 1:57 GMT-02:00 Zeeshan Hasan :

> Hello everyone,
>
> Would any experienced Kdenlive developers be willing to mentor 2 students
> in Bangladesh in a Kdenlive coding project as part of the season of KDE
> from January to March?
>
> https://dot.kde.org/2017/11/19/announcing-season-kde-2018
>
> Regards
> Zeeshan
>



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Re: Camtasia Editing Method

[farid abdelnour]

2017-11-28 15:02 GMT-02:00 harald.albrecht :

> Hi Andrew,
>
> off my head it should work in Kdenlive as follows, see also
> https://thediveo-e.blogspot.de/2016/05/kdenlive-
> ui-advanced-editing-timeline.html; yeah, I need to migrate such stuff to
> kdenlive.org some day.
>

+1 ;)


1. set in and out points in timeline using the I and O shortcuts; the
> so-called region.
> 2. Ctrl+space plays only the region.
> 3. Shift+X removes the region, moving trailing stuff to fill the gap.
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>

Thanks :D

>
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Andrew Crouthamel 
> Datum: 28.11.17 16:27 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive@kde.org
> Betreff: Camtasia Editing Method
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Is there a way to edit in the way Camtasia works? I find it highly
> efficient.
>
> Basically, the timeline selector has two drag-able handles on either side,
> allowing you to select a piece of track. Hitting the spacebar plays that
> selection to verify you have the correct stuff you want to remove. Then
> CTRL+X to cut it out. The timeline then snaps flush together to make it
> seamless.
>
> It really limits the amount of clicking involved and I find I can edit
> lots of mistakes out of a screencast very quickly.
>
> There is a short video of this under "Cut out Mistakes" here:
> https://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-camtasia-record-edit-share.html
>
> If anyone knows how to do this in kdenlive, I would appreciate it.
>
> ---
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Re: Mini bug squashing day

[farid abdelnour]

A reminder that tomorrow is our mini bug squashing day. Spread the word and
join us!

https://kdenlive.org/2017/11/mini-bug-squashing-day/


2017-11-24 12:36 GMT-02:00 Cyril Duveau :

> Hi,
>
> Le vendredi 24 novembre 2017 à 08:49 -0200, farid abdelnour a écrit :
> > See you there!
> >
> > https://kdenlive.org/2017/11/mini-bug-squashing-day/
> >
> I would like to have this bug corrected:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386651
>
> Thanks,
> Cyril
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Re: mjpeg proxies

[farid abdelnour]

So I found a fix:


Create a profile and name it MJPEG


Add this line:

-vf scale=1024:-1 -q:v 3 -q:a 128k -vcodec mjpeg -acodec pcm_s16le


Maybe a good alternative is to store it in an MKV instead of a MOV. From
the quick test i did it worked really well!




2017-11-25 19:03 GMT-02:00 farid abdelnour :

> hi
>
> so at the last café we discussed testing new profiles for creating proxies
> which are frame accurate for seeking.
>
> i am testing this line which vpinon shared:
>
>
> -vf scale=1024:-1 -qscale 3 -ab 128k -vcodec mjpeg -acodec pcm_s16le
>
> but i get an error:
> ==
>
> ffmpeg version 3.3.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
>
> built with gcc 7.2.0 (GCC)
>
> configuration: --prefix=/usr --disable-debug --disable-static
> --disable-stripping --enable-avisynth --enable-avresample
> --enable-fontconfig --enable-gmp --enable-gnutls --enable-gpl
> --enable-ladspa --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libfreetype
> --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm --enable-libiec61883
> --enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore_amrnb
> --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus
> --enable-libpulse --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libsoxr
> --enable-libspeex --enable-libssh --enable-libtheora --enable-libv4l2
> --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp
> --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxcb --enable-libxvid
> --enable-shared --enable-version3
>
> libavutil 55. 58.100 / 55. 58.100
>
> libavcodec 57. 89.100 / 57. 89.100
>
> libavformat 57. 71.100 / 57. 71.100
>
> libavdevice 57. 6.100 / 57. 6.100
>
> libavfilter 6. 82.100 / 6. 82.100
>
> libavresample 3. 5. 0 / 3. 5. 0
>
> libswscale 4. 6.100 / 4. 6.100
>
> libswresample 2. 7.100 / 2. 7.100
>
> libpostproc 54. 5.100 / 54. 5.100
>
> Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '/home/farid/Gunga/Juvelinas/
> Render/Alvenaria.mp4':
>
> Metadata:
>
> major_brand : isom
>
> minor_version : 512
>
> compatible_brands: isomiso2avc1mp41
>
> encoder : Lavf57.71.100
>
> Duration: 00:01:23.65, start: 0.00, bitrate: 13459 kb/s
>
> Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv,
> bt709/unknown/bt709), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 13266 kb/s, 23.98 fps,
> 23.98 tbr, 24k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default)
>
> Metadata:
>
> handler_name : VideoHandler
>
> Stream #0:1(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, stereo,
> fltp, 191 kb/s (default)
>
> Metadata:
>
> handler_name : SoundHandler
>
> Please use -q:a or -q:v, -qscale is ambiguous
>
> [NULL @ 0x55e271813420] Unable to find a suitable output format for
> '/home/farid/.cache/kdenlive/proxy/3c319b73214ec001cef8e184020f0062.mov
>
> '
>
> /home/farid/.cache/kdenlive/proxy/3c319b73214ec001cef8e184020f0062.mov
>
> : Invalid argument
>
> ===
>
>
> also, any one interested in helping to test this?
>
>
>
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proxy profiles

[farid abdelnour]

hi jb

i saw your commit

https://cgit.kde.org/kdenlive.git/commit/?h=Applications/17.12&id=5b33c563e26c6d4dbd503343822b469d4018609c

if i'm not mistaken vpinon had said that you don't need the '-ab 128k' if
you are using the pcm codec. any input on this vpinon?

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Kdenlive on Matrix

[farid abdelnour]

I have created a Kdenlive room on Matrix which will be bridged* with the
current irc channel.

#kdenlive:matrix.org

I recommend using Riot to access it via your phone (iOS and Android). Join
us from time to time while commuting and chat, share projects or help some
newbies with doubts when possible. Hopefully it will make communication
easier between users.

At the moment we can consider this an unofficial communication channel in
this testing period.
We can eventually setup rules, guidelines, etc... but we can start using
the KDE rules of conduct.

Let's chat!

* I need someone to accept the bot to do the bridging as I have no
priviledges at the irc channel.



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Re: Kdenlive on Matrix

[farid abdelnour]

2017-12-07 12:20 GMT-02:00 Mario Fux :

> Am Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017, 10:56:47 CET schrieb farid abdelnour:
>
> Morning farid
>

Hi Mario :)


> I have created a Kdenlive room on Matrix which will be bridged* with the
> > current irc channel.
> >
> > #kdenlive:matrix.org
> >
> > I recommend using Riot to access it via your phone (iOS and Android).
> Join
> > us from time to time while commuting and chat, share projects or help
> some
> > newbies with doubts when possible. Hopefully it will make communication
> > easier between users.
> >
> > At the moment we can consider this an unofficial communication channel in
> > this testing period.
> > We can eventually setup rules, guidelines, etc... but we can start using
> > the KDE rules of conduct.
> >
> > Let's chat!
> >
> > * I need someone to accept the bot to do the bridging as I have no
> > priviledges at the irc channel.
>
> You might want to get in contact with kde-sysadmin (#kde-sysadmin) as
> there is
> some general talk about alternatives to IRC in KDE. The kde-community
> mailing
> list archive might give some hints there and his blog post: https://
> sessellift.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/results-of-the-
> requirements-survey-for-a-
> kde-wide-chat-solution/
>
>
I am considering this as something unofficial, just testing the waters to
see if there is community interaction. But I have contacted KDE-promo since
your email, and honestly it seems the process of transitioning is kind of
stuck.

Your suggestion to contact the kde-sysadmins is to make it official, just
to inform them or something else?

Cheers



> cu
> Mario
>



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footage with different frame rates, help

[farid abdelnour]

hello

i am editing a project from 3 different cameras at 24fps but sadly one of
our cameramen forgot to adjust the camera and shot at 30fps. how do you
deal with this situation?

happily his task was mostly b-roll so i don't care much about audio sync.
should i be worried if i import his footage to the project? might it cause
a rendering problem or corruptions?

thanks

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Re: footage with different frame rates, help

[farid abdelnour]

danke harald!

deadline in 4 days.

cheers



2017-12-09 16:48 GMT-02:00 harald.albrecht :

> Hi Farid,
>
> should work out of the box (speed/freeze effect notwithstanding) as such.
> I'm regularly mixing 30fps source footage into 25fps projects -- shame on
> me! :)
>
> However, you may notice slight differences due to the different "shutter"
> speed and the image pulldown. In my case, which is handdrawn illustrations,
> this is actually a bonus, but your mileage will vary...
>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
> ---- Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: farid abdelnour 
> Datum: 09.12.17 19:11 (GMT+01:00)
> An: kdenlive 
> Betreff: footage with different frame rates, help
>
> hello
>
> i am editing a project from 3 different cameras at 24fps but sadly one of
> our cameramen forgot to adjust the camera and shot at 30fps. how do you
> deal with this situation?
>
> happily his task was mostly b-roll so i don't care much about audio sync.
> should i be worried if i import his footage to the project? might it cause
> a rendering problem or corruptions?
>
> thanks
>
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Season of KDE announced

[farid abdelnour]

We are looking for proactive, communicative and engaging people to
participate!

Spread the news at your schools/universities that Kdenlive is in.

https://season.kde.org

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laggy timeline in 17.12?

[farid abdelnour]

anyone experiencing anything like this?

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387999

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Re: KDEnlive in flathub

[farid abdelnour]

thanks aleix,

will ask people to test it so we can maybe point to it in the downloads
section:

https://flathub.org/apps.html

cheers

2018-01-03 11:36 GMT-02:00 Aleix Pol :

> Hi,
> I just realised that someone is pushing kdenlive flatpak packaging in
> flathub.
> https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/205
>
> FYI
> Aleix
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Kdenlive at FLOSS events

[farid abdelnour]

Greetings all

Happy 2018 and beyond.

Let us mark our presence this year at our local and internactional FLOSS
events. If make it to this year's Libre Graphics Meeting I'll do a
lightning talk. I will also propose workshops and talks nationally at FLOSS
events in Brazil.

I know SCaLE is looking for graphics/video people so if anyone is in the
States maybe they can drop by and participate.

Also I propose we do a community meeting at Akademy this year and maybe a
sprint at Randa? Or both at the same time somewhere else. What say you? Let
me know so I can produce this meetings.

Cheers to all and I wish us a great year to edit!

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Re: Adding "loop" atom to the video header?

[farid abdelnour]

hi

i saw you posted this at the website as well... maybe you missed Harald's
answer (which is basically the same as Vincent's one) so here it goes:

"Kdenlive leverages ffmpeg for encoding, so if ffmpeg doesn’t support
certain atoms, there’s no way for Kdenlive to get it into the rendered
output file. I checked the most recent moveenc.c from ffmpeg’s source code
repo and it doesn’t include support for the LOOP atom.

I highly recommend consulting the ffmpeg forum for your question; it might
be even better to file a feature request or issue with the ffmpeg project.

Only *after* ffmpegs adds support for the LOOP atom with a corresponding
metadata key(!!) you can start using it in Kdenlive without the need for
any Kdenlive updates, as you could then simply set the key through the
project meta data dialog. But you need ffmpeg supporting this."




2018-01-11 9:49 GMT-02:00 Vikram Parmar :

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to add some custom atom in the header of a video file?
>
> I need to add the term "loop" in the header of MP4 files before the "moov"
> atom.
>
> More information can be found here :
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44893316/whatsapp-video-
> as-gif-sharing-on-android-programatically
>
> Note: Just opening the video file using any text editor shows the file
> header and atoms.
>
> I do not want to edit the headers via too much calculations, as the answer
> suggests. Is there a simple FFMPEG command to add the atom "loop" to any
> MP4 files?
>
> Use Case :-
>
> WhatsApp does a smart thing. Their animated GIFs are actually MP4 files
> (which contain this atom "loop"), and the MP4 files which it wants to treat
> as videos in their UI, they do not add that "loop" atom
>
> I tried loads of -loop and stream loop commands.. Nothing is adding the
> atom "loop" to my mp4 files
>
> My current command for converting a GIF to MP4 is as follows :
>
> ffmpeg -i giphy9.gif -c:v libx264 -c:a aac -pix_fmt yuv420p -movflags
>> +faststart  giphy9_loop.mp4
>>
>
> I wish to add some parameter to the above command (or maybe run a separate
> command) so that the output mp4 file has that "loop" atom in the header.
>
> Please help!
>
>


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Re: Latest development AppImage

[farid abdelnour]

Wonderful JB!

2018-01-12 19:36 GMT-02:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> Hi all,
>

> I just uploaded the latest refactoring AppImage at:
>
> https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/unstable/kdenlive-18.04-
> alpha5.AppImage.mirrorlist
>
>
> Test and feedback welcome.
>

Anything in particular to test?


>
> Regards
> jb
>

Cheers




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Re: Kdenlive café tonight

[farid abdelnour]

I had completely forgotten, thanks for the heads up. Already there...

C ya

2018-01-16 12:19 GMT-02:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> Hi All!
>
>
> Just a reminder that tonight is our 25th Kdenlive café!
>
> Meet us at 9pm CET (UTC + 1) in the #kdenlive channel on freenode to get
> all the latest development news and exchange about your ideas / problems
> with Kdenlive
>
>
> See you there,
>
>
> Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
>
>


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Fwd: [Mlt-devel] MLT 6.6.0 released

[farid abdelnour]

-- Mensagem encaminhada --
De: "Dan Dennedy" 
Data: 23 de jan de 2018 5:12 AM
Assunto: [Mlt-devel] MLT 6.6.0 released
Para: "mlt-devel" 
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Hey all,
I just wanted to let you know I release version 6.6.0 tonight.
https://www.mltframework.org/blog/v6.6.0_released/
https://github.com/mltframework/mlt/releases/tag/v6.6.0

Thank you to everyone who contributed especially Maksym.

Also, I hope all goes OK for a little while following this release as I
will be unavailable for a couple of weeks for a surgery.
+-DRD-+



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Re: Documentation on using the Media Loving Toolkit

[farid abdelnour]

hi

2018-02-08 8:38 GMT-02:00 Nivatius :

> Dear Kdenlive Dvelopers,
>
> I want to make an open and free soundscape mixer that can play multipe
> soundeffects at once, similar to  softrope or syrinscape.
>
> I whould like to do this in python. So I was looking for a media libary
> that I can use with python. I found out about MLT. Your Project seems to
> use MLT, can you point me to any resources on how to use MLT in my project?
>

you can find documentation over at mlt's website. also try to contact[1]
mlt devs for more info.

https://www.mltframework.org/support/

cheers

>
>
> all the best,
>
> Nivatius
>
>


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Re: Kdenlive 18.04 beta1 AppImage

[farid abdelnour]

Hi JB

2018-02-19 16:53 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Mardelle :

> Hi all,
>
> I just uploaded the first beta AppImage for the upcoming 18.04 release.
> It should fix all crashes reported recently by Harald and Farid.
>

Thanks for all the hard work! Please test it people if you can. :D

This is still crashing:
https://phabricator.kde.org/T7082#128653


> Slowmotion is also available as testing in the timeline context menu.
>

Cool. Will test soon.


> https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/unstable/kdenlive-18.04-
> beta1.AppImage.mirrorlist
>
> Feedback welcome and I will announce it tomorrow on the website if all
> goes well with a reminder for tomorrow's café.
>

It is a great idea to write a post about it. Hopefully we can get more
testers. Might be a good a idea to state to report the errors at the
phabricator thread or here. Since the bugtracker isn't receiving
refactoring issues.



> Regards
> Jean-Baptiste
>

cheers

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MLT xml import error?

[farid abdelnour]

Hi

I someone asks on our matrix room about a problem importing .mlt clips.
Here is the command used to generate it:

"
melt mexico_culled/.all.jpg ttl=75 -attach crop center=1 -attach affine
transition.cycle=225
transition.geometry="0=0/0:100%x100%;74=-100/-100:120%x120%;75=-60/-60:110%x110%;149=0/0:110%x110%;150=0/-60:110%x110%;224=-60/0:110%x110%"
-filter luma cycle=75 duration=25 -transition mix -consumer xml:test.mlt $*
"

It seems that in Flowblade it works. Any hints?

Thanks
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Re: MLT xml import error?

[farid abdelnour]

Any ideas as to what might be the problem? Do you guys manage to work with
.mlt files?

2018-03-02 12:37 GMT-03:00 farid abdelnour :

> Hi
>
> I someone asks on our matrix room about a problem importing .mlt clips.
> Here is the command used to generate it:
>
> "
> melt mexico_culled/.all.jpg ttl=75 -attach crop center=1 -attach affine
> transition.cycle=225 transition.geometry="0=0/0:
> 100%x100%;74=-100/-100:120%x120%;75=-60/-60:110%x110%;
> 149=0/0:110%x110%;150=0/-60:110%x110%;224=-60/0:110%x110%" -filter luma
> cycle=75 duration=25 -transition mix -consumer xml:test.mlt $*
> "
>
> It seems that in Flowblade it works. Any hints?
>
> Thanks
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Re: Kdenlive AppImage Memory Problem?

[farid abdelnour]

2018-03-16 13:28 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht :

> Hi,
>
> anybody else seeing an incredibly high memory consumption? Kdenlive
> AppImage 17.12.0d. Empty Kdenlive uses roughly 0.3G RAM, fine.
>
> Loading FullHD 25fps project with three real video mp4 files, recorded at
> 25mbit/s, and two screencast .mp4 recordings: now 10G of RAM allocated to
> Kdenlive! This looks crazy, as in all my Kdenlive projects so far I had
> much more footage, yet never needed 10G, but around 4-6G. When trying to
> edit, my 16G machine starts to swap.
>

I worked on a huge project last year and was very smooth, although I was
using proxies. Have you tried that as a workaround?


> Something seems to be borked here, or is it...?
>
> Looks like I can't use Kdenlive at the moment ... not good with a new
> project pending :(
>

> Best regards,
> Harald
>

Good luck!



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