Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-09-11 Thread Fabrizio Tappero 
Hi Jean-Paul,
nop, in what I designed there is no pen anywere. If you mean the
present desgn, that was not done by me. Totally agree that:
- Pens appear in the different size => bad
- All Pens should go. As suggested already.

Working on it.

Cheers
Fabrizio
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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Jean-Paul Louis  wrote:
> Fabrizio,
>
> The pen in the two icons you redesigned is too big. It should be the same 
> size as the one in the other icons (consistency).
> Otherwise, I’m fine with them.
>
> Just my $0.02,
> Jean-Paul
> AC9GH
>
>
>> On May 4, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Fabrizio Tappero  
>> wrote:
>>
>> footprint
>

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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Nick Østergaard 
I wonder why the fold on the paper is in the opposite direction of the
other ones, that was there previously. I do not imoly weatjer this is good
or bad, I just want to know if there was any thoughts about this.

I dont think the old icon with the book for the lib editor is that bad,
because I am used to the various books for the symbol editor.   But those
are also ised for the fp editor.   On the other hand the new one is alsp
pretty nice.
Den 04/05/2015 20.42 skrev Fabrizio Tappero fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com:

 Hello,
 I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The two
 lib component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I
 think.

 This is some intermediate result:

 [image: Inline image 2]
 Any feedback would be great.

 I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite
 redundant. I attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels
 like contributing.

 Regards
 Fabrizio









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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero 
Hi Mario,
totally agree with you. I will definetly consider your feedback. It is not
easy to find well suited icons for all kicad tools but we are getting
there. I particularly like the idea of a transistor half drawn for the lib
component editor for the cvpcb... well not easy to draw something that
implies a half done layout

thanks
Fabrizio


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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Mário Luzeiro mrluze...@ua.pt wrote:

 Hi Fabrizio,

 Personally I feel confused with the icons on kicad.
 I will try to explain in words what my mind think while looking for the
 icons while is trying to decide the desired functionality and I will some
 ideas and suggestions:
 The pencil makes me confuse, so all first functionalities are for editing.
 Maybe if you could use different tools (tool as a figurative meaning), for
 example in PCB edition (pcbnew) use a cross and hilight the PCB track that
 is being edited. Maybe with some more work, an icon that show more tracks
 and footprints.
 So removing the pencil seems good idea to me.

 But now in the schematic library editor you have also a transistor (as in
 the schematic editor), so in my mind I think yeah, I want to place
 transistors and the two icons show transistors. which one to choose?
 Maybe for the library editor, try represent a transistor being drawn?

 Well.. thats my mind point of view :)
 Regards,
 Mario Luzeiro

 
 From: Kicad-developers [kicad-developers-bounces+mrluzeiro=
 ua...@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Nick Østergaard [oe.n...@gmail.com
 ]
 Sent: 04 May 2015 20:47
 To: Fabrizio Tappero
 Cc: KiCad Developers
 Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

 I wonder why the fold on the paper is in the opposite direction of the
 other ones, that was there previously. I do not imoly weatjer this is good
 or bad, I just want to know if there was any thoughts about this.

 I dont think the old icon with the book for the lib editor is that bad,
 because I am used to the various books for the symbol editor.   But those
 are also ised for the fp editor.   On the other hand the new one is alsp
 pretty nice.

 Den 04/05/2015 20.42 skrev Fabrizio Tappero fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com
 mailto:fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com:
 Hello,
 I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The two
 lib component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I
 think.

 This is some intermediate result:

 [Inline image 2]
 Any feedback would be great.

 I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite
 redundant. I attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels
 like contributing.

 Regards
 Fabrizio









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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero 
understood Chris, they do look all similar

cheers
Fabrizio


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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Chris Pavlina pavlina.ch...@gmail.com
wrote:

 People recognize icons quickly by their silhouettes. This is already
 pretty hard with the existing KiCad icon set, and you're making it harder,
 by making so many icons into a symbol on top of paper. I agree that the
 icons need work, but we've got to keep good UI design practices in mind
 while doing it.

 Can you do them in a way that makes them *more* individually distinctive?

 --
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 On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 08:42:05PM +0200, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:

 Hello,
 I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The two
 lib component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I
 think.

 This is some intermediate result:

 [image: Inline image 2]
 Any feedback would be great.

 I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite
 redundant. I attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels
 like contributing.

 Regards
 Fabrizio





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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero 
Hi Nick,
the paper fold was an unlucky attempt to differentiate between tools. top
right for the lib de and lib footprint editor and bottom right for the
other main kicad programs. All in all is not a really lucky implementation.
I will make the same fold for all.

The book is not bad but a little hard drown for the main large icons set
(48px) but good for the small 26px icons.

thanks for comments

fab.


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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder why the fold on the paper is in the opposite direction of the
 other ones, that was there previously. I do not imoly weatjer this is good
 or bad, I just want to know if there was any thoughts about this.

 I dont think the old icon with the book for the lib editor is that bad,
 because I am used to the various books for the symbol editor.   But those
 are also ised for the fp editor.   On the other hand the new one is alsp
 pretty nice.
 Den 04/05/2015 20.42 skrev Fabrizio Tappero fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com
 :

 Hello,
 I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The
 two lib component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I
 think.

 This is some intermediate result:

 [image: Inline image 2]
 Any feedback would be great.

 I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite
 redundant. I attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels
 like contributing.

 Regards
 Fabrizio









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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero 
agreed, I did not make two of the four icons, that is why there is no
consistency. Once again. having the same pen on all 4 icons is heavily
repetitive.

thanks for your opinion
Fabrizio


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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Jean-Paul Louis lou...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Fabrizio,

 The pen in the two icons you redesigned is too big. It should be the same
 size as the one in the other icons (consistency).
 Otherwise, I'm fine with them.

 Just my $0.02,
 Jean-Paul
 AC9GH


  On May 4, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Fabrizio Tappero fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  footprint


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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Jean-Paul Louis 
Fabrizio,

The pen in the two icons you redesigned is too big. It should be the same size 
as the one in the other icons (consistency).
Otherwise, I’m fine with them.

Just my $0.02,
Jean-Paul
AC9GH


 On May 4, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Fabrizio Tappero fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 footprint


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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Mário Luzeiro 
Hi Fabrizio,

Personally I feel confused with the icons on kicad.
I will try to explain in words what my mind think while looking for the icons 
while is trying to decide the desired functionality and I will some ideas and 
suggestions:
The pencil makes me confuse, so all first functionalities are for editing. 
Maybe if you could use different tools (tool as a figurative meaning), for 
example in PCB edition (pcbnew) use a cross and hilight the PCB track that is 
being edited. Maybe with some more work, an icon that show more tracks and 
footprints. 
So removing the pencil seems good idea to me.

But now in the schematic library editor you have also a transistor (as in the 
schematic editor), so in my mind I think yeah, I want to place transistors and 
the two icons show transistors. which one to choose?
Maybe for the library editor, try represent a transistor being drawn?

Well.. thats my mind point of view :)
Regards,
Mario Luzeiro


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[kicad-developers-bounces+mrluzeiro=ua...@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of 
Nick Østergaard [oe.n...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 May 2015 20:47
To: Fabrizio Tappero
Cc: KiCad Developers
Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

I wonder why the fold on the paper is in the opposite direction of the other 
ones, that was there previously. I do not imoly weatjer this is good or bad, I 
just want to know if there was any thoughts about this.

I dont think the old icon with the book for the lib editor is that bad, because 
I am used to the various books for the symbol editor.   But those are also ised 
for the fp editor.   On the other hand the new one is alsp pretty nice.

Den 04/05/2015 20.42 skrev Fabrizio Tappero 
fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.commailto:fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The two lib 
component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I think.

This is some intermediate result:

[Inline image 2]
Any feedback would be great.

I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite redundant. I 
attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels like contributing.

Regards
Fabrizio









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Re: [Kicad-developers] kicad main icons - minor improvements

2015-05-04 Thread Chris Pavlina 

People recognize icons quickly by their silhouettes. This is already pretty hard with the 
existing KiCad icon set, and you're making it harder, by making so many icons into a 
symbol on top of paper. I agree that the icons need work, but we've got to 
keep good UI design practices in mind while doing it.

Can you do them in a way that makes them *more* individually distinctive?

--
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On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 08:42:05PM +0200, Fabrizio Tappero wrote:

Hello,
I am working on some styling improvements of the main kicad icons. The two
lib component editor and lib footprint editor really need some work, I
think.

This is some intermediate result:

[image: Inline image 2]
Any feedback would be great.

I think that the pen (that suggest the editing) is actually quite
redundant. I attach the svg file just in case somebody (Konstantin?) feels
like contributing.

Regards
Fabrizio






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