[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2024-06-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #10 from sbar...@aacpl.net ---
I was a bit confused after reading this the first time, so I will clarify. 
Yes, check outs should be blocked when they are in Waiting or Transit status.
The issue is that Koha also blocks checkouts for holds/reserves that have not
been found. 
If reserves.found is NULL the checkout should not be blocked.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2024-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #9 from sbar...@aacpl.net ---
If a patron has a hold on an title that is available on the shelf at 10
different branches, we should not block that title from being checked out at
all branches. 
If there is a way around that, let me know. Otherwise I feel that it's
important to have a preference to only block the item once the hold has been
filled.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2024-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2024-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I can understand the argument for items that haven't been set to waiting yet,
but I think once we have sent out the mail to the user, it should not be able
for someone else to check it out on the self check. The circulation desk is a
different case.

If proxy pick-up is allowed and wanted... how do you prevent patrons picking
any item from the pick-up shelf they'd like to jump the queue on?

But if this strictly needs to be configurable, maybe it should be something
like: SCOAllowWaitingPickupByProxy?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2022-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Didier Gautheron  ---
*** Bug 25703 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Nick Clemens  ---
(In reply to Joonas Kylmälä from comment #5)
> 
> Would you be able to check with these libraries if they could just disable
> the holds completely because there doesn't seem to be any use of placing a
> hold in that case?

Often different workflows seem confusing, but I think there can be
justifications here: i.e. a library allows a proxy to pick up holds

I think you would need to send this to the mailing list to get opinions before
making a change.

The prefs seem pretty explicit about overriding 'waiting' so maybe a second
setting in the pref

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Joonas Kylmälä  ---
(In reply to Andrew Fuerste-Henry from comment #4)
> I believe the thinking is that whenever possible the book should go to the
> patron who has it in-hand. I'm sure the patron who previously got a notice
> that their hold is available *is* angry when their item isn't there for
> them, but nonetheless I have known real libraries that do this. I'm not
> arguing that it's a good idea, just that it's something I've known libraries
> to do.

Would you be able to check with these libraries if they could just disable the
holds completely because there doesn't seem to be any use of placing a hold in
that case?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry  ---
I believe the thinking is that whenever possible the book should go to the
patron who has it in-hand. I'm sure the patron who previously got a notice that
their hold is available *is* angry when their item isn't there for them, but
nonetheless I have known real libraries that do this. I'm not arguing that it's
a good idea, just that it's something I've known libraries to do.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Joonas Kylmälä  ---
And to clarify this a bit more: waiting items cannot be checked out currently
with SIP so this would make both of these checkout methods work the same way.
Maybe you are thinking of the Reserved state, i.e. patron has placed a hold but
it has not been confirmed by the library yet to be available for pickup?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Joonas Kylmälä  ---
(In reply to Andrew Fuerste-Henry from comment #1)
> Some libraries would prefer that Koha allow the patron to check out the book
> even though it is meant to be on hold. I think this needs to be an option.

Why? And is there a real library doing this? Are the patrons not angry when
they have come to fetch a book for which they got an email about that it has
arrived?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry  ---
Some libraries would prefer that Koha allow the patron to check out the book
even though it is meant to be on hold. I think this needs to be an option.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 23909] SCO allows to check out items with Waiting state if AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO

2019-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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