KR> Bummer.../ update..
Larry Flesner wrote: >>I just got off the phone with Mark Langford and he has his problem resolved and intends to head to California, making it to the first fuel stop this evening. Good luck Mark.<< Problem solved on N891JF, and everything finally ironed out about an hour before sunset. The "main" side of the DPDT (double pole double throw) switch was apparently in the process of failing first thing this morning, and by lunchtime it was totally dead...infinite resistance on that pole. This also explains a problem I had a few days ago trying to get the thing started. I didn't think I had another switch, but went home and looked long enough to find its twin brother (I often buy two of these kinds of things to have a spare). I had the whole panel pulled out about 6" just so I could get my head behind it to see what was going on. So after swapping out the switch there was a lot of reassembly and experimentation with a way to power the main ignition off the "backup" battery while the starter was running, since the starter pulled the coil voltage down to something like 9 volts. I finally got that straightened out just before sunset, and by then both main and backup batteries were low anyway and it refused to start for that reason! I left it charging tonight. Part of me says "leave at the crack of dawn and try to make it to Chino by dark, but that's a long shot, and a classic example of "gottagetthereitis". Besides, there's the matter of the high winds that make it unlikely I'll make it in a single day (and I have no lights), and the fact that I've just had almost every "flight critical" connection on the plane apart that I'm going to order a 30A DPDT switch to make sure this never happens again, although I'm only pulling 5.4 amps through this 10A switcha switch just like the one in N56ML that ran for 1130 hours without a hiccup. Having said that, the defective switch now rattles, so something failed catastrophically inside, rather than just eroded due to arcing. I was able to cross one more thing off my punch list today though...actually measuring the current consumed by the Compufire ignition while in operation. This was done by running the current through my Fluke 77, so confidence is very high that it's an accurate number. I was a bit amazed that it pulls 4.1A at idle, and by 3200 RPM it has dropped to 3.75A. Go figure on that one, but it agrees with Mike Stirewalt's comments that Steve Bennett had similar results. You can pretty much plan on 4.1A full-time to be conservative. Another comment on 1JF's electrical system is that I'm using an ancient single phase alternator (from a Kohler) with an equally antiquated voltage regulator. I was really concerned about noise and a dirty waveform from this thing, but my radio is completely noise free, and all electronic systems are steady. I'd have never guessed that was going to be the case, and expected to be swapping it out for a newer generator setup. I think the highest consumption I've managed (with everything turned on) is around 7A, and it's an 18 or 20A generator. Many thanks to Joe Horton's efforts to help get me in the air. Last night (before we knew I had an ignition problem) Joe knocked out a couple of items off the Chino punch list, such as making a new shoulder harness cable in a matter of minutes. He doesn't ask where something is...he has radar that seeks it out and puts it in his hand in seconds. This guy shows up, looks around, finds something to do, finds the tools to do it, and before you know it he's looking for something else to do...and whatever it is, he knows how to do it and get it accomplished flawlessly in no time. He's not just a self-starter, but a one-man fabrication facility. I wish I was a tenth the fabricator Joe is. I was looking forward to the flight with him and Larry, but maybe next year... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com
KR> Camping at Chino
I'm concerned about the safety of camping around Chino. The area has long been a hotbed of dairy cow activity and I don't think it's stretching things to suggest over the years some of them have gone rogue. As with feral dogs, it's possible the rogue cows have banded together and roam the countryside in small herds, trampling all that gets in their way. Has any provision been made to protect those who elect to camp at this year's Gathering? A motorhome is one thing, but wild cows would laugh at the typical flimsy camping tent and whoever might be inside innocently sleeping after a hard day of KR activities. Has any thought been given to this possible danger? Hopefully there are sturdy fences surrounding the camping site and "NO COWS" signs have been posted around the perimeter. Am I overly concerned about this possible issue? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rouge-herd-wreaks-havoc-cemetery -article-1.1251237 I'm sure Steve and Marc have taken precautions but I mention it just in case . . . . ** I am hoping to attend the Gathering tomorrow and Saturday, although I plan to fly home Friday night and avoid possible trampling . . . however I discovered I've put my prop on backwards so need to fix that and do a prop re-balance before I can go anywhere. I'll be bringing my prop balancing equipment in case anybody needs a prop balance. Mike KSEE Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/540925f584b4e25f55244st01vuc
KR> Bummer.../ update..
I just got off the phone with Mark Langford and he has his problem resolved and intends to head to California, making it to the first fuel stop this evening. Good luck Mark. Joe made it to the second fuel stop and hopes to be in Los Alamos this evening. Winds were so bad for Joe he had to shut off the engine and hand pull the KR to the fuel pump. I checked the weather history at that stop and winds had continuos steady winds of 25+ /gusts to 38 mph . Glad it worked out. Larry Flesner
KR> Bummer.....
The best laid plans of mice and men!! Mark Langford and Joe Horton were going to meet me in Arkansas early this morning. I was wheels up at 6:05 AM and arrived at our first fuel stop at 8:25 AM. I had a message on my cell phone so I called Mark. Trouble !! His engine wouldn't start, no spark. Joe was running close to 2 hours late. I was checking weather while waiting and found the winds at the next stop were 22/24G29 !!! That's more than I wanted to take on and the weather briefer said there was no going around it , north or south. Joe arrived , topped off, and considering he was already half way to California, (from Pennsylvania) (and apparently bigger kahoones than me), decided to press on. I'm hoping he is somewhere in New Mexico by now as I'm setting home typing this and Mark is at his hangar working on his KR. So Mark and I are out. BUMMER.. Have fun everyone Larry Flesner
KR> Bummer.../ update..
Rob Schmitt, Terry Chizek, and Paul Russell have made it to Jeff's. My Kr is running fine considering the altitude. Rob > On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: > > > > I just got off the phone with Mark Langford and he has his problem resolved > and intends to head to California, making it to the first fuel stop this > evening. Good luck Mark. > > Joe made it to the second fuel stop and hopes to be in Los Alamos this > evening. Winds were so bad for Joe he had to shut off the engine and hand > pull the KR to the fuel pump. I checked the weather history at that stop and > winds had continuos steady winds of 25+ /gusts to 38 mph . Glad it worked > out. > > Larry Flesner > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> ./ Update..
First KR to arrive, Jack Daugherty. ! Steve Glover Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2014, at 14:21, Rob Schmitt via KRnet > wrote: > > Rob Schmitt, Terry Chizek, and Paul Russell have made it to Jeff's. > > My Kr is running fine considering the altitude. > > Rob > > > >> On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Flesner via KRnet >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I just got off the phone with Mark Langford and he has his problem resolved >> and intends to head to California, making it to the first fuel stop this >> evening. Good luck Mark. >> >> Joe made it to the second fuel stop and hopes to be in Los Alamos this >> evening. Winds were so bad for Joe he had to shut off the engine and hand >> pull the KR to the fuel pump. I checked the weather history at that stop >> and winds had continuos steady winds of 25+ /gusts to 38 mph . Glad it >> worked out. >> >> Larry Flesner >> >> >> ___ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options
KR> Nvaero
KUDOS to you Steve.. Tho' I am not building a KR, I enjoy the site and Hats off to you, I like the way you think... jw Joe. E. Wallace jwallacep51 at gmail.com On Sep 2, 2014, at 8:35, Steve G. via KRnet wrote: > > -Original Message- > > "Mark" wrote > >> Let's face it...KR builders are the world's cheapest aircraft builders by > definition. >You don't go into the KR business with any hope of making a > profit...you do it to >support other builders. > > > Yeah, I've just about had enough I don't day much on here because A - I > don't have time for the BS and B - I don't always have nice things to say. > Please do not mistake my "good natured demeanor" as internet courage, I can > assure you it is not. If you meet me I am very congenial and play well with > others until someone decides to change the rules. Then stand by...
KR> Entrance to the 2014 KR Gathering
great on the coffee. ?How about the root beer? Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Marc Baca via KRnet Date:09/04/2014 8:15 AM (GMT-08:00) To: KRnet Subject: KR> Entrance to the 2014 KR Gathering Netters; For those driving to the KR Gathering this year at Chino Airport, there will be an unlocked gate on Cal Aero Way, directly across the street from the Chino Planes of Fame Museum between buildings B120 and B130. A 12' KR Gathering welcome banner will be visible. The airport address is 7000 Merrill Ave, Chino, CA 91710 ... Chino Airport Phone Number is(909) 597-3910 Cal Aero Way intersects Merrill and it serves as the primary entrance to the airport. If you find your way into the airport another way, we will have the KR's parked on the tarmac near Flying Tigers Aviation adjacent the Chino Control Tower. If you need further assistance my cel no. is (323) 426-1462. We'll have the coffee ready. Marc Baca ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Entrance to the 2014 KR Gathering
Netters; For those driving to the KR Gathering this year at Chino Airport, there will be an unlocked gate on Cal Aero Way, directly across the street from the Chino Planes of Fame Museum between buildings B120 and B130. A 12' KR Gathering welcome banner will be visible. The airport address is 7000 Merrill Ave, Chino, CA 91710 ... Chino Airport Phone Number is(909) 597-3910 Cal Aero Way intersects Merrill and it serves as the primary entrance to the airport. If you find your way into the airport another way, we will have the KR's parked on the tarmac near Flying Tigers Aviation adjacent the Chino Control Tower. If you need further assistance my cel no. is (323) 426-1462. We'll have the coffee ready. Marc Baca
KR> Larry's IN, and Joe's enroute!
Envy :-) TK On 4 September 2014 04:41, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: > Although Colin Hales kicked off the journey to the Gathering in Chino, Joe > Horton is now enroute to my place, and the two of us will meet up with > Larry Flesner tomorrow at our first fuel stop, H35. After that, it's on to > Jeff Scott's place in Las Alamos for the night, where we'll join up with > Jeff, Terry Chizek and Rob Schmitt for the flight into Chino on Friday. > > N891JF is running great, and I borrowed a Stratus ADS-B to get weather and > traffic on the iPhone. One half-hour flight with the ADS-B and I'm sold! > Looking forward to the adventure... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
KR> Airfoil difference
Can I assume that the AS5048 has more drag but then more lift? Paul Visk Belleville Il 618 406 4705 Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4. Original message From: Mark Langford via KRnet Date:09/04/2014 4:28 AM (GMT-06:00) To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Airfoil difference Paul Visk wrote: > When would you use the AS5046 airfoil and not the AS5048? I made my rib > templates with the AS5048 and needed some more templates and printed by > mistake the AS5046. I noticed the height of the main spar is thicker. See http://www.krnet.org/as504x/as5046inst.html for the answer to that. If you have no use for the extra volume in the wing, the AS5046 is probably the better choice. N56ML is AS5046 and my next one will likely be the AS5046 also. There's plenty of room for fuel in there. Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
KR> Looking for Texas Builders/Owners
At 04:38 AM 9/4/2014, you wrote: >New to the list. >Alex Pearson >San Antonio, TX >___ Welcome to the club. Exciting time lie ahead Larry Flesner
KR> Looking for Texas Builders/Owners
New to the list. Just purchased a KR2 and a KR2S project as well as a just about ready for Airworthness Certificate KR2. Curious if there are any builders/owners close to the San Antonio, TX area. Hangared at 28TE, Elmendorf, TX. Looking forward to being an active part of the KR2 community. Alex Pearson San Antonio, TX
KR> Airfoil difference
Paul Visk wrote: > When would you use the AS5046 airfoil and not the AS5048? I made my rib > templates with the AS5048 and needed some more templates and printed by > mistake the AS5046. I noticed the height of the main spar is thicker. See http://www.krnet.org/as504x/as5046inst.html for the answer to that. If you have no use for the extra volume in the wing, the AS5046 is probably the better choice. N56ML is AS5046 and my next one will likely be the AS5046 also. There's plenty of room for fuel in there. Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com website at http://www.N56ML.com
