KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-11 Thread Mark Langford
Gary Wold wrote:

After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes 
from Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion 
that Nvaero is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with 
me. I requested they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess 
I'll find something else to build.Please go back to the archive (URL is 
listed at the bottom of every KRnet email) and search for nvAero, and 
you'll find this same thread from about two months ago.  KR plans 
delivery is not something Steve has control over.   I assure you if he 
could get them to you, he would have done it long ago...

-- 

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Nose wheel weight

2014-10-11 Thread Mark Langford
Paul Visk wrote:

>>I just read in issue 15 of the news letter that the ideal static weight for 
>>the tail wheel is 5 lbs.  Does anyone know what the ideal weight for the nose 
>>wheel is? <<

I'm no help with nosewheel weight, but five pounds is probably a pretty 
good number for a KR2 taildragger, and that's exactly what N891JF has.  
The CG on that plane is on the forward side with pilot only, especially 
me.   If I raise the tail past "longeron horizontal" with a full fuel 
tank, it'll end up on it's nose! N56ML (a KR2S) has about 25 pounds on 
the tailwheel, and you couldn't ask for a nicer flying airplane, but 
that plane is longer, fuel is located right on the CG, and it has much 
larger tail feathers.

  If KR2S builders discover you have more than about 40 pounds on an 
empty KR2S taildragger  (or less if you're a heavy guy), read my 
harrowing "aft CG" account at http://www.n56ml.com/wb/index.html, and 
consider redoing your weight and balance...

-- 

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Proseal-fuel tank rivets

2014-10-11 Thread jon kimmel
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1389699291-52-699=misc=proseal

Found this googling vans sealant...if you look at the label you see it is
mil-s-8802...that's the right stuff...note that the b-2 means 2 hour pot
life...medium consistency.

https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale
On Oct 11, 2014 9:13 PM, "Dan Heath via KRnet"  wrote:

> You can get the brand that all the RVs use from Vans Aircraft for less and
> it works well.  I think you should get a quart.  I built wing tanks for my
> KR2 using it and it worked perfectly.  Do not skimp on the application.  Be
> sure you have ample amount on all the seams and rivets.
>
> If you cannot find it, let me know and I will find it for you as I need to
> order some as well.
>
> My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
> -Original Message-
>
> How much proseal do i need for sealing the rivets?
>
>
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KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-11 Thread Gary
Would anyone be willing to send me a scan of the KR2S supplement? ?

After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes from 
Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion that Nvaero 
is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with me. I requested 
they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess I'll find something else 
to build.

I would just like to have a glimpse at what could have been.

Thanks


Gary Wold


KR> Chino trip

2014-10-11 Thread joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com
Hey Guys,
 I had planned to write up a bit of a story and include a few pictures of 
the trip of a life time for me but I had a computer melt down at the very 
moment that I was down loading the picture card and I lost over 300 pictures 
from the time we left LosAlmos until I got home. I'm very unhappy with this to 
say the least.
Joe Horton

2014 Best Skin Tighteners
A Review List of The Top Performing Skin Tighteners In 2014
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543992f12ca1d12f12c50st04duc



KR> Nose wheel weight

2014-10-11 Thread PPaulVsk at aol.com
Thanks, Ernist was answering a question about axle placement back  in 1976. 
I don't think this was brought up with Sid's plane. It was all about  cg. 
Just a thought

Paul  Visk
Belleville Il.
618-406-4705  


In a message dated 10/11/2014 3:47:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
robert7721 at aol.com writes:

Not sure  I've ever heard of an "ideal" weight, but mine worked out to be 
200 lbs on the  nose gear with 200 pounds on each of the main gears.

Rob  Schmitt
N1852Z


Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 11, 2014, at  1:38 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet  
wrote:
>  
>  I just read in issue 15 of the news letter that  the ideal static 
weight for the tail wheel is 5 lbs.  Does anyone know  what the ideal weight 
for the nose wheel is? 
> 
> Paul  Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618 406 4705
> 
> 
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KR> Proseal-fuel tank rivets

2014-10-11 Thread cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
How much proseal do i need for sealing the rivets? My fuel tanks are 10" wide x 
48# long  and tapered
. I see Aircraft spruce sells 6 oz tubes . Maybe two tubes per wing tank?

Joe Cruz
cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
KR1.5 N3151K
KR2S builder


KR> Nose wheel weight

2014-10-11 Thread Robert7721
Not sure I've ever heard of an "ideal" weight, but mine worked out to be 200 
lbs on the nose gear with 200 pounds on each of the main gears.

Rob Schmitt
N1852Z


Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 11, 2014, at 1:38 PM, ppaulvsk via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
>  I just read in issue 15 of the news letter that the ideal static weight 
> for the tail wheel is 5 lbs.  Does anyone know what the ideal weight for the 
> nose wheel is? 
> 
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618 406 4705
> 
> 
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KR> Chino trip

2014-10-11 Thread Rob Schmitt
Ouch! That sucks.



> On Oct 11, 2014, at 3:27 PM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Guys,
> I had planned to write up a bit of a story and include a few pictures of 
> the trip of a life time for me but I had a computer melt down at the very 
> moment that I was down loading the picture card and I lost over 300 pictures 
> from the time we left LosAlmos until I got home. I'm very unhappy with this 
> to say the least.
> Joe Horton
> 
> 2014 Best Skin Tighteners
> A Review List of The Top Performing Skin Tighteners In 2014
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/543992f12ca1d12f12c50st04duc
> 
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KR> Nose wheel weight

2014-10-11 Thread ppaulvsk
? ? ?I just read in issue 15 of the news letter that the ideal static weight 
for the tail wheel is 5 lbs. ?Does anyone know what the ideal weight for the 
nose wheel is??

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618 406 4705


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KR> gear legs

2014-10-11 Thread Flesner


Recent discussion on gear legs using Yankee gear.  I measured my 
Diehl legs (30 inches long) to which I added additional glass and 
they measure 1 inch thick.  I also added 1 inch of foam to the front 
and rear edge to run brake line and to shape to streamline.  My empty 
weight is 765 pounds and have on occasion flown to 1320 pounds.  This 
seems to be the ideal length and thickness.  My KR is a 24 inch 
stretch over the standard KR and this dimension gives a nice 3 point 
attitude on the ground.  My wheels are set for zero toe-in / toe-out 
and the tires show little if any edge wear and ground handling is 
superb.  On a KR2S you may want to go with a 28 inch leg to account 
for the slightly shorter fuselage.  Lower leg fittings are easy to 
make with a 2X6 inch X 1/4 inch piece of 4130.  Make a saw cut at the 
3 inch mark about 3/4 of the way through the metal.  Bend at the cut 
to a 45 degree angle, weld and dress the cut, and weld a gusset on 
the inside.  http://myplace.frontier.com/~flesner/21.jpg   A 
single washer on the top two axle bolts between the axle and fitting 
should give you the correct camber.  Set toe-in / toe-out by drilling 
one hole in the gear leg to attach the bracket, snug it down, set 
toe-in / toe-out, and drill remaining holes.  I think I'd suggest 
using the Diehl profile on cutting the Yankee legs as I believe they 
are made of the same material.  I'm using the Cleveland 500X5 wheels 
and brakes and the RV wheel pants cover the entire assemble and work great.

http://krgathering.com/picture_library/Gathering%202011/N211LF/RRL_2710.jpg

As alwaysYRMV..

Larry Flesner 




KR> Tri-gear main wheel location

2014-10-11 Thread Sid Wood
I made my gear legs 1/4-inch wider than the stock Diehl gear legs and 1-inch
longer than the tail dragger version.  My theory is the extra length is
needed to compensate for the extra angle to get the needed 3-inch set back
and to get a more level stance on the ground.  The 1/4-inch extra width will
add about 8% additional stiffness to compensate for the extra length.  Some
extra twisting comes into play due to the boomerang shape.  That extra
torque would be about 100 pound-feet at max gross.  That seems nominal to
me.  I don't know the math to actually calculate the spring constant and
don't have the lab facilities to empirically measure the various
combinations of gear leg shapes.  My approach is to duplicate the
performance of the stock gear legs and adjust for my particular KR-2
configuration for 800 pound empty weight and 1250 pounds max gross.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

I got the same legs, but thinking of leaving the same thickness but using
the full length of the Grumman blanks for prop clearance on my tail wheel.

Just waiting on some cast brackets from Steve so I can finished them off.

Do think the Grumman leg thickness would be too much?
Mark L commented on  leaving them as is as they are longer, Any finished and
flying these legs care to comment??

Phil Matheson.  Australia
--
Update on moving the main wheels on my KR-2:
Removed the main gear fiberglass struts.  These are supposed to be used for
a tail dragger version.  Obtained Scotch ply Grumman Cougar blanks from
Fletch Air.
___
I've been thinking on this as well.  I suppose one could leave them the
full inch thick but make them narrower (i.e. not as wide) if they were too
stiff.  Leaving them longer (which I also plan to do) will offset some of
the stiffness, and additional stiffness will probably be a good thing given
the higher gross weight KRs seem to be built to these days (mine will be
600kg/1320 lbs).

I don't know enough about the engineering of springs to make an informed
decision here, so the experience of others will be welcome.
Cheers,
Tony
-
I have installed the Grumman legs on my KR2-S. I kept them the original
length and thickness but trimmed them down in width. Minor deflection as the
plane sets now. Fuselage, tail, controls and motor mount (weighs 198 lbs). I
have also used the fiberglass leg for the front gear. With me in the
aircraft (250) gross so far at 448 lbs the gear deflect about 5/8". I expect
a total of 1" deflection as engine, wings, fit out and fuel are added and
dispersed across the 3 legs.
I can send more detail and measurements if your interested.

Dan Prichard

>
>I have installed the Grumman legs on my KR2-S. I kept them the
original length and thickness but trimmed them down in width.

That is exactly how I would do it.  Our planes are heavier these days
anyway, so some extra thickness is not a bad thing.

Mark Langford
  ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

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