KR> fibre frax

[Gary Hinkle]

Try putting a chute on and getting in the plane. You won't have room to fart. 
And if you did gas, you would pass out before you could get out of the plane.


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 Original message 
From: Chris Prata via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 05/09/2016  03:34  (GMT-05:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Chris Prata  
Subject: Re: KR> fibre frax 

I'm sure it will slow things down, but wouldnt an engine fire eventually (and 
quickly) burn around the edges and catch the wood behind the firewall that way?
make fun of me all u want but my KR1 will have a BRS and I wear a personal 
chute that way I can save the plane if possible, myself if necessary




> Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:32:23 -0500
> To: stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> fibre frax
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: Gary19521 at verizon.net
> 
> 
> 
> To me, fire in flight is probably the scariest thing that could happen. Short 
> of loosing tail or wing pieces.For the want of a 1/16th of an inch. Go with 
> 1/8th inch. But then what the hell do I know.
> Gary Hinkle, A, Comm pilot.
> 
> 

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KR> fibre frax

[Phillip Hill]

Dan , do you know what it is called, part num or anything like that?  I'm
looking for something just like that.


Phill Hill
Collinsville, IL

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Dan Heath via KRnet 
wrote:

> I used a "paint on" coating from AS.  It is supposed to actually
> extinguish the fire as it tries to burn the wood.  Don't know how well it
> works and thank God that I never had to find out.  Of course, that is with
> stainless over the wood as well.
>
>
>
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> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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> -Original Message-
>
> I would use the 1/16 that will be plenty. .if you use anything thicker it
> will cause stainless steel firewall metal to distort a lot more.
>
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KR> Landing gear question

[Jeff Scott]

?
?


>I recently bought a couple of gear legs that are fiberglass and for
>a Grumman Should I make them narrower or thinner
>Mark W.
+

Seeing no replies to your question I'll offer my "opinion". If you
are building a tail dragger I'd leave them full length. A nose
dragger may require you to shorten them to match the nose gear. If
you expect your KR to come in around the 700-750 pound range, many do
now days, I'd leave them original thickness and cut them to the
contour of the Diehl legs. I've got 30" Diehl gear legs and I
thickened them a bit. That's my "opinion" based on my
experience. Jeff Scott has the only other set of 30" inch legs and I
don't know if he "thickened" them or not. Mine seemed to be a bit
soft with two people , early in the build process.

Larry Flesner

---

My gear legs have the micro with soda straws formed into the leading and 
trailing edges for brake lines and a wrap of BID glass to finish.  I've been 
pounding this poor plane on the ground relentlessly for over 1100 hours, 
usually at or near 1200#, and have never had any issues related to the landing 
gear.  Mine are a bit softer than many others, but that doesn't seem to affect 
them adversely. Soft gear makes for smooth landings.  :o)

Like Larry, I think I would taper them to match the contour of the Diehl gear, 
give them a wrap with glass to finish and call it close enough.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamso, NM

KR> Landing gear question

[Larry Flesner]

>   Mine are a bit softer than many others, but that doesn't seem to 
> affect them adversely. Soft gear makes for smooth landings.  :o)
>Like Larry, I think I would taper them to match the contour of the 
>Diehl gear, give them a wrap with glass to finish and call it close 
>enough. -Jeff Scott

+++

I finished mine using a piece of foam (approx 1") on lead and trail 
edge.  I hogged out a channel on the lead edge before attaching for 
the brake line.  I rounded the lead edge foam and tapered the trail 
edge and wrapped the entire thing with a layer of glass.  Not a great 
photo but if you zoom in a bit you can see the 
gear.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/100_5553.JPG

This photo shows the brake line running through the landing light 
area and then down the lead edge of the 
leg.  http://myplace.frontier.com/~flesner/02092583.jpg   If I ever 
need to get to the gear leg attach bracket I can cut out the foam on 
the back side of this opening.  I located the light in that area for 
that purpose but a better spot for the light is outside the prop arc 
unless the back side of the prop is painted black.  If it's not black 
you see a giant prop reflection at night and when else do you need 
the light, unless of course you have flashing landing lights for 
daylight recognition.  That's one of those "don't ask me how I know" deals.

Larry Flesner

KR> Landing gear question

[Sid Wood]

Mark,
I used the same Grumman gear leg blanks you describe.  I ran them through my 
wood power planer to 3/4 inch thickness and tapered with a sweep back to get 
20 inches for the wheel axil from the leading edge of the stub wing for the 
stock KR-2.  The amount of sweep will depend on tail dragger or nose dragger 
configuration; they are NOT interchangeable.  I used the full 26 inch 
length.  I used the original Diehl casting to mount to the aft face of the 
main spar.I rounded the leading and trailing edges for stream lining and 
stress riser relief,  I put soda straws in the trailing edges, wrapped with 
fiberglass and foam, for brake line conduits.  Have done lots of taxi 
testing and on a particularly bad speed bump at a taxiway intersection.  The 
gross weight is 1170 pounds.  No problem so far.  No landings yet on these 
gear legs.  Expect to fly soon as the weather cooperates.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

--
I recently bought a couple of gear legs that are fiberglass and for a 
Grumman which have indicated that they will support a 2200 to 2400 pound 
aircraft. Obviously a KR as about 2/3's to 1/2's  that. Should I make them 
narrower or thinner (i.e., split them to reduce the thickness by about 50%) 
or narrower (i.e., make the width about 1/3 less than they are now)? They 
measure 3 3/4" X 1" at the bottom and 7 3/4" X 1" at the top and are 26 1/2" 
long.

I think the length is good, but the other dimensions will be too stiff.

What do you guys think? Thanks.

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

---
I left my legs the same thickness and extrapolated dimensions from some 
pictures and a visit to some airplanes.I'm tapering the front and back edges 
to help forum the round nose and tapered trailing edge.
Paul ViskBelleville IL618,406 4705

+

Seeing no replies to your question I'll offer my "opinion".  If you
are building a tail dragger I'd leave them full length.  A nose
dragger may require you to shorten them to match the nose gear.  If
you expect your KR to come in around the 700-750 pound range, many do
now days, I'd leave them original thickness and cut them to the
contour of the Diehl legs.  I've got 30" Diehl gear legs and I
thickened them a bit.  That's my "opinion" based on my
experience.  Jeff Scott has the only other set of 30" inch legs and I
don't know if he "thickened" them or not.  Mine seemed to be a bit
soft with two people , early in the build process.

Larry Flesner
---

My gear legs have the micro with soda straws formed into the leading and 
trailing edges for brake lines and a wrap of BID glass to finish.  I've been 
pounding this poor plane on the ground relentlessly for over 1100 hours, 
usually at or near 1200#, and have never had any issues related to the 
landing gear.  Mine are a bit softer than many others, but that doesn't seem 
to affect them adversely. Soft gear makes for smooth landings.  :o)

Like Larry, I think I would taper them to match the contour of the Diehl 
gear, give them a wrap with glass to finish and call it close enough.

-Jeff Scott

KR> Landing gear question

[Larry Flesner]

At 06:33 PM 5/8/2016, you wrote:
>I recently bought a couple of gear legs that are fiberglass and for 
>a Grumman  Should I make them narrower or thinner
>Mark W.
+

Seeing no replies to your question I'll offer my "opinion".  If you 
are building a tail dragger I'd leave them full length.  A nose 
dragger may require you to shorten them to match the nose gear.  If 
you expect your KR to come in around the 700-750 pound range, many do 
now days, I'd leave them original thickness and cut them to the 
contour of the Diehl legs.  I've got 30" Diehl gear legs and I 
thickened them a bit.  That's my "opinion" based on my 
experience.  Jeff Scott has the only other set of 30" inch legs and I 
don't know if he "thickened" them or not.  Mine seemed to be a bit 
soft with two people , early in the build process.

Larry Flesner 

KR> fibre frax/ BRS, personal chute

[Paul Visk]

Chris, If this was Facebook. You would have gotten a like from me.
Paul Visk ?Belleville IL ?618 406 4705?



 Original message 
From: Chris Prata via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 05/09/2016  2:34 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Chris Prata  
Subject: Re: KR> fibre frax 

I'm sure it will slow things down, but wouldnt an engine fire eventually (and 
quickly) burn around the edges and catch the wood behind the firewall that way?
make fun of me all u want but my KR1 will have a BRS and I wear a personal 
chute that way I can save the plane if possible, myself if necessary

KR> fibre frax

[Dan Heath]

I used a "paint on" coating from AS.  It is supposed to actually extinguish the 
fire as it tries to burn the wood.  Don't know how well it works and thank God 
that I never had to find out.  Of course, that is with stainless over the wood 
as well.



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the 
pics 



2016 KR Gathering ? Mt. Vernon, Ill.



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 ? KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC





-Original Message-

I would use the 1/16 that will be plenty. .if you use anything thicker it will 
cause stainless steel firewall metal to distort a lot more.

KR> MGL and the new instrument panel

[ml at n56ml.com]

Steve Bedford wrote:

> This is a iefis g3 firmware upgrade from mgl?s website. I believe it was 
> ported to the g2 iefis what is probably what you have.

Thanks Steve, but mine's a G3 and I upgraded it to the new G3 firmware
shortly after it was released in December, with high hopes, and could
tell no discernible difference.  I was amazed that it was recently
discovered that this processor was used in cell phones. 

I believe the phrase "suppressing radio RX noise from EFIS in
compromised installations" is designed to imply "improper installation",
but I've proven, with nothing more than the unit and a battery and an
o-scope, that the only thing compromised about my installation is having
that EFIS in the panel...


Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com

KR> fibre frax

[Chris Prata]

I'm sure it will slow things down, but wouldnt an engine fire eventually (and 
quickly) burn around the edges and catch the wood behind the firewall that way?
make fun of me all u want but my KR1 will have a BRS and I wear a personal 
chute that way I can save the plane if possible, myself if necessary




> Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:32:23 -0500
> To: stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> fibre frax
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: Gary19521 at verizon.net
> 
> 
> 
> To me, fire in flight is probably the scariest thing that could happen. Short 
> of loosing tail or wing pieces.For the want of a 1/16th of an inch. Go with 
> 1/8th inch. But then what the hell do I know.
> Gary Hinkle, A, Comm pilot.
> 
>