KR> My 1984 KR2 for sale

2016-08-19 Thread kr2pilot at gmail.com
Sry all! I forgot to mention price and Location!
Lost Creek WV. (North Central WV)
Looking for 4700.
My other info Is phone:
304-696-9302 txt it call.
Email is kr2pilot at gmail.com



KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 217

2016-08-19 Thread don january
It's not about fuel burn, comes down to prop rpm. and engine longjevity. 

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 ???5. Re:? KR2S gross weight question
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 ? ? 
 Here is Charlie Becker reply.?I misunderstood him.
 ?PaulI am talking about Solidworks but I was thinking we
 could have a workstation set up with it to let someone who
 really knows (I don?t) it show it off.? I was not
  planning to do it during my talk on certification.
 ?
 Thanks,Charlie?

  Original message 
 From: Tony King via KRnet 

 Date: 08/17/2016? 7:34 PM? (GMT-06:00) 
 To: KRnet 

 Cc: Tony King 

 Subject: Re: KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the
 Gathering 

 Are you sure he's talking about Solid Works? That's a 3D CAD
 and modelling tool. I'm trying to imagine how a presentation
 about registering an aircraft might be delivered using that
 tool.

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 > 
 > I'll talked to Charlie Becker from EAA today. He is
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 Sounds like Ill stick with the venerable VW. The 0200 is a
 good engine and
 a good midtime one can be had reasonably.
 On Aug 17, 2016 11:46 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
 wrote:

 > As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal
 preference.? A more
 > realistic view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and
 I flew side by side
 > from Los Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his
 Corvair powered KR and
 > me in my O-200 powered KR.? We flew the whole trip
 within sight of each
 > other.? There are differences between our planes
 to be sure, but we are
 > very closely matched in speed and performance.?
 Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less
 > than I did with my O-200 for the trip.
 >
 > On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen
 from the sky.? Not
 > many Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.? For
 sure, I have abused and
 > broken things in my engine.? But the O-200 is
 stout where it counts.? It
 > has never missed a beat, and things like a broken
 rocker shaft boss were
 > found while performing routine maintenance in the
 hangar.? If you're going
 > to build a Corvair to try to match an O-200 for
 reliability, it's going to
 > cost as much to build as the O-200.
 >
 > -Jeff Scott
 > Los 

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 217

2016-08-19 Thread laser147 at juno.com
"Also, are you flying on top of the weather, too?  That's how Ken Rand
died.
He was flying VFR on top and ran out of gas."

Ha.  That's what he wanted the world to think.  Didn't you find it
strange they never found his body?  

Ken Rand is living happily in Costa Rica with all the other short people.
 He's as brown as the natives and speaks Spanish like he was born there. 
He goes by another name these days so there's no point in Googling to
find him.  

Mike
KSEE


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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 80212

2016-08-19 Thread Scott Bailey
x.  
  zloty cm cm cm x BP x.


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   3.  Facet pumps in series (Craig Williams)
   4. Re:  Facet pumps in series (Mark Langford)
   5. Re:  Facet pumps in series (Daniel Heath)
   6. Re:  Facet pumps in series (Daniel Heath)
   7.  AirVenture 2016 KR Forum (PPaulVsk at aol.com)
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KR> VW 2180

2016-08-19 Thread Doran Jaffas
If you have it in a few days might make an offer. May have my Harley sold.
On Aug 19, 2016 9:46 PM, "Info--- via KRnet"  wrote:

> I have a 2180 VW. Hapi Magnum engine with new GP heads, duel electronic
> ignition all firewall forward for sale.  $3000 or a good offer
>
> Lee Van Dyke
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KR> Gathering attendees

2016-08-19 Thread Larry Flesner


With just weeks till the KR Gathering, I touched base today with 
Chris Collins, the airport manager, to confirm final 
arrangements.  For those that have not attended a Gathering at 
Mt.Vernon I'll lay out some information points to keep in mind:

- Restaurant on the field in the terminal building serving lunch and 
dinner buffet with breakfast items during the Gathering.  Donnie 
Wilkie and staff will treat you like old friends.  Give them your 
business when possible.  They will also cater the Saturday evening 
awards banquet.  The banquet will be held in the terminal commons 
area at 7:00PM Saturday evening.

- KR fliers: We all enjoy fly-bys but limit your pass to no closer to 
the terminal than the taxiways.  Keep in mind the AirEvac facility on 
the airport and respect any emergency operations such as picking up 
KR drivers out of local bean fields.  No low passes over the 
campground or AirEvac facility, main runway only.

- Chris is checking the possibility of us using a computer projector 
owned by a friend of the airport.

- Camping:  Great camp site by the lake within walking distance of 
the terminal and the hangar where bathroom and showers are 
available.  At the last Gathering we actually had people camping in 
the hangar.  The pavilion at the camp ground has been updated by an 
Eagle scout with new roof and other upgrades.  For those camping, 
alcohol is not allowed on the airport but "party beverages" are 
tolerated if done so responsibility.  Enough said?  A few electrical 
hookups were available in the past for motor homes and large campers 
behind the FBO hangar.  I forgot to check but they are probably still 
available, first come , first served.   Wood for fire will be 
available at the pavilion.

- Something to sell?  bring it and we'll set up a table(s) to display 
your ware.  Tables available in terminal commons for photo albums and 
other display items.  Bring anything you'd like to share.

-  It's tough asking someone to set at the registration table all day 
to sell hats/shirts/ banquet tickets so I will be limiting the hours 
to 10:00AM till 3:00PM.  I'll ask John to update the web page with 
that info.  Name tags will be available so please use them so we can 
put names with faces.  Please purchase your banquet tickets by 
Saturday noon so we have an accurate head count for Donnie.

_  The location for the  2017 Gathering will be voted on at the 
Saturday evening banquet.  We presently have one offer but anyone is 
allowed to make a proposal at the banquet.  Want to host a 
Gathering?  Suggestions are welcome but only serious proposals / 
presentations will be considered.

-  Forums will be held in the conference room in the terminal 
(seating for 60+) or in the terminal commons area, location to be 
announced at the Gathering.

- Use caution on the ramp for aircraft movements and give them clear 
space.  Remember, us tail dragger pilots have a hard time seeing 
you,  stand well clear.

-  Very friendly FBO.  Walk down and thank them for their support.

-  A portion of an 11,900 square foot hangar should be available for 
the KR's at no cost to fliers unless something unforeseen comes 
up.  Chris will move heaven and earth to make it available.

I know I'm forgetting something so I'll post it when I think of 
it.  This is my 25th KR Gathering of the last 26.  I missed the one 
in California after turning back in Northwest Arkansas.  Joe Horton 
continued on from there to leave an oil trail all the way to the west 
coast. :-) Mark Langford was unable to even leave his home airport on 
that run.

Questions?  Flesner at frontier.com   cell 618 201 5958

Life is goodSee you at the Gathering.

Larry Flesner




KR> VW 2180

2016-08-19 Thread Info at vandykeaviation.com
I have a 2180 VW. Hapi Magnum engine with new GP heads, duel electronic 
ignition all firewall forward for sale.  $3000 or a good offer

Lee Van Dyke



KR> Gathering attendees

2016-08-19 Thread Doran Jaffas
Just for info. Ionia, Mich. (Y70) has 27/9 paved and 36/18 turf with
excellent parking. School of Mission Aviation Training on the field and
glider flights available.
Doran
On Aug 19, 2016 7:59 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> With just weeks till the KR Gathering, I touched base today with Chris
> Collins, the airport manager, to confirm final arrangements.  For those
> that have not attended a Gathering at Mt.Vernon I'll lay out some
> information points to keep in mind:
>
> - Restaurant on the field in the terminal building serving lunch and
> dinner buffet with breakfast items during the Gathering.  Donnie Wilkie and
> staff will treat you like old friends.  Give them your business when
> possible.  They will also cater the Saturday evening awards banquet.  The
> banquet will be held in the terminal commons area at 7:00PM Saturday
> evening.
>
> - KR fliers: We all enjoy fly-bys but limit your pass to no closer to the
> terminal than the taxiways.  Keep in mind the AirEvac facility on the
> airport and respect any emergency operations such as picking up KR drivers
> out of local bean fields.  No low passes over the campground or AirEvac
> facility, main runway only.
>
> - Chris is checking the possibility of us using a computer projector owned
> by a friend of the airport.
>
> - Camping:  Great camp site by the lake within walking distance of the
> terminal and the hangar where bathroom and showers are available.  At the
> last Gathering we actually had people camping in the hangar.  The pavilion
> at the camp ground has been updated by an Eagle scout with new roof and
> other upgrades.  For those camping, alcohol is not allowed on the airport
> but "party beverages" are tolerated if done so responsibility.  Enough
> said?  A few electrical hookups were available in the past for motor homes
> and large campers behind the FBO hangar.  I forgot to check but they are
> probably still available, first come , first served.   Wood for fire will
> be available at the pavilion.
>
> - Something to sell?  bring it and we'll set up a table(s) to display your
> ware.  Tables available in terminal commons for photo albums and other
> display items.  Bring anything you'd like to share.
>
> -  It's tough asking someone to set at the registration table all day to
> sell hats/shirts/ banquet tickets so I will be limiting the hours to
> 10:00AM till 3:00PM.  I'll ask John to update the web page with that info.
> Name tags will be available so please use them so we can put names with
> faces.  Please purchase your banquet tickets by Saturday noon so we have an
> accurate head count for Donnie.
>
> _  The location for the  2017 Gathering will be voted on at the Saturday
> evening banquet.  We presently have one offer but anyone is allowed to make
> a proposal at the banquet.  Want to host a Gathering?  Suggestions are
> welcome but only serious proposals / presentations will be considered.
>
> -  Forums will be held in the conference room in the terminal (seating for
> 60+) or in the terminal commons area, location to be announced at the
> Gathering.
>
> - Use caution on the ramp for aircraft movements and give them clear
> space.  Remember, us tail dragger pilots have a hard time seeing you,
> stand well clear.
>
> -  Very friendly FBO.  Walk down and thank them for their support.
>
> -  A portion of an 11,900 square foot hangar should be available for the
> KR's at no cost to fliers unless something unforeseen comes up.  Chris will
> move heaven and earth to make it available.
>
> I know I'm forgetting something so I'll post it when I think of it.  This
> is my 25th KR Gathering of the last 26.  I missed the one in California
> after turning back in Northwest Arkansas.  Joe Horton continued on from
> there to leave an oil trail all the way to the west coast. :-) Mark
> Langford was unable to even leave his home airport on that run.
>
> Questions?  Flesner at frontier.com   cell 618 201 5958
>
> Life is goodSee you at the Gathering.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-19 Thread Randall Smith
I have been at 1450 with the one I had but I also had an O200. My wife and I 
would put a weekend bag in the back loaded up with fuel and go.

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> On Aug 18, 2016, at 3:36 PM, mark jones via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Mine is at 1300 and I have flown it at every bit of that weight 
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Dunedin, FL
> 
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KR> Cross country

2016-08-19 Thread Randall Smith
I have had the opportunity to do a lot of cross country lately. In my airplane 
125 hours this year and other folks about 75 hours.  I can't remember the last 
time somebody had actual charts in the airplane. I have a Garman 696 with Music 
and Weather, I go on aopa put in my start and my finish find out where the 
cheapest fuel is within 3 to 4 hours of my start because wind will make that 
kind of difference. By the time I take off my Garman has the winds I look to 
see what they're doing, climb where I want, turn on the auto pilot take a nap. 
My wife doesn't like the nap part. I carry charts on my iPad. With Xm Weather 
and ATC you have all the information you could want. Leaving for Salt Lake 
Thursday will stop at Spanish peaks Fuel up.(cheap fuel) I hold 130 gallons in 
the one I'm taking Thursday as long as I can get there and out of there by 10 
I'm OK. 6500 foot elevation but only 4500 foot runway

Sent from my iPhone



KR> My 1984 KR2 for sale

2016-08-19 Thread kr2pilot at gmail.com
Hi all! My bird is now for sale. Tail drag, 0-200, 435 TTAF and not sure about 
engine. It was pickled before I got it and I went through mags, carb (marvel) , 
flushed engine and oiled it up. Hand fired after about 3 spins. I will get some 
pics. Good bird but hasn't flown in a decade. I never got a hanger where I am 
and I am now trying a live aboard boat. Wings have always been off, beautiful 
landing gear. P51'ish! Non retractable however. Wooden prop. Slick mags, could 
use new plugs, and harnesses.
This is my second KR, this is push pull not cable control. Maul tail wheel. 
Cleveland juice brakes.
304-695-9302 txt or call.
Kr2pilot at gmail.com
Needs gone through obviously, but, shouldn't take long at all. Basic 
instruments, (no Xponder, no radio) but all else pretty much.
Again, I'll get some pics... Not at home now.

Sent from my iPhone


KR> Outer spar airfoil taper

2016-08-19 Thread Virgil N. Salisbury

Try the past news letters, Virg


On 8/19/2016 1:32 PM, Jim Litchfield via KRnet wrote:
> I am ready to cut the airfoil taper on the outer spars.
>
> Recently someone posted a link to a picture showing how they had built a
> jig setup to cut the taper using what appeared to be a wood rasp.
> Can anyone provide the link ?
>
> I have read Mark's site showing how he did it on a table saw and and I am
> inspired by his gutsy approach, however I am not so confident that I can
> duplicate the process without ruining some expensive wood not to mention
> the long hours of construction of the spars themselves.
>
> I have a table saw & a belt sander but would like to evaluate the slower
> hand method. I am sure the hand method is more time consuming but I can go
> slow with confidence. The faster methods are definitely faster but the
> mistakes can happen all too quickly.
>
> If anyone can provide the link or the builders name it would be much
> appreciated.
> I have searched the archives with no luck
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Litchfield
> S.E. Virginia
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KR> Outer spar airfoil taper

2016-08-19 Thread Jim Litchfield
I am ready to cut the airfoil taper on the outer spars.

Recently someone posted a link to a picture showing how they had built a
jig setup to cut the taper using what appeared to be a wood rasp.
Can anyone provide the link ?

I have read Mark's site showing how he did it on a table saw and and I am
inspired by his gutsy approach, however I am not so confident that I can
duplicate the process without ruining some expensive wood not to mention
the long hours of construction of the spars themselves.

I have a table saw & a belt sander but would like to evaluate the slower
hand method. I am sure the hand method is more time consuming but I can go
slow with confidence. The faster methods are definitely faster but the
mistakes can happen all too quickly.

If anyone can provide the link or the builders name it would be much
appreciated.
I have searched the archives with no luck

Thanks,
Jim Litchfield
S.E. Virginia


KR> Outer spar airfoil taper

2016-08-19 Thread Larry Flesner
At 12:32 PM 8/19/2016, you wrote:

>I am ready to cut the airfoil taper on the outer spars.
+

I too cut my tapper on the rear spar with a table saw, but, with the 
small amount of wood needed to be removed, there is no reason you 
can't do it by hand.

Use the rib drawings to determine the spar level you will be working 
to and draw a line on the front and rear of the spar from root to 
tip.  Use whatever tool you want to trim the spar to those lines. 
That process can be used on front and rear spars alike.  Don't make 
the process more complicated that it needs to be.

Builders attending the Gathering, make a note of your questions and 
bring them to the Gathering forums.  Others probably have the same 
questions at some point in the building process.

Larry Flesner 




KR> KR2S gross weight / WAF's

2016-08-19 Thread Larry Flesner
At 07:39 AM 8/19/2016, you wrote:
>Larry Flesner and I have seen wings where the spar broke on impact with
>the ground at the bottom of a spin, and the spar broke a few inches from
>the WAF, not at the WAF or the connections from WAF to spars.
+

Here is a 
photo  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/100_1497.JPG  of 
what remained of a KR after a stall / spin (fatal) accident.  All 
wing attach fittings were intact and none separated from the spar wood.

The plans state that the "designed load factor" is 7 G's at 800 
pounds.  That is 5600 pounds.  At 1200 pounds the "designed load 
factor" would be 4.666 G's ( 5600 / 1200 = 4.666 ) , a healthy number 
for non-aerobatic flying.  As our KR's get heavier and heavier the 
load factor goes down as well as performance.  An 800 pound E.W. KR 
with a VW is certainly not going to perform like a 600 pound E.W. KR 
with a Corvair or 0-200 engine.  Ken's KR weighed 480 pounds empty 
and I doubt there has ever been another KR built to that spec.  Many 
KR's are coming in at 700+ pounds with several going 800+.  You will 
need 30 to 50 more horse power over a VW to make these birds perform 
to moderate standards.  Performance is directly related to weight / 
horsepower.  Just saying

Larry Flesner 




KR> Kr2s Engine?

2016-08-19 Thread Doran Jaffas
Just spoke with Bill Clap owner of Azalea Aviation in Adel Georgia.
He sells kits and Corvair conversions. He has owned several KR's as well.
His engines have been on the market for a while now.
 Just a thought.

Ps. I am purchasing a VW engine mount from him.
On Aug 18, 2016 4:14 PM, "Doran Jaffas" 
wrote:

> Sounds like Ill stick with the venerable VW. The 0200 is a good engine and
> a good midtime one can be had reasonably.
> On Aug 17, 2016 11:46 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>> As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal preference.  A more
>> realistic view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and I flew side by side
>> from Los Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his Corvair powered KR and
>> me in my O-200 powered KR.  We flew the whole trip within sight of each
>> other.  There are differences between our planes to be sure, but we are
>> very closely matched in speed and performance.  Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less
>> than I did with my O-200 for the trip.
>>
>> On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen from the sky.  Not
>> many Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.  For sure, I have abused and
>> broken things in my engine.  But the O-200 is stout where it counts.  It
>> has never missed a beat, and things like a broken rocker shaft boss were
>> found while performing routine maintenance in the hangar.  If you're going
>> to build a Corvair to try to match an O-200 for reliability, it's going to
>> cost as much to build as the O-200.
>>
>> -Jeff Scott
>> Los Alamos, NM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM
>> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
>> To: KRnet 
>> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
>> Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s Engine?
>> "Stan" wrote:
>>
>> > Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better
>> > choice? What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the
>> > Corvair over the o200? What is the time between overhaul on a
>> > Corvair?
>>
>> The difference between the two boils down to the O-200 is a real
>> airplane engine, designed for the job, with compromises to make it last.
>> This includes lower compression for reduced stressed, and a more
>> primitive carb for simplicity. The biggest thing with the O-200 is that
>> it's purpose made for the job, with giant bearing near the prop to
>> handle prop loads.
>>
>> The Corvair was not designed to run wide open all the time, but if you
>> put a $2000 crankshaft in it and add a $1000 front bearing, the crank
>> becomes pretty reliable and there are few weak links left, one of which
>> is the semi-rare cam gear failure (and we know what to watch for on that
>> now). Rebuilds on a Corvair are pretty cheap, compared to the O-200,
>> and heads and cylinders survive rather well. Corvair parts are rather
>> plentiful, and simple stuff like gears are still made and cheap, rather
>> than rare and expensive.
>>
>> Having said that, if reliability is your number one goal, the O-200 is
>> the way to go. If efficiency and performance is your goal, the Corvair
>> may be the way to go. Cost is probably about the same either way, as
>> far as initial installation, depending on luck and scrounging ability.
>>
>> It's too early to tell what the TBO is on the Corvair...there just
>> aren't enough hours on them yet. I'd bet serious money that it's longer
>> on the Continental than the Corvair though! I don't think anybody would
>> disagree with that.
>>
>> I have a lot invested in Corvairs, and will stick with them. They are
>> far better than VWs, both in reliability and safety. And I have two of
>> them ready to run already. No, I'm not trying to sell either of them.
>> If I were starting over and an O-200 presented itself for a reasonable
>> price, I'd seriously considering buying it. With a new 4340 crank in my
>> Corvair though, I'm good with that option too, especially since they are
>> both paid for.
>>
>>
>> Mark Langford
>> ML at N56ML.com
>> http://www.n56ml.com
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KR> Kr2 worldtour

2016-08-19 Thread colin hales




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
At 1.pm Alaskan time, 10.pm tonight in the UK, Colin Hales, a 46 year old 
aircraft mechanic from Staffordshire, took off from Nome Airport, Western 
Alaska and head further west. His intention was to cross the Bering Straights 
and fly into Russian Federation Airspace, on Route to China. ?So what?? you may 
ask? Well he set of in a tiny 22 foot wingspan aircraft that he built himself 
and has been flying around the world and attending airshows with, since June 
2014. No one has been permitted to fly through East Russian Airspace in a 
private aircraft for about 8 years and no one has ever flown through Russian 
Federation Airspace in such a small aircraft.



How Colin has managed to complete the complicated negotiations to obtain 
transit permission from the Russian Federal Air Transport Authority and be 
granted permission to land in the Chukotka Autonomous Region of Eastern Russia, 
to continue on through to China, again nobody really knows. He wrote on his 
facebook page that he intends to land at Anadyr, Magadan and Blagoveshchensk 
Ignatyevo airport, on the Chinese border before continuing on into The Peoples 
Republic of China to attend the 2016 Shenyang International Aviation Expo at 
Faku Caihu Airport, 300 miles north east of Beijing. But apart from that there 
is no more information. His chances of success must be minimal, as it probably 
requires him to fly his tiny 15 foot long aircraft for over ten hours at a time 
between those airports. He is completely unsupported by any outside means and 
looks only to be supported in the cockpit by a team of soft toys...? With so 
little known about the guy, the only way to follow his progress is to track him 
on his website. If he arrives in China, it will surely be one of the major 
flying achievements by a UK pilot for many years and he will probably have 
quite a story to tell? Colin wrote an article for Pilot Magazine in June and 
apparently they know all the details. Try contacting them for further 
information.



His website is



www.kr2worldtour.com






KR> Experienced with Solid Works at the Gathering

2016-08-19 Thread Wunder
Paul,
EAA announced at Oshkosh this year that a member benefit for EAA members is 
free use of Solid Works.  It is a $4-$6000  3D AutoCAD Program (student 
version) that I just downloaded (with some twists and turns) and as one 
person at Oshkosh told me...it ain't that easy to use.  I know AutoCAD so 
Solid Works is pretty easy to pick up, but without that background there 
might be a pretty steep learning curve.  The demos they put on at Oshkosh 
were done by Solid Works geeks and they were truly 'shock and awe' to watch 
and the program does everything from quickly sketching out a 2D drawing 
to 3D drawings that you can hook up a 3D printer and make your parts to 
creating assemblies that will go into motion to conducting a stress 
analysis on a part. to outputting a drawing package with a bill of 
materials (BOM)...but a friend of mine told me he has hired someone to do a 
project for him and he has studied Solid Works for 3 years at college and 
can run it like a you see computer geeks do on programs.it is a 
tremendous benefit for EAA members if you need a drawing program but be 
prepared to do some homework or be frustrated.
my 2 cents worth.
Bernie
Lusby MD
KR2S builder in hibernation

--


I'll talked to Charlie Becker from EAA today. He is doing a forum  Saturday
afternoon at the gathering on how to register you home  built.  He asked me
if I could check if anyone knows how to use Solid  Works. His presentation
that he's going to do at the Gathering is on that  program. That software
program is relatively new to him and he's  not comfortable with using it 
yet.
He was hoping someone would be  there to rescue him if it crashed.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
618 406 4705





KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-19 Thread Doran Jaffas
Very good INFORMATION . Thanks from a new KR fan.
On Aug 19, 2016 8:40 AM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Folks who witnessed the attempted destruction of a stub spar at a past
> Gathering will probably agree that the spars have a significant margin
> of safety on the KRs. The spars were jacked up to the point of being
> bent probably 14" upward from the fuselage, and neither fuselage nor
> spars gave.  Finally, the shear web started to split, but the spars were
> still fine and ready to accept more load.  Anybody who witnesses that
> test had to walk away impressed with the spar strength, especially
> considering that in anything like normal (but bumpy) flight, the wings
> never even flex.
>
> And despite all the concern about the WAFs and their connection, neither
> wing component  is likely to fail, and in fact, never have in any kind
> of normal (not crash) flight.
>
> Larry Flesner and I have seen wings where the spar broke on impact with
> the ground at the bottom of a spin, and the spar broke a few inches from
> the WAF, not at the WAF or the connections from WAF to spars.
>
> Marty Roberts used to fly big guys at the Gathering hard and fast, with
> a gross weight of probably 1200+ pounds, and his g-meter would usually
> come back with 6g's or so stuck on it.  He reset it for every flight.
>
> Just a data point, but I personally will lose no sleep over my spars
> breaking...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com
>
>
>
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KR> Gathering hats, shirts, registration

2016-08-19 Thread Flesner


Gathering attendees,

Tomorrow ( 8/20/2016) is the cutoff date to order hats and 
shirts.  Place your order by going to www.krnet.org and click on the 
Gathering link at the very top of the page.  Go to "pre-register" and 
fill in the blanks. I will be placing my final order tomorrow.  The 
list is manually updated so give John a chance to update before 
posting that you registered and it didn't show up on the list.

Thanks.

Larry Flesner
flesner at frontier.com




KR> Oilite bushing insertion

2016-08-19 Thread Dean Meloni
*Stefan Balatchev wrote:> I am considering using Oilite bushings for my
tail movable surfaces. Press fit seems out of the reach for me, so I would
try the following method, please let me know if somebody else tried that
and if yes, what was the *outcome

Having spent a number of years in a landing gear overhaul shop, I have
learned a thing or two about bushing replacement-

No need to heat the part prior to any drilling operation. Heating is used
to open up the bore to ease installation of the bushing. Additionally,
bushings are usually cooled (submersed in liquid nitrogen) to "shrink" the
OD. The combination of heating the receiving bore and cooling the bushing
opens up dimensions which allows for ease of installation. When the temps
normalize, the interference fit will have been achieved. I have seen
bushings simply "drop" into place and then become very secure
when normalized.
As far as boring, the best method to hold .001" tolerances would be to
drill undersize and finish with an appropriately sized reamer.



On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Stefan Balatchev wrote:
>
> > I am considering using Oilite bushings for my tail movable surfaces.
> Press fit seems out of the reach for me, so I would try the following
> method, please let me know if somebody else tried that and if yes, what was
> the outcome...<
>
> I just drilled a hole, maybe reamed it to size (I forget) and used
> Loctite 620 between bushing and aluminum. If it was a press fit, I
> probably just tapped it in place.  With 1130 hours on the plane, there
> is no noticeable play in the rudder hinges.  If you want to do as you
> plan, you can drill the hole in advance.  The hole will grow with the
> rest of the part.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com
>
>
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KR> Oilite bushing insertion

2016-08-19 Thread ml at n56ml.com
Stefan Balatchev wrote:

> I am considering using Oilite bushings for my tail movable surfaces. Press 
> fit seems out of the reach for me, so I would try the following method, 
> please let me know if somebody else tried that and if yes, what was the 
> outcome...<

I just drilled a hole, maybe reamed it to size (I forget) and used
Loctite 620 between bushing and aluminum. If it was a press fit, I
probably just tapped it in place.  With 1130 hours on the plane, there
is no noticeable play in the rudder hinges.  If you want to do as you
plan, you can drill the hole in advance.  The hole will grow with the
rest of the part.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com




KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-19 Thread n357cj
Gary,
I have N357Cj placarded at 1250# but I also lowered the G rating to +4 g and I 
don't remember the negative number right now. but in any case I don't feel it 
is simply a gross weight decision.
Joe Horton


Subject: KR> KR2S gross weight question

I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking at
tri-gear and Corvair engine.






KR> Cross country planning and a KR

2016-08-19 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
I learned to fly long before GPS was invented and I still know how to
plan a flight on paper with a sectional and I would still be comfortable
doing it without GPS, but it has been a few years since I have done it. 
Currently I have Ifly GPS on my tablet so I have legal sectionals and
approach plates if needed and I have it on my phone as a backup.  My
primary GPS I use in the plane is a 496 with XM weather, but I also have
a GPS moving map on my GRT EFIS (that I don't always use because it is
cumbersome to put flight plans orher than a direct to in it, but it is
also my autopilot so doing that more often now) and I have a Garmin
GPS155 that is there as a legal approach certified GPS so I can file IFR
flight plans without having to go VOR to VOR when I finally finish my
IFR rating.  I also have an SL30 with the VOR and ILS input to the EFIS.
 So I have two belts and four pairs of suspenders.

I used to plot plans with paper and sectional when I first started using
GPS.  The reason I stopped doing it is because these days when I fly I
almost never know what altitude and winds aloft I will be flying until I
am in the air.  Sure I could call for weather, and still do, but the
altitude and winds aloft I would plan on the ground are almost never
what I actually use in the air.  Living in Florida there are always lots
of clouds and storms around.  My plane climbs like a bat out of hell and
is efficient up high so I am usually 7-12 thousand feet on top of the
clouds.  Weather reports you get on the ground normally have base height
of layers, but not tops so unless you want to plan a flight at 2,500'
with thunderstorms around that you can't see and go around you don't
know what altitude you will be at until you climb and look around.  I am
also covering a lot of ground quickly so I might climb to 14,000' to get
over clouds or might descent to 6,000 to get under or might divert
around a storm.  Can't plan for any of that on the ground.  And since I
might be making 170 MPG ground speed or might be 230 I usually make my
fuel stop decisions in the air also.



KR> Cross country planning and a KR

2016-08-19 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com


KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-19 Thread ml at n56ml.com
Folks who witnessed the attempted destruction of a stub spar at a past
Gathering will probably agree that the spars have a significant margin
of safety on the KRs. The spars were jacked up to the point of being
bent probably 14" upward from the fuselage, and neither fuselage nor
spars gave.  Finally, the shear web started to split, but the spars were
still fine and ready to accept more load.  Anybody who witnesses that
test had to walk away impressed with the spar strength, especially
considering that in anything like normal (but bumpy) flight, the wings
never even flex.

And despite all the concern about the WAFs and their connection, neither
wing component  is likely to fail, and in fact, never have in any kind
of normal (not crash) flight.  

Larry Flesner and I have seen wings where the spar broke on impact with
the ground at the bottom of a spin, and the spar broke a few inches from
the WAF, not at the WAF or the connections from WAF to spars.  

Marty Roberts used to fly big guys at the Gathering hard and fast, with
a gross weight of probably 1200+ pounds, and his g-meter would usually
come back with 6g's or so stuck on it.  He reset it for every flight.  

Just a data point, but I personally will lose no sleep over my spars
breaking...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML "at" N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com





KR> KR2S gross weight question

2016-08-19 Thread Doran Jaffas
I will add one more thought here. In many...not all small aircraft the wing
are just wont lift the weight it would take to break it in NORMAL flight .
As stated by the previous indivdual...aerobatics adds another and lighter
number to normal gross weight.
 I am new to KR aircraft as well and have spoken with some very
knowledgeable folks on here and I plan to use a general number they have
expressed and minus 5% to be extra careful until I understand her needs and
my ability with my KR2 grows.
Doran
On Aug 19, 2016 7:46 AM, "n357cj via KRnet"  wrote:

> Gary,
> I have N357Cj placarded at 1250# but I also lowered the G rating to +4 g
> and I don't remember the negative number right now. but in any case I don't
> feel it is simply a gross weight decision.
> Joe Horton
>
>
> Subject: KR> KR2S gross weight question
>
> I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
> info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking at
> tri-gear and Corvair engine.
>
>
>
>
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