KR> Porsche

[Gavin Donohoe]

Has the question been asked about the Porsche 2.4 litre six cylinder engine?? 
there is one here for sale at a good price and I was wondering if they are 
light enough for our use. 
I believe it's about 200 HP at 6000 rpm, maybe it'll do about 110hp at 3000???
Does anybody know of their weight and suitability? 


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KR> Gear attach fittings

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all, 
Is there any real need to flox my Deihl gear leg fittings to the spar ??
I was planning on using some wax paper under them, and then floxing them to the 
spar so they would be removable if need be.
The flox is just there to fill any irregularities on the surface isn't it ??


Gav 


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KR> EJ drive

[Gavin Donohoe]

Have any of you guys thinking of changing from the Subaru to Corvair power got 
a used Reduction unit for the EJ series engines for sale???


Gav


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KR> Jabiru Engine+Diehl Gear

[Gavin Donohoe]

HI Garrie,
  You must live close to me!! I'm in Gladstone QLD.
If you go to the SAAA web site and then look in the classifieds you  will
see someone in Victoria has a KR2 in boat stage for sale, it has Diehl gear
and a host of other things for sale that he won't separate, but it may be
worth a call to him.
Incidentally I'm looking for an engine too I was, and still may use the EJ22
Subaru engine, but I'm concerned with the weight !!! Maybe you know where I
can get an O200 Continental they're a fair bit lighter and easier to
install.

Gav



- Original Message -
From: "Garrie Burnell" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: KR> Jabiru Engine+Diehl Gear


> Has anyone installed an Australian made Jabiru 2200 engine in there KR-2.
I
> have a KR-2 built by someone else with a 1835VW engine. It works fine but
as
> it is a VW it is very noisy. The Jabiru engine's are very quiet, whisper
> quiet and very reliable and the factory is just up the road from me. So, I
> am going remove the VW and install the Jabiru and also remove the fixed
> taildragger gear to go with the Diehl tricycle gear, which is yet to be
> purchased. My next question is, does anyone have Diehl tri-gear for sale
and
> how does it stand up to roughish grass/dirt strips?
> Thanks, Garrie.
>
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KR> O200

[Gavin Donohoe]

HI All, 
I'm shying away from the EJ22 now in favour of the Continental O200 for weight 
reasons. Trouble is over here in Australia it's hard to get one (O200). Are 
they hard to get in the US as well? If not who would be able to help me find 
one and organise shipping to Australia? 

Gavin 
Australia
PS we don't get Corvairs here or I might have one of them instead


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KR> Wheel positionong

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
I'm fabricating my own Gear legs for a tricycle undercarriage on a KR2S.
How far should the wheel axle centre be behind the rear of the front spar  ???

Thanks 

Gav


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KR> Trigear

[Gavin Donohoe]

I own a Grumman Tiger and let me say the nose wheel is only the weak link if
the torque tube is delaminating !!! There is nothing wrong with the design,
and the aircraft should be treated the same as any other tri undercart
aircraft.
Most of the prop strikes are when the glue holding the torque tube together
fails and the whole assembly fails.

Gav
Australia





- Original Message -
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: KR> Trigear


> I have to agree with Larry and say that any trigear setup can be
collapsed.  One must remember to protect the nose gear by continuing the
back pressure increase throughout the flare until the nose settles on its
own, or damage can occur.  The Grumman Tiger, Cheetah, Traveler, and Lynx
all have the same type nose wheel, and it fairs them well, but is the weak
link.  This is where I have preached that one NEEDS to learn how to fly into
ground effect first, and then establish a landing attitude followed by a
gradual flare as the airspeed bleeds off. All too often pilots get in a
hurry to get into the flare attitude on the descent, and they are very near
the stall when they enter ground effect.  They try to continue flaring only
to find too little airspeed, and too little elevator left to flare, so the
nose drops as they drop crashing to the runway, smashing into a 3 point
which overloads the nose gear.  Descend down final, round out into ground
effect and pause as you fly in ground effe
>
> Colin & Bev Rainey
> KR2(td) N96TA
> Sanford, FL
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> or crbrn9...@hotmail.com
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KR> Larry Flesner

[Gavin Donohoe]

Go for 40 inches at the shoulders, that'll be heaps!!!

Gav

Australia




- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Jacobs" 
To: "'KRnet'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: KR> Larry Flesner


> Larry
> 
> I am trying to finalize the cockpit width - I have been studying
> pictures of aircraft with an occupant in the pilot's seat - in
> particular your bird and that of Chris Gardiner - both appear to have
> adequate space - but I am not sure how big the occupant is.
> 
> How wide would you make it if you built another 2S and wanted 2 seats?
> 
> I was surprised at how far you are seated away from the panel in your
> airplane - I suspect that you have no shortage of legroom - looks like a
> good 4" of headroom?
> 
> Does anyone know how big a fellow Chris Gardiner is - he looks very
> comfortable in his KR?
> 
> Maybe I trying an overkill with 1200 mm (47")
> 
> Thanks
> Steve (askies"AT"microlink.zm)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> EJ 22 engine mount

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,
I will soon be making my engine mount for my KR2S! I even have the plans from 
Don Reid but they don't specify the size and wall thickness tube to use.
I'm using an EJ22 Subaru engine, can anybody tell me what size tube should be 
used for this engine???


Thanks,
Gavin 

Australia   


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KR>Costs with spam cans

[Gavin Donohoe]

Well I've just completed my annual inspection of my Grumman Tiger, and guess 
what it came in at just a couple of hundred bucks (and that's Australian 
money), Not too bad huh !! Bet you're all wondering why I'm building a KR2S? 
Well I just can't stop thinking about the AUD $30,000  plus I have to spend in 
about 300 hours of flying when the Lyco runs out of time.
In Australia now we have the Experimental category, I'll be able to do all my 
own maintenance on my KR and flying will cost me next to nothing.

ROLL ON KR2S

Gav


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KR>Elevator trim

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
 I'm beginning to think of what I'll do with my elevator trim! I like 
the idea of the car electric mirror servo motor, but am wondering how to set up 
an indicator system so that I can set it to neutral during pre-flight? What did 
all you others do with yours? 

Thanks 
Gavin   

KR>Twins

[Gavin Donohoe]

I have some beaut pics of a twin VW powered plane, though I don't know what it 
is on my PC.
 If anybody wants to see it tell me where to send it so someone can post it on 
to their site.

Gavin 

Australia 


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KR>These 7 things: Auto vs Aero Engines for Aircraft

[Gavin Donohoe]

How many of you know that Subaru started designing and building aircraft and
Aero engines before they started to make cars??


Gavin
Australia

> Well the crank shaft on a auto engine in most cases is supported by the
use of a reduction drive to get the maximum efficencyand I don't see how
good logic comes into play to say single ignition systems are and will
failbe honest with a modern electronic
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KR>Spar questions

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,
Wow I've had a big day
I got about 10 hours done on my 2S. 
Horizontal stab glassed on the top, Spars fitted and ready for gluing, it's 
amazing how much time can be spent checking and double checking for level. 
Cockpit floor made and ready to glue in once I establish where my rudder pedals 
are going to be. Foam cut for the space under the floor, and a heap of other 
little time consumers.

A couple of questions.
Up until now I've been using Epiglass Everdure for a timber sealer, this needs 
several coats to fully seal the timber which is very time consuming. What are 
most people using for a sealer ? I surmised that I could just use 1 coat of 
resin to cover everything , How would this be? resin only needs a little 
sanding and it can be glued on with the west system but the Everdure can't be 
glued over.

1 bid doesn't look like it's strong enough on the horizontal stab!! Is this 
right? am I reading the plans correctly ? I thought 2  layers would be better 
but that's just me, I really don't know much about it.

I hope to glue my spars in tomorrow. What is the best way to get glue into all 
those joints while the spar is in there?? seems to me there is a lot of filling 
to do (well not a lot really) but seems the easiest way I can think of is to 
just wipe the glue in with my fingers and try to get full penetration.

Thanks in advance

Gavin 

Australia
Home of Steve Irwin,  model father  (LOL)







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KR>Hinges

[Gavin Donohoe]

What are the piano hinges for the ailerons made of? are they aluminium?
If it's aluminium are Wicks and Spruce the best places to get it? 
My local cabinet supplier has brass piano hinge on a roll though I suspect it 
will be a little heavy. 

Gav


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KR>Waf's

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
Just a few quick questions, I've just finished drilling my spars for the WAF's 
and am not sure about painting them. 
Should I glass blast them and paint or just leave them raw? I've had them lying 
around in the workshop for a bout 6 months now with no signs of surface rust !! 
does this 4130 steel rust or not? 
If I do paint them am I right in assuming that I don't paint the side that gets 
floxed to the spar ?
On another subject, there is a guy here in Australia who is casting main gear 
leg attach brackets and nose gear forks !! If I buy a fork from him and 
fabricate a nose strut to suit the prop I'm going to use, what size tube should 
I use for the nose strut? I assume it's about 1" dia but what should the wall 
thickness be ( what is Dan Diehl using ?)  

Thanks 

Gavin 


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KR>Tempering 4130

[Gavin Donohoe]

Oh I forgot can anybody tell me how to or where to get the information on 
tempering the 4130 tube for the nose strut I'm going to make? I've spoken with 
the local spring works and they have all the computerised gear, all they 
require from me is the tempering info.

Thanks

Gavin  


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KR>Brakes

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,

Can anybody share with me their successes with drum cable operated brakes such 
as the Azuza?? compared to disk hydraulic callipers.

Seems the drums are a lot less expensive and just as easy   to install, though 
I'm not sure how efficient they are. 
I'm planning on using 6" wheels and a tri gear.

Gavin 
Australia   


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KR>Brakes

[Gavin Donohoe]

I'm interested Tim can you contact me off the list and tell me more about
them? bear in mind that I'm in Australia and shipping may be more than that
. 
thanks

Gavin
gavinandlou...@bigpond.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Timothy Bellville" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: KR>Brakes


I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I will
part with for $40.00
(that should just about cover crating and shipping)
I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the spring bar(had
to cut it to remove it)
Tim
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Kr>Aluminum Kit

[Gavin Donohoe]

I asked the same question but nobody could/would help me so I sat down one
night and worked it all out ( took ages). There is no list that comes with
the plans!!! I just went through the drawing book and listed the
materials for each drawing, and then went back over it to get totals of the
same size materials  needed. Sorry I've misplaced mine since then.

Gavin
Australia
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: Kr>Aluminum Kit


> Im not interested in the parts themselves. I want the material
inventory
> list you should have gotten when you ordered the kit. I am going to dig
though
> the bin at work to see what I can find there. I know we have the stuff but
> its a matter of looking for it. I dont want to look for one piece at a
time, If
> I find 5 foot of U channel 6061 T-6 .125 and I cut off a foot to make a
part
> and put the rest back, then I find out later that I need more I'll have to
go
> on a treasure hunt for it again. If I know I'll need 5 feet total then Ill
keep
> in in my box.
>
> I sure some one out there has this list, If not i'll be hunting one peice
at
> a time.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Chris Theroux
> Gilbert, AZ
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KR>Les Palmer

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
I've been trying to contact Les and he's not answering !! does anybody know if 
he's away ??
Gav


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KR>5048 wing

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
Well I'll soon be starting on my wing and I've chosen the 5048, are there any 
good or bad reports about it yet ?? hows the performance shaping up??


Gavin 
Australia


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KR>5048 wing

[Gavin Donohoe]

That's right I've printed your plans from the pdf out and cut the
templates/ribs from the plans. it is 5048 / 5046

Gav
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: KR>5048 wing


> Gavin wrote:
>
> > Well I'll soon be starting on my wing and I've chosen the 5048, are
there
> any good or bad reports about it yet ?? hows the performance shaping up??<
>
> Don't you mean 48/46?  I don't think you want to use a pure 48 all the way
> to the root, at least it was discouraged by the designer.  None that I
know
> of, other than Dean Selby's, and he hasn't had much to say about it.
There
> will be a few next year though, including Mark Jones and others...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>
>
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KR>Les Palmer

[Gavin Donohoe]

I finally got in touch with Les Palmer. What a nice Guy, He is going to post me 
off a whole bunch of info about the EJ22 conversion because he's talked me into 
using one instead of the EA81 Subaru in my KR.
I know they're heavy but I'm light and so is my wife so I think It'll be ok.

Gavin


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KR>first flight in a kr-2s

[Gavin Donohoe]

Can you let us all know the performance figures with the Jab 3300 engine ???

Gav


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: KR>first flight in a kr-2s


> Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know today I got a chance to go for a
> flight with Ken Thomas in his KR-2S. It has a jabiru 3300 engine in it
putting out
> 120 hp, so even with the two of us and full fuel we got off the ground
rather
> quickly. I had talked to Ken last Friday since I am thinking about buying
a
> KR-2 and wanted to see what one looked like and what size the cockpit is.
He had
> told me how sensitive the elevator is, so I used his method of resting
your
> wrist on your thigh and only using a finger and thumb to control the
stick. I
> didn't have any trouble controlling the plane, Ken said I did a good job
> flying, and we did a few touch and goes. All I can say after flying one is
wow!  If
> all kr's fly that well I can see why there are so many builders and
pilots.
> Lastly, if all in the KR community are even half as friendly as Ken I know
I'm
> joining a terrific group.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> David Gilley
>
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KR>takeoff/rotate technique

[Gavin Donohoe]

How does it climb?? sorry I  don't know!!!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: KR>takeoff/rotate technique


> Yes, things are different with a Subaru.  My KR-2S has an EJ-22.  It
rotates
> at 60 mph...and then climbs likewell, you know.
>
> RV
>
> PS:  I now have 4 flights on my KR.  Aside from the fact that it is
running a
> little hot, I am quite pleased.
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KR>Psru

[Gavin Donohoe]

HI all I've been looking back through the archives about PSRU's for Subaru 
engines, and in about 2001 there was some posts about plans to construct one. I 
intend to build my own and most of the parts are available in my home town.  
Can anybody direct me to anyone who has the plans available please?

Thanks 
Gavin 
Australia 


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KR>Fiberglass

[Gavin Donohoe]

I wasn't serious about the black list stuff, it just seems silly to me that
all of you are all at work glassing etc and no one can tell me if I should
use 5oz or 100oz glass. And as it's no use asking the local fibreglass shop
because he's running scared by liability where aircraft are involved, yes
this list is our only hope.  Remember some of us don't know Jack SH--T about
fibreglass.


Gav


- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass


RE:I thought this list was to help people like myself who are all alone
out here with no local help.

Gavin,

You are right, this is your only hope.  I looked for the answer to your
question in AS and Wickes.  I found an Email address of pi...@beegroup.com
and my request to them was returned, address not known.  There ain't no
black list, we are all just busy building our planes and you have asked a
question for which we may not have a definitive answer.

Be thankful, when I built my first, I was all alone and had no KR Net.  I am
building now and can't tell you what glass to use.  I have tried two kinds
and cannot remember what they are, but it seems that the best one, although,
maybe a little heavy, is the one sold for the Long EZ.  If I remember
correctly, it is 5.5 oz bid glass.

I was going to look in my plans for you, but it is not in yours, I guess it
won't be in mine either.

It also is difficult to estimate the amount of glass you would use and what
kind to use and how much resin to use, because there are so many variables.
What if you bought all pre-molded parts and were using wing skins, how much
and what kind would you need.  People use all different kinds of resin, we
are using AeroPoxy, but will probably switch to West Systems for the cowling
mold, but if I bought a cowling that would fit, I would not need any of that
stuff.

Also, you will want to only but what you will need in the next 6 months or
so, because you want your resin to always be fresh.

Netters, how about some suggestions for glass type and weight and what resin
you like?  Maybe some pros and cons to go along with it.

N64KR

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

da...@kr-builder.org

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering

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KR>Fiberglass

[Gavin Donohoe]

Thanks all, I'll just get some boat building cloth now and use the West
System I know the ball park figure. I'm in Australia so I didn't even think
to look in Wicks or Spruce catalogues as I don't have them, (I know they're
online too)  Freight is prohibitively expensive anyway so a local product is
for me.

Gav
- Original Message - 
From: "Gavin Donohoe" <gavinandlou...@bigpond.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass


> I wasn't serious about the black list stuff, it just seems silly to me
that
> all of you are all at work glassing etc and no one can tell me if I should
> use 5oz or 100oz glass. And as it's no use asking the local fibreglass
shop
> because he's running scared by liability where aircraft are involved, yes
> this list is our only hope.  Remember some of us don't know Jack SH--T
about
> fibreglass.
>
>
> Gav
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass
>
>
> RE:I thought this list was to help people like myself who are all
alone
> out here with no local help.
>
> Gavin,
>
> You are right, this is your only hope.  I looked for the answer to your
> question in AS and Wickes.  I found an Email address of pi...@beegroup.com
> and my request to them was returned, address not known.  There ain't no
> black list, we are all just busy building our planes and you have asked a
> question for which we may not have a definitive answer.
>
> Be thankful, when I built my first, I was all alone and had no KR Net.  I
am
> building now and can't tell you what glass to use.  I have tried two kinds
> and cannot remember what they are, but it seems that the best one,
although,
> maybe a little heavy, is the one sold for the Long EZ.  If I remember
> correctly, it is 5.5 oz bid glass.
>
> I was going to look in my plans for you, but it is not in yours, I guess
it
> won't be in mine either.
>
> It also is difficult to estimate the amount of glass you would use and
what
> kind to use and how much resin to use, because there are so many
variables.
> What if you bought all pre-molded parts and were using wing skins, how
much
> and what kind would you need.  People use all different kinds of resin, we
> are using AeroPoxy, but will probably switch to West Systems for the
cowling
> mold, but if I bought a cowling that would fit, I would not need any of
that
> stuff.
>
> Also, you will want to only but what you will need in the next 6 months or
> so, because you want your resin to always be fresh.
>
> Netters, how about some suggestions for glass type and weight and what
resin
> you like?  Maybe some pros and cons to go along with it.
>
> N64KR
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
> da...@kr-builder.org
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>
> See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
> See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
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KR>First Flight for N4027Y

[Gavin Donohoe]

what reduction ratio are you using??


Gavin



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To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 4:28 PM
Subject: KR>First Flight for N4027Y


> Ladies and Gentlemen of the KRNET:
>
> It is my proud honor to announce that after 3 1/2 years of dedicated
> construction, my KR-2S with Subaru EJ-22 has taken flight.  On two
occasions today,
> N4027Y leapt off of runway 25 at Lompoc, California and climbed like
> an...overpowered KR-2S.  It flies straight and level with the elevator
trim in the
> neutral position and has no adverse roll tendency.  At low altitude and an
engine
> rpm of 4,000, (max will be about 5,000),
> I was indicating 160 mph.  I'll keep you all abreast of max climb and max
> cruise speeds as I cautiously approach the outer limits of the performance
> envelope.
>
> RV
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KR>First Flight for N4027Y

[Gavin Donohoe]

Sorry but what size prop are you using as and who's reduction unit (gear or
Belt drive) well?? I'm planning on a HO EA81
Subaru engine
and expect about the same power.

Gav


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From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 4:28 PM
Subject: KR>First Flight for N4027Y


> Ladies and Gentlemen of the KRNET:
>
> It is my proud honour to announce that after 3 1/2 years of dedicated
> construction, my KR-2S with Subaru EJ-22 has taken flight.  On two
occasions today,
> N4027Y leapt off of runway 25 at Lompoc, California and climbed like
> an...overpowered KR-2S.  It flies straight and level with the elevator
trim in the
> neutral position and has no adverse roll tendency.  At low altitude and an
engine
> rpm of 4,000, (max will be about 5,000),
> I was indicating 160 mph.  I'll keep you all abreast of max climb and max
> cruise speeds as I cautiously approach the outer limits of the performance
> envelope.
>
> RV
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KR>Brown and Bailies VW

[Gavin Donohoe]

Has anybody heard of Brown and Bailies VW conversions??

Gav


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KR>Controls

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,

I'm making my dual control stick assy  the same as Mark Langford's from bits 
and pieces around the workshop, and I have some 1 1/8" T6 alum tube I  was 
thinking of using for the stick.
Has anybody any ideas as whether this is going to be too large Diameter to be 
practical?? by this I  mean is it going to be too bulky and get in the way all 
the time?   I know it's over kill but hey it's free!!

Remember the home builders motto if it costs money it's too expensive.

Gav



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KR>Fibreglass

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi again,
OK so I don't know much about fibreglass yet though I  have the feeling that I 
will soon. I've searched through the instruction book and can't find anywhere 
where it says what weight glass to use.
Can  someone give me a list of glass weights for the various areas of the KR2S? 
And if you could also give me an approx amount to order of each? I know I could 
work it out easily but so many have done it before !!!

Thanks 
Gav  


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Fw: KR>Fibreglass

[Gavin Donohoe]

Oh and how much resin should I need?? I'll be using the West System

Thanks
Gav


- Original Message - 
From: "Gavin Donohoe" <gavinandlou...@bigpond.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: KR>Fibreglass


> Hi again,
> OK so I don't know much about fibreglass yet though I  have the feeling
that I will soon. I've searched through the instruction book and can't find
anywhere where it says what weight glass to use.
> Can  someone give me a list of glass weights for the various areas of the
KR2S? And if you could also give me an approx amount to order of each? I
know I could work it out easily but so many have done it before !!!
>
> Thanks
> Gav
>
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KR>Fiberglass

[Gavin Donohoe]

Well I guess all of you have nothing holding your KR's together other than 
epoxy! I thought this list was to help people like myself who are all alone 
out here with no local help.
You know I really don't have the information in my instruction book or the 
plans. Why doesn't someone tell me what weight glass you have used and where 
you get the information ?  it's ALMOST AS IF I've BEEN BLACKLISTED  this isn't 
really such a silly question is it compared to some I've read on here.  

Gav



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KR>(no subject)

[Gavin Donohoe]

Guess I'll just call RR

Gav


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KR>Props

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,
 Well I've decided on the Subaru engine at last and have one on the way to me 
with the H.O heads and cam!! Think I'll probably use a Sub 4 reduction drive 
and twin Bing Carbs, Can someone tell me the model number that  I'm after with  
carbs? and I'll need advice on props, I have a friend who is able to make 
wooden props but he'll be retired before I'm finished my project, so I want him 
to make me one soon. Has anybody got experience on diameter and pitch for the 
Subaru with about 110Hp that can  help me so I can get him started on it? I'd 
appreciate any advice on this.
My boat is almost finished, what a relief that'll be !!!

Thanks 

Gavin  



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KR>Lyc 0235 l2c

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi Gang ,

Has anybody used a Lycoming 0235 L2C from a C 152 and hows the performance 
weight etc?? looks like I can get one at a good price!!!  I'm planning on a 
wooden prop what dia and pitch? 

Gav 


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KR>Lyc again

[Gavin Donohoe]

I believe in the U.S there are suppliers for after market parts for Lycoming 
engines, so as to avoid the high costs of genuine parts can anybody advise me 
of some suppliers? Prices are outrageous here in Australia and I intend to 
overhaul myself!!

Gav  


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KR>Fuselage sides

[Gavin Donohoe]

Thanks all.

Gav
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry A Capps" 
To: "'KR builders and pilots'" 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:22 PM
Subject: KR>Fuselage sides


> Supplier of Deck Cloth:
> 
> RAKA
> 
> http://www.raka.com/fibergla.htm
> 
> CLOTH WEIGHT X  WIDTH (INCHES) X  30 YDS  
> 
> .55oz 38" $2.50
> .75oz  50"  $2.75
> 1.50 oz.  56"  $3.25
> 
> 
> Larry A Capps
> KR Newsletter CD
> Naperville, IL
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> Glassing the sides and bottom is optional, I chose
> to do it using a very light cloth that was very sheer, 
> the weight gain was negligible
> 
> I do recommend this as it really seals
> the wood.
> 
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KR>Vw v's Subaru

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
 Tell me please how many hours most are getting from their VW Type IV 
engines between major work, and if they are having any failures like the old 
ones used to??

Hows about the Subaru conversions the same questions.

I see the benefit of the VW is no expensive reduction drive!!! but do I 
sacrifice HP over the Subaru?? as the revs are lower.

Gavin  


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KR>Engines

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,

Well the age old question, Which engine to use for my KR2S???
Here in Australia we have an engine manufacturing facility for light aircraft 
engines called Jabiru, and from all accounts they are first class engines. This 
is what I was at first going to use. However the price is fairly high at just 
over $18000 AUD for a six cylinder 3300 cc model producing 120 hp.
At only  178 lbs in weight they are ideal power plants though a little out of 
my price range !!!
My question is if I go for a VW engine what size do I need for over 100 hp, and 
can I get a kit of accessories for it, and build an engine from the wrecking 
yard to fit them to???  Which model VW do I need?  What about Corvair engines 
for Australia ( we don't have them here ) How would I get one over here and 
what's available to help me build one??? How much are they second hand, and are 
there any left of the correct model for modification??  Hows the weight of an 
O200 conti compare to these options ?

Thanks 
Gavin   


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KR>Fuselage sides

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi again,
Things are progressing fairly quickly here, though I've looked hard I can't 
seem to work out wether the fuselage sides and bottom are eventually covered 
with glass !! Doesn't seem to say anywhere.  Help???
Has anyone formed their own gear legs from multiple lay-ups of glass ? If so 
how was it done ?

Gav




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KR>Spars

[Gavin Donohoe]

Is it really that important which way the grain in the spars run ?? Do the 
grain lines run vertical or horizontal when looking from the end if the spar 
material. 

Gav


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KR>Original KR

[Gavin Donohoe]

Are the original KR1/KR2's of Ken Rand still around???
Can someone fill me in on the history??


Gav


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KR>Spars

[Gavin Donohoe]

I've been reading on Marks site about the new airfoils and have decided to go 
with the 5048/6 option !! I also like the idea of starting the wing dihedral 
inboard of the first rib. Has anybody done this yet and how was it done ?? I 
have lots of timber but not the right thickness, Is it stronger to laminate the 
spar centre sections from maybe 1" planks and bend them on the bench before the 
glue is set ??Maybe 1" is too thick to laminate maybe I need thinner pieces but 
more of them?? Can someone with experience help to answer some of these 
questions?? I want my spar to be as strong as I can get it!!


Gav   


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KR>Glue joints

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi all,
I've started to lay the timber out ready for gluing the fuselage sides, and was 
wondering, what's the best way to clean up excess glue from the joints?? Am I 
better to wipe it off while  still wet? or am I better to let it dry  and chip 
it off? Which is less messy and most successful?

  Gavin 


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KR>Aussie Steel

[Gavin Donohoe]

OK all of you aussie KR netters, can you help me find out where to source the 
4130  steel and 6061-t6 for the Kr2 components ??? I've been unsuccessful so 
far and any help would be appreciated.

Maybe someone has some left over that they want to sell off!!! 
contact me by e-mail at gavinandlou...@bigpond.com  

Thanks Gav


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KR>VW/Zenith carb

[Gavin Donohoe]

Try the accelerator pump, it's probably not working at all.


Gav
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: KR>VW/Zenith carb


> I have been doing a lot of engine adjustments and running on the ground
this weekend.  I have a 2180 VW with a single mag and a Zenith carb.  I
believe that I have the idle and running mixture set correctly, but I am
having a problem when I advance the throttle fast.  If I push in the
throttle slowly (three to four seconds from idle to full speed) everything
is fine.  If I go any faster than that it will start to cough and it will
die if I do it fast enough.
>
> I had never seen this problem before on this or any other aircraft engine.
This may just be because I always advance the throttle smoothly and slowly
and this was the first time I have tried ramming it in.  This may be normal
for a plane without an accelerator pump.  I tried adjusting the idle mixture
richer and leaner, but it doesn't really seem to affect the way it reacts to
a fast throttle movement.
>
> Can anyone else with this engine and throttle combination comment on this?
>
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KR>Cocpit Widths

[Gavin Donohoe]

I've been studying the plans for a few days now, and you can imagine my 
surprise to find out that the KR2S plans don't actually allow for widening of 
the cockpit in the area that we sit !!!
I always assumed that the cockpit was stretched as well as everything else, 
I've got a Grumman Tiger at the moment too and it's 40" inside at the sitting 
position. How many have stretched the KR2S to about 40" inside measurements and 
how do they look ??? I don't to widen it and look like a pregnant goldfish!
How do they perform at this size?


Gav  


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KR>Wing Profiles

[Gavin Donohoe]

Well Mark, I've got my plans now, and after all the to and froing about 
airfoils can you say conclusively which should be the best fit for the KR2S 
built from scratch??
I've read about the 5048 and agree it's probably the best. How many are flying 
and how is  the performance shaping up?? Has there been any change from the 
5048 section lately to anything more suited??


Gavin


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KR>Fixed verses retract

[Gavin Donohoe]

Seems like all of us build the KR because of it's speed on moderate HP!! I'm
starting a project soon on a KR2S and I am wondering about retractable
verses fixed gear?? What are the speed penalties for the fixed?  I'm
planning on a tricycle cart at the moment.

Gav


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KR>KR 2S Plans

[Gavin Donohoe]

Does anybody have some KR2S plans unused available, at a discounted price?


Thanks

Gav


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KR>Engine weights

[Gavin Donohoe]

Recently there was a post about the weights of most common KR engines !!! And 
I've lost the web site that tells all. Can someone please let me know how to 
find it again?



Thanks
Gav  


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KR>New wing plans

[Gavin Donohoe]

Hi All,
 I Have been trying to print the plans for the new wing profiles, which 
I downloaded from the net in PDF format !!! But I can't make it happen, Can 
anybody please tell me how it's to be done so that I can have a good look at 
them in full size?


Gavin  


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KR>Subaru Power

[Gavin Donohoe]

Has anybody tried Subaru power and was it successful??
What  kind of horsepower and performance did you get ???
Does the extra weight over aircooled engines affect overall performance?

Thanks 
Gavin 


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