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hi, I only can tell you my decision why whe choosed for the bmw r1200gs. Weight is low, about 99kg included prop (10kg) muffler, gearbox, mount, cowlings. 10/12 liter p/hour. 110 hp In europe you can buy the gearbox and a plug computer, whe will try to use the original computer but if doesnt work we will by the plug and play. One of the cherry bx2 builders made a video on youtube about the bmw engine. Search on youtube atcherry bmw 1200 And for the gearbox info Google takeoff bleidiesel. if we have the engine running with the original computer I will let you know.(this will be in a few months) Stef Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2 >Origineel Bericht >Van : krnet at list.krnet.org >Datum : 04/03/2016 22:32 >Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org >Cc : bjoenunley at gmail.com >Onderwerp : KR> Alternative Engines > > > >Dear All, >I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. ?My dream is to have an >O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding one that I can >afford.? >?What experience do you have with other engines? ? >I have searched for a corvair. >I purchased a 110HP Honda engine but couldn't reprogram the cpu. >I like the BMW motorcycle engine but feel that I'd have the same problem with >the cpu. >The Yamaha Genesis three cylinder 130HP snowmobile engine could be promising. >Old Subaru engines are a possibility, still have a cpu. >I am confident that I can build a belt driven redrive to fit most anything. >Thank you for your wisdom. >Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida? >___ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. >To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >options >
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Joe, I went the Subaru route and got quite far. If you are interested e-mail me directly at steate at compositecooling.com and I will give you all the details. Stephen -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of bjoenunley via KRnet Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 3:33 PM To: KRnet Cc: bjoenunley Subject: KR> Alternative Engines Dear All, I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. ?My dream is to have an O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding one that I can afford. ?What experience do you have with other engines? I have searched for a corvair. I purchased a 110HP Honda engine but couldn't reprogram the cpu. I like the BMW motorcycle engine but feel that I'd have the same problem with the cpu. The Yamaha Genesis three cylinder 130HP snowmobile engine could be promising. Old Subaru engines are a possibility, still have a cpu. I am confident that I can build a belt driven redrive to fit most anything. Thank you for your wisdom. Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, you should delete this message. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized, and any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful.
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We (Larry Bell and I) have most of a VW type 4 that we would sell fairly cheap Bill Masquelier From: KRnet on behalf of bjoenunley via KRnet Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 1:32 PM To: KRnet Cc: bjoenunley Subject: KR> Alternative Engines Dear All, I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. My dream is to have an O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding one that I can afford. What experience do you have with other engines? I have searched for a corvair. I purchased a 110HP Honda engine but couldn't reprogram the cpu. I like the BMW motorcycle engine but feel that I'd have the same problem with the cpu. The Yamaha Genesis three cylinder 130HP snowmobile engine could be promising. Old Subaru engines are a possibility, still have a cpu. I am confident that I can build a belt driven redrive to fit most anything. Thank you for your wisdom. Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options
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What BMW motorcycle engine are you talking about? Plenty of their bikes date back to the era before CPUs and use a pair of Bing carburetors. (And virtually all old motorcycle engines can be fitted with electronic ignitions. I have one on my 1972 Norton Commando). Mike Taglieri On Mar 4, 2016 10:16 PM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" wrote: > Joe Nunley wrote: > > I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. My dream is to >> > have an O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding > one that I can afford. What experience do you have with other engines?< > > Regarding the Corvair, have you contacted any local Corvair clubs, > visited, spoken at their monthly meeting that you need an engine to power > an airplane? That's what I did, and that's where my first engine came > from. Have you joined the CorvAircraft email list and asked there? Also, > I don't know if he still does this, but Larry Hudson used to sell core > Corvair engines and would deliver them to Corvair Colleges. I think Joe > Horton either sold or offered a Corvair just a few weeks ago. > > Given my checkered record with Corvair crankshafts, it may be a surprise > that I still think a Corvair is a viable aircraft engine, IF it has a NEW > 4340 crankshaft from Sport Performance Aviation in it (but they aren't > cheap!). Sure...most reground stock crankshafts seem to last as long as a > fifth bearing is installed, mine being the notable exception so far. The > rest of that engine is just about trouble free. They run a lot cooler than > a Type 1 VW due to having more fin area, have very few valve issues thanks > to self adjusting hydraulic valves, and you only adjust the valves one > time, on the workbench, for the life of the engine. And the big payoff is > the safety of six cylinders and gobs more power to get altitude quickly for > a safer climbout. Yes, I'm still a big fan of the Corvair. > > Having said that, with the money you'll put into a Corvair, or even a new > VW, you could spend a little more and rebuild an O-200 and have a very > reliable engine as well. If reliability is your ultimate goal, you should > keep beating the bushes for an inexpensive O-200. If they are simply out > of range, the Corvair is a good runner-up, and statistically, a reground > stock crank is a pretty good bet, given that only one has failed with a > fifth bearing, as far as I know...mine! When you factor in a torn up > airplane, the playing field is more-than leveled when you start with an > O-200... > > Mark Langford > ML at N56ML.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options >
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Joe Nunley wrote: >I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. My dream is to have an O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding one that I can afford. What experience do you have with other engines?< Regarding the Corvair, have you contacted any local Corvair clubs, visited, spoken at their monthly meeting that you need an engine to power an airplane? That's what I did, and that's where my first engine came from. Have you joined the CorvAircraft email list and asked there? Also, I don't know if he still does this, but Larry Hudson used to sell core Corvair engines and would deliver them to Corvair Colleges. I think Joe Horton either sold or offered a Corvair just a few weeks ago. Given my checkered record with Corvair crankshafts, it may be a surprise that I still think a Corvair is a viable aircraft engine, IF it has a NEW 4340 crankshaft from Sport Performance Aviation in it (but they aren't cheap!). Sure...most reground stock crankshafts seem to last as long as a fifth bearing is installed, mine being the notable exception so far. The rest of that engine is just about trouble free. They run a lot cooler than a Type 1 VW due to having more fin area, have very few valve issues thanks to self adjusting hydraulic valves, and you only adjust the valves one time, on the workbench, for the life of the engine. And the big payoff is the safety of six cylinders and gobs more power to get altitude quickly for a safer climbout. Yes, I'm still a big fan of the Corvair. Having said that, with the money you'll put into a Corvair, or even a new VW, you could spend a little more and rebuild an O-200 and have a very reliable engine as well. If reliability is your ultimate goal, you should keep beating the bushes for an inexpensive O-200. If they are simply out of range, the Corvair is a good runner-up, and statistically, a reground stock crank is a pretty good bet, given that only one has failed with a fifth bearing, as far as I know...mine! When you factor in a torn up airplane, the playing field is more-than leveled when you start with an O-200... Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com
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Joe; Still available in my town: RevMaster 2000cc w/dual mag, no carb, $1000. Could help ship . Peter
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Dear All, I am in search of an affordable engine, as we all are. ?My dream is to have an O200 because I would like to have 100HP, not much luck finding one that I can afford.? ?What experience do you have with other engines? ? I have searched for a corvair. I purchased a 110HP Honda engine but couldn't reprogram the cpu. I like the BMW motorcycle engine but feel that I'd have the same problem with the cpu. The Yamaha Genesis three cylinder 130HP snowmobile engine could be promising. Old Subaru engines are a possibility, still have a cpu. I am confident that I can build a belt driven redrive to fit most anything. Thank you for your wisdom. Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?
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Netters: I read an article in the Oct. 26th Wall Street Journal that drew my attention to Fiat's 1.3 liter (1259 cc) Diesel engine that is being used in many Euro small cars. This peeked my interest in light of a couple of entrys that appeared on this forum so I investigated on the net. The performance specs for that engine are 69 hp and 125 ft. lb of torque at 2000 rpm which is interesting. What I have not been able to find is the weight of this engine with its injector pump and all things needed to make it run plus of course the cooling and electrical systems. I invision then that it would need to find "Jet A" or the diesel fuel used by the military to be acceptable. Are their any KR-Netters out there that can obtain weights and reliability info on this engine? This may need to come from some of Non-USA contributers since diesel are not all that common here. Don Lively Burlington IA 52601 ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
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Don, I will try and do some research on the Fiat. For that hp, it must be a turbo diesel. As for the fuel, the French guru of Diesel, Serge Pennec, says you can use Jet A1 in a conventional Diesel. All you have to do is mix it with a bit of oil. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Canberra, Australia "D F Lively" <riksh...@interl.net> Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net 28/10/2006 00:23 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 28/10/2006 00:23 Pour : "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Alternative Engines Netters: I read an article in the Oct. 26th Wall Street Journal that drew my attention to Fiat's 1.3 liter (1259 cc) Diesel engine that is being used in many Euro small cars. This peeked my interest in light of a couple of entrys that appeared on this forum so I investigated on the net. The performance specs for that engine are 69 hp and 125 ft. lb of torque at 2000 rpm which is interesting. What I have not been able to find is the weight of this engine with its injector pump and all things needed to make it run plus of course the cooling and electrical systems. I invision then that it would need to find "Jet A" or the diesel fuel used by the military to be acceptable. Are their any KR-Netters out there that can obtain weights and reliability info on this engine? This may need to come from some of Non-USA contributers since diesel are not all that common here. Don Lively Burlington IA 52601 ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html " Ce courriel et les documents qui y sont attaches peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire escompte, merci d'en informer l'expediteur immediatement et de detruire ce courriel ainsi que tous les documents attaches de votre systeme informatique. Toute divulgation, distribution ou copie du present courriel et des documents attaches sans autorisation prealable de son emetteur est interdite." " This e-mail and any attached documents may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and all attached documents from your computer system. Any unauthorised disclosure, distribution or copying hereof is prohibited."