KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat industries. Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet coating in this area. I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyor...@qx.net
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
You are talking about a temperature difference on the outside of the pipe of damn hot and real damn hot, not enough difference to notice on your carb heat. You also need to have them coat the inside of the pipes, especially if they are not stainless. If they don't coat the inside the increased temps will eat up your pipes a lot faster tahn if you didn't coat them. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:24 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat industries. Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet coating in this area. I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyor...@qx.net ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
No, I have the coating on my exhaust. I had it done local. Although the temp will be lower, have them coat the entire area. The real bennifit is the quickness in cooling after you shut down. Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ l...@vandyke5.com - Original Message - From: <jeffyor...@qx.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat industries. > > Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet coating in this area. > > I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. > > Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? > > Jeff York > KR-2 Flying > N839BG > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
Is there enough temp difference to allow me to not have to put the temp rap back on the pipes. The temp rap seems to be drwing mosture and causing oxidation. I obviously want to get rid of the rust and prevent further rust so as to extend the life of the exhaust. Of course I also want to lower the temps under the cowl . Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyor...@qx.net - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > You are talking about a temperature difference on the outside of the pipe of > damn hot and real damn hot, not enough difference to notice on your carb > heat. You also need to have them coat the inside of the pipes, especially > if they are not stainless. If they don't coat the inside the increased > temps will eat up your pipes a lot faster tahn if you didn't coat them. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:24 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > > > I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating > the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat > industries. > > Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you > need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet > coating in this area. > > I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the > exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could > carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. > > Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any > pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to > get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for > cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? > > Jeff York > KR-2 Flying > N839BG > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
Jeff, All kind of stuff on heat muffs at http://krbuilder org/FirewallForward/index.html We used Jet Hot and with the system I am using as described above, I get over a 100 RPM drop when I apply carb heat. I am expecting that cabin heat will work just as well also. The pipes cool down very fast. We were running some tests at WOT and after turning the engine off, within a minute or so, the pipes were cool. I saw some other posts about coating inside and out, and, that is exactly what Jet Hot does. I don't think you can beat it. I did not mask off any areas for heat muffs. If the pics and narratives on the site do not answer your questions, just let me know. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ---Original Message--- When using a carb heat muff, do you need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet coating in this area.
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
I think they tell you not to wrap the pipes after the treatment. Lee - Original Message - From: <jeffyor...@qx.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Re: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > Is there enough temp difference to allow me to not have to put the temp rap > back on the pipes. The temp rap seems to be drwing mosture and causing > oxidation. I obviously want to get rid of the rust and prevent further rust > so as to extend the life of the exhaust. Of course I also want to lower the > temps under the cowl . > > Jeff York > KR-2 Flying > N839BG > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:47 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > > > > You are talking about a temperature difference on the outside of the pipe > of > > damn hot and real damn hot, not enough difference to notice on your carb > > heat. You also need to have them coat the inside of the pipes, especially > > if they are not stainless. If they don't coat the inside the increased > > temps will eat up your pipes a lot faster tahn if you didn't coat them. > > > > Brian Kraut > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > > www.engalt.com > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > > Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net > > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:24 PM > > To: KRnet > > Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > > > > > > I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic > coating > > the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat > > industries. > > > > Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you > > need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet > > coating in this area. > > > > I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the > > exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get > could > > carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. > > > > Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any > > pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to > > get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow > for > > cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? > > > > Jeff York > > KR-2 Flying > > N839BG > > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >
KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
You don't want to use the exhaust wrap on regualar steel exhaust. The extra heat will rust them out in no time. Use the wrap only on stainless exhausts. Once you do the ceramic coating you won't need to worry about wrapping them unless it is just a small area by a cowl or hose or something else you are trying to protect. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:00 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat Is there enough temp difference to allow me to not have to put the temp rap back on the pipes. The temp rap seems to be drwing mosture and causing oxidation. I obviously want to get rid of the rust and prevent further rust so as to extend the life of the exhaust. Of course I also want to lower the temps under the cowl . Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyor...@qx.net - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: RE: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > You are talking about a temperature difference on the outside of the pipe of > damn hot and real damn hot, not enough difference to notice on your carb > heat. You also need to have them coat the inside of the pipes, especially > if they are not stainless. If they don't coat the inside the increased > temps will eat up your pipes a lot faster tahn if you didn't coat them. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:24 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat > > > I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating > the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat > industries. > > Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you > need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet > coating in this area. > > I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the > exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could > carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes. > > Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any > pics of cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to > get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for > cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat? > > Jeff York > KR-2 Flying > N839BG > Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 > Email jeffyor...@qx.net > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
