KR> Landing KR's

[Colin Rainey]

Please do not say there are NO differences between landing 3 point and wheel
landing. THAT is just not true!

In your experience you may not have had any difference show itself, but do
not lead some pilots who are looking to this list for guidance to believe
that landing 3 point is as easy and should be done regardless of wind
conditions. If it was not different, it would not be taught that way!

Fact: whan it is windy, and landing a TAILWHEEL airplane, due to the length
of the gear (mains to tailwheel) there is additional leverage gained by the
wind to cause the tailwheel airplane to try to ground loop vs. the tri-gear.
The landing attitude of any airplane taildown puts the plane closer to the
backside of the power curve, which is an area of LESS positive control.
Since crosswinds tend to cause more control issues, worsened if they are
variable, this is not the place to be during a landing.  By wheel landing,
the pilot sees much more of the runway allowing for subtle changes in
alignment to be seen sooner, and smooth corrections made. If the nose is in
the way, only your peripheral vision can help you and you must judge from
the distance seen to the edge.

That kind of logic is out there, but I have always disagreed with it: you
can do a short field landing two ways; nose high behind the power curve like
a bush pilot, or nose down, with full flaps early and good power control and
technique. Difference: the nose high will NOT make the runway if he has a
power failure; the nose down pilot will.

Same with nose high 3 point when it would be best to wheel land and roll out
alittle longer: if all goes well, great; if a sudden gust comes up, and the
pilot does not have the experience to correct, off the runway he goes or
ground loop.  If you don't have to land at minimums why do so?  Build in all
the fudge factor that you can. That is where the phrase came from, "the last
notch of flaps comes in once you have made the fence".

I HAVE landed a KR2 in 20 knot 45 degree crosswinds gusting to 35 knots and
variable. I wheel landed at 90 mph approach, 85 short final, and was safe
all the way, with full control. I would NEVER have considered a 3 point
landing in that wind (and I did 10 circuits that day).

Colin Rainey
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KR> Landing KR's

[Benjamin Copeland]

I just put it on reserve at my local library.


Benjamin F. Copeland IV
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704-222-9213 (cell)
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- Original Message - 
From: "AVLEC" <av...@telkomsa.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Landing KR's


>I have heard so much about "Stick and rudder", where can I get it?
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> KR2SRT builder
> South africa
> Whisper assembler
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> mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: <laser...@juno.com>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 05:45
> Subject: KR> Landing KR's
> 
> 
>> The single most helpful resource for me when trying to get comfortable
>> landing my first KR was the chapter called "The Landing" in Wolfgang
>> Langewiesche's book, Stick and Rudder.  
> 
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KR> Landing KR's

[Randy Smith]

Like I said. It is what you are comfortable with.
there are arguments both ways. On a tail wheel plane
the tail is coming down anyway you will lose site,for
me I always do it early

--- Colin Rainey  wrote:

> Please do not say there are NO differences between
> landing 3 point and wheel
> landing. THAT is just not true!
> 
> In your experience you may not have had any
> difference show itself, but do
> not lead some pilots who are looking to this list
> for guidance to believe
> that landing 3 point is as easy and should be done
> regardless of wind
> conditions. If it was not different, it would not be
> taught that way!
> 
> Fact: whan it is windy, and landing a TAILWHEEL
> airplane, due to the length
> of the gear (mains to tailwheel) there is additional
> leverage gained by the
> wind to cause the tailwheel airplane to try to
> ground loop vs. the tri-gear.
> The landing attitude of any airplane taildown puts
> the plane closer to the
> backside of the power curve, which is an area of
> LESS positive control.
> Since crosswinds tend to cause more control issues,
> worsened if they are
> variable, this is not the place to be during a
> landing.  By wheel landing,
> the pilot sees much more of the runway allowing for
> subtle changes in
> alignment to be seen sooner, and smooth corrections
> made. If the nose is in
> the way, only your peripheral vision can help you
> and you must judge from
> the distance seen to the edge.
> 
> That kind of logic is out there, but I have always
> disagreed with it: you
> can do a short field landing two ways; nose high
> behind the power curve like
> a bush pilot, or nose down, with full flaps early
> and good power control and
> technique. Difference: the nose high will NOT make
> the runway if he has a
> power failure; the nose down pilot will.
> 
> Same with nose high 3 point when it would be best to
> wheel land and roll out
> alittle longer: if all goes well, great; if a sudden
> gust comes up, and the
> pilot does not have the experience to correct, off
> the runway he goes or
> ground loop.  If you don't have to land at minimums
> why do so?  Build in all
> the fudge factor that you can. That is where the
> phrase came from, "the last
> notch of flaps comes in once you have made the
> fence".
> 
> I HAVE landed a KR2 in 20 knot 45 degree crosswinds
> gusting to 35 knots and
> variable. I wheel landed at 90 mph approach, 85
> short final, and was safe
> all the way, with full control. I would NEVER have
> considered a 3 point
> landing in that wind (and I did 10 circuits that
> day).
> 
> Colin Rainey
> Independent Loan Officer
> Branch 2375
> Apex Mortgage Company
> 386.615.3388 Office
> 407.739.0834 Cell
> 407.557.3260 Fax
> brokerpi...@bellsouth.net
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KR> Landing KR's

[pe...@heroic.co.uk]

I suppose the bottom line is 3 pointing lands the plane at the lowest
possible air speed, so this is the most stable way to make a landing.

As Mark mentioned the 3 point attitude gives a wing incidence of about 9
degrees, the wings will stall at 17 degrees, so the planes not close to
the stall at 3 pointing speed.

If I wheel on and dump it down too hard, she will leap back into the air
as the CG being behind the main wheels will cause the plane to nose up,
and as I still have flying speed she may get several feet into the air.
This tends to lead low time pilots to lower the nose further with the
inevitable crunching result.

If I 3 point and dump it down too hard, it may still bounce, but there is
very little flight left in the bird, the only energy to launch the plane
back into the air is the springs in the undercarriage.

I take the point that wheeling on gives the pilot a better view over the
nose, but ground loops tend to happen at much lower speed - when the
rudder runs out of authority, so all that happens is the pilot delays the
ground loop.

I also take the point that it is easier to judge the height when you can
see over the nose, but that's not to say you cannot fly down into ground
effect, and then just keep bringing the stick back so that the nose comes
up as the speed bleeds off and you sink on to all 3 wheels.

I know easier said than done !!

KR> Landing KR's

[Willie van der Walt]

  This is my 1st post and not sure if it will work. I bought a KR2 last 
month that did 180 hours already but it is almost 20 years old. I repainted 
it now and will do my first flight 2nd week of August. Reading about landing 
I am wondering I you can not flare enough, as the seed bleeds down to touch 
the tailwheel 1st. You should not be bouncing then. I do it with my VP2 and 
the landings looks like perfect 3 pointers.

  Regards

  Willie van der Walt South Africa

  - Original Message - 
  From: <pe...@heroic.co.uk>
  To: <kr...@mylist.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: KR> Landing KR's


  >
  > I suppose the bottom line is 3 pointing lands the plane at the lowest
  > possible air speed, so this is the most stable way to make a landing.
  >
  > As Mark mentioned the 3 point attitude gives a wing incidence of about 9
  > degrees, the wings will stall at 17 degrees, so the planes not close to
  > the stall at 3 pointing speed.
  >
  > If I wheel on and dump it down too hard, she will leap back into the air
  > as the CG being behind the main wheels will cause the plane to nose up,
  > and as I still have flying speed she may get several feet into the air.
  > This tends to lead low time pilots to lower the nose further with the
  > inevitable crunching result.
  >
  > If I 3 point and dump it down too hard, it may still bounce, but there 
is
  > very little flight left in the bird, the only energy to launch the plane
  > back into the air is the springs in the undercarriage.
  >
  > I take the point that wheeling on gives the pilot a better view over the
  > nose, but ground loops tend to happen at much lower speed - when the
  > rudder runs out of authority, so all that happens is the pilot delays 
the
  > ground loop.
  >
  > I also take the point that it is easier to judge the height when you can
  > see over the nose, but that's not to say you cannot fly down into ground
  > effect, and then just keep bringing the stick back so that the nose 
comes
  > up as the speed bleeds off and you sink on to all 3 wheels.
  >
  > I know easier said than done !!
  >
  >
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KR> Landing KR's

[Willie van der Walt]

  Must say I am a bit nervous thinking about me flying the KR2 for the 1st 
time. I will do some taxi work first and then fast runs with the tail up. 
After that take off and go up high to do a stall to calculate the lowest 
indicated speed over the numbers. ( stall plus 25%) I will pick a day 
without wind and keep the nose up on round out until the stick is in my 
belly and try to put the tail wheel down first. I am scared to start with 
wheelers because of the sensitive pitch. I fly a Hatz Biplane for the last 
15 years and it is almost impossible to make a bad landing with that. I also 
fly other tail draggers like the VP2 (easy) The Kitfox and Bushbaby is not 
that easy but after a few years I fly them relatively well by now. Landing 
on sandbanks in the river and the beach is no problem. The thing is with 
Hatz you sit behind the C of G and can feel what the plane is doing. It is 
not the case with the Kitfox. How does the KR2 compare to a Kitfox in terms 
of landing? Is it mush more difficult to fly?

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
  To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:34 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Landing KR's


  > Willie van der Walt wrote:
  >
  >> I am wondering I you can not flare enough, as the speed bleeds down to
  >> touch
  >> the tailwheel 1st. You should not be bouncing then. I do it with my VP2
  >> and
  >> the landings looks like perfect 3 pointers.
  >
  > That's about what I do.  Sometimes the tailwheel hits first, but the 
locals
  > call them 3 pointers anyway, probably to be charitable.  I'm going to 
add
  > some 3" gear extensions shortly (vertical plates between gear leg 
bracket
  > and axle), but it probably won't be in time for the Gathering, since I 
have
  > a bunch of stuff like transponder installation to do first.  This will 
allow
  > slightly slower landings (1.5 more degrees of incidence), 3 more inches 
of
  > prop clearance, and even less visibility over the nose while taxiing, 
but
  > that's overrated anyway.:  )
  >
  > I knocked out another trip to my father's farm yesterday, landing in 
grass
  > that had seed heads about 24" tall.  You could see the path I cut 
through
  > it!  That's the last time I show up unannounced!  A great landing 
though,
  > and all around another great KR trip, doing about 145 mph TAS  while 
burning
  > 4 gph at 9500'.  The new engine is running very smoothly, and with 15 
hours
  > on it now, I think the rings have seated and it's ready to go to the
  > Gathering...
  >
  > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
  > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
  > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
  >
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KR> Landing KR's

[Dan Heath]

If you ever go to a KR Gathering, you will see that most, if not all, of the
conventional gear KR pilots land tail low and raise the tail as soon as the
mains are on the pavement.  Many years ago, a very long time KR pilot gave
me that advise.  It did not really stick until on one landing, I got a
little sloppy and allowed the tail to come down, before I could not keep it
up any longer.  The plane immediately became airborne and I ground looped. 
3 point landings in a KR, require absolute precision with little to no room
for error.  If you are looking for a little forgiveness on that first
landing, plan on doing wheel landings.  Do this until you have complete
control over your airspeed and feel totally comfortable with the plane. 
Then you can experiment with 3 pointers.

Read:  http://members.socket.net/~jfaughn/kr/uniquepartsofmykr/kr_landing
html by another long time conventional gear KR pilot.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
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has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Willie van der Walt
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 09/18/06 14:25:49
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Landing KR's

  Must say I am a bit nervous thinking about me flying the KR2 for the 1st
time.  I am scared to start with
wheelers because of the sensitive pitch. 

KR> Landing KR's

[James c Ferris]

You have the right idea,I read Bill Rents page on KRnet about taxing his
KR-1 for ten hoursbefore he flew it but he flew it for more than Twenty
years, having a lot of fun. I had started one in the early seventies but
my friends said i would kill myself in it so I sold the project and lost
twenty years of fun. just make sure you have the pitch feel wit the tail
up before you fly and you  will be OK.
Jim  
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:25:32 +0200 "Willie van der Walt"
<touri...@intekom.co.za> writes:
>   Must say I am a bit nervous thinking about me flying the KR2 for 
> the 1st 
> time. I will do some taxi work first and then fast runs with the 
> tail up. 
> After that take off and go up high to do a stall to calculate the 
> lowest 
> indicated speed over the numbers. ( stall plus 25%) I will pick a 
> day 
> without wind and keep the nose up on round out until the stick is in 
> my 
> belly and try to put the tail wheel down first. I am scared to start 
> with 
> wheelers because of the sensitive pitch. I fly a Hatz Biplane for 
> the last 
> 15 years and it is almost impossible to make a bad landing with 
> that. I also 
> fly other tail draggers like the VP2 (easy) The Kitfox and Bushbaby 
> is not 
> that easy but after a few years I fly them relatively well by now. 
> Landing 
> on sandbanks in the river and the beach is no problem. The thing is 
> with 
> Hatz you sit behind the C of G and can feel what the plane is doing. 
> It is 
> not the case with the Kitfox. How does the KR2 compare to a Kitfox 
> in terms 
> of landing? Is it mush more difficult to fly?
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
>   To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>   Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: KR> Landing KR's
> 
> 
>   > Willie van der Walt wrote:
>   >
>   >> I am wondering I you can not flare enough, as the speed bleeds 
> down to
>   >> touch
>   >> the tailwheel 1st. You should not be bouncing then. I do it 
> with my VP2
>   >> and
>   >> the landings looks like perfect 3 pointers.
>   >
>   > That's about what I do.  Sometimes the tailwheel hits first, but 
> the 
> locals
>   > call them 3 pointers anyway, probably to be charitable.  I'm 
> going to 
> add
>   > some 3" gear extensions shortly (vertical plates between gear 
> leg 
> bracket
>   > and axle), but it probably won't be in time for the Gathering, 
> since I 
> have
>   > a bunch of stuff like transponder installation to do first.  
> This will 
> allow
>   > slightly slower landings (1.5 more degrees of incidence), 3 more 
> inches 
> of
>   > prop clearance, and even less visibility over the nose while 
> taxiing, 
> but
>   > that's overrated anyway.:  )
>   >
>   > I knocked out another trip to my father's farm yesterday, 
> landing in 
> grass
>   > that had seed heads about 24" tall.  You could see the path I 
> cut 
> through
>   > it!  That's the last time I show up unannounced!  A great 
> landing 
> though,
>   > and all around another great KR trip, doing about 145 mph TAS  
> while 
> burning
>   > 4 gph at 9500'.  The new engine is running very smoothly, and 
> with 15 
> hours
>   > on it now, I think the rings have seated and it's ready to go to 
> the
>   > Gathering...
>   >
>   > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
>   > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
>   > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>   >
>   >
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KR> Landing KR's

[Myron (Dan) Freeman]

Hi Guy's;

I've been reading all of the e-mails on landing KR's and which is the best way 
to do it. Well, I've done it both ways but I decided to give it a lot of 
practice in X-Plane and see if I could decide which way I thought was best (it 
really depends on your skill at either) so I set up a situation on short final 
in X-Plane with NMYKR2 (a tail dragger) and saved it so that I could repeat it 
quickly without flying the whole circuit to save time. I've got to admit that I 
prefer a wheel landing if I've got plenty of runway. There's better visability 
over the nose from your higher airspeed and keeping the tail up untill 
established on your rollout but if your real good in controling your plane then 
a three pointer is also easy to do. So I guess the question goes on, you'll 
have to decide for yourself.

I remember seeing a pilot landing a P-51 Mustang in a stiff crosswind out in 
Vagas, he landed it on the right wheel with the tail up and kept it there just 
as smooth as could be untill there was no more air to keep him up and the left 
wheel and tail came down so smooth and slow that I bet it wouldn't have rippled 
the water in a glass. Now that's one kind of skill.

Regards, Dan F. 

KR> Landing KR's

[Dan Heath]

---Original Message---
So I guess the question goes on, you'll have to decide for yourself.
---Original Message---

Well actually you don't, if you are willing to take the advise of those who
have been there and done that.  I sold my first KR and explained about how
to land the plane.  The person took my advise and was doing OK.  Then the
airport bums, who had never even seen a KR, let alone flown one, convinced
him that he was doing it wrong.  He was a very accomplished conventional
gear pilot, and was used to doing 3 point landings.  Their prodding
convinced him to go back to 3 point landings.  On the first one, he broke
the KR and it has not flown since.

Colin gave you some very good advise.  He is a KR pilot and CFI, and has
flown many different types of planes.  You can either take the advise of
those who have been there and done that, or just do it the way you THINK it
should be done, or maybe listen to your Mooney pilot buddy because he has
over 1000 hours.

Sorry that the link to Jim Faughn's "how to make perfect landings in a KR"
is not there.  I wrote to him and hope to find out where it went.  If anyone
has a copy of it, I will be glad to put it on my site, or better yet, it
should be on KRNet.org.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Landing KR's

[Mark Jones]

Dan Heath wrote:
> Sorry that the link to Jim Faughn's "how to make perfect landings in a KR"
> is not there.  I wrote to him and hope to find out where it went.  If 
> anyone
> has a copy of it, I will be glad to put it on my site, or better yet, it
> should be on KRNet.org.



Here is the link for Jim Faughn's "The Perfect Landing"
http://members.socket.net/~jfaughn/kr/uniquepartsofmykr/kr_landing.html

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com 

KR> Landing KR's

[Brian Kraut]

I never bought that part in the book and I can tell you from experience that
it is not impossible in a KR, not by a long shot.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
laser...@juno.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:45 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Landing KR's


The single most helpful resource for me when trying to get comfortable
landing my first KR was the chapter called "The Landing" in Wolfgang
Langewiesche's book, Stick and Rudder.   Specifically, the section in
that chapter called "Wheel" Landings (page 305).   I learned that the
aerodynamic forces when planting the wheels on the runway make it
impossible to hit the prop through using too much forward stick,
something I had been worried about until then with my 56-inch Maloof CS
prop and short retractable gear legs.

I'm not sure if it's impossible or not, but I took Langewiesche's word
for it and I've never worried about excessive forward stick from then on.
 This wonderful old book is well worth a read (or re-read) for anyone
contemplating a first flight.

Mike

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KR> Landing KR's

[Randy Smith]

I never bought that part in the book and I can tell
you from experience 
that
it is not impossible in a KR, not by a long shot.

Landing on the mains and landing three point. It all
depends on what you are comfortable with. I had over
700 hrs on my KR-2 before I sold it and I probably
landed on the mains 1 out of 10 times. Some people
will tell you it is better to land on the mains in a
crosswind. It really doesn't matter. I have over 600
hrs in my 1947 Bellanca cruiseair and I can't remember
the last time I landed on the mains. you eventually
have to slow down anyway so why not get the tail down
as soon as you can so the tail wheel will help in the
crosswind.

I am now flying Les Palmers KR and the landing
attitude is the same as my old taildragger. You do
lose vision with the tail down but that is going to
happen sooner or later anyway. He is right about the
prop hitting. I never read that book but the plane
will go over far enough to hit the blades.  Bin there
done that. 

I hope to see you'all at the KR gathering.

--- Brian Kraut <brian.kr...@engalt.com> wrote:

> I never bought that part in the book and I can tell
> you from experience that
> it is not impossible in a KR, not by a long shot.
> 
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
>
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of
> laser...@juno.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:45 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Landing KR's
> 
> 
> The single most helpful resource for me when trying
> to get comfortable
> landing my first KR was the chapter called "The
> Landing" in Wolfgang
> Langewiesche's book, Stick and Rudder.  
> Specifically, the section in
> that chapter called "Wheel" Landings (page 305).   I
> learned that the
> aerodynamic forces when planting the wheels on the
> runway make it
> impossible to hit the prop through using too much
> forward stick,
> something I had been worried about until then with
> my 56-inch Maloof CS
> prop and short retractable gear legs.
> 
> I'm not sure if it's impossible or not, but I took
> Langewiesche's word
> for it and I've never worried about excessive
> forward stick from then on.
>  This wonderful old book is well worth a read (or
> re-read) for anyone
> contemplating a first flight.
> 
> Mike
> 
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KR> Landing KR's

[Allen Wiesner]

It's not impossible, I did it while learning to do wheel landings in my 
C-170B at Manassas, VA in the 70's.  Cost me a trip to Sensenich in PA and 
1/2" from the tips.

Allen G. Wiesner  KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118
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KR> Landing KR's

[AVLEC]

I have heard so much about "Stick and rudder", where can I get it?
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2SRT builder
South africa
Whisper assembler
See: www.whisperaircraft.com
mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 05:45
Subject: KR> Landing KR's


> The single most helpful resource for me when trying to get comfortable
> landing my first KR was the chapter called "The Landing" in Wolfgang
> Langewiesche's book, Stick and Rudder.