KR> aileron linkage bearing ends. elevator hinges per plans or double up on hinges

2012-12-23 Thread Jim Sporka
Hi Dean, I'll add that the quantity of hinges as designed are fine, However I 
am using Bronze bushings in the aluminum hinges to prevent wear.
I have heard stories of sloppy controls due to the bolt hinge holes being worn 
and elongated.
I used bronze bushings from the hardware store, some are staright( the inner 
hinge member), and I used some flanged(outer -overlapped-hinge member . The 
bolts keep the bushings captive.  I'll try to post pics soon.
Hope this helps,  
Jim



From: Dean Choitz 
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Subject: KR> aileron linkage bearing ends. elevator hinges per plans or double 
up on hinges





what bearing end are most kr builders using on ailerons heim aurora hfe ect. 
are most builders using plans for elevator, rudder hinges or are they doubling 
up on hinges. wing question i believe wings for my project are the rf48 airfoil 
was considering 
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KR> aileron linkage bearing ends. elevator hinges per plans or double up on hinges

2012-12-20 Thread Dean Choitz




what bearing end are most kr builders using on ailerons heim aurora hfe ect. 
are most builders using plans for elevator, rudder hinges or are they doubling 
up on hinges. wing question i believe wings for my project are the rf48 airfoil 
was considering 


KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
My Acro Sport had bent pushrods like you are describing so they would clear
the bottom of the rear spar. To me the linkage rod off the bellcrank could
have been made slightly longer so you would have had a straight pushrod
though

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV




Larry wrote:

I have seen a couple of KRs where this linkage (the rod) was bent to
accomodate 
the proper angle for that plane. I am not saying that this is the best thing
to 
do, just saying that I have seen that done before.
I am not sure if it matters, but I don't think I would bend mine unless it
was 
absolutely necessary. Mark is right, usually this linkage is about 6 inches
long 
on a plans built system.







KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Larry H.
I have seen a couple of KRs where this linkage (the rod) was bent to accomodate 
the proper angle for that plane. I am not saying that this is the best thing to 
do, just saying that I have seen that done before.
I am not sure if it matters, but I don't think I would bend mine unless it was 
absolutely necessary. Mark is right, usually this linkage is about 6 inches 
long 
on a plans built system.
Larry H.





From: Mark Langford n5...@hiwaay.net


Since the rod was aluminum, it might have been 1/4-28 threads, now that I 
think about it.  Somebody's probably got a pair of these somewhere...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com


KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
> I'll go one better, what about these?
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#rod-ends/=98sk3x

Since the rod was aluminum, it might have been 1/4-28 threads, now that I 
think about it.  Somebody's probably got a pair of these somewhere...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com



KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
I'll go one better, what about these?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#rod-ends/=98sk3x

they have right and left hand threads so one simply turns it to adjust the
proper alignment of the ailerons. Granted, it would need to use 1/4 rod
bearings, but if you use the aluminum ones they sell, you are saving even
more weight.

Just a thought

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



Mark L wrote:

The short answer to your question is 6061-T6 aluminum.

I'm not really qualified to answer this, since my ailerons are completely 
different from what the plans call for, but at the time I built my plane, 
Rand Robinson was selling what looked like a short linkage with rod end 
bearings on each end (and I think the housings on those were aluminum), 
joined by a short aluminum rod that was threaded 3/16 on each end.  The 
whole thing was maybe 5" (that's probably in the plans), it was very light, 
and was almost certainly a specialty item made just for that application. 
Maybe Steve Glover sells those these days, but you turn down your own 
version of the center member if you had a lathe, the experience to run it, 
and the time to do it.  And then there's locating the lightweight rod end 
bearings, but I'm sure they're available from somewhere...




KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Mike Sylvester

> Alright Guys, come to my rescue. Am I overlooking what the aileron linkage 
> is made of in the plans ?

The short answer to your question is 6061-T6 aluminum.

I'm not really qualified to answer this, since my ailerons are completely 
different from what the plans call for, but at the time I built my plane, 
Rand Robinson was selling what looked like a short linkage with rod end 
bearings on each end (and I think the housings on those were aluminum), 
joined by a short aluminum rod that was threaded 3/16 on each end.  The 
whole thing was maybe 5" (that's probably in the plans), it was very light, 
and was almost certainly a specialty item made just for that application. 
Maybe Steve Glover sells those these days, but you turn down your own 
version of the center member if you had a lathe, the experience to run it, 
and the time to do it.  And then there's locating the lightweight rod end 
bearings, but I'm sure they're available from somewhere...

Mark Langford
n5...@hiwaay.net
website www.n56ml.com



KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Mine are made of  1/8th aluminum angle, 6061 T6.

http://krbuilder.org/Aileron/index.html

First pic, and

http://krbuilder.org/Aileron/AileronLinkage/index.html

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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Subject: KR> aileron linkage


Alright Guys, come to my rescue. Am I overlooking what the aileron linkage
is made of in the plans ? What do you make the outside linkage that hooks
directly to the aileron out of ? I need to get the linkages to know how much
to notch out the stub and main wing. Thanks.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854


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KR> aileron linkage

2010-10-11 Thread MICHAEL SYLVESTER

Alright Guys, come to my rescue. Am I overlooking what the aileron linkage is 
made of in the plans ? What do you make the outside linkage that hooks directly 
to the aileron out of ? I need to get the linkages to know how much to notch 
out the stub and main wing. Thanks.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854