Re: KR> trip home

[Daniel Heath via KRnet]

My favorite kind of flying.  On the way to the KR Gathering in 2013, I was at a 
GPS ALT of 14,000 and was splitting clouts like that.  Awesome.

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Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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Here is a view out the window of the KR at 10K on the trip home yesterday.  It 
got much thicker at times.  I had to zig zag back and forth across the magenta 
line to stay VFR.   Ended up with scattered rain showers within a few miles of 
the airport but I was able to maintain VFR.  I prefer CAVU.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbu94lnblexuzyf/image00%20copy%204.jpg?dl=0

Larry Flesner


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Re: KR> trip home

[Jeff Scott via KRnet]

Pretty much the same view coming home for me.  I was flying around between the 
tops at 10,500' west bound.  Normal ops for this time of year.  Super smooth 
yesterday both directions and no haze.  I sat there hands off all the way there 
and all the way home.

-Jeff Scott


> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:14 AM
> From: "Flesner via KRnet" 
> To: krnet@list.krnet.org
> Cc: "Flesner" 
> Subject: KR> trip home
>
> 
> 
> Here is a view out the window of the KR at 10K on the trip home 
> yesterday.  It got much thicker at times.  I had to zig zag back and 
> forth across the magenta line to stay VFR.   Ended up with scattered 
> rain showers within a few miles of the airport but I was able to 
> maintain VFR.  I prefer CAVU.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbu94lnblexuzyf/image00%20copy%204.jpg?dl=0
> 
> Larry Flesner


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KR> trip home

[Flesner via KRnet]

Here is a view out the window of the KR at 10K on the trip home 
yesterday.  It got much thicker at times.  I had to zig zag back and 
forth across the magenta line to stay VFR.   Ended up with scattered 
rain showers within a few miles of the airport but I was able to 
maintain VFR.  I prefer CAVU.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbu94lnblexuzyf/image00%20copy%204.jpg?dl=0

Larry Flesner


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KR> Trip on Sunday

[Robert Pesak via KRnet]

I think I’m goin to be flying too Charleston, SC tomorrow morning. If your 
going to be at KRHP on Sunday I’ll stop on my why back too to Nashville, 
(Lebanon, TN.M54)

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KR> trip

[Bill Jacobs]

Larry,What radio do you have?Thank you,Bill

Bill Jacobs, Daytona Beach Florida  

  On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:   

?By the way, my 
little $250 hand held radio with external antenna has an easy 75 mile 
range.? Why spend more

Larry Flesner


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KR> trip

[Larry Flesner]

I just returned from a 182 mile trip to visit family and be honored 
with 4 of my brothers at a Salute to Veterans Day at the local Junior 
High school.  We spoke to 7 different classrooms of young students 
and shared our military experiences.

Clear blue skies on the trip north with a 20 mph wind right on the 
nose.  I returned with a 25 mph wind right on the tail, not a bump in 
the air, 100 mile visibility, and made the 182 mile trip in 1 hour 
and 7 minutes.  KR's are real traveling machines.  By the way, my 
little $250 hand held radio with external antenna has an easy 75 mile 
range.  Why spend more

Larry Flesner

KR> Trip pictures

[laser147 at juno.com]

If I didn't have things waiting on me back home I would have rather
stayed in Oregon.  It's the worst time of year in SoCal, as those who
attended last year's Gathering will know.  

So cool and beautiful up there.  So dry and hot down here.  It's "Santa
Ana" time in this part of the world and doesn't look like we're getting a
break until a week from now when it's predicted to drop into the mid
80's.  

I want to move to Oregon.  

http://1drv.ms/1Uxv3lz

Mike
KSEE

KR> Trip Report

[Larry H.]

Jeff
Your trip diagram on the map looks like a redbirds head looking to the left, 
heehee
 
Curious about the Lowrance 2000C GPS  you have. I remember when those came out. 
I thought they were the best handheld available at the time for the money. Do 
you think you might be able to update the charts software in it through another 
software developer like Seattle Avionics, Jeppeson or whomever since Lowrance 
may not or does not have update software available? I know several people who 
still use their Lowrance 2000 gps whether black & white or color.
I purchased a BendixKing AV80R Ace at Oshkosh this year. It started out as a 
$2,000.00 unit then dropped to around $1,200.00 then at Oshkosh, King decided 
to drop the price to around $300.00. This unit has a split screen capablity, 
Traffic, weather capability, XM or ADSB plug or WiFi. An amazing unit 
considering the price. There may still be some available I have no idea. The 
yearly cost to update the software is $47.00 dollars I think and I believe it 
is certified to carry all needed charts, VFR and IFR. When I am on my computer 
I get notifications from the software on my computer that updates are available 
that it downloads for me automatically. I insert the SD card out of the AV80R 
ACE into my laptop and it downloads the updates while I do other things. Very 
convenient, plus it tells me when to update. They may all be like this now for 
all I know.
The bottom line is Bendix King had orginally had an agreement with Jeppeson to 
load all the charts on the AV80R ACEs and Jeppeson is what was on my GPS when I 
bought it this summer but then BendixKing changed over to Seattle Avionics as 
their charts supplier for the unit. This is why I ask if someone else maybe has 
the ability to update the Lowrance series. Just a thought Jeff, thanks for the 
trip report.
 
One more question, with your Continental 0200 engine, what is your maximum 
altitude capability or do you know? and what is your typical cruise speed and 
fuel burn?
 
Larry H.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 From: Jeff Scott 
 .  
Ray,

I posted this previously, but it apparently failed to go through...

I would recommend .  Here's a link that shows my flight 
path for the last week or so.

-Jeff Scott
.  

KR> Trip Report

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 10/11/2012 1:26 PM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> Ray,
>
> I posted this previously, but it apparently failed to go through...
>
> I would recommend .  Here's a link that shows my flight 
> path for the last week or so.
>
> -Jeff Scott
>
> 


AWESOME, Virg

KR> Trip Report

[Jeff Scott]

Ray,

I posted this previously, but it apparently failed to go through...

I would recommend <http://skyvector.com>.  Here's a link that shows my flight 
path for the last week or so.

-Jeff Scott

<http://skyvector.com/?ll=37.048162626123094,-93.77490234686559&chart=301&zoom=10&plan=A.K2.KLAM:G.37.91993450172905,-103.50604248324363:G.39.489628607692566,-103.60217285433401:A.K2.KAKO:V.K3.OFK:A.K3.21D:A.K3.KTVK:A.K3.4C8:A.K3.KMYJ:A.K7.KMKL:A.K7.KGCY:A.K7.04TN:A.K7.6A4:A.K7.KGEV:A.K6.KHLX:A.K7.KGMU:A.K7.0A7:A.K7.KGMU:A.K7.KHAB:A.K4.M18:A.K4.2O8:V.K4.DHT:A.K2.KLAM>


> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Fuenzalida
> Sent: 10/11/12 10:57 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Trip Report
> 
> Just a quick question for the more knowledgable out there.  Is there a web 
> site/program that has the entire country on a map and then has areas broken 
> down (like sectionals) that you can zoom into and label all the airports you 
> have visited?My mother has a world map at her house and a little pin in every 
> city she has visited. It is a fun thing for her to look at and plan where she 
> is going next.   It would be overwhelming to have a real size map with every 
> airport listed so that you could put a metaphorical pin in it.  But a map 
> that would expand and collapse so that you could log and see every landing 
> would be fun. Does that kind of animal exist?  Thanks.RayNew Orleans

KR> Trip Report - Flying with the iFly 720 GPS and SkyRadar ADSB Weather

[Jeff Scott]

> - Original Message -
> From: Jeff Scott
> Sent: 10/11/12 11:17 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: RE: KR> Trip Report - Flying with the iFly 720 GPS and SkyRadar ADSB 
> Weather
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mark Langford
> > Sent: 10/11/12 04:13 AM
> > To: 'KRnet'
> > Subject: RE: KR> Trip Report
> > 
> > Awesome trip report, Jeff! I'm envious. We truly are flying personal
> > time machines. I've been hoping for a trip out west for years now, but it
> > looks like it'll be a little further away for me. 
> > 
> > I have an iFly 720 as well, and would be very interested to hear your ADSB
> > lessons learned. I'm a bit on the fence about buying the SkyRadar unit, or
> > waiting a while for the next generation. I'm sure you could shed some light
> > on that. It'll be a few more weeks before I get back in the air again, but
> > I'm steadily working toward that.
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Mark Langford
> > m...@n56ml.com 
> > see experimental N56ML at www.N56ML.com 
> > 
> 

I hope you'll all forgive the repost of my earlier post.  I posted with the 
spell checker off, so had lots of typos that I didn't catch.  After re-editing 
my post, I am re-posting it for better readability.  -Jeff
> 
For the last several years, I have been flying with a Lowrance 2000c gps.  Nice 
function.  Intuitive application.  Overall the nicest GPS I've ever used.  
However, when the economy went south, Lowrance chose to abandon the struggling 
aviation market for greener pastures and orphaned the Lowrance Aviation GPS 
line, leaving me with no support for updates.  Now that my database had 
exceeded 2 years out of date, I felt compelled to replace the unit.

After a great deal of study, this spring I bought the iFly 720 unit.  I was 
really interested in the iPads, but found that the size of the iPad simply was 
not compatible with the cockpit spaces to use in both the KR and the SuperCub.  
So, I decided on the iFly unit.  Shortly after I bought the GPS, I saw that 
SkyRadar was selling an ADSB weather receiver that would talk to it via WiFi, 
making both easily portable between my two planes.

I have done a bit of local flying with the units, but had not been more than 
150 miles from home with them yet, so hadn't really depended on them working 
properly for some serious cross country flying.  The last two weeks was an 
opportunity to really exercise and learn the systems as I flew from NM, to MN, 
to IA, to TN, to various destinations around TN, VA, NC and SC, then back 
across GE, AL, MS, AR, OK, TX and NM. 

Technical Issues:
Ever since I bought these units, about 35 percent of the time, the ADSB 
receiver simply never showed up on the GPS.  That trend continued on this 
flight, but was finally resolved two days ago.  I found that upon boot up, 
sometimes the WiFi connection between the two devices simply failed to 
establish itself.  This was noted by selecting weather mode and finding it 
labeled "Pre-Flight Weather".  I found that on boot up, it was best if I 
brought up the aviation GPS application, then put it in the background and went 
back to setup for the WiFi and made sure it established the WiFi connection.  
Once this was done, the connection was reliable.  This could also have been 
resolved by buying the USB cable to connect the SkyRadar unit directly to the 
GPS, which is how it is used with the iFly 700 unit.  When I was preparing to 
leave Greenville, SC under low ceilings, the ADSB weather came on line as soon 
as I booted the system.  When I went to taxi out, I found that I had left the 
chocks under the wheels so had to shut down to unchock the plane.  When I 
booted it back up again, all I could get was "Pre-Flight Weather", which is 
what I finally figured out that day meant, the WiFi connection had failed to 
connect.

OK, technical issues aside and now resolved, the ADSB weather is really nice to 
have in the cockpit, but does have some limitations.  In weather mode, you do 
get NexRad radar images overlaid on the GPS moving map.  It is not a nationwide 
image.  There is an oval shaped circle showing the coverage area you are 
receiving with a time stamp on it telling you how many minutes old the data you 
are seeing is.  The oval is typcally around 200 - 300 miles by up to 400 miles 
in size for the NexRad radar coverage.  Only once during this trip was I 
dodging rain showers where the NexRad radar would have been very useful, but on 
that leg of the trip, the WiFi connection had failed and I hadn't discovered 
yet why the SkyRAdar was failing to connect.  The rest of the time my issue was 
with low ceilings and winds.

Airport information and winds aloft from ADSB Weather:
The airport information from ADSB Weather is really nice to have.  I

KR> Trip Report - Flying with the iFly 720 GPS and SkyRadar ADSB Weather

[Jeff Scott]

> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Langford
> Sent: 10/11/12 04:13 AM
> To: 'KRnet'
> Subject: RE: KR> Trip Report
> 
> Awesome trip report, Jeff! I'm envious. We truly are flying personal
> time machines. I've been hoping for a trip out west for years now, but it
> looks like it'll be a little further away for me. 
> 
> I have an iFly 720 as well, and would be very interested to hear your ADSB
> lessons learned. I'm a bit on the fence about buying the SkyRadar unit, or
> waiting a while for the next generation. I'm sure you could shed some light
> on that. It'll be a few more weeks before I get back in the air again, but
> I'm steadily working toward that.
> 
> Thanks, 
> Mark Langford
> m...@n56ml.com 
> see experimental N56ML at www.N56ML.com 
> 


For the last several years, I have been flying with a Lowrance 2000c gps.  Nice 
function.  Intuitive application.  Overall the nicest GPS I've ever used.  
However, when the economy went south, Lowrance chose to abandon the struggling 
aviation market for greener pastures and orphaned the Lowrance Aviation GPS 
line, leaving me with no support for updates.  Now that my database had 
exceeded 2 years out of date, I felt compelled to replace the unit.

After a great deal of study, this spring I bought the iFly 720 unit.  I was 
really interested in the iPads, but found that the size of the iPad simply was 
not compatible with the cockpit spaces to use in both the KR and the SuperCub.  
So, I decided on the iFly unit.  Shortly after I bought the GPS, I saw that 
SkyRadar was selling an ADSB weather receiver that would talk to it via WiFi, 
making both easily portable between my two planes.

I have done a bit of local flying with the units, but had not been more than 
150 miles from home with them yet, so hadn't really depended on them working 
properly for some serious cross country flying.  The last two weeks was an 
opportunity to really exercise and learn the systems as I flew from NM, to MN, 
to IA, to TN, to various destinations around TN, VA, NC and SC, then back 
across GE, AL, MS, AR, OK, TX and NM. 

Technical Issues:
Ever since I bought these units, about 35 percent of the time, the ADSB 
receiver simply never showed up on the GPS.  That trend continued on this 
flight, but was finally resolved two days ago.  I found that upon boot up, 
sometimes the WiFi connection between the two devices simply failed to 
establish itself.  This was noted by selecting weather mode and finding it 
labeled "Pre-Flight Weather".  I found that on boot up, it was best if I 
brought up the aviation GPS application, then put it in the background and went 
back to setup for the WiFi and made sure it established the WiFi connection.  
Once this was done, the connection was reliable.  This could also have been 
resolved by buying the USB cable to connect the SkyRadar unit directly to the 
GPS, which is how it is used with the iFly 700 unit.  When I was preparing to 
leave Greenville, SC under low ceilings, the ADSB weather came on line as soon 
as I booted the system.  When I went to taxi out, I found that I had left the 
chocks under the wheels so had to shut down to unchock the plane.  When I 
booted it back up again, all I could get was "Pre-Flight Weather", which is 
what I finally figured out that day meant, the WiFi connection had failed to 
connect.

OK, technical issues aside and now resolved, the ADSB weather is really nice to 
have in the cockpit, but does have some limitations.  In weather mode, you do 
get NexRad radar images overlaid on the GPS moving map.  It is not a nationwide 
image.  There is an oval shaped circle showing the coverage area you are 
receiving with a time stamp on it telling you how many minutes old the data you 
are seeing is.  The oval is typcally around 200 - 300 miles by up to 400 miles 
in size for the NexRad radar coverage.  Only once during this trip was I 
dodging rain showers where the NexRad radar would have been very useful, but on 
that leg of the trip, the WiFi connection had failed and I hadn't discovered 
yet why the SkyRAdar was failing to connect.  The rest of the time my issue was 
with low ceilings and winds.

Airport information and winds aloft from ADSB Weather:
The airport information from ADSB Weather is really nice to have.  In weather 
mode, every airport with an AWOS or ASOS system gets a color depiction showing 
whether it is VFR, MVFR, or IFR.  Each airport on the map also has a wind 
vector and speed indication over top of the airport.  That is great information 
to have on hand with a quick glance at the map.  By selecting any airport 
either by searching for the airport using the "Find Airport" button, or by 
selecting it on the screen, you get the full interpreted English language METAR 
report with a time stamp stating how many minutes the data 

KR> Trip Report

[Jeff Scott]

Ray,

I would suggest SkyVector.com.  Here's a link showing my flight path for the 
last couple of weeks.

-Jeff

http://skyvector.com/?ll=37.048162626123094,-93.77490234686559&chart=301&zoom=10&plan=A.K2.KLAM:G.37.91993450172905,-103.50604248324363:G.39.489628607692566,-103.60217285433401:A.K2.KAKO:V.K3.OFK:A.K3.21D:A.K3.KTVK:A.K3.4C8:A.K3.KMYJ:A.K7.KMKL:A.K7.KGCY:A.K7.04TN:A.K7.6A4:A.K7.KGEV:A.K6.KHLX:A.K7.KGMU:A.K7.0A7:A.K7.KGMU:A.K7.KHAB:A.K4.M18:A.K4.2O8:V.K4.DHT:A.K2.KLAM

> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Fuenzalida
> Sent: 10/11/12 10:57 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Trip Report
> 
> Just a quick question for the more knowledgable out there.  Is there a web 
> site/program that has the entire country on a map and then has areas broken 
> down (like sectionals) that you can zoom into and label all the airports you 
> have visited?My mother has a world map at her house and a little pin in every 
> city she has visited. It is a fun thing for her to look at and plan where she 
> is going next.   It would be overwhelming to have a real size map with every 
> airport listed so that you could put a metaphorical pin in it.  But a map 
> that would expand and collapse so that you could log and see every landing 
> would be fun. Does that kind of animal exist?  Thanks.RayNew Orleans
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Jeff Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> All told, I made stops in:
> Los Alamos, NM
> Akron, CO
> Norfolk, NE
> Lake Elmo, MN, 
> Centerville, IA
> Albia, IA
> Mexico, MO
> Jackson, TN
> Greenville, TN
> Hensley Air Park, TN
> Greeneville, TN
> Mountain City, TN
> Jefferson, NC
> Hillsville, VA
> Greenville, SC
> Hendersonville, NC
> Greenville, SC
> Hamilton, AL
> Hope, AR
> Hinton, OK
> Dalhart, TX
> Los Alamos, NM
> 
> 
> Facts and figures.  The SkyVector flight planner says I flew  nautical 
> miles.  Of course that doesn't include flying patterns in and out of the 
> airports or the horsing around and diversions that I did. I would round that 
> up to roughly 3600 nautical miles or 4150 statute miles.  The hobbs meter 
> recorded 30.9 hours.  That includes all the taxiing around and all the time 
> spent on the ground when the master switch is on.  For actual flight time, I 
> should have used the Tach, but didn't record it before I left.  I would 
> estimate 28.9 actual flight hours based on my fuel burn.  All told, I burned 
> 158.9 gallons of fuel at a cost of $861.62 for an average price of $5.42/gal 
> and an average mileage of 26.1 mpg. 
> 
> I've got an iFly 720 GPS and a SkyRadar ADSB weather receiver.  If there is 
> any interest, I'll be happy to write a summary about flying most of the 
> country and what I learned about flying with ADSB weather and specifically, 
> some of the issues I ran into with my iFly and SkyRadar ADSB receiver.
> 
> Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
> 
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KR> Trip Report

[Ray Fuenzalida]

Just a quick question for the more knowledgable out there.  Is there a web 
site/program that has the entire country on a map and then has areas broken 
down (like sectionals) that you can zoom into and label all the airports you 
have visited?My mother has a world map at her house and a little pin in every 
city she has visited. It is a fun thing for her to look at and plan where she 
is going next.   It would be overwhelming to have a real size map with every 
airport listed so that you could put a metaphorical pin in it.  But a map that 
would expand and collapse so that you could log and see every landing would be 
fun. Does that kind of animal exist?  Thanks.RayNew Orleans

--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Jeff Scott  wrote:


All told, I made stops in:
Los Alamos, NM
Akron, CO
Norfolk, NE
Lake Elmo, MN, 
Centerville, IA
Albia, IA
Mexico, MO
Jackson, TN
Greenville, TN
Hensley Air Park, TN
Greeneville, TN
Mountain City, TN
Jefferson, NC
Hillsville, VA
Greenville, SC
Hendersonville, NC
Greenville, SC
Hamilton, AL
Hope, AR
Hinton, OK
Dalhart, TX
Los Alamos, NM


Facts and figures.  The SkyVector flight planner says I flew  nautical 
miles.  Of course that doesn't include flying patterns in and out of the 
airports or the horsing around and diversions that I did. I would round that up 
to roughly 3600 nautical miles or 4150 statute miles.  The hobbs meter recorded 
30.9 hours.  That includes all the taxiing around and all the time spent on the 
ground when the master switch is on.  For actual flight time, I should have 
used the Tach, but didn't record it before I left.  I would estimate 28.9 
actual flight hours based on my fuel burn.  All told, I burned 158.9 gallons of 
fuel at a cost of $861.62 for an average price of $5.42/gal and an average 
mileage of 26.1 mpg. 

I've got an iFly 720 GPS and a SkyRadar ADSB weather receiver.  If there is any 
interest, I'll be happy to write a summary about flying most of the country and 
what I learned about flying with ADSB weather and specifically, some of the 
issues I ran into with my iFly and SkyRadar ADSB receiver.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

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KR> Trip Report

[Jeff Scott]

I spent about 3 hours at Hendersonville, so walked through the museum and along 
the north side.  I spoke to a number of pilots along the north side and saw 2 
Mustang IIs there, so undoubtedly one of them was your fathers.

Best regards,

-Jeff Scott

> - Original Message -
> From: phillabaum...@aol.com
> Sent: 10/11/12 06:34 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> Trip Report
> 
> Jeff,
> Great read with my coffee this morning.
> This has inspired me more to complete my project than some posts in a while.
> 
> Lets hear some more like this from others.
> 
> While you were in Hendersonville did you visit the "North End Gang"? My dad 
> keeps his Mustang II there. Also they have a great Museum.
> 
> Ok I need to build my wings now. Sitting in the plane playing make believe 
> needs to get real.
> 
> Steve Phillabaum
> KR2S, no engine no outboard wings
> Shorter, Alabama

KR> Trip Report

[Teate, Stephen]

"If there is any interest, I'll be happy to write a summary about flying most 
of the country and what I learned about flying with ADSB weather and 
specifically, some of the issues I ran into with my iFly and SkyRadar ADSB 
receiver."


Sounds like an excellent forum for next year's gathering too.

Stephen Teate
Paradise, Texas

KR> Trip Report

[phillabaum...@aol.com]

Jeff,
Great read with my coffee this morning.
This has inspired me more to complete my project than some posts in a while.

Lets hear some more like this from others.

While you were in Hendersonville did you visit the "North End Gang"? My dad 
keeps his Mustang II there.  Also they have a great Museum.

Ok I need to build my wings now. Sitting in the plane playing make believe 
needs to get real.

Steve Phillabaum
KR2S, no engine no outboard wings
Shorter, Alabama




-Original Message-
From: Jeff Scott 

All told, I made stops in:
os Alamos, NM
kron, CO
orfolk, NE
ake Elmo, MN, 
enterville, IA
lbia, IA
exico, MO
ackson, TN
reenville, TN
ensley Air Park, TN
reeneville, TN
ountain City, TN
efferson, NC
illsville, VA
reenville, SC
endersonville, NC
reenville, SC
amilton, AL
ope, AR
inton, OK
alhart, TX
os Alamos, NM

KR> Trip Report

[Mark Langford]

Awesome trip report, Jeff!   I'm envious.   We truly are flying personal
time machines.  I've been hoping for a trip out west for years now, but it
looks like it'll be a little further away for me.  

I have an iFly 720 as well, and would be very interested to hear your ADSB
lessons learned.  I'm a bit on the fence about buying the SkyRadar unit, or
waiting a while for the next generation.  I'm sure you could shed some light
on that.  It'll be a few more weeks before I get back in the air again, but
I'm steadily working toward that.

Thanks, 
Mark Langford
m...@n56ml.com 
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KR> Trip Report

[Willie van der Walt]

Thanks for sharing Jeff. I am sure you will need to replace the tyres after 
all those landings. What engine did you fly behind? I also did a 23 hour 
holiday flight last week but that was in my Tecnam 2002JF.


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[Jeff Scott]

Often times builders will post about the lack of KR flying stories.  I just 
completed what seems like an epic journey over the last 11 days, so thought I 
would post a log from the adventure.  The weather kept me from flying to the KR 
Gathering as that was planned to be the front end of a 2 week vacation.  

I finally left Los Alamos, NM on Saturday morning with a new destination of 
Lake Elmo Airport just outside of St Paul, MN.  The first leg took me north 
east out of Los Alamos and up over the mountains and fog near Angel Fire, NM, 
cruising at 11,500'.  Once I was east of the mountains, I found the usual 
eastern slope fog covering eastern Colorado and into Kansas.  I flew northward 
along the eastern slope of the Rockies finally stopping for fuel and a weather 
check in Akron, CO up near the Wyoming border.  The fog extended about 100 
miles to the east, but after that was clear, so I launched again from Akron out 
across Nebraska towards my next fuel stop in Norfolk, NE.  Made a quick turn 
around in Norfolk, then was off to Lake Elmo, where I spent a couple of days 
visiting family.  Total of 7.3 hours logged on the hobbs for the day.

Monday morning I launched from Lake Elmo, MN and flew to Centerville, IA where 
I was able to refuel with Mogas.  I visited more family there, then flew to 
another town nearby to see more family and friends.

After two more days of catching up with family and friends, I launched for 
Jackson, TN with an intermediate fuel stop for more Mogas in Mexico, MO.  3.4 
hours later, I got to spend the day with fellow KR Builder Steve Bray and his 
lovely wife.   The following day I flew over to Greeneville, TN to visit with a 
fellow Cub owner.  We decided to do a bit more flying, and since we were in the 
area of Hemsley Air Park, we were going to just buzz the air park.  Someone 
that sounded a great deal like KR Builder Jack Cooper came on the radio at 
Hensley to give us winds.  When I asked if it was Jack, the man on the radio 
answered yes and invited me to land.  Hensley was an interesting landing.  
Approach down over a hill, drop the plane in and stand on the brakes.  For some 
reason, I had it in my head that Hensley had 4000' of runway.  The reality is 
that it is only 3000', which made my slightly fast landing into a real brake 
heating tire chirping event that used up every bit of the runway.  When I 
taxied over to visit Jack, I found that it wasn't the Jack I knew.  The fellow 
said there are three Jacks at Hensley, so he called Jack Cooper who came over 
to visit for a bit until the hangar owner's wife where we were visiting shooed 
us out.  I was supposed to come back to Hensley and spend an evening with Jack, 
but cancelled the next morning after checking weather.  The weather was good 
for that day, but it looked like if I came back for the night, Jack might end 
up with a house guest for a few days longer than expected.  

I spent the next day visiting numerous airports around the Western VA, Western 
NC and SC areas, ending up in Greenville, SC, where I did get weathered in at 
my brother's place.  

Finally, yesterday afternoon the weather in Greenville and along my flight path 
cleared enough that I could get away.  I left Greenville, SC and made a fuel 
stop in Hamilton, AL before arriving at my next destination in Hope, AR where I 
was to meet up with my wife at her parents place so we could celebrate our 30th 
anniversary.  This morning I left for home making two more fuel stops in 
Hinton, OK and Dalhart, TX before arriving back home in Los Alamos.

I tried to get together to spend some time with Dan Heath and Mark Langford.  I 
also wanted to spend a bit more time with Jack Cooper. The weather fouled those 
plans.  But otherwise I was able to accomplish all of my goals for this trip.  

It's really good for me to get out and travel in the KR.  I am always awe 
struck by how quickly I can move around the country when the weather 
cooperates.  Yesterday afternoon I was sitting on the ground in Greenville, SC 
waiting on weather.  This afternoon, I home in Los Alamos, NM.  That's some 
serious travel capability.

All told, I made stops in:
Los Alamos, NM
Akron, CO
Norfolk, NE
Lake Elmo, MN, 
Centerville, IA
Albia, IA
Mexico, MO
Jackson, TN
Greenville, TN
Hensley Air Park, TN
Greeneville, TN
Mountain City, TN
Jefferson, NC
Hillsville, VA
Greenville, SC
Hendersonville, NC
Greenville, SC
Hamilton, AL
Hope, AR
Hinton, OK
Dalhart, TX
Los Alamos, NM


Facts and figures.  The SkyVector flight planner says I flew  nautical 
miles.  Of course that doesn't include flying patterns in and out of the 
airports or the horsing around and diversions that I did. I would round that up 
to roughly 3600 nautical miles or 4150 statute miles.  The hobbs meter recorded 
30.9 hours.  That includes all the taxiing around and all the time spent on the 
ground when the master switch is on.  For actual flight time, I should have 
used the Tach, but didn't record it before

KR> KR trip

[Eric James Pitts]

Read the bottom of your e-mails, you must remove yourself!!


Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Ind.

"Life should NOT be a  journey to the grave  with the  intention of arriving  
safely in an attractive and well  preserved body, but  rather to skid in 
sideways, chocolate in one hand,  body thoroughly used up, totally worn  out 
and screaming "WOO HOO what a  ride!"
 



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arry, That's awesome. As for me, I'm hoping to join all the KR flyers by the 
nd of the year. Still building every spare moment.
Mike Sylvester 
r2s builder 
irmingham,AL.
Cell no.205-966-3854


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Subject: KR> KR trip



Fun flight today.

I made the 178 mile trip north LOVE MY KR

Larry Flesner


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arry, That's awesome. As for me, I'm hoping to join all the KR flyers by the 
nd of the year. Still building every spare moment.
Mike Sylvester 
r2s builder 
irmingham,AL.
Cell no.205-966-3854


 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:17:34 -0500
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 Fun flight today.

 I made the 178 mile trip north LOVE MY KR

 Larry Flesner


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KR> KR trip

[Seth and Karen Jersild]

Darnit, Larry, I must have just missed you.  My wife and I were at 
Frasca today from about 11:45 to 1:30.  I was hoping my wife could see a 
finished version of what's been taking up all our garage space this past 
year.

On 6/23/2012 4:17 PM, Larry&Sallie Flesner wrote:
>
> Fun flight today.
>
> I made the 178 mile trip north to check out the SAA fly-in at
> Champagin, Illinois.  Clear skies and very little wind at
> altitude.  Just a bit under 1 hour 10 minutes each way.  I got to use
> my recently installed transponder to transition the Champagin
> airspace directly to Frasca Field.  Lots of beautiful aircraft from
> Tiger Moths to Tri-motors and everything in between.  There were even
> people there that could recognize a KR.  Lots of airplanes in the air
> today.  I was picking up radio chatter on my little handheld radio
> from 100 miles out.  Grabbed a hot dog, looked at airplanes, and had
> an uneventful flight home.  LOVE MY KR
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> KR trip

[Mike Sylvester]

Larry, That's awesome. As for me, I'm hoping to join all the KR flyers by the 
end of the year. Still building every spare moment.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854



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> Subject: KR> KR trip
> 
> 
> 
> Fun flight today.
> 
> I made the 178 mile trip north LOVE MY KR
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> KR trip

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

Fun flight today.

I made the 178 mile trip north to check out the SAA fly-in at 
Champagin, Illinois.  Clear skies and very little wind at 
altitude.  Just a bit under 1 hour 10 minutes each way.  I got to use 
my recently installed transponder to transition the Champagin 
airspace directly to Frasca Field.  Lots of beautiful aircraft from 
Tiger Moths to Tri-motors and everything in between.  There were even 
people there that could recognize a KR.  Lots of airplanes in the air 
today.  I was picking up radio chatter on my little handheld radio 
from 100 miles out.  Grabbed a hot dog, looked at airplanes, and had 
an uneventful flight home.  LOVE MY KR

Larry Flesner

KR> Trip to CC #17

[MICHAEL SYLVESTER]

Dan, Great job on the slide show. I am sure that your anxious to see the 
difference in performance with the Corvair.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854





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> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:00:23 -0400
> CC: 
> Subject: KR> Trip to CC #17
> 
> Here is a little slide show of my trip to CC #17, from Columbia, SC down
> along the coast. T
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Trip to CC #17

[Dan Heath]

Here is a little slide show of my trip to CC #17, from Columbia, SC down
along the coast.  There was a lot of building going on and were a lot first
time engine runs, ending with, the one that I think is the best one of all,
mine.  It was built by Roy Szarafinski, the master.



It takes just a little while to buffer up on DSL.



http://krbuilder.org/CC17/Videos/TripToCC17.wmv



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

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the pics 

See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39

KR> Trip notes

[Larry H.]

I think I heard at the banquet Steve Glover say that a gentleman named Steve 
Starwell flew in from San Diego, California

 so someone with a gps handy can see how many miles it is in a straight line 
from SanDiego, CA to Mt Vernon, IL
Larry H.



From: Willie van der Walt 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:49:56 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Trip notes

What was the distance? ..Just so that those us that could not go can 
share

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To: "'KRnet'" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:38 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Trip notes


Mike,
Just a note to let you know that at the banquet on Saturday night, you won
the award for the longest distance flown to the Gathering. Contact Larry
Flesner to claim your prize!!!

Art Bruce
Bainbridge, GA

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To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Trip notes

After leaving MVN for Naples, Fl on Saturday
Mike - KSEE



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KR> Trip notes

[Willie van der Walt]

What was the distance? ..Just so that those us that could not go can 
share

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Subject: RE: KR> Trip notes


Mike,
Just a note to let you know that at the banquet on Saturday night, you won
the award for the longest distance flown to the Gathering. Contact Larry
Flesner to claim your prize!!!

Art Bruce
Bainbridge, GA

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After leaving MVN for Naples, Fl on Saturday
Mike - KSEE



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KR> Trip notes

[Art Bruce]

Mike, 
Just a note to let you know that at the banquet on Saturday night, you won
the award for the longest distance flown to the Gathering. Contact Larry
Flesner to claim your prize!!!

Art Bruce
Bainbridge, GA

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After leaving MVN for Naples, Fl on Saturday 
Mike - KSEE

KR> Trip notes

[laser...@juno.com]

After leaving MVN for Naples, Fl on Saturday, I had an exhaust valve spring 
break (#4) and had to set it down in Venice, Fl.  It was dark by then and the 
next day was Sunday so didn't get anything done until Monday morning, chasing 
tools & parts.  Finished the job this morning (Tuesday) and am now in Naples 
for the night.  Off to Jacksonville in the morning.  
Flying through that mess to the south leaving MVN, it looks like I've really 
done some damage to my Prince.  It was supposed to have leading edge protection 
but if it did, it sure didn't work.  Rain was intermittent so I don't know why 
the outside leading edges are so trashed now. It will need to be sent back to 
Lonnie to be refinished once I get home.

I learned something interesting about oil, a recent subject on the forum.  (I 
haven't read any of the posts in a week and probably won't until I get back to 
SD).  What I learned is that synthetic does not suspend lead.  When travelling, 
like now, I'm using all avgas and normal oil is a lot better for the valves, 
guides & seats than synthetc (when using avgas).  So no more synthetic oil for 
me  One of the mechanics I was talking to in Venice (Southwest Avionics) gave 
me this info - he was involved with Katana Rotaxs' when they first came out and 
they had huge valve problems using avgas with synthetic oils..  It's funny I 
never came across this information until now, but Steve agrees his is true.  
Mike - KSEE


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KR> Trip to Fargo?

[william Clapp]

Here are some tenative plans.  If thigs work out I hope to be flying north to 
Fargo for the Mini Corvair college the begins on the 25th of May.  I  should 
leave out of here on the 21st and visit some Peitenpol guys in Atlanta, then 
the 26 to Tennessee area, then Casey IL to work on Cleone Markwell's 601 - hope 
to get it flying - then onto Fargo.  On the way back I will be stopping in 
Pittsburg Kansas to help a guy get KR current.  Then a visit to my folks in 
Mountain View Missouri and then home by the 30th.  If I can stop by or you need 
a quick inspection or a KR ride ( for those who are about ready and will fit in 
mine) go ahead and ask.   I should have some corvair manuals and maybe some 
cool products with me.  This is a working trip for me - not pro bono - but I do 
want to stop and see you guys that I can along the way.   As I firm up plans 
and if the weather cooperates Ill let you know more.
I went out flying on Thursday for about and hour or so - about the only 
smoke free day weve had here in a while.  Please pray for rain in our area.  It 
is dangerous and people have dies here due to the fires and smoke.
  Bill Clapp


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KR> Trip and check a project

[Joseph H. Horton]

Guys, 
I can mix this up a little . Yesterday I took a little trip to
central Pa. to meet KR builder Randy Smyre. It was a short 40 min flight
to SEG in some of the most beautiful weather of the year. There was no
wind aloft as the GPS indicated 173 mph ground speed at both 4500 and
5500 ft 2 hours apart. And yes the engine is still running near perfect.
I meet Randy at the airport and he spent about a half hour
crawling and walking around 357CJ taking in everything that he could. He
sat in the plane to get a feel for it (I was sorry that I was not
comfortable to offer a ride yet) After that we hoped in his car and made
the 20 min drive to his house where he has what I feel is a very near
complete KR2S that he has built from scratch. The workmanship looks good
and with some encouragement from the group I bet he could be ready in a
year. Engine is his last major task to really get into. But he has much
of the stuff on hand to get into that also. He has widened the fuselage
at the shoulders and is working on installing a Todd's canopy. He has
made split flaps and installed wing tanks like Bill Clapp's. It is a tail
dragger with Tracy O'Brian wheels and brakes. Besides engine and cowl the
biggest thing that he has to tackle is all that wonderful sanding. (he he
heee! good luck)
Randy is planning on attending the gathering again this year so
stoke him up for the race to the finish line. 
When I was about ready to leave SEG Randy was talking to a Gruman pilot
that had just stopped in. He said my KR looks fast just sitting there.
Naw - I didn't just swell up with pride as I went on to say yep 173 true.
(he said wow best I can get out of his is 125 flat out) 
I'd love to visit some other guys in the area actually anyone
with in 200 miles of Allentown Pa. I could do in a morning trip. Send me
a e-mail off the list and I'll get together with you
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> Trip - vacation - magazine

[ifly...@aol.com]

And not in that orderFirst -  Corvair college was a blast.  I  had a lot 
of fun meeting friends and new builders.  99% came with good  attitudes and a 
willingness to learn and help each other and that is always  encouraging.  To 
those who are of the 1% - please learn to be less  selfish.   WW works his 
tail off for this college and does more than  10 of use could do - plus he 
keeps 
OUR safety in mine.  You cant find  anybody more willing to help the 
experimental folk that also keeps his mind on  safety and reliability, and does 
the 
college for FREE!.  
It was nice that to see Dan, Mark, Steve, Chuck,  and Mr. Greene show up 
in their Corvaircraft.  The pinical of my time their  was the Sat evening 
flying with Dan and Gus.  We tore up the skies pretty  good but Dan was "over 
the 
top".   His experience allows him to do  more than I am comfortable with as of 
yet.  - Good thing those who were  upset about my flyby at Mark Jones' place 
weren't there.  We simply had  FUN!  YYHHAAA!

Second - when I got home I found I had recieved a  complementary issue of 
SPORTMAN PILOT magazine.  The editor/owner of this  magazine is Jack Cox who 
was the editor for EAA Sport Aviation for many  years.  I had met him at Sun N 
Fun 04 but did not know who he was.   Inside the magazine was a very nice 
three page spread on N41768.   It  was a humbling experience but a thrill at 
the 
same time to see your plane in a  magazine.  I think Ill get a couple more 
copies to save.  Thank you  Jack.

Third - Elaine and I left out of Valdosta and flew  to Edgewater FL and 
met up with Glenda McElwee for a trip out to the Bahamas for  the weekend.  
Glenda had reserved a motel and had invited us with.  We  flew a rented 172 out 
to the Bahamas and had a real fun time. This trip was more  a learning 
experience for me than anything else.  Now that I know the  paperwork and 
flight 
procedures I will be able to fly there more in the future  with the KR.  I do 
have 
to equip the KR a little better before I can so the  flight but it will be a 
comfortable trip to make.  Elaine had a lot of fun  out there as well.  After 
spending the week at the Corvair College I owed  her a little "daddy time" and 
I believe it was time well spend.  Thank you  Glenda for the experience and 
what I learned.  
Dont worry too much Mark L...Not having flown a  172 since 1993 I 
made two misserable landings  and one fair landing - even  Elaine complained 
about them.  I wasnt ready to have time to cook an  omelete on final

300 hours and counting...
Bill Clapp

KR> recent KR trip

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

The guys on CorvAircraft enjoyed this, so maybe y'all will too.  I flew down to 
my father's farm last weekend.  Details are at 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/firstfarmtrip/ .  I actually hollered 
"YEHA!" while rolling out.  Down on the farm seemed like the 
perfect place!

I'll be in traveling on business for the next three weeks, so you won't be 
hearing much in the way of progress reports from me.  I'm trying to keep it 
light, since there are four of us traveling in one car (and an internet 
connection costs a fortune in European hotels), so I'm not carrying the laptop. 
 See y'all later...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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