KR>Canopy and turtledeck
I was able to get the SAE 95% Oscar template in a KR with "stock" canopy height (17.875 inches above the top longeron)and still have 1 inch of clearance to the belly skin. Oscar is a 95% male legs & upper torso. --- Brian Kraut <eng...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I would be too afraid to have someone put a bubble > level on my head and find out how unlevel I really > am! > > ---Original Message--- > From: larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > Sent: 08/13/03 10:05 AM > To: KR builders and pilots <kr...@mylist.net> > Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck > > Have someone > measure your body using a bubble level placed on > your head and > measure to the top of the seat back or longerons for > a reference. > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html = Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cab...@yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
Ross indicated that he test-fitted his cockpit and canopy wearing a bike helmet. The KRs I've sat in (and I'm 5'-10") were snug to the top of my head just with a headset on. With a helmet- no way. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
Take off that cowbay hat Oscar! Dave McKelvey, Grapevine, TX dav...@witty.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:02 AM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck Ross indicated that he test-fitted his cockpit and canopy wearing a bike helmet. The KRs I've sat in (and I'm 5'-10") were snug to the top of my head just with a headset on. With a helmet- no way. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
>Ross indicated that he test-fitted his cockpit and canopy wearing a bike >helmet. The KRs I've sat in (and I'm 5'-10") were snug to the top of my >head just with a headset on. With a helmet- no way. >Oscar Zuniga + The KR design lends itself well to modification and there is no reason to build an airplane (KR) that you are not comfortable in or that does not fit the builder. As someone posted eariler (Dan, I believe), build your seat assembly before starting on the turtledeck/canopy/windshield. Have someone measure your body using a bubble level placed on your head and measure to the top of the seat back or longerons for a reference. I used foam and formed plywood bows to build my canopy/gullwing door/turtledeck to the height I knew would work for me. I extended the gullwing door area approx 7.5 inches vertically above the longerons before arcing over to the top at a height I knew would give me the headroom I wanted. I used a 32 gallon trash can lid to give me the arc from side to top and it worked out very well. There are some pictures on Mark Langford's web site if you care to check out the results. As always, your results may vary. Larry ( trying to get the grin off my face while I taxi ) Flesner
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
If I had some photos of My KR online I could direct folks to them.. My canopy is displaced up slightly to allow for extra head clearance. And sweeps down towards the turtledeck. It reminded me of some modern aircraft when I did it, but I can't recall what aircraft or helicopter I modeled it after. Who knows what this will do to in-flight drag, but I've got a reasonable amount of headroom. I'm working on getting my N541RY.com domain back. (I let it expire and someone bought it due to all the KR-net traffic... looks like I should sell stuff on it). I have secured some other N541RY domains last night (n541ry.us). Hopefully I will have my domain up by next week. - Original Message - From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildr...@hotmail.com> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:01:48 -0500 To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck > Ross indicated that he test-fitted his cockpit and canopy wearing a bike > helmet. The KRs I've sat in (and I'm 5'-10") were snug to the top of my > head just with a headset on. With a helmet- no way. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
I would be too afraid to have someone put a bubble level on my head and find out how unlevel I really am! ---Original Message--- From: larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> Sent: 08/13/03 10:05 AM To: KR builders and pilots <kr...@mylist.net> Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck Have someone measure your body using a bubble level placed on your head and measure to the top of the seat back or longerons for a reference.
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
I am getting ready to build form for my turtledeck but am interested is knowing a couple things. First. I am 5' 8" tall. How high is the average turtledeck for someone my heigth? How to test. I have a Todd's Canopy - very flexible and oversized so trimming is no problem. - a liitle rounder than a dragonfly. Second - Can I move the seat support crossmember cack a couple inches to provide 1) more headroom and 2) a more comfy seat that I can adjust with removable back cushions or adjustable back?
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
At 5'8" I don't think you need to move back any. You should have plenty of headroom and probably will need to have both seat and back cushions in a standard 2S. Just my thoughts. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL ebloc...@earthlink.net - Original Message - From: "William Clapp" <clapps...@cybersouth.com> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck I am getting ready to build form for my turtledeck but am interested is knowing a couple things. First. I am 5' 8" tall. How high is the average turtledeck for someone my heigth? How to test. I have a Todd's Canopy - very flexible and oversized so trimming is no problem. - a liitle rounder than a dragonfly. Second - Can I move the seat support crossmember cack a couple inches to provide 1) more headroom and 2) a more comfy seat that I can adjust with removable back cushions or adjustable back? ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
I'm 6', but tall in the torso. I am forwarding a reply that might answer your questions about adjusting things. Richard William Clapp wrote: > I am getting ready to build form for my turtledeck but am interested is > knowing a couple things. > First. I am 5' 8" tall. How high is the average turtledeck for someone my > heigth? How to test. I have a Todd's Canopy - very flexible and oversized > so trimming is no problem. - a liitle rounder than a dragonfly. > > Second - Can I move the seat support crossmember cack a couple inches to > provide 1) more headroom and 2) a more comfy seat that I can adjust with > removable back cushions or adjustable back? > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Canopy and turtledeck
RE: How high is the average turtledeck for someone my heigth? How to test. Are you building a 2 or a 2S? I am 5' 8.5" tall and I had a serious head room problem with my first KR. Are you using a pre-molded Turtle Deck? You should decide what kind of seats you want to build and do that first. Then sit in it and have someone take some measurements with your hat and headset on, just as you will fly it. Don't forget to simulate a seat cushion and seat back cushion if you don't have them. Once you decide how high the turtle deck needs to be, build it to that height. Don't worry about the canopy untill after you get the Turtle deck unless you are going to use the bubble as is, then you may need to compromise. Our site has a lot of information on doing this for a KR2. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
KR>Canopy and turtledeck Height
>From the book "Test Flying Your Homebuilt" by Vaughn Askew[sp]. He suggests putting your parachute and helmet on and sitting in a mock up of the cockpit. What I did was use cardboard to cut bulkhead templates and wear a bike helmet and sit on a cushon. Then I marked where the canopy top was, and worked from there. >From cardboard, I made panelboard bulkheads, and eventually one or two plywood bulkheads. I also sat in the cockput and taped cardboard to the firewall to simulate a cowling, and figured out how high I wanted my instrument panel. The aft bulkheads were clamped in place with "C" clamps and I foamed up my entire aft deck until I liked what I had... then I glassed it. Thats how I did it... your mileage may vary. -- Ross (N541RY -- not yet flying) - Original Message - From: "William Clapp" <clapps...@cybersouth.com> List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:06:38 -0400 To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net> Subject: KR>Canopy and turtledeck > I am getting ready to build form for my turtledeck but am interested is > knowing a couple things. > First. I am 5' 8" tall. How high is the average turtledeck for someone my > heigth? How to test. I have a Todd's Canopy - very flexible and oversized > so trimming is no problem. - a liitle rounder than a dragonfly. > > Second - Can I move the seat support crossmember cack a couple inches to > provide 1) more headroom and 2) a more comfy seat that I can adjust with > removable back cushions or adjustable back? > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze
