KR>Sanding and lovin it
Thanks for all the info guys, but I get the impression that I've led you astray about the finish on my bird, It was not about pinholes as much as it was about wavyness of the layups, like when you look down the beam of the wings there is some wavy countoures to it, they were all hand layed up panels and I will never be able to match the finish of a vaccuum bag part. And I have used that bondo spot puddy for years, and it does work great,but needs to be primed over. I have saved about 1/2 gal of primer for this. Thanks again guys. Now please when you see her at a fly in or airshow don't judge her too harsly on the finish,but be glad that there is another added to the flying ranks. Tim KR2 N7038V - Original Message - From: "Bob Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > Tim, > You can get a perfect finish with very little trouble and NO pin holes. > You are now at the stage where you need to do the following. Just get a tube > of bondo (it comes like a tube of tooth paste). Use your index finger and > go over the entire aircraft and wipe a finger of Bondo on each and every > hole you find. Keep the tube when you are finished to use for minor repairs > later. When you are finshed with this first step your aircraft will look > like it has the measles. Then sand with a fine grit paper and paint. Years > ago when I built a KR-2, this is what I did and the aircraft won first prize > in the composit division, Chino airport, at the 1977 Fly-in and air show, > Chino, California. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rsto...@hot.rr.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:16 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > > Gee Guys, > > You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish. > > After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I > will > > never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command decision > > to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I > > want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt. > with > > fillers. > > I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs. empty(before > > finish paint). > > Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data plate > > from raw stock? > > Or do you have to use an approved plate? > > Thanks > > TIM > > KR2 N7038V > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM > > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > > > > Joe, > > > > My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real > priming > > and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that you > > will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the real > > work begins. > > > > The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, > if > > you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop > sanding, > > look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again. > > > > Ain't it fun? > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Sanding and lovin it
For waviness and depressions, use Superfil by Poly-Fiber. Then sand using a straight sanding board. This can be purchased from Spruce. Then prime. Ken Jones - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:02 AM Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > Thanks for all the info guys, but I get the impression that I've led you > astray about the finish on my bird, It was not about pinholes as much as it > was about wavyness of the layups, like when you look down the beam of the > wings there is some wavy countoures to it, they were all hand layed up > panels and I will never be able to match the finish of a vaccuum bag part. > And I have used that bondo spot puddy for years, and it does work > great,but needs to be primed over. I have saved about 1/2 gal of primer for > this. > Thanks again guys. > Now please when you see her at a fly in or airshow don't judge her too > harsly on the finish,but be glad that there is another added to the flying > ranks. > Tim > KR2 N7038V > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > > Tim, > > You can get a perfect finish with very little trouble and NO pin > holes. > > You are now at the stage where you need to do the following. Just get a > tube > > of bondo (it comes like a tube of tooth paste). Use your index finger and > > go over the entire aircraft and wipe a finger of Bondo on each and every > > hole you find. Keep the tube when you are finished to use for minor > repairs > > later. When you are finshed with this first step your aircraft will look > > like it has the measles. Then sand with a fine grit paper and paint. > Years > > ago when I built a KR-2, this is what I did and the aircraft won first > prize > > in the composit division, Chino airport, at the 1977 Fly-in and air show, > > Chino, California. > > > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > > rsto...@hot.rr.com > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net> > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:16 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > > > > > Gee Guys, > > > You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish. > > > After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I > > will > > > never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command > decision > > > to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I > > > want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt. > > with > > > fillers. > > > I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs. > empty(before > > > finish paint). > > > Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data > plate > > > from raw stock? > > > Or do you have to use an approved plate? > > > Thanks > > > TIM > > > KR2 N7038V > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > > > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM > > > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real > > priming > > > and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that > you > > > will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the > real > > > work begins. > > > > > > The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, > > if > > > you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop > > sanding, > > > look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again. > > > > > > Ain't it fun? > > > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Well, I finally had the opportunity to take the bird outside on this beautiful 70 degree day and spend about 3.5 hours wet sanding the PPG primer It was getting dark, so I put her back inside the factory for the night and I was admiring what had been done so far. I was thinking how enjoyable those 3.5 hours had been... AND THEN I REALIZED HOW SICK I REALLY AM. Oh well, it's Friday. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Dan, It is an unusual situation when drudgery becomes enjoyable. Never the less, enjoy.as much as you can. Ray Goree
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Dan..I do not know much about com function..I would like to have this note put on the list'' I have a Gor 195 with ant..charge unit..plug for cockpit hookup..long life battery..owners manual..used very little..paid 900 take 250..bhai...@hcnews.com 2 > > > > I was thinking how enjoyable those 3.5 hours had been... AND THEN I REALIZED > HOW SICK I REALLY AM. > > Oh well, it's Friday. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Bob, if that's a Garmin 195, I'll take it! 256-851-9902 Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford - Original Message - From: "Bob" <bhai...@hcnews.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:11 PM Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > Dan..I do not know much about com function..I would like to have this > note put on the list'' I have a Gor 195 with ant..charge unit..plug for > cockpit hookup..long life battery..owners manual..used very little..paid > 900 take 250..bhai...@hcnews.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > I was thinking how enjoyable those 3.5 hours had been... AND THEN I REALIZED > > HOW SICK I REALLY AM. > > > > Oh well, it's Friday. > > > > > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >
KR>Sanding and lovin it
> Well, I finally had the opportunity to take the bird outside on this > beautiful 70 degree day and spend about 3.5 hours wet sanding the > PPG primer > It was getting dark, so I put her back inside the factory for the > night and > I was admiring what had been done so far. > > I was thinking how enjoyable those 3.5 hours had been... AND THEN I > REALIZED > HOW SICK I REALLY AM. > > Oh well, it's Friday. > > Dan, I painted my wings and alirons with smooth prime last weekend and all week have been finish sanding to prep for the finial primer. This morning I got curious about how much I was sanding off. Sooo I swept up the floor and put it back in the can that I measured and mixed the smooth prime in. I used just under 1/2 gallon of smooth prime. From one wing only I have about 20 oz. liquid equivilant of dust in the can. That does not include the layer that is still all over the shop. I was thinking about asking Jim F. for a CD af the sanding song to play over and over while I sand. I'm ready to say good enough. ;-) Joe Horton Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Joe, My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real priming and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that you will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the real work begins. The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, if you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop sanding, look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again. Ain't it fun? See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Gee Guys, You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish. After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I will never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command decision to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt. with fillers. I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs. empty(before finish paint). Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data plate from raw stock? Or do you have to use an approved plate? Thanks TIM KR2 N7038V - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it Joe, My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real priming and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that you will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the real work begins. The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, if you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop sanding, look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again. Ain't it fun? See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Sanding and lovin it
I am convinced that most of us will never see a perfect finish, let alone create one. I just try to get out all the pin holes and make what finish there is , smooth, so the paint will look as good as possible. If it were perfect, I would be afraid to fly it. I made my data plate on the Little Beast, on the inspection plate cover that went over the inspection hole under the horiz stab. Don't know if that is OK but I just think you have to provide the information in a place visible on the exterior of the plane. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC da...@kr-builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
KR>Sanding and lovin it
Tim, You can get a perfect finish with very little trouble and NO pin holes. You are now at the stage where you need to do the following. Just get a tube of bondo (it comes like a tube of tooth paste). Use your index finger and go over the entire aircraft and wipe a finger of Bondo on each and every hole you find. Keep the tube when you are finished to use for minor repairs later. When you are finshed with this first step your aircraft will look like it has the measles. Then sand with a fine grit paper and paint. Years ago when I built a KR-2, this is what I did and the aircraft won first prize in the composit division, Chino airport, at the 1977 Fly-in and air show, Chino, California. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rsto...@hot.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:16 PM Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > Gee Guys, > You are making ME worry about the quality of my finish. > After two coats of smooth prime,and three of u2k, I have decided that I will > never reach even close to a perfect finish, So I made the command decision > to declare it done, and ready for paint. Small imperfections be damed. I > want to fly this thing this spring and I don't want to add any more wt. with > fillers. > I have a rare KR2 in the respect that it only weighs 535lbs. empty(before > finish paint). > Now for a new one to chew on, is it permisable to make your own Data plate > from raw stock? > Or do you have to use an approved plate? > Thanks > TIM > KR2 N7038V > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: KR>Sanding and lovin it > > > Joe, > > My experience has been, that after the Smooth Prime, comes the real priming > and sanding. At least then, you can wet sand it. There is no way that you > will have all the pin holes out of it after smooth prime, so now the real > work begins. > > The nice thing about having that layer of Smooth Prime on there is that, if > you put on a grey primer, you quickly know when it is time to stop sanding, > look for pin holes, fill them, prime, and start sanding all over again. > > Ain't it fun? > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > da...@kr-builder.org > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
