KR> tail wheel

[Bill Starrs]

I would like to replace my tail wheel for my KR 1 any suggestions would be 
greatly appreciated . billsta...@peoplepc.com

KR> Tail Wheel

[Dan Heath]

For you guys who have converted to the tri-gear from a conventional, do you
still have the original tail wheel and does it need a new home?



da...@alltel.net 

Thanks,

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is over.

Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Tail Wheel

[Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff]

Dan,
I have a new one around somewhere. I'll try to locate the box I put it in 
and get back to you.

 Bud Midkiff
 Lynnwood, WA
 email: c.midk...@verizon.net
 my webpage:  http://mysite.verizon.net/res18ums/index.html



- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:50 AM
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel


> For you guys who have converted to the tri-gear from a conventional, do 
> you
> still have the original tail wheel and does it need a new home?

KR> Tail Wheel

[Lynn]

I ordered mine from the Dragonfly folks  Lynn  N37LH

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KR> Tail Wheel

[Mark Jones]

I just did a Google search on Mountain board wheels and the possibilities for 
you tail draggers are endless in pneumatic. Beautiful anodized aluminum wheels 
as well. Maybe this will help...

Mountain board wheel images:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mountain+board+wheels&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=468cUpZMx9rIAaSKgegH&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=643


Mountain board wheels:
http://shop.mbs.com/accessories-10/mountainboard-wheels.html

Tires, tubes, bearings, wheels:
http://shop.mbs.com/accessories-10.html




Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> Tail Wheel

[Craig Williams]

5,6,7,8" wheels for Scooters, power chairs, wheel chairs etc.? 
http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/caster-wheel-power-chair.html





 From: Mark Jones 
To: KR Mail  
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel


I just did a Google search on Mountain board wheels and the possibilities for 
you tail draggers are endless in pneumatic. Beautiful anodized aluminum wheels 
as well. Maybe this will help...

Mountain board wheel images:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mountain+board+wheels&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=468cUpZMx9rIAaSKgegH&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=643


Mountain board wheels:
http://shop.mbs.com/accessories-10/mountainboard-wheels.html

Tires, tubes, bearings, wheels:
http://shop.mbs.com/accessories-10.html




Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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[Larry Flesner]

Here is the photo of the 6 inch pneumatic tailwheel that replaced the 
rumbling little 4 inch little solid wheel.  No more rumble.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8763.JPG

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail Wheel

[Ken Hurley]

If anyone has an extra tail wheel assembly they want to sell i'm
interested. If you can bring it to the annual fly-in I'll settle up with
you there. Call or text 417-343-6888, kenhurley50 at gmail.com.

Picture is too big and exceeds email capacity.



Thanks

Ken Hurley
kenhurley50 at gmail.com
417-343-6888

KR>Tail Wheel

[Justin]

Ideally everyone would like a soft tailwheel. I found just that at the compton 
airshow/airfair yesterday. A scooter called the "Big Foot" has small air tires 
witch would work great as a tailwheel. This is not the big foot go-ped.Im 
working on gettign a phone # or website right now.
Justin
N116JW
www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home

KR>Tail Wheel

[larry flesner]

 A scooter called the "Big Foot" has small air tires witch would work great
as a tailwheel. .
>Justin
=

What is the diameter of the tire?  I had a lead on a 6 inch pneumatic
tire but now they claim it is not available.  Go figure.  I bought
a wheel to mount it on so there goes $20 down the drain.

Larry Flesner

KR>Tail Wheel

[Larry A Capps]

Most 1/4 scale RC models have very nice 6 - 8 inch rubber tires (main gear);
and with a little aluminum work, could have an expectable rim for the KR
Tail Wheel assembly.

Larry A Capps
Naperville, IL



-Original Message-
I had a lead on a 6 inch pneumatic
tire but now they claim it is not available.

KR>tail wheel

[larry flesner]

>From the way Larry has been progressing on his, I thought that he was an old
>time tailwheel pilot that had been stuck in a training wheel plane for a
>long time. 
>Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
+++=

With my limited exposure to the "training wheel" I'm convinced that
I'd better consider it a permanant "training wheel".  To do otherwise
would be like turning your back on the "junkyard dog" !

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail Wheel

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

  This is primarily for  John(?) Bouyea. The E-mail address I have for him 
did not work.
   I have been looking at the bouyea website and the pictures of your 
tailwheel assy.
It seems to raise the aft end by about 12 inches. I plan to do the same on my 
KR2S. I would 
like to know if this gives a good view over the instrument panel and are there 
any adverse 
effects on the amount of weight on the tail wheel?
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Tail Wheel

[The Weber's]

I my opinion if you raise the tail that much you will not be able to get as
much angle of attack on takeoff and will have to go faster to takeoff.
   Joe Weber
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:35 PM
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel


>   This is primarily for  John(?) Bouyea. The E-mail address I have for
him did not work.
>I have been looking at the bouyea website and the pictures of your
tailwheel assy.
> It seems to raise the aft end by about 12 inches. I plan to do the same on
my KR2S. I would
> like to know if this gives a good view over the instrument panel and are
there any adverse
> effects on the amount of weight on the tail wheel?
> Ray Goree
> 817-795-4779
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[ifly...@aol.com]

Takeoff speeds should remain the same since you would be lifting the tail  
off the runway and then accelerating to takeoff speeds.  This of course is  for 
a normal takeoff.  For a shortfeild takeoff you would keep the tail on  the 
ground until the plane lifts off and the tailwheel could hinder short feild  
takeoff performance - not that the KR uses that much runway.  It is the  
landing 
distance that would suffer more.  I could perform better and slower  three 
point landings if my tailwheel were closer to the rudder but it is already  on 
about 6 inches away and I dont want to damage to rudder on a hard  landing.  
Bill

KR> Tail Wheel

[Orma]

For a shortfield takeoff you would keep the tail on  the
ground until the plane lifts off

Hello Net.

On a hard surface you are correct, but on sod, especially wet or some what
long, the tail wheel becomes that much more drag, and needs to be lifted off
to help acceleration.

Orma
Southfield, MI
N110LR celebrating 20 years
Flying, flying and more flying
http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/

KR> Tail Wheel

[Stan Campbell]

Wrong, for a shortfield t/o tail up for most airspeed.
--- Orma  wrote:

> For a shortfield takeoff you would keep the tail on 
> the
> ground until the plane lifts off
> 
> Hello Net.
> 
> On a hard surface you are correct, but on sod,
> especially wet or some what
> long, the tail wheel becomes that much more drag,
> and needs to be lifted off
> to help acceleration.
> 
> Orma
> Southfield, MI
> N110LR celebrating 20 years
> Flying, flying and more flying
> http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/
> 
> 
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KR> Tail Wheel

[John Bouyea]

Hi Ray.

The tail wheel setup didn't work for me, though there wasn't anything wrong
with it.  I don't think the filler block was 12" off the ground, but it was
higher than many of the tail draggers I saw at the Gathering this fall.  I
sold the tail wheel setup to Ed Blocher in Florida.  I seem to remember he
reworked it somehow.



I fly off 2000 feet of grass with children and dogs on the runway.  Over the
nose taxi visibility is as important to me as is the propeller.  It seemed
to taxi well and I lifted the tail in fast taxi a few times before I
converted to Diehl trigear.



John Bouyea

KR2 - hanging the engine accessories

KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters

john_0...@bouyea.net

www.bouyea.net



I have been looking at the Bouyea website and the pictures of your tail
wheel assy. It seems to raise the aft end by about 12 inches. I plan to do
the same on my KR2S. I would like to know if this gives a good view over the
instrument panel and are there any adverse effects on the amount of weight
on the tail wheel?

Ray Goree

817-795-4779

KR> Tail Wheel

[Mark Jones]

Attention Taildraggers !!! If you want a 5" pneumatic tire and tube hub, I 
will get them for you and ship them to you at exact store cost plus exact UPS 
shipping cost to you. I will require payment up front before I ship the set up 
to you and if you pay by PayPal, an additional 4% will be added to the cost to 
cover the PayPal fees. I will not make a penny doing this, as a matter of fact 
it will cost me some in gas and time ad shipping materials. But hey, I love the 
KR and the KR family and I will do anything I can to help out. If any profit 
were to be made from this in terms of a little extra with your payment, it will 
be deposited in the Prop Bank fund. 

If you want this set up, e-mail me direct at flyk...@wi.rr.com with your 
address and I will get back to you with your total cost including UPS shipping 
charges.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

KR> Tail Wheel

[larry flesner]

Mark,

I got "burnt" on looking for a pnuematic tire last year.  I found one on
a wheelchair and after buying the wheel and bearings (which turned 
out to be the wrong size) they couldn't get me the tire.

What's the actual diameter of the tire?
What's the axle size?
What's the width of the wheel at the axle?

I have enough worthless items laying around that I don't need to
add to the stack.

I do appreciate you willingness to help us taildraggers out on this.

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail Wheel

[Mark Jones]

I have two guys that want these so today at lunch, I will go and purchase
one set, I will weigh them on my digital scale here at work, measure them
and take a digital photo of them. I will post the results and put a link to
the photo on the KR Net. 

Mark Jones
Mueller Sales Corporation
Ph: 262-781-5310
Fax:262-781-4130
E-mail: mjo...@muellersales.com
Web: www.muellersales.com


-Original Message-
From: larry flesner [mailto:fles...@midwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:06 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel



Mark,

I got "burnt" on looking for a pnuematic tire last year.  I found one on
a wheelchair and after buying the wheel and bearings (which turned 
out to be the wrong size) they couldn't get me the tire.

What's the actual diameter of the tire?
What's the axle size?
What's the width of the wheel at the axle?

I have enough worthless items laying around that I don't need to
add to the stack.

I do appreciate you willingness to help us taildraggers out on this.

Larry Flesner



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[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

   Brian,
In the archives, an E-mail of yours, mentioned Aviation Products for a tail 
wheel. I tried 
to contact them and was told they had gone out of business. Do you have any 
info 
on this?  Do you like your Matco unit? I am building a KR2S.
 Ray 
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
Ray Goree
817-795-4779

KR> Tail wheel

[Brian Kraut]

It would be a shame if they were out of business.  Maybe it is not the same
company.  The sticker on my Midget Mustang wheel says they are in Ojai, CA,
phone 805-646-6042.  I would not be surprised if that area code has changed
since the wheel has been there for a while.

I checked Aircraft spruce and they are at this link.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/lg/tailwheels.html.  They are the ones
listed as the homebuilder's special wheels and all but one style is in
stock.  You can also get the ones for the 5/8" round spring and the spring
from www.mustangaeronautics.com although the flat springs would be better
suited to a KR.

I do like the Matco alot, but it is just a little heavier.  I still have the
Matco from my last KR and I will be using it on the 2S with a wheelchair
inflatable tire and a light weight aluminum wheel that I will make on my
lathe.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:44 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Tail wheel


   Brian,
In the archives, an E-mail of yours, mentioned Aviation Products for a tail
wheel. I tried
to contact them and was told they had gone out of business. Do you have any
info
on this?  Do you like your Matco unit? I am building a KR2S.
 Ray
raybeth...@sbcglobal.net
Ray Goree
817-795-4779
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[larry severson]

At 11:56 PM 11/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>It would be a shame if they were out of business.  Maybe it is not the same
>company.  The sticker on my Midget Mustang wheel says they are in Ojai, CA,
>phone 805-646-6042.  I would not be surprised if that area code has changed
>since the wheel has been there for a while.

I talked to them and received a tailspring from them in the last 3 weeks at 
the above phone number.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com 

KR> Tail wheel

[raybeth...@sbcglobal.net]

Thanks, Larry
   Ray goree
- Original Message - 
From: "larry severson" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Tail wheel


> At 11:56 PM 11/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>It would be a shame if they were out of business.  Maybe it is not the 
>>same
>>company.  The sticker on my Midget Mustang wheel says they are in Ojai, 
>>CA,
>>phone 805-646-6042.  I would not be surprised if that area code has 
>>changed
>>since the wheel has been there for a while.
>

KR> tail wheel

[Mark Wegmet via KRnet]

To those of you that fly (actually takeoff, land, and taxi) with a tail
wheel set up, if you built one again from scratch, how would you do it and
which set up (brand/type) would you use?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Mark W.
N952MW (res) have almost all the parts!



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[Flesner]

I realize that everyone has a budget but if you can swing it to go with 
an Aviation Products unit and you won't regret it.  They have the light 
weight single fork with the 4" wheel and a heavier single fork with a 6" 
wheel.  Matco has a 6" unit that now comes with the pneumatic tire and 
that's what I started with (solid 6" tire) but switched to the Aviation 
Products to eliminate about 2 pounds at the most rearward point of the 
aircraft.  That's about 288 moment/pounds off the W&B chart.  I later 
modified the unit to accommodate the 6" Matco wheel / tire.


My unit steers through 30 degrees then goes full swivel.  Lock one brake 
at the hangar and it does a 90 degree turn without the locked wheel 
moving an inch.  Nice..


Larry Flesner


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KR> Tail Wheel Training

[Bavo]

Hi All,

Does anyone know of a flying school in Victoria (Australia) that does tail
wheel training?
I've tried everywhere I can think of without success.

Thanks,
John.

-- 
John Bavington
Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
http://www.saaa.com/

http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington

KR> Tail Wheel Training

[Phil Matheson]

John
Come up to Sunny Tocumwal.
John William of Willams Aviation will sort you out.Call him on 
0427742523
0358742523

A bed available at my place anytime.

Phil Matheson
VH-PKR
Australia
KR Web Page
www.philskr2.50megs.com 

KR> Tail Wheel Training

[kr2]

Try RA-Aus for ultralight training, don't laugh as that is what I did.

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns Australia

 Bavo  wrote: 
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know of a flying school in Victoria (Australia) that does tail
> wheel training?
> I've tried everywhere I can think of without success.
> 
> Thanks,
> John.
> 
> -- 
> John Bavington
> Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
> P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
> http://www.saaa.com/
> 
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Phillip Matheson]

HI guys.

What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring for my 
KR2ss 0200.
I will need a engine mount seen as well.

Phil Matheson
Australia

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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[John Martindale]

Hi Ya Phil

Try the end of a Holden spring and a castering supermarket wheel.just
joking

.. but I did use the end of a small lower car spring leaf..the RR
supplied  plate was totally under strength, bent upwards over a short period
and cracked around the bolt hole.

I got custom mount welded by an aviation certified welder in Ballina. Very
reasonable price.

John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
Australia

ph:61 2 6658 4767
m:0403 432179
email:john_martindale at bigpond.com
web site: http://john-martindale-kr2.zxq.net
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Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 8:04 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Tail wheel assembly

HI guys.

What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring for my 
KR2ss 0200.
I will need a engine mount seen as well.

Phil Matheson
Australia

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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Could you use the spring off of an old office chair ? Virg


 On 8/26/2013 6:04 AM, Phillip Matheson wrote:
> HI guys.
>
> What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring 
> for my KR2ss 0200.
> I will need a engine mount seen as well.
>
> Phil Matheson
> Australia
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Jeff Scott]

Phil,

I used the homebuilder spring [06-14500 ?$59.65] from Aircraft Spruce, then 
formed a second leaf to back it up. ?I used the homebuilders tailwheel as well, 
but there are a lot of tailwheel choices. ?I tried several and settled on this 
one as my favorite. [P/N 06-00403](Aircraft Spruce)

Send me an email off line if you want a copy of the Rand Robinson O-200 mount 
drawings so you can build your own.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


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> From: Phillip Matheson
> Sent: 08/26/13 04:04 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Tail wheel assembly
> 
> HI guys.
> 
> What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring for my 
> KR2ss 0200.
> I will need a engine mount seen as well.
> 
> Phil Matheson
> Australia
> 

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Craig Williams]

Halfway down this page is what I used.

http://kr2seafury.com/9.html







 From: Phillip Matheson 
To: KRnet  
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:04 AM
Subject: KR> Tail wheel assembly


HI guys.

What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring for my 
KR2ss 0200.
I will need a engine mount seen as well.

Phil Matheson
Australia

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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 05:04 AM 8/26/2013, you wrote:
>What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring 
>for my KR2ss 0200.


It's hard to beat the assembly that Mark Langford and I ,and 
others,  have used.  Mark had over 1000 hours on his and I have 500 
on mine with not a single shimmy or other problems.  Any lightweight 
spring , auto , golf cart, etc. , would work.  Mark and I both use 
the lightweight, single fork, 4" wheel unit.  I don't see this unit 
listed on either AS&S or Wick's site.

Aviation Products, Inc
114 Bryant St.
Ojai, CA 93023
ph/fax (805) 646-6042

http://www.n56ml.com/gear/100320027m.jpg

scroll down and read Mark's write up on the wheels from AS&S.

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Alan Middleton]

Hi Larry
Can you send me a photo of the attachments of the cables in the fuselage. Can 
you include the attachments And the exit points through the fuselage thank you 
so much alan

Alan Middleton 0407356948

On 27/08/2013, at 7:47 AM, Larry&Sallie Flesner  wrote:

> At 05:04 AM 8/26/2013, you wrote:
>> What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring for my 
>> KR2ss 0200.
> 
> 
> It's hard to beat the assembly that Mark Langford and I ,and others,  have 
> used.  Mark had over 1000 hours on his and I have 500 on mine with not a 
> single shimmy or other problems.  Any lightweight spring , auto , golf cart, 
> etc. , would work.  Mark and I both use the lightweight, single fork, 4" 
> wheel unit.  I don't see this unit listed on either AS&S or Wick's site.
> 
> Aviation Products, Inc
> 114 Bryant St.
> Ojai, CA 93023
> ph/fax (805) 646-6042
> 
> http://www.n56ml.com/gear/100320027m.jpg
> 
> scroll down and read Mark's write up on the wheels from AS&S.
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Jeff Scott]

The part number is [Part # 06-00401] at Aircraft Spruce. ?Wicks also carries 
the same unit. ?Mine is the 6" model of the same unit. ?I tried both on my KR 
and went back to the semi-pneumatic 6" version. ?The 6" tailwheel is a bit more 
drag, but much quieter when taxiing over cracks and expansion joints in the 
pavement. ?Additionally, because of the altitude where I'm based, my ground 
speeds are significantly higher during take off and landing, so I chose to stay 
with the 6" wheel. ?But as I said, there are many fine tailwheels out there and 
we all have our preferences for various reasons.

FWIW, Marks rant about Aircraft Spruce and tailwheel bearings on the web page 
you referenced ?<http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html> is a bit unfair and has some 
statements that are... mis-informed. ?I didn't see any reason to challenge it 
at the time since I figured he was blowing off steam. ?But I'd hate to see that 
referenced as fact when the statements made on that page just aren't so. ?

When you buy the tailwheel assembly, whether from Aviation Products or through 
Aircraft Spruce or Wicks, it has the bearings that were installed by Aviation 
Products. ?When you buy a replacement wheel from Aircraft Spruce or Wicks, it 
comes with the bearing that was installed in the wheel. ?Obviously, Aircraft 
Spruce and Wicks are buying them from the same place as Aviation products. 
?Aviation products replaces the crappy bearing with a good bearing before they 
sell it. ?Aircraft Spruce and Wicks sell the good bearing separately. ?It's 
actually a pretty common bearing that I found on the shelf at my local hardware 
store. ?Even the crappy bearing will hold up for a long time if you grease it. 
?At any rate, I don't see any malicious intent on the part of Aircraft Spruce. 
?Perhaps some ignorance on the part of their parts buyers, but no malicious 
intent. ?And they certainly aren't removing bearings and replacing them with 
substandard bearings as suggested on Mark'she web page, then selling the 
originals back as an upgrade. ?That simply doesn't make any business sense 
considering how inexpensive they are. ?I've dealt with Jim Irwin and Aircraft 
Spruce for over 30 years now. ?While I sometimes see mistakes made by their 
buyers, I have never seen anything that I would consider to be malicous intent.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 08/26/13 03:47 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly
> 
> At 05:04 AM 8/26/2013, you wrote:
> >What did you use and where can I find a tail wheel assembly + spring 
> >for my KR2ss 0200.
> 
> 
> It's hard to beat the assembly that Mark Langford and I ,and 
> others, have used. Mark had over 1000 hours on his and I have 500 
> on mine with not a single shimmy or other problems. Any lightweight 
> spring , auto , golf cart, etc. , would work. Mark and I both use 
> the lightweight, single fork, 4" wheel unit. I don't see this unit 
> listed on either AS&S or Wick's site.
> 
> Aviation Products, Inc
> 114 Bryant St.
> Ojai, CA 93023
> ph/fax (805) 646-6042
> 
> http://www.n56ml.com/gear/100320027m.jpg
> 
> scroll down and read Mark's write up on the wheels from AS&S.
> 
> Larry Flesner

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Patrick Driscoll]

I think I read somewhere on this group, that someone was using the wheels 
from wheel skates, (or whatever they are called). It seems that they bought 
the skates from a thrift shop and had 8 or 10 wheels for just a few bucks. 
They had to replace them often but for the price, they thought it was worth 
the trouble.
Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
patrick36 at usfamily.net
www.pensbypat.com
If you can read this, Thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran 

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Mark Jones]

>I think I read somewhere on this group, that someone was using the wheels 
>from wheel skates, (or whatever they are called). It seems that they bought 
>the skates from a thrift shop and had 8 or 10 wheels for just a few bucks.


Years ago I found a pneumatic tire which works excellent as a tail wheel. 
Pete Brautigam installed it on his KR and loves it. The best thing about it 
is that it is quiet and smooth over cracks. The tire wheel assembly is used 
on dirt downhill skateboards. The diameter is 6 inched if I remember 
correctly. I found them at a store called "Wheel and Sprocket. I never 
understood why more folks did not convert to the pneumatic wheel. Back then 
the tire and rim was about $20.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Mark Langford]

Jeff Scott wrote:

>> "FWIW, Marks rant about Aircraft Spruce and tailwheel bearings on the web 
>> page you referenced  is a bit unfair and 
>> has some statements that are... mis-informed. I didn't see any reason to 
>> challenge it at the time since I figured he was blowing off steam. But 
>> I'd hate to see that referenced as fact when the statements made on that 
>> page just aren't so."

The statement Jeff is talking about is the following paragraph.
I wrote: "So I called Aviation Products and asked what kind of bearing they 
put in their tailwheels and was told "heavy duty sealed bearings, greased 
for life is the only way we sell them...why wouldn't you use the best?" I 
also learned that Aircraft Spruce orders the assembly from Aviation Products 
MINUS the wheel for some reason! Although I didn't hear it from Aviation 
Products, one must assume that AS&S substitutes the less expensive R&K 
caster with the ungreased and unprotected bearings and saves a few bucks. 
And after your ungreased bearings rapidly wear out, you'll either buy a new 
tailwheel (with no grease), or if you're really enterprising, you'll put new 
bearings in it."

Back when I wrote this, I got my information from the lady that owns 
Aviation Products.  To make sure I wasn't crazy, I just spoke to her a few 
minutes by phone ago to check my facts.  She verified Jeff's statement that 
she only sells the assembly to both Wicks and AS&S WITH sealed bearings.  I 
would have sworn that I heard something to the contrary when I spoke to her 
about 2-3 years ago, but I'll admit it is possible that it was a 
miscommunication on my part.  I'd be amazed if that were the case, but it's 
possible.

Jeff also wrote:

>"Aviation products replaces the crappy bearing with a good bearing before 
>they sell it. Aircraft Spruce and Wicks sell the good bearing separately."<

I would have to challenge this with what Karen told me a few minutes ago, as 
well as back when I wrote the rant.  Aviation Products builds or at least 
assembles those tailwheel units essentially in house (she was bending tubing 
when I called her).  She installs only wheels that  have fully sealed and 
lubricated bearings, direct from  R&K Industrial Wheels.  She doesn't bother 
buying them without grease, because it makes no sense at all to do so. 
Also, having driven several of the bearings out of the wheel (which resulted 
in my rant), I'm pretty sure that the bearing is either useless or 
short-lived after it's driven out, so reselling it wouldn't work.  I never 
implied that anybody was removing sealed/greased bearings and replacing them 
with ungreased bearings, or the other way around...only substituting 
greaseless-bearing wheels for an application that clearly demands 
greased-bearing wheels.   Buy the correct greased-bearing wheel first and 
you're done.

One thing's for sure...selling a REPLACEMENT wheel that has no grease in it 
nor a plausible way to grease it doesn't make a bit of sense.  If anybody 
doubts this, please buy one and see for yourself.  And you are definitely 
correct Jeff, when you say "That simply doesn't make any business sense".

Jeff also wrote:

"Aircraft Spruce and Wicks sell the good bearing separately. It's actually a 
pretty common bearing that I found on the shelf at my local hardware store."

I just checked both Spruce and Wicks websites, but could no longer find a 
distinction between the bearing without grease and the "heavy duty" bearing 
that actually has grease, although the photos on the Wicks site look just 
like the ones a bought from AS&S that didn't have grease in them, and they 
even say in the description "tailwheels do not have grease zerks."I'm 
not sure why they'd mention that, this could mean they are greased but not 
sealed, which would likely work fine for our use.  I did call R&K Wheel back 
at the time of the rant to ask if they sold a version of that wheel without 
grease in it, and if so, how would one grease the bearing without damaging 
the wheel.  They do sell a dry version, and the answer was "you can't" 
lubricate it.  Like Jeff, I bought greased and sealed bearings from 
elsewhere (McMaster Carr in my case),

As a sanity check, anyone having a tailwheel (by itself) that is not yet 
installed that looks like the one at 
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/sonexwheel4.php or
http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/all-categories/4-tailwheel/twnp-4?&plpver=10&origin=keyword&filter=&by=prod
 , 
please give it a shake and see if it rattles.  If it does, I'd be looking 
for a new tailwheel with a sealed bearing.  Please let me know if you find 
one of these, or evidence that you can or cannot find a wheel that is not 
greased available from either house.  I will amend the website based on my 
findings. My advice in the meantime would be to buy it direct from Aviation 
Products at http://www.apitailwheels.com/ to ensure it's a sealed and 
greased bearing.

I forwar

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

>Hi Larry
>Can you send me a photo of the attachments of the cables in the 
>fuselage. Can you include the attachments And the exit points 
>through the fuselage thank you so much alan
>Alan Middleton 0407356948


I don't have any photos of the cable attach inside the fuselage but 
the two photos below show the exterior.  Click the photo to enlarge 
for a better view, especially the second one.

I tied the two cables together inside the fuselage for better 
geometry and have them each exiting through their own cable 
guide.  That keeps the tailwheel cable from putting a side load on 
the rudder cable.  I pull my tailwheel cables tight just to the point 
before pulling slack in the rudder cable from the attach point to the 
rudder.  Some builders like a bit of slack in the tailwheel cable but 
my setup gives me very responsive handling when I taxi and takeoff 
and landing with the tailwheel on the ground.  I think the springs 
help with side loads on the tailwheel in keeping some of the strain 
off the rudder cables.  Just my opinion.  My rudder peddles are 
lightly spring loaded to the firewall to keep the peddles centered 
and the rudder cables taught.

So, is there a softer tire I can get for this assembly?  That little 
wheel sounds like a siren on a grooved runway like Mt.Vernon. :-)

Larry Flesner

http://www.krgathering.org/images/Gathering%202011/N211LF/RRL_2789.jpg

http://www.krgathering.org/images/Gathering%202012/N211LF/RRL_5393.jpg

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 08:20 PM 8/26/2013, you wrote:
>Years ago I found a pneumatic tire which works excellent as a tail 
>wheel. Pete Brautigam installed it on his KR and loves it.
+++

I've searched the world over and have yet to find a pneumatic 
wheel/tire in a 4 or even 6 inch that will work on our 
application.  I'd love to have one.

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Dene]

Larry wrote:
" I've searched the world over and have yet to find a pneumatic 
wheel/tire in a 4 or even 6 inch that will work on our 
application.  I'd love to have one."

Larry, Matco make a beautiful CNC machined ally "mag" rim with a pneumatic
tyre on it. I fitted one to a whisper motor glider in December last year. If
I remember correctly it was 6". I am sure the wheel can be purchased
separate from the fork.

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
tel:27419560048
cell: 27845805003
Port Elizabeth
South Africa

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Marc Baca]

I think this might be the wheel that Dene is talking about.

http://www.matcomfg.com/TAILWHEEL6PNEUMATIC-idv-3373-13.html

Marc Baca
Chino, CA 





 From: Dene 
To: 'KRnet'  
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly


Larry wrote:
" I've searched the world over and have yet to find a pneumatic 
wheel/tire in a 4 or even 6 inch that will work on our 
application.? I'd love to have one."

Larry, Matco make a beautiful CNC machined ally "mag" rim with a pneumatic
tyre on it. I fitted one to a whisper motor glider in December last year. If
I remember correctly it was 6". I am sure the wheel can be purchased
separate from the fork.

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
tel:27419560048
cell: 27845805003
Port Elizabeth
South Africa




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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Dene]

That would be the one Marc

Regards
Dene Collett
Avlec Projects cc
tel:27419560048
cell: 27845805003
Port Elizabeth
South Africa


-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Marc Baca
Sent: 27 August, 2013 9:15 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly

I think this might be the wheel that Dene is talking about.

http://www.matcomfg.com/TAILWHEEL6PNEUMATIC-idv-3373-13.html
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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Pat and Robin Russo]

I have tried wheels from wheel skates. Several times and from several 
different manufacturers. On both grass and paved strips. ALL have failed 
(disintegrated) abruptly within hours of use. On one occasion shearing one 
of the mounting bolts holding the spring to the fuselage.

-Original Message- 
From: Mark Jones
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:20 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly

>I think I read somewhere on this group, that someone was using the wheels 
>from wheel skates, (or whatever they are called). It seems that they bought 
>the skates from a thrift shop and had 8 or 10 wheels for just a few bucks.









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KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Mark Langford]

Last night I wrote:

> I just checked both Spruce and Wicks websites, but could no longer find a 
> distinction between the bearing without grease and the "heavy duty" 
> bearing that actually has grease...

This morning I checked the 2012-2013 hard-copy version of the AS&S catalog, 
and on page 276, under the heading of "Replacement Wheels for Homebuilder's 
Special Tailwheels", they list both 4" and 6" "replacement wheels with tires 
and bearings.  These look like the dry-bearing wheels I received back in 
2009 and 2010 from AS&S.  Underneath these tailwheels is the heading 
"Longlife Sealed Ball Bearings", which are now up to $9.75, with the 
description "These high quality bearings are superior to standard bearings 
furnished with homebuilder tailwheels", which says something about the 
replacement tailwheels they sell.  You be the judge.

Given that I can't prove something said three years ago on the phone, I've 
removed the sentence "I also learned that Aircraft Spruce orders the 
assembly from Aviation Products MINUS the wheel for some reason!", and added 
"as their replacement" to the sentence "Although I didn't hear it from 
Aviation Products, one must assume that AS&S substitutes the less expensive 
R&K caster with the ungreased and unprotected bearings as their replacement 
wheels and saves a few bucks."

Other than those two edits to clarify things, I stand behind every word in 
that web page, and still think it's important that folks use a 
greased-bearing replacement wheel in their Aircraft Products tailwheels, 
like they came from the manufacturer.  I spent the time to do the research 
and to create that webpage to shed some light on a situation that needs to 
be exposed and corrected, not just to vent.  Hopefully I didn't waste my 
time with that effort...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[danrh at windstream.net]

While I am a fan of AS and Wicks.  I think they both do a great job.  However, 
when buying anything "tailwheel" why would you not get it from the people that 
make the tailwheel?  Aviation Products is a great company and they make a great 
product.

Maybe they even make one that is pneumatic?  But for the money, I can live with 
my hard wheel.

Dan

_


 Hopefully I didn't waste my 
time with that effort... 

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Larry&Sallie Flesner]

At 02:14 AM 8/27/2013, you wrote:
>I think this might be the wheel that Dene is talking about.
>http://www.matcomfg.com/TAILWHEEL6PNEUMATIC-idv-3373-13.html
>


Thanks for the info.  I started with a 6" Matco solid years ago but 
switched to the 4" Aviation Products unit to knock 2 pounds off the 
tail.  I wonder if I can adapt this wheel / tire to my present unit, 
hu..

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Jeff Scott]

The distance between the tailwheel axle and the steering yoke won't allow for a 
larger tailwheel. ?If you bought the 6" model of the same tailwheel, then you 
have a semi-pneumatic tire (hollow on the inside) that is much quieter, but 
also heavier and draggier. ?One can use the 4" wheel on the 6" frame by 
shimming outside of the bearings, which is what I did when I tested with the 4" 
tailwheel.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


> - Original Message -
> From: Larry&Sallie Flesner
> Sent: 08/27/13 06:35 AM
> To: Marc Baca, KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly
> 
> At 02:14 AM 8/27/2013, you wrote:
> >I think this might be the wheel that Dene is talking about.
> >http://www.matcomfg.com/TAILWHEEL6PNEUMATIC-idv-3373-13.html
> >
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info. I started with a 6" Matco solid years ago but 
> switched to the 4" Aviation Products unit to knock 2 pounds off the 
> tail. I wonder if I can adapt this wheel / tire to my present unit, 
> hu..
> 
> Larry Flesner

KR> Tail wheel assembly

[Jeff Scott]

I wouldn't call it wasted effort. ?FWIW, I agree that one should use the sealed 
bearings. ?The point I was trying to make was that your web page read like you 
seemed to think Aircraft Spruce was doing something with malicious intent. ?I 
don't believe that to be the case. ?But your point that if one buys the 
replacement wheel from Aircraft Spruce or Wicks, you also need to buy the 
better bearing is spot on.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Langford
> Sent: 08/27/13 05:41 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assembly
> 
> Last night I wrote:
> 
> > I just checked both Spruce and Wicks websites, but could no longer find a 
> > distinction between the bearing without grease and the "heavy duty" 
> > bearing that actually has grease...
> 
> This morning I checked the 2012-2013 hard-copy version of the AS&S catalog, 
> and on page 276, under the heading of "Replacement Wheels for Homebuilder's 
> Special Tailwheels", they list both 4" and 6" "replacement wheels with tires 
> and bearings. These look like the dry-bearing wheels I received back in 
> 2009 and 2010 from AS&S. Underneath these tailwheels is the heading 
> "Longlife Sealed Ball Bearings", which are now up to $9.75, with the 
> description "These high quality bearings are superior to standard bearings 
> furnished with homebuilder tailwheels", which says something about the 
> replacement tailwheels they sell. You be the judge.
> 
> Given that I can't prove something said three years ago on the phone, I've 
> removed the sentence "I also learned that Aircraft Spruce orders the 
> assembly from Aviation Products MINUS the wheel for some reason!", and added 
> "as their replacement" to the sentence "Although I didn't hear it from 
> Aviation Products, one must assume that AS&S substitutes the less expensive 
> R&K caster with the ungreased and unprotected bearings as their replacement 
> wheels and saves a few bucks."
> 
> Other than those two edits to clarify things, I stand behind every word in 
> that web page, and still think it's important that folks use a 
> greased-bearing replacement wheel in their Aircraft Products tailwheels, 
> like they came from the manufacturer. I spent the time to do the research 
> and to create that webpage to shed some light on a situation that needs to 
> be exposed and corrected, not just to vent. Hopefully I didn't waste my 
> time with that effort...
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Tail Wheel spring

[Phillip Matheson]

Could someone send me the measurements of the KR2S Tail wheel spring, I will 
make one from a auto spring like Larry.

Phil matheson

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KR> Tail wheel assy.

[Doran Jaffas]

Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel
assembly?
   I would like to change mine over to a locking type.
Thx
 Doran

KR> Tail wheel assy.

[danrh at windstream.net]

http://krbuilder.org/MakingTailWheelSpring/index.html

On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 7:52 AM, Doran Jaffas  wrote: 

=
Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel 
assembly? 
   I would like to change mine over to a locking type. 
Thx 
 Doran 
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KR> Tail wheel assy.

[Mark Langford]

Doran wrote:

>Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel
assembly?
   I would like to change mine over to a locking type.<

The "homebuilder's special" from Aviation Products is the ticket, but buy it
direct from Aviations Products rather than AS&S or Wicks...it's cheaper, or
at least it was last time I checked.  And that certainly applies to
replacement wheels, that is if you want grease in them!See
http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html for more on that...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML at N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com  

KR> Tail wheel assy.

[Jeff Scott]

If interested, I have a one or more of these tailwheels sitting in my hangar 
I'd like to sell, in both 4" and 6" variants. ?I don't recall how many right 
now, but I'm thinking one of each. ?I'll have to go look in my bucket full of 
tailwheels to make sure of what I have.

I do make a slight modification to these tailwheels with the addition of a 
bronze thrust bushing so the top nut on the tailwheel can then be used to 
adjust the preload to dampen out any tendency to shimmy.

Additionally, I have a Scott 2000, Maule SFSA, Maule SFS-P8A, and most of a 
Scott 3200 for a Cessna round spring, all in need of overhaul, parts, or 
maintenance if someone is in need.

Please don't reply to the forum. ?Email me privately at .

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Langford
> Sent: 04/08/14 10:44 AM
> To: 'KRnet'
> Subject: Re: KR> Tail wheel assy.
> 
> Doran wrote:
> 
> >Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel
> assembly?
> ?I would like to change mine over to a locking type.<
> 
> The "homebuilder's special" from Aviation Products is the ticket, but buy it
> direct from Aviations Products rather than AS&S or Wicks...it's cheaper, or
> at least it was last time I checked. And that certainly applies to
> replacement wheels, that is if you want grease in them! See
> http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html for more on that...
> 
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML at N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com 

KR> Tail Wheel spring

[Phillip Matheson]

Can someone please let me know the thickness of the tail wheel spring, I 
need to find a light leaf spring to cut and make one..

Phil Matheson

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KR> Tail Wheel spring

[brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com]

The plans version is 1/8", or 3.175mm for you Aussie types.  As you are
probably aware, the plans version does not stick very far aft and it is
fairly wide and it is a lot more likely to bend if you extend it.  I
extended mine some and used two pieces of 1/8" that I think were only
like an inch and a half wide to fit in a Matco tailwheel.  Mine were
spring steel and were heat treated and still bent. 


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Subject: KR> Tail Wheel spring
From: Phillip Matheson via KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Wed, November 19, 2014 8:40 pm
To: "KRnet" 

Can someone please let me know the thickness of the tail wheel spring, I

need to find a light leaf spring to cut and make one..

Phil Matheson

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KR> Tail Wheel spring

[Flesner]

>
>Can someone please let me know the thickness of the tail wheel spring, I
>need to find a light leaf spring to cut and make one..
>Phil Matheson
+

Didn't measure mine but it is in the 3/16" (4.76mm) to 1/4"(6.35mm) 
thick range by 1 3/4" wide.  I dressed down the wheel end by 1/8" on 
each side to fit the tail wheel assembly and then cold bent the 
spring to desired shape.  My spring came from an 80 year old 
automobile but I've heard the springs from a golf cart might work 
well.   Mine seems to have just the right amount of flex without 
being too "springy".   Speaking of tail wheels,  I really LOVE my 
Matco pneumatic tail wheel.  I have it mounted on slightly modified, 
lightest weight, Aviation Products tail wheel assembly.  No more 
RUMBLE, RUMBLE, RUMBLE..

Photo 
at  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8714.JPG  is 
with the old solid tire.

Larry Flesner 

KR> Tail Wheel spring

[Dan Heath]

You might want to check this out.  I will stop by the hangar today and get
the final thickness.



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-Original Message-
>

>Can someone please let me know the thickness of the tail wheel spring, 

>I need to find a light leaf spring to cut and make one..

>Phil Matheson

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KR> Tail Wheel spring

[Phillip Matheson]

Thanks Dan

I have been looking at you home made spring, not sure if the have the right 
materials at hand.

Thanks to the other reply as well.
Phil


-Original Message- 
From: Dan Heath via KRnet
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:14 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: Re: KR> Tail Wheel spring

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KR> Tail wheel spring

[Phillip Matheson]

Could someone let me know the dimensions for the KR supply ( Steve) tail 
wheel spring.

I have the Matco tail wheel that needs a 1 1/2 inch spring, what is the 
length you are using?

Phil matheson




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KR> Tail wheel spring

[Mark Langford]

Phil Matheson wrote:

>I have the Matco tail wheel that needs a 1 1/2 inch spring, what is the
length you are using?

I've seen tail springs that were 4" long, and some that were probably 18"
long.  Apparently they both work.  Somewhere around 14"-16" seems to work
well, at least on my plane.  Length is a factor in determining the thickness
as well.  Most of us try a quarter inch thick, and if that' not enough, add
a reinforcing layer of 1/8" 4130  or something...a "built up" spring. 

 If width is your concern, as with the Aviation Products tail wheel, it's
easily ground down on the width where it interfaces with the tail spring
(see http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html for a photo of that).  

Does nvAero even sell a tail spring?

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML at N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com 

KR> Tail wheel spring

[Flesner]

>Could someone let me know the dimensions for the KR supply ( 
> Steve) tail wheel spring.
>I have the Matco tail wheel that needs a 1 1/2 inch spring, what is 
>the length you are using?
>Phil matheson


I don't have the dimensions but here is what I'm using.  Works 
great.  Have since added a pneumatic tire.  Looks like it needs a cleaning.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8714.JPG

Larry Flesner 

KR> Tail wheel spring

[Steve G.]

The only spring we have at the moment is old stock of the original plans 
spring. It is marginal at best unless used on very light KR's. 

I haven't been in the office or at the hangar since I turned the website back 
on. Thought I was going to have a few weeks to catch up but had construction 
projects that needed to begin before planned. 

Steve Glover

Sent from my iPhone 6

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 05:02, Mark Langford via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Phil Matheson wrote:
> 
>> I have the Matco tail wheel that needs a 1 1/2 inch spring, what is the
> length you are using?
> 
> I've seen tail springs that were 4" long, and some that were probably 18"
> long.  Apparently they both work.  Somewhere around 14"-16" seems to work
> well, at least on my plane.  Length is a factor in determining the thickness
> as well.  Most of us try a quarter inch thick, and if that' not enough, add
> a reinforcing layer of 1/8" 4130  or something...a "built up" spring. 
> 
> If width is your concern, as with the Aviation Products tail wheel, it's
> easily ground down on the width where it interfaces with the tail spring
> (see http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html for a photo of that).  
> 
> Does nvAero even sell a tail spring?
> 
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML at N56ML.com
> www.N56ML.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Tail wheel spring

[Joe. E. Wallace]

Good to have you back Steve !  jw

Joe. E. Wallace
jwallacep51 at gmail.com



> On Jan 28, 2015, at 07:55, Steve G. via KRnet  wrote:
> 
> The only spring we have at the moment is old stock of the original plans 
> spring. It is marginal at best unless used on very light KR's. 
> 
> I haven't been in the office or at the hangar since I turned the website back 
> on. Thought I was going to have a few weeks to catch up but had construction 
> projects that needed to begin before planned. 
> 
> Steve Glover

KR> Tail wheel Block

[Phillip Matheson]

I was wondering if anyone has had problems with the tail wheel block coming 
loose or damaged on landing.
I was thinking of beefing mine up before I install the tail wheel.

If so what mods did you do?

Phil Matheson

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KR> Tail wheel Block

[bjoenunley]

I am working on my tail wheel taday and also wondering what I can do to 
reinforce the attach points.?
I have installed additional 1/2 by 1/2 spruce suports in the tail section 
secured by T-88. ?
I am using spring steel. The attaching bolt holes are spaced approximately 8 
inches apart to disperse the landing loads.
Side note; Spring steel takes some effort to shape.
Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army Retired?JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?

 Original message 
From: Phillip Matheson via KRnet  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 07/25/2015  11:01 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  
Cc: Phillip Matheson  
Subject: KR> Tail wheel Block 

I was wondering if anyone has had problems with the tail wheel block coming 
loose or damaged on landing.
I was thinking of beefing mine up before I install the tail wheel.

If so what mods did you do?

Phil Matheson

-
??

KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[svd]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input on the aileron gap seals.

Many of the gap seals on KR?s I?ve seen on the web we made of a 10mil mylar. A 
few mentioned that they get sucked into the gap making control difficult, and 
most with the RAF 48 airfoil don?t see improved performance.  Could it be that 
a overly flexible gap seal, sucked into the gap, would also stick up beyond the 
gap creating a mini spoiler - negating any drag reduction of gap sealing?

Anyways, my question today is about tail wheel springs.  

If I?m lucky my plane will look a bit like Pete Brautigam?s, and he has a very 
nice looking tail wheel spring set up. Most of the KR?s I see pictures of do 
not have tail wheel connect springs, which seems quite unusual.   Clearly it 
must be ok.  Is it? 

Cheers,
Owen Hughes

KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[Jeff Scott]

?Anyways, my question today is about tail wheel springs.

If I?m lucky my plane will look a bit like Pete Brautigam?s, and he has a very 
nice looking tail wheel spring set up. Most of the KR?s I see pictures of do 
not have tail wheel connect springs, which seems quite unusual. Clearly it must 
be ok. Is it?

Cheers,
Owen Hughes
___
?
I am assuming you are referencing the springs on the tailwheel steering cables 
typically found on other aircraft.  I had them on my KR for a number of years.  
With a little slack in the steering cables, the springs were typically standing 
straight up while in flight.  Generally speaking they were good for creating 
drag, but didn't serve much of a useful function for the plane.  I eventually 
eliminated them and prefer to fly with just a little slack in the cables for 
the tailwheel steering.  So on the ground, the primary steering is with the 
rudder.  The cables to the tailwheel will turn the tailwheel a bit just before 
the rudder pedal bottoms out.  Tight turns are always going to be made with the 
brakes anyway.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[Larry Flesner]

>If I???m lucky my plane will look a bit like 
>Pete Brautigam???s, and he has a very nice 
>looking tail wheel spring set up. Most of the 
>KR???s I see pictures of do not have tail wheel 
>connect springs, which seems quite unusual.

+++

I would recommend the "Aviation Products" 
tailwheel assembly that has served me well for 
550 hours now.  I think Mark Langford used that 
same assembly on 56ML I modified it a while back 
by having the arm lengthened a bit over one inch 
and installed a Matco 6" fully pneumatic wheel 
assembly (not shown in the photo).  I love it!! 
It totally eliminated all the rumble of the old 
4" solid wheel.  My KR handles on the ground as 
well as any tri-gear with no braking action 
required.  The springs are Maule anti-shimmy 
springs.  The unit is steerable with breakaway 
full swivel at about 30 degrees.  I can spin the KR on one wheel on the ramp.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8714.JPG


Larry Flesner 

KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[Jeff Scott]

?
?

I would recommend the "Aviation Products"
tailwheel assembly that has served me well for
550 hours now. I think Mark Langford used that
same assembly on 56ML I modified it a while back
by having the arm lengthened a bit over one inch
and installed a Matco 6" fully pneumatic wheel
assembly (not shown in the photo). I love it!!
It totally eliminated all the rumble of the old
4" solid wheel. My KR handles on the ground as
well as any tri-gear with no braking action
required. The springs are Maule anti-shimmy
springs. The unit is steerable with breakaway
full swivel at about 30 degrees. I can spin the KR on one wheel on the ramp.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8714.JPG


Larry Flesner


I would recommend the same, except to buy the one with the 6" semi-pneumatic 
wheel.  I have over 1100 hrs on mine now.  I do recommend adding a flat washer 
type bushing to the bottom of the vertical shaft so you can use the top nut on 
the tailwheel to preload it to prevent shimmy.  Other than adjusting the 
preload about every 50 hrs or so, and replacing the bearings once or twice in 
20 years now, it has been about as good of a tailwheel as I have ever owned.  


-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> Tail Wheel bearings

[Mark Langford]

I also recommend the 20 degree Aviation Products tailwheel, as I've had 
zero problems with mine other than wheel bearings.  For that reason, I 
would buy the tailwheel assembly directly from the source, Aviation 
Products, at (805) 646-6042, rather than AS&S.  It is less expensive 
than from AS&S, and you know for a fact that you are getting high 
quality sealed (and lubricated) wheel bearings with it.

If that sounds ridiculous, please see about a quarter of the way down 
http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html , where I was sold dry, ungreased (and 
ungreaseable) bearings by AS&S, with no apologies.  I like to spread 
this word whenever possible.  There's no point in feeding the bears, and 
rewarding them for knowingly screwing builders!

And no, the above has nothing to do with springs on the tailwheel 
cables, but as you can see from the photo on the website, I don't have 
any springs either, just a little bit of slack to that they don't limit 
rudder travel at full stop.  Troy Petteway recommended this setup, and 
it works fine on both N56ML and N891JF.

If you are on a budget and like to make things yourself, the tailwheel 
setup shown in the KR2 plans works fine, weighs less, and is at least as 
aerodynamic as about anything else you could think of.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[bjoenunley]

I modeled my tail wheel from pictures of Mark's and Larry's using spring steel 
from an old truck. ?I have no control cable springs just straight cables.


Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?

KR> Tail Wheel fun

[Phillip Matheson]

You tail wheel  guys will be happy to hear I have now got 25 landing in my 
mates 1962 Pacer 150.

What a hoot, and yes I did manage to get two good landing in. The last 5 in 
strong L & R cross winds.
And of course a few go arounds when she bounced.

Glad is was on the grass and not the sealed strip.

So I do admire you guys at grease them in all the time.

I will keep practicing.  At least it is only costing me the fuel.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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KR> Tail Wheel fun

[Dan Heath]

So, now, I guess that KR is in for a conversion.  Once the bug bites, you
might as well give in.

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has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
You tail wheel  guys will be happy to hear I have now got 25 landing in my 
mates 1962 Pacer 150.

What a hoot, 

KR> tail wheel spring.

[Harold Woods]

Hi Netters.
You can take all the precautions that you want to create the perfect tail
whel spring and find that it was in vain.Years ago a friend meticulously
suitably hardened his to what was to be the correct hardnes. He was
performing high speed taxi tests on a short runway with high rock and trees
at one end. He cauciously accelerated  and was almost at the end when he got
his tail up. I suggested that he should go back as far as possible  and give
it full power, raise the tail , power back and run down the field tail up
for a bit then slowdown.  He said "come in with me" ( I knew that it was not
legal for me  to do so). He gave it full power but before he raised the tail
we found ourselves at 20 feet up.The rock at the end looked like mountains!
He cut the power but it kept on at 20 feet. He kept bringing the stick back
to slow it down. I fealt the stall occur.The bottom dropped out, It hit
fairly flat but hard. It bounced and eventually stopped. There was a new
problem. The tail of the fuselage was dragging on the ground. The tail
spring had broken into 5 pieces.To get it off the field we went to a local
auto wrecker and had a temporary tail spring made. The man took an old auto
spring,asked "where do you want the first bend". He applied the torch and
bent it  as necessary. "What about the bolt holes?" Zap with the cutting
torch!  We asked what about the tempering of the spring, to which he replied
" It's as good now as before I heated it". He was right.We bolted it into
place and got off the field. It worked perfectly and remained on the plane
thereafter with out ever having any further problems.
I sometimes wonder about all the fuss and blather that we worry about on
some parts. Sorry about the long winded tale.
Regards
Harold Woods
Orillia,ON.Can
haroldwo...@rogers.com

KR> tail wheel spring.

[Murray Gill]

Interesting "tail" Harold.  I wonder if anyone has done a tailwheel spring
in carbon fibre.  Would there be a weight saving in doing so?
Murray Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Harold Woods
> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 03:52
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> tail wheel spring.
>
>
> Hi Netters.
> You can take all the precautions that you want to create the perfect tail
> whel spring and find that it was in vain.Years ago a friend meticulously
> suitably hardened his to what was to be the correct hardnes. He was
> performing high speed taxi tests on a short runway with high rock
> and trees
> at one end. He cauciously accelerated  and was almost at the end
> when he got
> his tail up. I suggested that he should go back as far as
> possible  and give
> it full power, raise the tail , power back and run down the field tail up
> for a bit then slowdown.  He said "come in with me" ( I knew that
> it was not
> legal for me  to do so). He gave it full power but before he
> raised the tail
> we found ourselves at 20 feet up.The rock at the end looked like
> mountains!
> He cut the power but it kept on at 20 feet. He kept bringing the
> stick back
> to slow it down. I fealt the stall occur.The bottom dropped out, It hit
> fairly flat but hard. It bounced and eventually stopped. There was a new
> problem. The tail of the fuselage was dragging on the ground. The tail
> spring had broken into 5 pieces.To get it off the field we went to a local
> auto wrecker and had a temporary tail spring made. The man took
> an old auto
> spring,asked "where do you want the first bend". He applied the torch and
> bent it  as necessary. "What about the bolt holes?" Zap with the cutting
> torch!  We asked what about the tempering of the spring, to which
> he replied
> " It's as good now as before I heated it". He was right.We bolted it into
> place and got off the field. It worked perfectly and remained on the plane
> thereafter with out ever having any further problems.
> I sometimes wonder about all the fuss and blather that we worry about on
> some parts. Sorry about the long winded tale.
> Regards
> Harold Woods
> Orillia,ON.Can
> haroldwo...@rogers.com
>
>
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KR> tail wheel spring.

[Dan Heath]

Carbon fiber is somewhat brittle, so I would not do that. I put an auto leaf
spring on the Little Beast after the original got twisted.



We have the normal spring on this KR, but it's extension is very short, so I
am anticipating no problems with the spring. I just wish I had that tail
wheel that I had on the Beast. 



I also think we worry about too many insignificant things, but who knows
what is insignificant until you ask?



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KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Mark Jones]

A lot of you are looking for pneumatic tail wheels. Today, I found 5"
pneumatic tires and tubes. These are used on all terrain scooters. After
flying in Marti's KR2 with the solid type scooter tire and hearing how loud
the wheel is on the ground, I would switch over to this pneumatic tire
immediately. Wheel & Sprocket is the name of the store I was in that carries
these.  http://wheelandsprocket.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=12
  Unfortunately, they
are only located in Wisconsin. Maybe some of your local bike stores have
something similar.

Mark Jones (N886MJ) 
Wales, WI

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[larry flesner]

At 01:23 PM 10/27/04 -0500, you wrote:
>A lot of you are looking for pneumatic tail wheels. Today, I found 5"
>pneumatic tires and tubes. These are used on all terrain scooters. 
>Mark Jones (N886MJ) 
>Wales, WI
+

Mark,

Can you get us any closer than the web addresses you listed?  I did
a search on their site and didn't find anything close.  Even a search
for "scooters" came up empty.

Thanks,

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Mark Jones]

They do not list them on their web site. As soon as I seen the tire, I knew
it was what the tail draggers needed. The tire is 5" OD and I would estimate
inflated it is about 3/4" diameter. they had a price of $14.95 on the tire
and $9.95 on the tube. I forgot to check the hub price. This store is only a
couple blocks from where I work. I can get you more info if needed or pick
one up for you.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html


- Original Message - 
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic


> At 01:23 PM 10/27/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >A lot of you are looking for pneumatic tail wheels. Today, I found 5"
> >pneumatic tires and tubes. These are used on all terrain scooters.
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >Wales, WI
> +
>
> Mark,
>
> Can you get us any closer than the web addresses you listed?  I did
> a search on their site and didn't find anything close.  Even a search
> for "scooters" came up empty.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Dan Heath]

I promise you tailwheel guys that you will never notice the noise because
you will be having so much fun. And even if you do, it is really no big
thing. I have 185 hours with one of them and it never bothered me a bit, not
even a single little bit. 

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
has expired.

See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics 

Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Doug Rupert]

Most industrial or farm supply stores carry them on larger heavy duty
casters, both 4" and 5" pneumatic swivel or straight. I opted for the 4"
myself as will be working off unimproved strip probably should have gone for
the 5 but wanted to save weight.
Doug Rupert
Simcoe Ontario.

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[larry flesner]

At 01:19 AM 10/28/04 -0400, you wrote:
>Most industrial or farm supply stores carry them on larger heavy duty
>casters, both 4" and 5" pneumatic swivel or straight.
>Doug Rupert
++

NO ONE , including farm supply stores, in this part of the state of
Illinois carries any pneumatic tires small enough for a tailwheel.

I started with a 6 inch solid and then switched to a 4 inch solid to
save a couple pounds on the tail.  I've been on grass enough to
know that it (the 4 inch) works just fine.  I'd even venture to say 
you won't be able to tell the difference between the 4 and 6.

With that said, I'd still like to have a pneumatic.

Larry Flesner

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Doug Rupert]

OK Larry let me know how you make out and let me know if you want solid or
swivel type mount since they come as a unit from TSC Stores. I'll pick one
up and send it your way, or I could meet you at Orma's since he's half way
between us and I'll hand deliver it to save customs BS. That way I get to
see 2 birds at same time. Still pondering the engine possibilities as Bill
Kirkland has the Subaru he was going to put in, looking at Type 4 VW or
Wynne Corvair.
Doug

KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Brian Kraut]

Could you put a picture on your web site?

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:47 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic


They do not list them on their web site. As soon as I seen the tire, I knew
it was what the tail draggers needed. The tire is 5" OD and I would estimate
inflated it is about 3/4" diameter. they had a price of $14.95 on the tire
and $9.95 on the tube. I forgot to check the hub price. This store is only a
couple blocks from where I work. I can get you more info if needed or pick
one up for you.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html


- Original Message -
From: "larry flesner" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:28 PM
Subject: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic


> At 01:23 PM 10/27/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >A lot of you are looking for pneumatic tail wheels. Today, I found 5"
> >pneumatic tires and tubes. These are used on all terrain scooters.
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >Wales, WI
> +
>
> Mark,
>
> Can you get us any closer than the web addresses you listed?  I did
> a search on their site and didn't find anything close.  Even a search
> for "scooters" came up empty.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic

[Mark Jones]

Check the link on the post I did this afternoon. Some very good photos
there.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic


> Could you put a picture on your web site?
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:47 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic
>
>
> They do not list them on their web site. As soon as I seen the tire, I
knew
> it was what the tail draggers needed. The tire is 5" OD and I would
estimate
> inflated it is about 3/4" diameter. they had a price of $14.95 on the tire
> and $9.95 on the tube. I forgot to check the hub price. This store is only
a
> couple blocks from where I work. I can get you more info if needed or pick
> one up for you.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "larry flesner" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:28 PM
> Subject: KR> Tail Wheel - Pneumatic
>
>
> > At 01:23 PM 10/27/04 -0500, you wrote:
> > >A lot of you are looking for pneumatic tail wheels. Today, I found 5"
> > >pneumatic tires and tubes. These are used on all terrain scooters.
> > >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > >Wales, WI
> > +
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > Can you get us any closer than the web addresses you listed?  I did
> > a search on their site and didn't find anything close.  Even a search
> > for "scooters" came up empty.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
> >
> >
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KR> Tail Wheel Authority

[bjoenunley via KRnet]

Dear Airplane Drivers,
In your tail wheel aircraft; at low taxi speeds, does one direction have more 
turn authority than another?Left pedal for continentals and right pedal for VW 
etc.
Sometimes i can barely turn right when taxiing (Continental).  Wondered if my 
tail wheel is so light that it doesn't grab the grass against the engine torque 
or something else?
Joe Nunley Baker Florida 

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Re: KR> tail wheel

[Mark Langford via KRnet]

Mark Wegmet wrote:

> To those of you that fly (actually takeoff, land, and taxi) with a tail
> wheel set up, if you built one again from scratch, how would you do 
it and

> which set up (brand/type) would you use?

You've probably seen this already, but if not, see 
http://www.n56ml.com/kgear.html .  I wouldn't change a thing.  For those 
considering buying a replacement tailwheel, see the bottom part 
regarding the tailwheels that both AS&S and Wicks sell (or at least were 
selling at the time) that have no grease in them, and are very short lived.


Mark Langford
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Re: KR> tail wheel

[Daniel Heath via KRnet]

Here is how I did it and would not do it any other way nor would I use any
other Vendor.  I would use more laminates when building the spring, on the
first go-round.

 

http://krbuilder.org/MakingTailWheelSpring/index.html

 

I am now building a different plane and using a same tail wheel from
Aviation Products.

 

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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:10 PM
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Cc: Mark Wegmet
Subject: KR> tail wheel

 

To those of you that fly (actually takeoff, land, and taxi) with a tail

wheel set up, if you built one again from scratch, how would you do it and

which set up (brand/type) would you use?

 

Thanks for your time.

 

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Re: KR> tail wheel

[Flesner via KRnet]

On 8/26/2018 4:10 PM, Mark Wegmet via KRnet wrote:

which set up (brand/type) would you use?


+++

The one that Mark and others suggested, Aviation Products, Inc ,114 
Bryant St., Ojai, CA 93023, ph/fax (805) 646-6042 is the way to go.  I 
started with the light weight 4", single fork unit attached to a section 
of spring found in the attic of a blacksmith shop.  I later had the fork 
extended and it now runs on a Matco 6" pneumatic wheel.  AWESOME !!! I 
also solved the problem of my tailwheel going flat. I'll share the 
solution if anyone needs.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/050biibs5ta80x4/IMG_8763.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi9iha1a87xr4ti/IMG_8714.JPG?dl=0

I keep thinking a golf cart spring would be about right but have never 
had a need to check it out.  I cut a section of my spring and cold bent 
it in a big ass vise to the angle I wanted.  Worked for me.


Larry Flesner


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KR> Tail Wheel Spring

[Luis Claudio via KRnet]

Going with single tailwheel spring... good idea bad idea? 
Luis R Claudio KR2S Dallas
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KR>Tail wheel cables

[Phillip Matheson]

Hi guys
What is you thoughts on direct cable to tail with no slack?? 
Or 
Cables with slack ( as other types of aircraft use)
Or
Springs connecting the tail wheel?
Phil Matheson 

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KR>Tail wheel cables.

[colin hales]

My belief is that it depends on what type of tail wheel assembly you have. If 
you have a castoring or non-castoring. The springs you see in cables are either 
so you can still use the rudder while the tail wheel steering is locked in a 
straight position, or because you might want to use full rudder while the tail 
wheel is not pointing that way.

The tail weight on the KR, even with two fat people on board, will still allow 
you to move it to apply whatever rudder position you like, and the springs are 
a pain, they will wear and break and don't give a good feel. You are going to 
need all the direct steering you can get to help on take offs. Landings it's in 
the air anyway till about 25 knots, so it doesn't matter.

You may want to consider and place more importance on what type of tailwheel 
you use rather than what cables you use. Many would recommend a pneumatic wheel 
of some type. Experience of a solid tail wheel is that it just skips and 
bounced around, especially on grass and doesn't really aid tailwheel steering. 
Also, a solid tailwheel when taxiing on tarmac turns the back of the fuselage 
into a sound box and you hear every pebble in the tarmac being ridden over. In 
my plane, it was so loud, I stopped and got out as I thought the tail wheel had 
fallen off and the tail spring was being dragged down the runway. From 
experience, everyone I know who started off with a tiny solid wheel has turned 
to a larger pneumatic wheel. Having good tail wheel steering ability also 
increases the cross wind take off limits of the aircraft as you can keep the 
tailwheel on the ground and steering well, long enough for airflow over the 
rudder to increase so you can deal with the higher crosswinds when you lift
  the tailwheel about 35 to 40 knots.

So my advice, a solid direct cable, joined to the rudder cable in the fuselage, 
the cable has no slack and no springs going to a pneumatic tail wheel.

With this arrangement, you could land on tarmac, gravel, grass, the beach, 
snow, ice, golf courses all with no worries or concerns, except with golf 
course, make sure they are not landscaped and that the longest whole is at 
least a 400 yard par 4.

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KR>Tail wheel cables

[victor taylor via KRnet]

Short direct cables will only work if the wind is straight on your nose and you 
are not producing any torque; otherwise it won’t.
The reason is that your direction of travel rarely equates to the amount of 
rudder input you have. Here’s an example:
You are approaching to land and have a three knot crosswind. You have one wing 
down into the wind and enough rudder to hold the nose straight down the runway. 
As you slow down it takes more rudder to keep it straight. Everything looks 
fantastic, it’s going to be a great landing right up until the point that hard 
wired tail wheel touches the ground. In that instant the tail is going with 
that tail wheel that is cocked over at 25 degrees. Guess where the nose is 
going? You got it; every which way that you don’t want it to go. 

But with slack in the cables, the tail wheel will snap straight in line with 
the direction of travel and make you look like a master tail wheel pilot. 

For springs to work you have to experiment a lot to get the correct tension 
that will both allow the tail wheel to follow the direction of travel and be 
powerful enough to steer you during taxi at slow speeds. The strength of the 
springs is related to the mass aft of center of gravity and the arm of the 
controls. 

It’s an experimental aircraft though and you have to decide just how much you 
want to experiment. 

I am a CFI who teaches tail wheel. I would fly a KR with springs for the tail 
wheel but only in dead calm winds. My recommendation though is to go with what 
has been proven to work. 

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KR>Tail wheel steering.

[colin hales]

It was mentioned that "Short direct cables will only work if the wind is 
straight on your nose and you are not producing any torque; otherwise it won’t."

Unfortunately this statement is completely wrong or has many errors and please 
allow me to explain why.

As we all know, landings are easy, as you have no engine torque issues, and 
high airspeed, so cross wind limits to land I would say are 20 knots plus 
depending on how in practise you are.

But take off limits are different. On Take off, Jabiru and 0-200 engines torque 
wants to turn the aircraft to the left and you have to apply right rudder to 
keep straight. Therefore if the crosswind is coming from the right, that helps 
weathercock the aircraft against the torque and you could take off easily in a 
25 knot crosswind. A crosswind from the left adds to the engine torque and I 
would limit a left hand cross wind to 15 knots or less if you have limited 
length and need full power immediately, as you simply don't have enough rudder 
authority when the tail lifts at about 30 knots. Below 30 knots the tail wheel 
will be on the ground and steering the aircraft to the right or doing its best, 
depending if on grass ,gravel, sand or tarmac, along with the rudder position. 
If you put a spring on the tailwheel steering, it doesn't aid steering much if 
at all and you can't keep it straight even with full rudder. It just goes where 
ever the aircraft wants to take itself, as the rudder doesn't have enough 
authority. SO short cables and no springs improves the crosswind take off 
performance of KR2 taildragging aircraft 'without any doubt' and who wants an 
aircraft you can only fly in calm nil wind conditions with the wind straight 
down the runway?

The confusion that most pilots have is that most aircraft like cubs have a 
rudder big enough to work at about 5 knots and the tail you can get off the 
ground very quickly, so yes, tail springs work with them because the rudder is 
so strong. The KR2 rudder is small and only really adds authority to direction 
above 25 to 30 knots, below that you will be relying on the tail wheel 
steering. Having springs in it won't help! And once the tail wheel is off the 
ground, who cares what system you have as its off the ground and won't do 
anything anyway.

In strong blustery conditions you don't three point an aircraft, well not a 
KR2. If you tried to slow the plane up to three point in strong blustery 
conditions, you'll right the plane off. Its best to wheel it on with speed, 
speed is your friend and aids control, allows for sudden wind gradients, you 
can see where you are going with the lower attitude, the rudder works fine, the 
differential brakes will help, you try to keep the tail wheel up off the ground 
with forward elevator until the aircraft speed is insufficient and it lowers, 
the moment you feel it drop, just easy up and centre the rudder because the 
tail wheel steering will take over and be direct as long as you don't have 
springs.

The further example given was as follows. : "You are approaching to land and 
have a three knot crosswind. You have one wing down into the wind and enough 
rudder to hold the nose straight down the runway. As you slow down it takes 
more rudder to keep it straight. Everything looks fantastic, it’s going to be a 
great landing right up until the point that hard wired tail wheel touches the 
ground. In that instant the tail is going with that tail wheel that is cocked 
over at 25 degrees. Guess where the nose is going? You got it; every which way 
that you don’t want it to go."

One would say that "Its not going to be a great landing if you touch down tail 
wheel first? I've never landed my KR with the tail wheel anywhere near the 
ground. You keep it in the air as long as you can, when it finally settles at 
25 knots, as I mentioned just relax your feet. 25 knots is slow enough that 
nothing is going to happen and you have direct steering anyway, no springs 
messing it up.

Please watch the following videos if anyone has doubt of what is being said. 
The wind is plus 20 knots and blustery between the trees with a strong wind 
gradient, but with increased speed, not reduced speed to try to three point the 
aircraft, the pilot has full control, aces the touchdown, and can keep the 
aircraft straight with rudder and brakes until the tail settles at 15 knots 
ground speed with the 15 plus knots head and crosswind, the pilot even has time 
to wave to his friends and make them laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSJXKZhHkfQ

Also this video shows landing on Tarmac, short field approach on rough Grass, 
landing on Gravel in Greenland with 15knots plus from the right, Tarmac at 
StMary where the pilot was requested to expedite and approached at 100knots and 
touched down at 80 knots, you'll not do be able to do that trying to three 
point and on long runways you wheel it along with that tail off the ground 
until dropping the power just before the turn off, so again tai

KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

[Myron (Dan) Freeman]

Hi guys and girls;

Before the unfortunate accident with Ol' Blue I made the comment that every
time I thought that I had everything fixed I always seemed to find something
else to fix or change on the plane.

One of the things that I hadn't got around to was the tail wheel/rudder
interconnection. I knew It wasn't right but I wasn't sure how to fix it.

I did a search on the KR net and found 500 or more references to tail wheel,
most of which didn't concern my question but with so many, I could have
missed it.

Anyway, before I purchased Ol' Blue I did a walk around and discovered that
the rudder seemed to be disconnected from the tail wheel and the rudder
peddles as well. I also noticed that when sitting in the pilot seat and
working the rudder peddles that the rudder did not move but the tail wheel
did, which helped explain why the previous owner used the brakes to keep the
plane straight during takeoff and landing, something that my instructor told
me never to do, your instructor may differ. 

So I knew something was not right and that I would have to do something
about it after the purchase. 

Well it was a simple fix, the tail wheel springs were drawn too tight and
the rudder cables were limp so I added extensions and that took care of that
 The rudder and tail wheel worked together in unison.

I encountered problems during takeoff and landing with the plane wanting to
drift left even with no crosswind and after checking the wheel alignment I
discovered that the wheels were misaligned to the left by several inches
(measured at a 10 foot distance) and were toed-in, this I am told is not
good, if anything they should be toed-out slightly.

Anyway, after correcting the wheel alignment the plane taxied straight and
true but after several harrowing takeoffs and landings in mild crosswind
conditions I knew that something else was wrong with it.

I have had a lot of time to think through the problem since the accident and
I noted that I had the same problem with the real plane as I did with my
X-Plane model. The conclusion was that when taking off or landing, until the
tail wheel leaves the ground, it is steering the plane down the runway for
the most part and if you have a crosswind you need to use rudder to
counteract the crosswind, but when you do, the tail wheel also turns and
steers you sideways which can result in a dangerous condition. So what to do
about it?

X-Plane continues to evolve and new features are added all the time and
recently a fully controllable tail wheel has been added, that is you can set
it up to behave anyway you want it to from full castering to locked straight
for takeoff or anything in between. So I said let the experimenting begin
and see what works best especially in a crosswind. Using X-plane is much
safer and quicker than using a test plane like Ol' Blue.

Now I already know how a tail dragger reacts when the tail wheel and rudder
are linked together with no slack, I considered it dangerous in a crosswind
on pavement, grass is more forgiving.

I've tried a full castoring tail wheel in X-Plane and for me I thought it
was dangerous also.

A tail wheel that is fixed straight ahead is too hard to maneuver on
taxiways so that just leaves a castoring/lockable tail wheel or a
steerable/lockable tail wheel I believe, unless I've forgotten something.

So I decided to use X-Plane to see which method worked the best and safest.

With X-Plane I can set the tail wheel to lock straight ahead by pulling any
up elevator input during takeoff or landing. In the real plane you would
have to lock it manually with a pull cable. But having flown my KR-2 model
in X-plane for several hundred hours now, I find it much easier to land and
takeoff in crosswinds with a locked tail wheel when on pavement, grass as I
said is more forgiving even in X-Plane.

I don't know if there is anyone who is using a castering/locking tail wheel
on a KR but if there is I would like very much to hear their real world
input on this subject as well as those who use the plans style rudder/tail
wheel interconnection method. Your crosswind takeoff/landing technique would
be very informative to the rest of us.

Here is a link to some who have had experience with it. 

http://www.mombu
com/aviation/aviators/t-advice-on-flying-pitts-with-haigh-locking-tailwheel-1
68451.html

I could only find two brands of locking tail wheels, the Raven and the Haigh
but I'm sure some enterprising individual could design and build one more
appropriate for a KR and a whole lot cheaper and share the design with the
KR group if it was worth while.

Also, I have two X-Plane, version 9.31, KR-2 models available with this new
feature for anyone who wants to try them, or I can just send them to the
several dozen individuals who are already using the older models.

Oh, and the doctor said I can drive again and start walking on my left foot,
praise the Lord.

Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everybody. 

Regards, 

Myron (Dan) Freeman 

Indpl

KR> Tail wheel/rudder interconnection

[Dan Heath]

Merry Christmas to you also Dan, and that is good news on your recovery.

I have had the plans type and the breakaway tail wheel, both steerable, and 
have had no issues with either.  Of course, I like the breakaway that I have 
now, from Aviation Products, much better than any other that I have ever had.  
I think Larry and Mark L. both use this one.  When the tail wheel is on the 
ground, the plane goes where I point it, and has with all the different ones 
that I have used.  Before I had the breakaway, I used expansion springs to the 
wheel, but with the breakaway, I have it connected directly.

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There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has 
begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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I don't know if there is anyone who is using a castering/locking tail wheel
on a KR but if there is I would like very much to hear their real world
input on this subject as well as those who use the plans style rudder/tail
wheel interconnection method. Your crosswind takeoff/landing technique would
be very informative to the rest of us.