[libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Fridrich Strba
I know that I risk to become a piece of hamburger asking for this, but I
will try anyway :)

I would love to add for 4.2.1 a new feature (AbiWord import filter). The
only problem is that it would mean one new string AbiWord Document for
4.2.1. OTOH, there are already WordPerfect Document and many other
something Document strings, so I guess that even a fuzzy translation
could produce a good result. Moreover, this string would be visible only
if one lists the document types in the File-Open dialogue.

Please, advise, whether I am making myself a lot of enemies by
requesting this.

Cheers

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi,

I support inclusion of this new feature and there is no big issue since
there will be enough time to localize it for 4.2.1.
My question is: why not into 4.2.0? We have 3 day to translate and 1 string
is not a nightmare.

Lp, m.


2014/1/16 Fridrich Strba fridr...@libreoffice.org

 I know that I risk to become a piece of hamburger asking for this, but I
 will try anyway :)

 I would love to add for 4.2.1 a new feature (AbiWord import filter). The
 only problem is that it would mean one new string AbiWord Document for
 4.2.1. OTOH, there are already WordPerfect Document and many other
 something Document strings, so I guess that even a fuzzy translation
 could produce a good result. Moreover, this string would be visible only
 if one lists the document types in the File-Open dialogue.

 Please, advise, whether I am making myself a lot of enemies by
 requesting this.

 Cheers

 F.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Fridrich Strba
Martin,

On 16/01/14 17:36, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
 I support inclusion of this new feature and there is no big issue since
 there will be enough time to localize it for 4.2.1.
 My question is: why not into 4.2.0? We have 3 day to translate and 1
 string is not a nightmare.

You motivated me and I found enough of reviews to push it to 4-2-0 too.
So yes, there is the string AbiWord Document that needs to be
translated for 4.2.0.

Thanks a lot for your magnanimity

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Fridrich,
Please coordinate with Cloph too because we need to have the string in
Pootle, so make sure he'll be able to update the template.
Cheers
Sophie
GSM
Le 16 janv. 2014 20:50, Fridrich Strba fridr...@libreoffice.org a écrit
:

 Martin,

 On 16/01/14 17:36, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
  I support inclusion of this new feature and there is no big issue since
  there will be enough time to localize it for 4.2.1.
  My question is: why not into 4.2.0? We have 3 day to translate and 1
  string is not a nightmare.

 You motivated me and I found enough of reviews to push it to 4-2-0 too.
 So yes, there is the string AbiWord Document that needs to be
 translated for 4.2.0.

 Thanks a lot for your magnanimity

 F.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Andras Timar
Dear Fridrich,

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Fridrich Strba
fridr...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Martin,

 On 16/01/14 17:36, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
 I support inclusion of this new feature and there is no big issue since
 there will be enough time to localize it for 4.2.1.
 My question is: why not into 4.2.0? We have 3 day to translate and 1
 string is not a nightmare.

 You motivated me and I found enough of reviews to push it to 4-2-0 too.
 So yes, there is the string AbiWord Document that needs to be
 translated for 4.2.0.

 Thanks a lot for your magnanimity


Content of value xml:lang=x-default tag is not extracted for
translation, you need to use xml:lang=en-US. Same applies to all of
your exotic filters. So actually you did not add a new string for
translation. But you may want to enable translation for all of these
FooBar Document strings which exist under
filter/source/config/fragments/filters.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Andras Timar
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Sophie Gautier
gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Fridrich,
 Please coordinate with Cloph too because we need to have the string in
 Pootle, so make sure he'll be able to update the template.

Not every developer is as nice as Fridrich ;) so despite he actually
did not add a new string, others did, so update of pot files is
necessary anyway.

I see changes in the following files:
cui/uiconfig/ui.pot
dictionaries/pt_BR/dialog.pot
sc/source/ui/src.pot
sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui.pot
sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui.pot
sfx2/uiconfig/ui.pot
sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui.pot

Most of the changes are just re-ordering controls, so strings did not
change actually. The are some real changes, too.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Sophie Gautier
Le 16 janv. 2014 21:28, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Sophie Gautier
 gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Fridrich,
  Please coordinate with Cloph too because we need to have the string in
  Pootle, so make sure he'll be able to update the template.

 Not every developer is as nice as Fridrich ;) so despite he actually
 did not add a new string, others did, so update of pot files is
 necessary anyway.

 I see changes in the following files:
 cui/uiconfig/ui.pot
 dictionaries/pt_BR/dialog.pot
 sc/source/ui/src.pot
 sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui.pot
 sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui.pot
 sfx2/uiconfig/ui.pot
 sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui.pot

 Most of the changes are just re-ordering controls, so strings did not
 change actually. The are some real changes, too.

Thank you so much Andras!
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
2014/1/16 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com


 Content of value xml:lang=x-default tag is not extracted for
 translation, you need to use xml:lang=en-US. Same applies to all of
 your exotic filters. So actually you did not add a new string for
 translation. But you may want to enable translation for all of these
 FooBar Document strings which exist under
 filter/source/config/fragments/filters.


So I guess these filter strings will be localizable by 4.2.1, as a patch to
a bug that marks all these strings unlocalizable?

Thanks, m.

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[libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Bauer
Right... alle Jahre wieder, as the Germans like to sing at Christmas. 
Ran an Ubuntu upgrade (with the system language being Scottish Gaelic 
and above English in the list of language choices in Ubuntu). Installs 
LO 4.1.3.2 and suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and 
Gaelic has gone completely.


Anyone have any ideas of what went pearshaped and whether it's a LO 
problem (beyond the continuing lack of a decent post-installation 
language selection option) or an Ubuntu problem in case I need to file a 
bug?


Most fixes on the web just talk about setting the system-wide language 
settings.


Cheers

Michael

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu

2014-01-16 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote:
 Right... alle Jahre wieder, as the Germans like to sing at Christmas. Ran an
 Ubuntu upgrade (with the system language being Scottish Gaelic and above
 English in the list of language choices in Ubuntu). Installs LO 4.1.3.2 and
 suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and Gaelic has gone
 completely.

Hmm...

 Anyone have any ideas of what went pearshaped and whether it's a LO problem
 (beyond the continuing lack of a decent post-installation language selection
 option) or an Ubuntu problem in case I need to file a bug?

It sounds like you installed LibreOffice via an Ubuntu repo, in which
case this sounds like it would be an upgrade-related bug for
Canonical/Ubuntu to handle.

Cheers,
--R

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Fridrich Strba
Hello,

On 16/01/14 21:46, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
 So I guess these filter strings will be localizable by 4.2.1, as a patch
 to a bug that marks all these strings unlocalizable?

Ouch, I did not realize that thing since ages. The WordPerfect filter
for instance is there since 2004/2005 :)

Now in that directory, there are several zillions of files that have the
x-default as xml:lang. The question is whether I simply change each
prop oor:name=UIName to have value xml:lang=en-US. If that is
the case, I will file the bug today and provide patch to master and file
it to gerrit for 4.2.1

Please, advise,

F.




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Fridrich Strba
Andras,

On 16/01/14 21:18, Andras Timar wrote:
 Content of value xml:lang=x-default tag is not extracted for
 translation, you need to use xml:lang=en-US. Same applies to all of
 your exotic filters. So actually you did not add a new string for
 translation. But you may want to enable translation for all of these
 FooBar Document strings which exist under
 filter/source/config/fragments/filters.

Could you check in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7491 whether that is
what we want? Not sure what to do with ui strings that only say
Microsoft Visio, how localizable that should be. OTOH, I would not be
surprised if for some languages it would be Микрософт Визио.

Please, advise

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] A little tiny new string for 4.2.1???

2014-01-16 Thread Andras Timar
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Fridrich Strba
fridr...@libreoffice.org wrote:
 Andras,

 On 16/01/14 21:18, Andras Timar wrote:
 Content of value xml:lang=x-default tag is not extracted for
 translation, you need to use xml:lang=en-US. Same applies to all of
 your exotic filters. So actually you did not add a new string for
 translation. But you may want to enable translation for all of these
 FooBar Document strings which exist under
 filter/source/config/fragments/filters.

 Could you check in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7491 whether that is
 what we want? Not sure what to do with ui strings that only say
 Microsoft Visio, how localizable that should be. OTOH, I would not be
 surprised if for some languages it would be Микрософт Визио.

 Please, advise


Yes, I think we can allow localization/transliteration for all filter
names. It is up to the translators to keep the proper names. I trust
the community. :)

To translators: From the technical point of view, 42 new strings will
appear for translation. 41 of them have been in the source code for
ages, but were not localizable. Nothing will change, if you leave them
alone, they will be in English as before. The +1 new string is
AbiWord Document.

Best regards,
Andras

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