Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: Picking up on this thread again about the missing langpack for Gaelic in LO on Ubuntu. I've just upgraded to 14.04.1 but my LO is still in English. I take it then we still haven't made it onto a release? Anyone have any ideas when this'll come? for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (trusty), we are way past feature freeze, so unlikely So watch the ppa... ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi Michael, *, On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: I'm not sure what they are and how they'd help. I've googled them (I take it you did mean Personal Package Archives) and I'm guessing this may be relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them/40351#40351 but I still have no idea how that helps with my LO problem You want gd package for LO of ubuntu packages. The official packager for ubuntu (Björn) already told that for official repo it's too late since it was already in feature freeze, but instead he'll try his best to add it to the ppa he also maintains. And indeed in package details of https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-2/+packages for libreoffice-l10n pagage there is libreoffice-l10n-gd office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package in the list of built packages. So if you want gd package/localization with ubuntu's LO packages → use the ppa. 4.2.6 rc2 is available with gd language. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Picking up on this thread again about the missing langpack for Gaelic in LO on Ubuntu. I've just upgraded to 14.04.1 but my LO is still in English. I take it then we still haven't made it onto a release? Anyone have any ideas when this'll come? Michael 09/04/2014 12:14, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:29:22AM +0100, Michael Bauer wrote: The upcoming Ubuntu release reminded me of this - did this get resolved in the end? As Rene wrote -- its in Debian, so will be in upcoming Ubuntu releases too. As for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (trusty), we are way past feature freeze, so unlikely: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule Ill see if something will be possible for e.g. the PPA. Best, Bjoern -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon Fòn: +44-141-946 4437 Facs: +44-141-945 2701 *Tha Gàidhlig aig a' choimpiutair agad, siuthad, feuch e!* Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting, geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net http://www.iGaidhlig.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Rene, In all the time I've been localizing, there wasn't a visible hint anywhere that I need to check *debian* to make sure that LO will be available on *ubuntu* in our language. slaps forehead, silly me. Add to that that I'm a localizer first and foremost and couldn't program a dot dancing across the screen to save my life, I wouldn't dream of assuming to know where to look to make sure the right switches have been flicked. I could give you a good dozen examples where I made an assumption like that which turned out to be *sensible* but not correct. Like the assumption Launchpad communicates with upstream projects... So while I appreciate that it's a good thing if people try finding the answer to obvious questions, I would urge a little bit more forbearance towards non-developer localizers asking about technical stuff. Coming to the links... thank you. But what do they mean? Exact hits Package libreoffice-l10n-gd * jessie (testing) https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libreoffice-l10n-gd (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.1.5-2: all * sid (unstable) https://packages.debian.org/sid/libreoffice-l10n-gd (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.1.5-2: all * experimental (rc-buggy) https://packages.debian.org/experimental/libreoffice-l10n-gd (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.2.3~rc3-1: all I honestly haven't got the faintest idea if that means 'it'll be there' or 'it's already there' or 'you need to fix stuff' cause all I can see is 'testing, unstable, buggy' Michael 09/04/2014 06:34, sgrìobh Rene Engelhard: What would be if you actually checked yourself? http://packages.debian.org/libreoffice-l10n-gd http://packages.ubuntu.com/libreoffice-l10n-gd Regards, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:14:59AM +0100, Michael Bauer wrote: In all the time I've been localizing, there wasn't a visible hint anywhere that I need to check *debian* to make sure that LO will be available on *ubuntu* in our language. slaps forehead, silly me. Add to that that I'm Ignoring the fact (or having no knowledge of the obvious, even stated by themselves) that Ubuntu is based on Debian doesn't help in either case, either. Especially as Bjoern said they just hip what we (== Debian) ship. Coming to the links... thank you. But what do they mean? Exact hits Package libreoffice-l10n-gd * [1]jessie (testing) (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.1.5-2: all * [2]sid (unstable) (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.1.5-2: all * [3]experimental (rc-buggy) (localization): office productivity suite -- Scottish_gaelic language package 1:4.2.3~rc3-1: all I honestly haven't got the faintest idea if that means 'it'll be there' or 'it's already there' or 'you need to fix stuff' cause all I can see is 'testing, unstable, buggy' it's already there (ok, not in a released, stable one, but thatwon't happen for some months to come) Regards, Rene -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
09/04/2014 10:21, sgrìobh Rene Engelhard: Ignoring the fact (or having no knowledge of the obvious, even stated by themselves) that Ubuntu is based on Debian doesn't help in either case, either. Especially as Bjoern said they just hip what we (== Debian) ship. Many localizers are a bit like Sid the Sloth... we see a po file, we translate it. It's one of the greatest fallacies of open source localization projects that translator = localizer = developer. Most 'just want to translate into their language' to get a certain program in their language. All these things may be obvious to developers who have been doing this for a long time but there's no 'map' out there for 'just localizers' to explain all these pitfalls (like a noob localizer has any clue about the LO/OO rift and what the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu and Canonical is; that's like me assuming you know that lenition is *obviously* blocked after a historical but no longer visible dental) and that leads to a great amount of wasted translation work gathering mould in the dark corners of the web. Assuming that localizers should (or will) on the whole learn about these things falls under 'nice but probably not going to happen' so anyone who wants these localizations to work effectively ought to consider 'translators' and not 'developers' as the target audience when composing localization documentation. Translators are not stupid or don't care (why else would we be translating for free otherwise...) but if their primary skill was development stuff, they'd be developers, not translators. Would be a good thing if we accepted that different folk have different strengths and weaknesses and to try and make those work together smoothly. it's already there (ok, not in a released, stable one, but thatwon't happen for some months to come) Thank you Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:29:22AM +0100, Michael Bauer wrote: The upcoming Ubuntu release reminded me of this - did this get resolved in the end? As Rene wrote -- its in Debian, so will be in upcoming Ubuntu releases too. As for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (trusty), we are way past feature freeze, so unlikely: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule Ill see if something will be possible for e.g. the PPA. Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hiya The upcoming Ubuntu release reminded me of this - did this get resolved in the end? Michael 13/02/2014 07:04, sgrìobh Rene Engelhard: Hi, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:26:27PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 09:06:03PM +, Michael Bauer wrote: Why is our locale (gd) missing? Ubuntu essentially ships the same l10n as debian does: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=rules;h=75ccdc460060b46130c47d1fe8439a3eb02e64bc;hb=be19aeb50a1186ed24b01537453a3beb0d917f1d#l795 Usually both of us consider shipping a locale when it is reasonably complete. ... if we notice.;) As gd seems reasonably complete: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gd/ Ah, 100% in 4.1.x and 4.2.x.:) we might add it to the shipped locales. @Rene: Any objections here? Nope. Regards, Rene -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon Fòn: +44-141-946 4437 Facs: +44-141-945 2701 *Tha Gàidhlig aig a' choimpiutair agad, siuthad, feuch e!* Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting, geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net http://www.iGaidhlig.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
I apologise for lapsing into Sumerian ;) but - how can you file a bug on something you don't realise you have to file a bug on? Michael 13/02/2014 12:24, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: Its too rare for that and automation is tricky. Just filing a proper bug report is a lot better. Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
At a casual glance, Burmese and Sidama are in the same position - hard to tell, since nobody has said what the cutoff % actually is Michael 13/02/2014 12:24, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: Its too rare for that and automation is tricky. Just filing a proper bug report is a lot better. Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
I actually wonder why the Debian rules file needs to explicitly list the languages to be built, was it so that en-US is the first one as the comment above it says, or are there other reasons? Regards, Khaled On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:38:17PM +, Michael Bauer wrote: At a casual glance, Burmese and Sidama are in the same position - hard to tell, since nobody has said what the cutoff % actually is Michael 13/02/2014 12:24, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: Its too rare for that and automation is tricky. Just filing a proper bug report is a lot better. Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi, On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 02:56:39PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: I actually wonder why the Debian rules file needs to explicitly list the languages to be built, was it so that en-US is the first one as the comment above it says, or are there other reasons? 1) en-US has to be the first. at least had to be in the past for configure to actualy do the right thing. 2) we want tzpo have a choice what to include and what not. that means not ALL languages which mightz be too less transalted ans increase the build time/uplload time/... 3) we need a list for packaging it up, do the package descriptions from etc. We d*doÜ have custom rules which need to iterate over all the languages and do stuff. (And we have rules to fix upstream brokeness up and to merge ca and ca_XV. Wouldn't be possible or would be more complex with ALL there. 4) historical reasons :) Regards, Rene P.S.: Why on earth is libreoffice-l10n even in CC? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi Björn, *, 2014-01-17 11:30 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 05:02:28PM -0800, Robinson Tryon wrote: Installs LO 4.1.3.2 and suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and Gaelic has gone completely. LibreOffice versions from the PPA only have 12 l10ns as there is no space for more on those builders. This should be solved soon with: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/Uum7YEvSDBT I haven't seen any announcement on this subject, so -- any news? :) Best regards, Mihkel Estonian l10n team -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi Mihkel, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 06:17:47PM +0200, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/Uum7YEvSDBT I haven't seen any announcement on this subject, so -- any news? :) Its solved with LibreOffice 4.2.0 both in the PPAs and in the archive. We will build 4.2.x with full 10n in the PPAs too. See for example: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3894742/+listing-archive-extra Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
2014-02-12 18:34 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com: Hi Mihkel, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 06:17:47PM +0200, Mihkel Tőnnov wrote: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/Uum7YEvSDBT I haven't seen any announcement on this subject, so -- any news? :) Its solved with LibreOffice 4.2.0 both in the PPAs and in the archive. We will build 4.2.x with full 10n in the PPAs too. See for example: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3894742/+listing-archive-extra Oh, awesome :) Thanks! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Why is our locale (gd) missing? Michael 12/02/2014 16:34, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: Its solved with LibreOffice 4.2.0 both in the PPAs and in the archive. We will build 4.2.x with full 10n in the PPAs too. See for example: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3894742/+listing-archive-extra Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 09:06:03PM +, Michael Bauer wrote: Why is our locale (gd) missing? Ubuntu essentially ships the same l10n as debian does: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=rules;h=75ccdc460060b46130c47d1fe8439a3eb02e64bc;hb=be19aeb50a1186ed24b01537453a3beb0d917f1d#l795 Usually both of us consider shipping a locale when it is reasonably complete. As gd seems reasonably complete: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gd/ we might add it to the shipped locales. @Rene: Any objections here? Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
12/02/2014 21:26, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: Ubuntu essentially ships the same l10n as debian does: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=rules;h=75ccdc460060b46130c47d1fe8439a3eb02e64bc;hb=be19aeb50a1186ed24b01537453a3beb0d917f1d#l795 Usually both of us consider shipping a locale when it is reasonably complete. As gd seems reasonably complete: Errr... I should think so too, the UI has been at 100% for years... https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gd/ we might add it to the shipped locales. Might? Sorry, I realise you're clearly being helpful (no sarcasm implied or intended) but if the 'might' implies 'we might not' then I'm a bit perplexed. Either there is a cutoff (something in the 75% regions seems reasonable) or there isn't. Since when did OS software get so linguisticall restrictive? Especially since there seems to be close to zero quality control in terms of what Ubuntu pushes out in terms of its OS localizations. Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hi, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:04:21PM +, Michael Bauer wrote: Might? Sorry, I realise you're clearly being helpful (no sarcasm implied or intended) but if the 'might' implies 'we might not' then I'm a bit perplexed. Either there is a cutoff (something in the 75% regions seems reasonable) or there isn't. Since when did OS software get so linguisticall restrictive? Especially since there seems to be close to zero quality control in terms of what Ubuntu pushes out in terms of its OS localizations. There is not reason to get aggressive here. ;) The situation is as follows: - I would rather not diff from Debian to much on the set of l10ns, there is little reason for a good l10n not also being build on Debian too - Im not the Debian maintainer -- thats really Renes call So Id like to see Renes reply and only if he denies it for some reason that I consider unjustified, I will do a Diff to Debian. I consider that unlikely as Rene is quite a reasonable guy(*). Best, Bjoern (*) However, it _might_ be that Rene would prefer a bug report on Debian over rambling on a mailing list. Just like I do usually FWIW -- it makes it easier to keep track of the multitude the little things to take care of. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Hey Bjoern, 12/02/2014 22:19, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: There is not reason to get aggressive here.;) I was mostly exasperated, sorry if it came over aggressive, it wasn't meant to be. The decentral nature of open source software may be part of its strength but for localizers, especially those of a small to tiny locale and/or team with loads of translation expertise but little in the way of developer skills, it's like trying to navigate a heavily mined swamp semi-blindfolded in deep fog. You start off with the (reasonable to my mind) assumption that you translate and then 'stuff happens'. So you knuckle down and translate. But you then suddently find out everything is not as it seems. Like finding out the Launchpad doesn't coordinate with upstream or that it's not possible to purge bad translations or globally block rogue translators. That you don't just have to translate the WordPress po files but also have to build your own packs. Or in this case here, that assuming that since LO is bundled with Ubuntu, that it would also come up in the language of choice - and once we got past that point, that even a 100% complete localization does not necessarily result in an automatic inclusion because you are supposed to know (how, I'm not sure) you have to coordinate with Debian somehow. How many other locales are similarly excluded I wonder? In a sense I'm not surprised we get so many dormant projects for lesser-resourced locales - or indeed a complete lack of l10n efforts from certain corners. The lack of l10n coordination is a real problem and with the proliferation of platforms, it's probably going to get a lot worse. That's why I was kind of throwing my hands up in despair. Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 05:02:28PM -0800, Robinson Tryon wrote: Installs LO 4.1.3.2 and suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and Gaelic has gone completely. LibreOffice versions from the PPA only have 12 l10ns as there is no space for more on those builders. This should be solved soon with: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/Uum7YEvSDBT Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
What changed? I used to get Gaelic via the PPA as far as I remember. Did they really axe all but 12 locales *recently* in that case? Michael 17/01/2014 09:30, sgrìobh Bjoern Michaelsen: LibreOffice versions from the PPA only have 12 l10ns as there is no space for more on those builders. This should be solved soon with: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/Uum7YEvSDBT Best, Bjoern -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
Right... alle Jahre wieder, as the Germans like to sing at Christmas. Ran an Ubuntu upgrade (with the system language being Scottish Gaelic and above English in the list of language choices in Ubuntu). Installs LO 4.1.3.2 and suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and Gaelic has gone completely. Anyone have any ideas of what went pearshaped and whether it's a LO problem (beyond the continuing lack of a decent post-installation language selection option) or an Ubuntu problem in case I need to file a bug? Most fixes on the web just talk about setting the system-wide language settings. Cheers Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO on Ubuntu
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org wrote: Right... alle Jahre wieder, as the Germans like to sing at Christmas. Ran an Ubuntu upgrade (with the system language being Scottish Gaelic and above English in the list of language choices in Ubuntu). Installs LO 4.1.3.2 and suddenly I'm back to having LO in English (USA) and Gaelic has gone completely. Hmm... Anyone have any ideas of what went pearshaped and whether it's a LO problem (beyond the continuing lack of a decent post-installation language selection option) or an Ubuntu problem in case I need to file a bug? It sounds like you installed LibreOffice via an Ubuntu repo, in which case this sounds like it would be an upgrade-related bug for Canonical/Ubuntu to handle. Cheers, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
