[lace] re crochet threads

2003-10-27 Thread Laceandbits
According to Brenda Paternoster's Threads for Lace Coat's #40 is 23 wraps per 
cm so the equivalent in DMC is #50.  DMC #40 is 22wpc.  

Jacquie

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Re: [lace] CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Lorelei and Rose-Marie and all Others,
This different ways to make the half-stich comes from the different pillows.
People who start with a roler-pillow was told to do itin one way I think CT
and the others with the flat pillow and unhooded bobbins the other way
round. Meanwhile it is no longer as strict as it was and those who still
have some experience know when they first must make a twist.
Greetings
Ilske

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RE: [lace] CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Lorelei Halley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
All British lacemakers (as far as I can tell) do half stitch CT.  Most, but
no all, western Europeans do it CT.  Most, but not all, central Europeans do
it TC.  Nearly all eastern Europeans to it TC.

I took a Skansk (Sweden) workshop from Marji Suhm a couple of years ago, and
it's done TC, called open method because pairs are left hanging without
the twist that closes them off.  The first day of the workshop happened to
be all whole and half stitch, and I didn't have a whole lot of trouble
turning things around in my head.  The second day included patterns with
cloth stitch (CTC), and I couldn't do it!  I had a terrible time starting a
stich with a cross after getting my brain turned around for the TC stitches!

Robin P.
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http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com 

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Re: [lace] footstool

2003-10-27 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi to the Rock Band,

I use a footstand which was originally used for the guitar playing comfort -
I have had it for more years than I care to remember - even longer than I've
been doing lace! - so haven't a clue where I obtained it.  But I should
imagine most musical suppliers stores have some

It is adjustable - so it can be just a couple of inches in height, or up to
about 7-8 inches - which would probably cover most of our requirements.   I
usually also rest the pillow against a table edge, so there is a slight
slope, but that depends on the pillow - the really huge ones I tend to lay
on the table, with a polystyrene-bead support underneath.

Hope this helps, if only just a little

Carol - back home in Suffolk, after four days in Hereford where daughter,
partner, and grandson now live!   We certainly have missed them, so will be
visiting again!


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From: alice howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Haddad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] footstool


 At 04:59 AM 10/26/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 Some time ago there was reference made to having your feet on a footstool
 while making lace.  Would anyone have one that they could  send me the
 dimensions for?
 Rose-Marie

 Hi,

 The size depends on the length of your legs and the height of your chair.
 The idea of a footstool is to make the lap flat.  I am short and in most
 chairs my lap angles downwards if my feet are on the floor.  To hold
 something in my lap, I need a foot support to level my lap.  At times,
 only 2-3 inches is enough to be comfortable.  Sometimes more is better.
 Chairs are different heights.

 The commercial folding footrest I have is 4 high.  I use it in classes
 where I cannot control the choice of chairs.  However, sometimes it seems
 just a bit high.

 Some types of pillows are designed to be held on the lap.  Some stands
have
 a support for the far side and the near side of the pillow is on the lap.
 When using these, a footrest is helpful or necessary.  When using a pillow
 stand that supports the pillow completely, a footrest is only for comfort
 but does not affect the pillow.

 At this time, I have only one pillow that is comfortable to use on my lap.
 The others are too large.  Often I have the front of a pillow resting on
my
 lap.  At home, I solved the height problem by putting a very small cushion
 on my lap and resting the pillow on that.  It made the pillow the right
 height
 for comfortable working and close enough to my eyes to see what I was
doing.

 You might think about a 3 height for a footrest.  (Unless you are very,
 very short.)

 This is all personal opinion, of course.  What do the rest of you
lacemakers
 say?  I'm sure I'm not the only lacemaker with short legs.

 Happy lacing,

 Alice in Oregon - A week of record warm temps before winter.  Nice!
 Oregon Country Lacemakers
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Re: [lace] Romanian Point Lace - URL

2003-10-27 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Dear Sulochona,

Your work is beautiful! You have inspired me. I don't do needlelace, but have
had a burning passion to do Romanian Point. I probably won't get to it in this
life, but who's to know later...

Happy Lacemaking
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA

Sulochona Chaudhuri wrote:

 http://community.webshots.com/user/sulochona

 ( click on needlelace)


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[lace] Re: Varigated threads

2003-10-27 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 03:30 AM, Jane wrote:

I imagine I'll have to make my own varigated to get
the effect I'm after but I'm wondering if there are some thicker threads 
(I
think I'm using #80 tatting cotton, it's downstairs) with a short change 
in
color.  And what does everybody else think about varigated thread?  I love
the effect Sulochona got using varigated for the crocheted tape in her
Romania Point Lace piece!

I agree with you, short changes generally look best, especially for BL.  On 
the whole the hand dyed embroidery skeins, such as the Caron threads, often 
have the shorter changes.
Some of the reels/spools that come in varigated colours are:

DMC Special Dentelles (tatting cotton) changes in 12-15 inches (30 wraps/cm)
Oliver Twists machine cotton changes after about 4 inches  (28 wraps/cm)
YLI colours change in about 6 inches (25 wraps/cm)
Superior Threads Perfect Quilter also change in about 6 inches (23 wraps/cm)
Empress Mills Soft finish cotton changes after about 2 inches (14 wraps/cm)
If you can find several different, but similar varigated colours it's 
possible to get a very subtle colour change across the width of a yardage 
lace, otherwise use mainly plain colours and use the varigated for the 
worker pair in a continuous trail or headside fan.

Brenda

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[lace] variegated thread

2003-10-27 Thread Janice Blair
 Robin wrote:
I used variegated thread for my Chrysanthemum lace class with Cathy
Belleville, and it worked beautifully!  I used silk floss (Caron
Waterlillies, Thread Gatherer Silk 'n' Colors, and Gloriana).  
 
Just curious, what size threads do these embroidery thread compare with?
Janice Blair

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[lace] Aemilia Ars

2003-10-27 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
Dear Bianca Rosa --  The article I mentioned is a two-page piece entitled
Aemilia-Ars Lace. It appears in a little volume called The Gentle Needle
Arts, pages 19-20. This is not quite a magazine, but not exactly a book,
either.  It was published in 1977 by Marshall Cavendish Books Ltd, 58
Compton Street, London W1V 5PA. The article was surely written for the lace
maker, not the lace scholar. The illustration is really excellent, and
would safely guide the ignorant needle from beginning to end of a sample
piece of A-A lace. Of course, it's shown in heavy thread, looks as if it
might be DMC perle #5, but rather ropy. Done in a really fine lace thread,
like 120/2 for instance, it would make a tiny, but exquisite, motif.

My scanner is currently on the fritz, but I am having it repaired. When
it's fixed, I could scan that article to you and send it as e-mail.

Yes, I do read Italian (or I like to think that I do!). I have read I
Promessi Sposi easily; and have gotten around in Tuscany, Milan, Lago di
Garda (where, contrary to popular superstition, NOT everybody speaks
English) reasonably well: in Florence they thought that I came from Rome;
in Milano somebody thought that I came from Florence... but reading a
newspaper in Italian has me completely floored; the lingo, the rhythms, the
I-don't-know-what simply will not penetrate my brain.

But I am so curious: you write that you have a suggestion for me, if I
can read Italian. What is it?

Aurelia  

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[lace] Fwd: variegated threads

2003-10-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Another addendum to the thread; obviously, people's experiences with 
it are quite, er... variegated g

Begin forwarded message:

From: The Browns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon Oct 27, 2003  05:55:41 US/Eastern
To: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: varigated threads
Dear Tamara,  Maderia Cotona (was tanne) is made in varigated threads 
30 and 50, as was DMC 80 as Jean says.  The Turkish thread is a lot 
softer than DMC.  When Veronica Sorenson taught us Schneeberger we 
always wound the variagated evenly onto the bobbins, so that the 
colours matched as the bobbins in the pair lay together.  The weavers 
were always plain, as were the outer edge pairs since they get 
exchanged in the working.   I use varigated  wound just as they come 
with a plain weaver to get a completely random effect.   Maybe you 
could pass these  thoughts around your fellow lacemakers across the 
'pond'.  Hope you will  have as sunny a day as we have here in 
E.Herts98 miles to Stansted airport)  best wishes   Sheila
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA (where it rained all night and all day, after 
more than a week of sunshine)
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace] Re: CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Monday, Oct 27, 2003, at 11:31 US/Eastern, Adele Shaak wrote:

I don't make lace using stitches but just twists and crosses
I do too! Just as, somehow, I managed to drift from the rh side fooside 
to lh side one, so did my thinking switched from cloth stitch to 
CTC when I wasn't looking g I wasn't aware of doing it, until I saw 
the net in PG described as half stitch and two twists; I sat there, 
in total fog, for a good while before it dawned on me that it was 
CTTT... :)

I find the CT notation both easier to comprehend and more 
comprehensive. It bypasses the confusion of the two whole stitches 
(CTC -- in UK, and CTCT -- elsewhere). It allows one to ignore the fact 
that, in some countries, CTT is called honecomb but roseground in 
others, while rose ground is sometimes called virgin ground. It 
makes tallies toe the line (TTC), and the turning stich/fixing 
stitch dilemma (CTTC and CTCTC, respectively) simple to explain. It 
can be applied to passing the gimp (though I still tend to lift the 
left, except when in Flanders) both the plain, and the in relief 
(raised)...

I know zero about 'puters but it seems to me that C  T are 
lacemaking's binary language :)
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace] variegated threads

2003-10-27 Thread TLChapmanQuilts
In a message dated 10/27/2003 5:16:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
also available in perle 5 cotton which would be thicker
still than the 80 cotton.
**
***

Valdani Threads (made in Romania) and Finca Threads (Presencia 
Hilaturas...made in Spain) also produce pearl/perle cottons in variegated colors.  
Valdani 
has several multi color shades in pearl 8  12 while Finca produces primarily 
monochromatic shades in sizes 8  12.  Valdani is a 3 ply, highly mercerized 
long staple pearl cotton.  Finca is a 2 ply, highly mercerized long staple perle 
cotton. 

Valdani also produces variegated cotton sewing threads in 35wt/3-ply and 
50wt/3-ply.

Please email me off list if you would like the link(s) to view some of the 
available colors.

There's sew much to be thankful for,
 
Tracy in NM

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[lace] RE: variegated threads

2003-10-27 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Jane and all,

You asked about variegated thread thicker than DMC 80. I don't know if

I have a ball of Manuela crochet cotton in a size 20 - quite a large ball
and it is variegated in pastel pinks/mauves/lemon shades.  I got it from a
secret pal years ago so I assume it is available in the US, although it
seems to be a Spanish? brand going by the label.

You can also get DMC Perle 5 and 8 in lots of variegated shades and I know
Linda McCrae does a lot of needle tatting using these threads.  It gives a
very nice effect and is definitely thicker than the Special Dentelles 80,
but depending on the result you want you may have to stiffen the bookmarks
as it is very soft.

Michelle Long
an Aussie living in Richards Bay, South Africa


Ian  Chelle Long
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Re: [lace] bookmarks

2003-10-27 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 27/10/2003 20:05:01 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 An easy way to slip a lace bookmark into a plastic sleeve is by folding a
 piece of thin card in half and cutting it along its length so that it is
 just slightly narrower but longer than the plastic sleeve. Place your lace
 between the folded card with just the top of the lace poking out at the top
 of the card. Slide this inside your plastic sleeve and whilst pinching the
 top of the lace through the plastic sleeve slowly carefully pull the card
 out of the plastic sleeve. Your lace should now be neatly inside without any
 distortion - as my students say - magic!
 Nicky   in a very cold Suffolk, but what a beautiful sunset we had.

This made me think about how I have always put lace into my bookmark sleeves 
- I grasp the sleeve by the sides, with one hand and 'pop' it open - ie 
squeeze it so that it opens up.

I then take the lace and put the end into the opening.  Then I push it up the 
opening with a plastic chopstick.

I used to use a pair of tweezers to graps the lace but on fine lace I found 
that this meant that I could rip or pull it.  Really cheap, plastic chopsticks 
have a blunt end which stops this from happening.

Regards

Liz Beecher
I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see 
what it's all about

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[lace-chat] Life, the Universe and Everything

2003-10-27 Thread Annette Gill
 in base 13 What is 6 x 9?  has the answer 42

Was it ever established whether Douglas Adams knew this when he wrote
Hitchiker?  I can't remember.

Regards,
Annette

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[lace-chat] Orange Mange

2003-10-27 Thread Annette Gill
 In my dialect, the a of orange actually sounds more like the o of 
 women, and the a in mange is like the ay in day... But there's another 
 problem: the stress on orange is on the first syllable, and mange is a 
 one-syllable word.

Yes, that's the way we'd say it in England too.

Annette

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[lace-chat] The tube

2003-10-27 Thread Annette Gill
My first trip to London ('68) I fell, *totally*, in love with the tube,
and especially with the little no-nonsense maps of it. 

It's hard now to imagine how revolutionary that map of Frank Pick's was when
it was introduced in - what, the 20s?  30s? I forget.  Having seen a
pre-Pick map of the tube, where the lines curved and followed the actual
path of the lines, I can see that a similar map of the modern-day tube, with
its 250 odd stations, would be a nightmare to follow.

Sometimes though, the map misleads you in your mental image of surface
London.  I've only just discovered that Tottenham Court Rd doesn't run
exactly north-south, as I have assumed for the past 30 years!  (On the tube
map it does.)

I used to love the tube when I came to London as a child - to me it was what
set London apart from every other town I'd ever visited.  I remember I used
to call Charing Cross station (actually, I think it's the one that is now
called Embankment) The Ear Drop Station, because it smelled exactly like the
drops I had to use to unblock my ears.   I still think it's a pretty
efficient way of travelling across London - though not at rush hour!  I
never had any trouble getting around - all you need to know is the line you
want, and whether it's northbound, southbound, eastbound or westbound.

The Moscow Metro IS pretty spectacular.  I spent one afternoon riding around
it, getting out at almost every station just to have a look at the
architecture.

Regards,
Annette in London

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Re: [lace-chat] The tube

2003-10-27 Thread Ruth Budge
I always find it most amusing that, when I come for a trip home to England, I
always get asked for help on the tube system from people who, judging by their
accents, have spent all their life travelling on it!!
It's also a source of pride that, because I've spent so long studying that
little map, I can always help them too!
Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

Annette Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and especially with the little
no-nonsense maps of it. 

It's hard now to imagine how revolutionary that map of Frank Pick's was when
it was introduced in - what, the 20s? 30s? I forget. Having seen a
pre-Pick map of the tube, where the lines curved and followed the actual
path of the lines, I can see that a similar map of the modern-day tube, with
its 250 odd stations, would be a nightmare to follow.



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Re: [lace-chat] rhyming words

2003-10-27 Thread David
  I would have thought mange rhymed with orange, doesn't it?
 
To me, the closest rhyme for orange is door hinge

Pam Dotson
Everett, WA  USA

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Martha Stweart's tips for red necks

2003-10-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: R.P.
Never take a beer to a job interview.
Always identify people in your yard before shooting at them.
It's considered tacky to take a cooler to church.
If you have to vacuum the bed it's time to change sheets.
Even if you're CERTAIN that you are included in the will ...it is still
considered tacky to drive a U-Haul to the funeral.
DINING OUT

When decanting wine, make sure that you tilt the paper cup and pour 
slowly
so as not to bruise the fruit of the vine.
If drinking directly from the bottle, always hold it with your fingers
covering the label.

ENTERTAINING IN YOUR HOME

A centerpiece for the table should NEVER be prepared by a taxidermist.
Do NOT allow the dog to eat at the table ... no matter how good his 
manners
are.

PERSONAL HYGIENE

While ears need to be cleaned regularly, this is a job that should done 
in
private using one's OWN truck keys.
Proper use of toiletries can forestall bathing for several days.
Dirt  grease under the fingernails is a social no-no, as it tends to
detract from a woman's jewelry  alter the taste of finger foods.

DATING (OUTSIDE THE FAMILY)

Always offer to bait your date's hook, especially on the 1st date.
Let her know you're interested: I've been wantin' to go out with you 
since
I read that stuff on the bathroom wall 2 years ago.
Establish with her parents what time she is expected back. Some will say
10:00 PM; others might say Monday. If the latter is the answer it is 
the
man's responsibility to get her to school on time.

THEATER ETIQUETTE

Crying babies should be taken to the lobby  picked up as soon as the 
movie
has ended.
Refrain from talking to characters on the screen. Tests have proven they
cannot hear you.

WEDDINGS

Livestock is usually a poor choice for a wedding gift.
Kissing the bride for more than 5 seconds may get you shot.
For the groom, at least, rent a tux. A leisure suit with a cummerbund  
a
clean bowling shirt can create a tacky appearance.
Though uncomfortable, say yes to socks  shoes for this special 
occasion.

DRIVING ETIQUETTE

Dim your headlights for approaching vehicles; even if the gun is loaded 
and
the deer is in sight.
When approaching a four-way stop, the vehicle with the largest tires 
ALWAYS
has the right of way.
Never tow another car using panty hose and duct tape.
When sending your wife down the road with a gas can, it is not polite 
to ask
her to bring back beer too.
Do NOT lay rubber while traveling in a funeral procession.

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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Mothers

2003-10-27 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: R.P.


The following are answers given by school-age children to each of the 
given
questions:

1.  Why did God make mothers?
She's the only one who knows where the scotch tape is.
Think about it, it was the best way to get more people.
Mostly to clean the house.
To help us out of there when we were getting born.
2.  How did God make mothers?
He used dirt, just like for the rest of us.
Magic plus super powers and a lot of stirring.
God made my mom just the same like he made me. He just used bigger 
parts.

3.  Why did God give you your mother and not some other mom?
We're related.
God knew she likes me a lot more than other people's moms like me.
4.  What ingredients are mothers made of?
God makes mothers out of clouds and angel hair and everything nice in 
the
world and one dab of mean.
They had to get their start from men's bones. Then they mostly use 
string.
I think.

5.  What kind of little girl was your mom?
My mom has always been my mom and none of that other stuff.
I don't know because I wasn't there, but my guess would be pretty bossy.
They say she used to be nice.
6.  How did your mom meet your dad?
Mom was working in a store and dad was shoplifting.
7.  What did Mom need before Daddy could marry her?
His last name.
She had to know his background. Like is he a crook? Does he get drunk on
beer? Does he make at least $800 a year? Did he say NO to drugs and YES 
to
chores.

8.  Why did your Mom marry your Dad?
My dad makes the best spaghetti in the world. And my mom eats a lot.
She got too old to do anything else with him.
My grandma says that mom didn't have her thinking cap on.
9.  What makes a real woman?
It means you have to be really bossy without looking bossy.
10.  Who's the boss at your house?
Mom doesn't want to be boss, but she has to because dads such a 
goofball.
Mom. You can tell by room inspection. She sees the stuff under the bed.
I guess Mom is, but only because she has a lot more to do than dad.

11.  What's the difference between moms and dads?
Moms work at work and work at home, and dads just got to work at work.
Moms know how to talk to teachers without scaring them.
Dads are taller and stronger, but moms have all the real power 'cause 
that's
who you gotta ask if you want to sleep over at your friend's.

12.  What does your mom do in her spare time?
Mothers don't do spare time.
To hear her tell it, she pays bills all day long.
13.  What's the difference between moms and grandmas?
About 30 years.
You can always count on grandmothers for candy. Sometimes moms don't 
even
have bread on them!

14.  Describe the world's greatest mom.
She would make broccoli taste like ice cream!
The greatest mom in the world wouldn't make me kiss my fat aunts!
She'd always be smiling and keep her opinions to herself.
15.  Is anything about your mom perfect?
Her teeth are perfect, but she bought them from the dentist.
Her casserole recipes. But we hate them.
Just her children.
16.  What would it take to make your mom perfect?
On the inside she's already perfect. Outside, I think some kind of 
plastic
surgery.
Diet. You know, her hair. I'd diet, maybe blue.

17.  If you could change one thing about your mom, what would it be?
She has this weird thing about me keeping my room clean. I'd get rid of
that.
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace-chat] California Fires

2003-10-27 Thread Jenny Rees
Thanks for the web site Patsy. It brings back memories of Januaury here.

Our thoughts are with all affected by the fires

Jenny Rees
Canberra, Australia

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Re: [lace-chat] rhyming words

2003-10-27 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 27/10/2003 22:10:51 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 To me, the closest rhyme for orange is door hinge
 
 Pam Dotson
 Everett, WA  USA

Now I'm having nightmares about the poem which might include orange and door 
hinge - wooe!!!

Regards

Liz Beecher
I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see 
what it's all about

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