[lace] square bobbins

2003-11-22 Thread Sally Schoenberg
Hi everyone,

I like to work and often do work with spangled bobbins on some projects and
all kinds of continental bobbins with other projects but, to be perfectly
honest, square bobbins I absolutely loathe.  They are slow, cumbersome, hard
to grasp because so much of the bobbin lies flat on the pillow, they roll
and when crowded together they love to hop over each other without being
asked to do so.  Mostly though, I hate them because they are so difficult to
fasten together and stack.  I love to make lace with lots and lots of
bobbins and I love to clear the bobbins out of the way so I can see what I'm
doing, and that's only possible if the bobbins not in immediate use are
carefully fastened together and stacked.  In the old days lacemakers tied
them into groups with ribbons as can be seen in many an antique photograph,
but then they must have spent a fair amount of time resorting bobbins
whenever they untied a group.

My friend Beverly has just finished a large binche edging using several
hundred square bobbins, she has spent a couple of years on that piece, and
every time she ran amok she would bring it over to my house to sort out.  So
I know what I'm talking about when I say square bobbins are not easy to
fasten and store out of the way.  At first Beverly used tongue depressors
and elastic for holders but those blankety blank bobbins just slipped out at
the drop of a pin.  Mostly she's been sliding them inbetween two double
pointed knitting needles fastened together with double holed point
protectors.  They at least held those stupid square bobbins securely but
then the stacks weren't level and the groups of bobbins were forever sliding
sideways, forwards or backwards.  Putting them inbetween the two fastened
knitting needles was exasperating.  All the bobbins of a group had to be
precisely lined up before they would slide in.  Crocheted ribbons didn't
work, there were hundreds of bobbins constantly being moved in and out of
their holders and neither of us had the patience to carefully put each
bobbin one at a time into a slot in the crochet.

Fastening continental or spangled bobbins together have none of those
problems.  Scooping continentals up with flat sticks and snapping the
elastic in place is the work of a few moments and they stay in place quite
well.  Ditto for sliding spangles onto knitting stitch holders.  On my
pillow, almost all the bobbins are securely fastened together most of the
time and stacked clear so I can see what I'm doing.  Even when I have only
30 or so pairs on my pillow I fasten together and stack the idle bobbins.
Beverly likes to say they are too afraid of me to slip, slide, roll,or hop
anywhere without my say-so, but no, I just keep them on holders if I'm not
immediately using them.  I can say with certainty that when I was working on
my binche fan with 200+ pairs of binche bobbins, a 14 month project, not
once did I have a thread break from a bobbin rolling until the thread
unplied.  And I never gave a single thought to my bobbins rolling around.

One thing I very rarely do is undo lace.  Everyone here in Alaska has heard
me say this so often: recover from a mistake, don't undo.  I truly believe
that it's the repeated doing and undoing lace that wears out thread.
Rolling bobbins around is not the culprit.  Put a layer or two of padding
between your cover cloth and pillow to soften the surface of your pillow
just a bit.  That dampens the rolling quite a lot.  Then put more effort
into fastening your idle bobbins, and don't worry about a little rolling!

Sally Schoenberg
It's winter now, and everyone in the neighborhood has been building cages
for young trees and favorite shrubs to protect them from browsing moose.  My
rhododendrum has a rube goldberg contraption around it, built from whatever
was at hand, partly wood boards, partly plastic fencing and chicken wire,
all tied together with hand spun linen twine.  The knots of course, are
lacemakers' knots.

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[lace] plain procelain bobbins

2003-11-22 Thread Jenni Clark
Hi, Looking for a supplier of plain porcelain bobbins. Does anyone know of
someone? Thanks

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[lace] Liz Ligeti

2003-11-22 Thread Shirley Meier
Sorry to post to the list but would Liz Liggeti contact me please, I have lost
your address.
Shirl.

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Re: [lace-chat] looking for Christmas dinner

2003-11-22 Thread alice howell
At 10:07 PM 11/21/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I know there are varied interests in this group.   I am looking for the 
Modern Priscilla,  probably December '02 or '03 for my brother and 
SIL.  This issue has an elaborate Christmas dinner by Fannie Merritt Farmer 
that they used to use, till it got lost somewhere in their moves. 

It's in the December 1906 issue.
The Christmas Dinner
By Fannie Merritt Farmer

Clam Consomme
Fillets of halibut a la creole
Apple Giner
Creamed turnips
Breslin Patties
English Plum Pudding, hard sauce
Christmas cake
Salted pecans
Pulled bread
Stuffed Roast Goose
Potato Forms with cheese
Tomato baskets with peas
Vanilla ice cread with orange marmalade
Crackers
Cheese
Cafe Noir
Bonbons

Then some of the recipes are listed.

I'll make you a copy.

Alice in Oregon -  Deluges of rain and much wind, and maybe snow.
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FW: [lace-chat] Airmail to Oz

2003-11-22 Thread Jean Peach
I thought I would put my two penny worth in this discussion.  I used to work
for the Post Office in the UK have dealt with Foreign Mail, registers, swift
air.
 Foreign Data Post,I know things have changed a lot in the last couple of
years.
So I made a phone call and found out the following.

I have been told it is now Inter Data Post to Australia not registered.  Now
I know that  this will be tracked all the way and it does get priority all
the way.

For the UK it is now Special Delivery, not Registered, this is tracked too.

I was told that there is Inter Signed For, if you are sending mail to
Australia,
this has no special treatment, it is just signed for at receipt of item.

Parcel Post I was told, there is no insurance for any item if it gets lots.

I know that all my mail to Australia gets there quicker than when I send it
to
the States.  I also find even in Europe it can vary a lot how long my mail
will
take depending again on the country I am sending it too.

Jean

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[lace-chat] Liz Ligeti

2003-11-22 Thread Shirley Meier
Sorry to post to the list but would Liz Liggeti contact me please, I have lost
your address.
Shirl.

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Re: [lace-chat] looking for Christmas dinner

2003-11-22 Thread Clay Blackwell
Well I can't resist asking...

What are...
 - Apple Giner and  Breslin Patties  ???

Clay

 the Modern Priscilla,  in the December 1906 issue.

 The Christmas Dinner
 By Fannie Merritt Farmer

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[lace-chat] Christmas on the cheap!

2003-11-22 Thread Lynn Carpenter
I don't care what the economists say (an economic recovery that started in
November 2001?  In what alternate universe?), Christmas is going to be a
bit on the lean side in this neck of the woods.

So what have your favorite Christmas gifts been, that didn't cost much?

One of my personal favorites has been an Exacto knife set, given me by my
brother.  I have solved more how can I cut this dilemmas with that knife!

Others I can think of were a big box of miscellaneous food items given to
my husband by his aunt (my husband is the cook of the household), and two
pairs of excellent sock given me by my sister-in-law.

How about yours?

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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[lace-chat] Re: lace-chat-digest V1 #2272

2003-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Hi, Shirley,
Here is my address!   I suppose it is to tell me about the lady in Helen's
group you are corresponding with.
You mentioned her yesterday, but could not remember her name.

It was a nice day, wasn't it.  I enjoyed myself, anyway!!!   With LOTS of
talking, how could it fail?! :))

Have a Happy Xmas, and I look forward to seeing you in the New Year.  (Where
has this year gone?)
Regards from Liz Ligeti
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[lace-chat] Postage

2003-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have recently sent both a parcel, and a small package to the US from Oz
and it got there in rapid time.  The small package only took about 6 or 7
days.
I get a catalogue regularly (well Quarterly) from Keepsake Quilting, in the
eastern part of USA and it usually goes via Denmark or Sweden - though
goodness knows why!!!   There is usually an extra 'return address' sticker,
giving a postal address in either of these 2 countries!!

I haven't worked out the postal system yet!!   Many years ago, when Helen
still lived here, she sent to Denmark for some books, for work.  On the same
day I sent away for some wool to the company I was a home knitter for (or
Checker - checking the patterns before they were published), and she got her
books before I got my wool - from only a 20 minute drive away, here in
another suburb of Melbourne.  I was VERY put out!!! :)
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: FW: [lace-chat] Airmail to Oz

2003-11-22 Thread Ruth Budge
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 I love the internet but there are somethings you just can't email.  


Liz, I have a great long list of things that I'd *love* to be able to receive
as email attachments:   a roast potato when someone spoke of their Sunday roast
in a message;  all sorts of goodies from Sainsbury's which aren't available out
here;  a yorkshire pudding filled with meat, vegies and gravy;  a lawn full of
daisies;  the sound of church bells, not to mention a whole roomful of people
speaking English with an English accent - don't much worry *which* county they
come from, as long as its an English accent;  the smell of Ilfracombe harbour
(no, if you don't know it, its not an unpleasant smell, just different to
anything we get out here);I could go on and on!!   I just hope someone,
somewhere, is working on the technology!!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

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