[lace] Jean's lace patterns
Hi, Jean and all, I like to see patterns in books done on a graph (usually pale grey with black pattern-markings, or pale grey or blue with colored markings). That way, no matter what percentage of reduction or enlargement is used/needed, the lace-maker can *manually* change size as much as they want. I'm just enough of a curmudgeon not to completely trust any technology, and lace patterns, if well done, will outlast every copy-technology we currently use. :-D I like to think I'll still be around in 20, 30, 40 years, and still trying new things (even though the eyes are going already ;-D ), and will still want to use patterns produced in the last ten years. Copy-machine and computer technology will only get better and more sensitive, but compensating for the inefficiencies of current and past copying is a burden no lace-maker really wants -- we just put up with it if we have to. Having a manual-based "back-up" system (such as a graph scale-background on the original pattern) is a short-cut to getting around the inevitable changes in technology. Jean, will your group be making the book available to lace-makers outside of the UK? Beth -- in beautiful downtown Canberra, Oz - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] all day class versus half-day
Hello I have taken weekend classes in Sweden that started at 9 am and ended 4.30 pm, both on Saturday and Sunday. Pause for lunch and coffe both am and pm. That did not include my travelling time from hotel to place which took, for me, about 30 min, and for some of the others about 2 hours each way. Travelling to the hotel from where I lived took 4 hours by bus on Friday night and Sunday night. A bit tough but we were two with RA and fibromyalgi and even if we slept VERY well on Saturday night it was worth it as I find I get more "in to" the lace and make more and can ask more questions if it is a whole day class. The time slips by so fast when you are doing lace. We could also choose if we wanted to try different techniques during the class. We had the same teacher both days and she is familiar with many techniques. Ann-Marie http://community.webshots.com/user/annma1 If there is an attachment that is called sanitizer along with my mails it is from my mailserver that checks all my in- and outcoming mails for viruses. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re:patterns?
On Jan 22, 2004, at 21:48, Helen Bell wrote: OR a page that is a fold out page? Those are particularly hard to copy precisely... I'm one of those sticky tape challenged people that just as you get them lined up and ready to put the tape on, one piece moves a fraction, and by then you already have some of the tape in place :-) ) That's why I swear by the re-positionable, dry, glue-stick. Prefereably the Scotch brand (I'm not often influenced by brand names, but had some bad experiences with Avery). It's dry, so it doesn't distort (stretch) the pieces of paper you're trying to glue together. And it's re-stickable; if you plunk your piece a dot or two off, you can lift the piece and re-position it where it *needs* to go... It's my "best friend" when the printed pattern is 3" long, and I need 14"+ to go around the roller. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Reduced Prickings
On Jan 22, 2004, at 21:51, Adele Shaak wrote: Just wanted to add that if you do decide to reduce the prickings, it would be a kindness to include on each pattern a straight line that was, say 5 cm (2 inches) long when the pattern was full size. That will give the photocopy-enlargement-challenged some way to know whether or not the pattern came out the right size. Thanks Adele; I meant to say that too, but my message got so long, I lost track of it myselfAs a matter of fact, I'd appreciate a line reference (calibrated or not) even with full-sized patterns. I could measure that, and see how far off/on target the copied pattern is (or, even, the pattern in the book) and adjust accordingly (if by a hit-and-mis process). I never reduce/enlarge by measuring the *area* of the pricking; always by the *distance*, usually between the pinholes on the straight; I *can * figure things out if I know what the distance is, and what it's suposed to be... - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: lace crafts quarterly
Yeah, I remember these - I think I have a couple of issues too. Not quite my cup of tea, but I think I bought the issues because they were "lace" related, and I was less discriminate with my $ in those days :-) Cheers, Helen - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Reduced Prickings
Hi, Jean and other Arachnes Just wanted to add that if you do decide to reduce the prickings, it would be a kindness to include on each pattern a straight line that was, say 5 cm (2 inches) long when the pattern was full size. That will give the photocopy-enlargement-challenged some way to know whether or not the pattern came out the right size. A lot of people have a problem with re-enlargements. If you say that you reduced it to 80% when you made it smaller, you have to make it 25% bigger to get back to the original size, and a lot of people think you would make it 20% bigger. With a scale line of some kind you know where you are. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE:patterns?
Jean, How about 2 other ideas for consideration for "oversized patterns" - either a folder in the back for the oversized ones - and they can be on a larger sheet of paper and folded OR a page that is a fold out page? I know it might be a little more expensive, but they are 2 other options. I personally prefer my patterns in one piece - partly because it's difficult to get a perfect match on the 2 halves, when you're putting them together (I'm one of those sticky tape challenged people that just as you get them lined up and ready to put the tape on, one piece moves a fraction, and by then you already have some of the tape in place :-) ) Cheers, Helen, Aussie living in lovely, sunny Denver! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] patterns
oops realized too late it is Jean in Cleveland UK in charge of patterns. sorry Jean in Poole! -- bye for now Bev who at least knows she's in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] patterns
Hi everyone and Jean in Poole who has a pattern task ;) I for one am completely ok with prickings reduced 50% (or whatever) to fit a page in a book. It seems more efficient, and economical from a publishing point of view, and less bulk to store and less costly to mail (perhaps), if there are lots of biggish patterns where a pattern pack might be an option. I'm going to photocopy the pricking regardless, in order to use it - I might make the exact piece of lace, or change the pattern somewhat, and lately I've been photocopying twice, once for the pricking, a second one for my notes, figuring, compulsive diagramming, etc. often changing the thread type, and having to enlarge at a different percentage anyway. It's a moot point as I'm up to my lacemaking ears in projects of my own design - but if I was buying a lace book for its patterns, the reduced size wouldn't be a problem. -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lace Crafts Quarterly
Hi All, Betty Ann gave a good overview. I love these magazines. I have them all also and need to look through them again. Different articles are of interest now. They have a lot of articles on different kinds of lace and interviews with the "heavy hitters" of the lace world. They have articles on some of the lesser known laces that we arachnes like to discuss so much! Many of the authors are quite well known, I'm pretty sure Pat Earnshaw wrote some articles. I can't find my issues right now or I'd be more specific. I think I got all the issues by subscription but when she stopped publishing you could buy 25 issues for $50.00 USD (I think that's right, it was a while ago). Eunice Sein Jurado was a soul sister for me - she also loved Battenberg lace and did a lot to promote it at the time. We never met or spoke except when I ordered tape but we sure love B'berg . She also had a mail order lace supplies business. Anyway, they're great magazines and cover all types of lace. Actually I think I saw her name in the previous IOLI Bulletin for making a donation. Jane in Vermont, USA where I walked in a snow squall for 5 minutes today. Quite dramatic! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: patterns
I agree with those who want full-sized patterns for the same reasons Tamara has. It's not because we're obsessive; we're both LIBRAS and like balance and order Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA Tamara wrote: >In general, I prefer patterns in full size; as someone else has >mentioned, enlarging "dilutes" them. It also enlarges the pin-dots, >making it more difficult to prick accurately (yeah, I know y'all think >I'm nuts to insist on half mm accuracy, when some of you don't >pre-prick at all, but there's no reasoning with an obsessive >personality - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: patterns
On Jan 22, 2004, at 3:49, Jean Barrett wrote:
Some patterns are larger than this. If you were buying a book would
you prefer to have such patterns cut in half, probably with an overlap
so that you can put them together again, or would you prefer them to
be reduced with the % enlargement noted so that you can print them out
actual size yourself?
6 of one, and half the dozen of t'other, as far as I'm concerned...
In general, I prefer patterns in full size; as someone else has
mentioned, enlarging "dilutes" them. It also enlarges the pin-dots,
making it more difficult to prick accurately (yeah, I know y'all think
I'm nuts to insist on half mm accuracy, when some of you don't
pre-prick at all, but there's no reasoning with an obsessive
personality ). That's one of the reasons I tend to design in
oversize (sometimes on diagram scale) and then reduce to where I really
want it - it "concentrates" the pattern.
I am -- severely -- "mathematically challenged". As far as I'm
concerned, the percentage sign -- % -- is an accurate representation of
what happens; one eye rolls in one direction, t'other in t'other, and
the twain never act in accord because of the dividing line :) You tell
me how much the pricking has been reduced, and I have no idea what I
should copy it *at*. You tell me what I should copy it at, and, if it
has to be done in two stages (some copiers have a limit both in
reduction and enlarging), and I'm lost...
OTOH (this is a Libra speaking )... We've all had experience of
trying to piece a pattern which had been presented in bits, and the
beginning/ending dots not matching. Especially true of bound (hardback)
books, which can't be spread totally flat in a copier, thus adding
*extra* distortion to whatever the copier itself "serves".
Clay's idea of printing oversized patterns on separate sheets (like the
Green Sheets in "Lace") is, probably, best. It, too, has some
drawbacks: unless the patterns are printed one per sheet (and not
fitted in with other oversized ones) and unless you're prepared to use
the sheet as your pricking, it's still back to the copier and piecing.
But, at least, a sheet is flat, so it's easier to copy. And, if you do
all your copying on the same copier, in a single session, all your
pieces ought to match.
To go back to your original question ("If you were buying a book, would
you prefer..."). In the long run, I'll probably be motivated by
*patterns*, not by their presentation... If I like the patterns, I'll
buy the book and cope with problems later (asking on Arachne for help,
if necessary); if I don't like the patterns, the problems won't arise.
Unless it's a workshop, I almost never make the pattern in the size
it's given; it's easier for me to get the pattern re-sized than to get
the recommended threads, so I start with the threads I have, and make
the *pattern* fit. So it doesn't matter much what size the pattern
*starts* at; it's not likely to *end up* the same anyway...
Yours, ever "helpful" ,
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia, USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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Re: [lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring
Janice asked if there was any lacemaking in the book on which the movie is based. I read the book last year, & thought it very well written. I remember reading that Vermeer's older daughters were sent outside, to sit on a bench & make lace. I'm looking forward to an opportunity of seeing it soon. Just wishing for some sunshine & warmer weather, Penelope Piip originally from Sydney, Australia, now a resident of Groton, MA, USA. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Airport Security and lace in hand luggage
Guys, Had a word with other half about lace pillows and hand luggage. Now that he has actually seen one, he knows what I'm talking about. OK, so, question was, when he was security at Adelaide Airport (which was upto last week) would I have been allowed to bring my lace equipment through as hand luggage? Answer - empty pillow - yes. bobbins - yes. Everything else - no. Pins, scissors etc no way - they would have to go into the main luggage in the hold. He said that whilst you could make arrangement with the airline to take it, it would be very unlikely that they would allow it through security. This means that at least you would be turned back when you went to fly out - or you could get all the way to your destination and be refused to bring it in - or worse still, be about to return home and be refused. He said that whilst this may be partly ignorance of what the equipment was, mainly it was simply down to the fact that pins and needles were not allowed as hand luggage - don't even ask about your scissors! I understand that this is the same situation in the UK for domestic and international flights. Hope this helps Liz - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] IOLI - New Teachers
A few days ago, someone remarked that there were a lot of "unknown" teachers at this year's IOLI Conference, and they did not seem to approve. Well, all the "known" teachers were unknown once upon a time! Being "unknown" does not mean they cannot teach. Quite the oppoiste - they may be very good teachers, but they have not written a book, or travelled around much. These "unknowns" are the backbone of the craft, and work hard at grass-roots level, and without them the craft would flounder and die out. On the other side - just because someone has written a book, and been overseas, does not necessarily make them a good workshop tutor. So, Please, - give the newcomers a "Fair Go". Fresh ideas, and new faces, should be welcomed. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re patterns
Dear Jean, I would prefer correct size patterns. For those of us without easy access to a good copy shop, this means that we don't have to find somewhere which can enlarge A4 onto A3 paper and make costly errors getting the size correct. Not to mention, the time and petrol to get to the other side of the city and the expense of paying them for the copying at that particular shop (That would not be a self service option). Otherwise, to enlarge something printed on A4, I would have to enlarge and then stick A4 sheets together. A straight forward copy and then stick sheets together would be preferable and less prone to error. Look forward to the pattern book. Karen, in Coventry - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] all day class versus half-day
Just a minor correction here - one of the AGM's I attended all the workshops started at 9 a.m., not 10 and finished at 4 p.m. However, in Adelaide last year, workshops started at 9.30 a.m. and finished at 3.30 p.m. Helene wasn't able to get there last year, as she was so recently returned from her lovely trip to France. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Helene Gannac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, there, > > just a general comment, as I am not a member of AIOLI and don't want to > influence their practices, but here in Australia, we always have all day > classes for 2 or 4 days at our AGM. The AGM starts on Sunday evening, > usually with drinks and dinner to meet everyone, and to get the > instructions for the week. Classes are run on Monday and Tuesday from 10am > to 4pm, with a meeting or slide show after dinner, around 7.30pm" > Wednesday is free, with one or two excursions planned by the Committee for > those who want to go, then we start anopther set of classes on Thursday > and Friday, same times. Some of the classes are continuations of the first > set, or you can start a new class if you wish, the teachers teach both > newies and people with 2 days experience :-) > On Saturday, we have the AGM, Suppliers'Fair, and an extra nice dinner in > the evening where we dress up, and Sunday morning, we say farewell. > I have never heard anyone complain about the length of the day classes, > usually it's more like groans from everyone because it's finished already. > I can see that some people might find them tiring, but we do have > handicapped people participating , and they seem to cope all right. Of > couse, having a whole day means that you don't need to hurry so much to > catch up with the teacher, and she has more time to get back to everyone > who needs help. You can also usually stay back at the end of the day, or > during lunchtime if you're not an enthusiastic eater like me :-). > I am very happy with the all-day classes, and would resent it verty much, > I think if they changed to half a day every day. The only thing I would be > happy to change is only having suppliers on the Saturday, but since many > of them are also lacemakers, and are either studying in or giving a class, > I can see that it would be difficult for them! > > Yours in lace, > http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace Crafts Quarterly... on ebay
I have all the Lace Crafts magazines that were published. It was a marvelous quarterly published in Tallahassee, FL by Elaine Sein. I don't recall why she quit publishing, but she did ask me to submit an article but I never got around to it. The Premier Issue was Winter 1987 and the last one was Fall of 1992. I subscribed after I found it on the local news stand and liked it so much that I bought all the previously published issues. The last issues, Vol. 5, Nos. 1, 2, & 3 were 8½ inches wide and 14 inches tall and were labeled *Designs from the Past,* and printed on a beige coarse paper. They didn't fit in my book case (too tall) and many of the articles were not complete with pattern working directions stoping in the middle of a sentence. However, I treasure the magazines and they would be worth bidding on if I didn't have them. The newsstand price was USD $5.95 for the Premier Issue and $5.00 for the rest of them. The last issues, Designs of the Past, were $3.95. I don't recall the subscription price; I got these prices from the covers. This will give you a comparison. They're worth more now, I can guarantee. Usual disclaimers, Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA Clay Blackwell wrote: > Does anyone on the list remember this magazine? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3581971802&category=1140 > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Crafts Quarterly (2)
It appears that GLLGI stands for Great Lakes Lace Group Inc. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Crafts Quarterly on ebay
Did a quick google on Lace Crafts Quarterly. GllGI Library (whatever that is) has most of 1998 (do they mean 3?) and one from 1999. IOLI say they have the complete set. No other information came from the search. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] patterns
My initial reaction to this question was that I prefer the prickings and diagrams to be "of a piece"... that is, not chopped up. But that's not always possible in a book. So my NEXT best preference is to have an oversized sheet tucked into a pocket in the back cover of the book. EXCELLENT solution - and how expensive is it? Don't know... Clay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring
Hmmm... I read the book and loved it. It has more to do with painting than it does with lace, and I don't really remember anything about lace. So, given my obsession with the stuff, I'd say it's safe to say that it really isn't there (not lace *making*... there might be some lace worn by members of the family, and cared for by one of the maids...) But then, you have to remember that my "first love" was art... Clay - Original Message - From: "Janice Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lace-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: [lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring > I saw an ad on tv last night for the movie about the painting of a girl in a pearl earring based on the novel which I have not read yet. Did I read on Arachne that there was lace making in the book? I wonder if there is lace making in the movie? Has anyone seen it yet. So far it is only out in some cities so it might take a while to get here. > Janice > Crystal Lake, IL where I am glad my heating is working today, temp is 0ºF today plus high winds. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring
Hi Janice & spiders, I haven't seen the movie yet but I want to. I think the lace connection may have to do with the fact that it's about the painter Vermeer, who painted "The Lacemaker" as well as "The Girl in the Pearl Earring". (Vermeer is played by Colin Firth who is fast becoming one of my favorite actors!) Vicki in Maryland where we are having a veritable "heat wave" today.got up to 46F/4C but back down to 20F/-6C tonight with snow predicted for the weekend - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace Crafts Quarterly... on ebay
Does anyone on the list remember this magazine? There is a collection of them listed on ebay currently, and from the picture, it looks to be '70's or '80's vintage. Too bad it isn't still being printed. Someone probably lost their shirt on this venture... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3581971802&category=1140 Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Movie - girl in pearl earring
I saw an ad on tv last night for the movie about the painting of a girl in a pearl earring based on the novel which I have not read yet. Did I read on Arachne that there was lace making in the book? I wonder if there is lace making in the movie? Has anyone seen it yet. So far it is only out in some cities so it might take a while to get here. Janice Crystal Lake, IL where I am glad my heating is working today, temp is 0ºF today plus high winds. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] patterns
Hi Jean I too would like to vote for a full size pattern, but the bits placed on a page with a good margin on the binding side, so the page can be copied or scanned properly.Reduced prickings, when enlarged, seem to "dilute" the density of the print and you often loose clarity. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] patterns
I would like the patterns to be actual size. This if there are no cost restraints (i.e. a "give away book). For me,I think that actual size patterns are easier to review invision the project and difficulty. Diane Z Lubec, Maine - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] patterns
Hello Jean, Looking forward to be able to buy a copy of the book - always nice with a new book. I vote for whole pricking and % given so I can print it out in the original size - or - if I want to reduce it and use a thinner thread I have a whole pricking without having to "fiddle" to get it together. Good luck with all the job/Sonja Sonja Sillay in Bristol UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://community.webshots.com/user/sonjasillay - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] IOLI Convention
>>>The bit I liked best about this one is Robin's confidence that the first piece of lace will be finished, leaving the pillow and bobbins free for the second class.<<< Oh, that's hilarious! I've been crowned Queen of Unfinished Projects! Last time I finished something (other than a gift), my friends were *thoroughly* shaken--the earth crumbled a bit. No, I figure I can cut off whatever I did in the first class and have the stuff ready for the next class. Or at least move the project to styrofoam, unwind the bobbins, and have them available. I don't like having to figure out which bundle I need for the morning class (when I have enough trouble putting clothes on right--I'm *not* a morning person), and then there's the tools which are used for both classes, and of course they're with the other bundle and I have to go running back for pins or whatever. >>>Interesting discussion when looked at from the outside. There are good arguements being made all round.<<< Good point. This is a reason for allowing the debate to continue on Arachne, since the points raised are useful to organizers of any convention. Robin P. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI Convention
In a message dated 20/01/2004 19:42:37 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I rather like the idea of having one class all-day for 2 days, > followed by a different class all-day for two days. I can use the same > equipment for the second class, which means I pack half as much. The bit I liked best about this one is Robin's confidence that the first piece of lace will be finished, leaving the pillow and bobbins free for the second class. Interesting discussion when looked at from the outside. There are good arguements being made all round. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] all day class versus half-day
I am very interested to hear about how things are done in other countries. I also prefer all day classes because you don't have to spend so much of the class packing and unpacking equipment. I very much like the 24 hour classes at the convention because when you reach the more difficult laces it is impossible to do anything but frustrate yourself in a shorter class. Although I am now in the age category in which I like a nice long tea break occasionally, in my salad days I would have welcomed even longer classes. About 15 years ago, I had a young child and my husband, who is a saint, would take a week of his precious vacation to accompany me to the IOL Convention and do child care. He did this because it was my dearest wish to use this once a year opportunity to make a meteoric leap in my lace skills. I would have been quite happy to have 8 hours a day of classes, or a post dinner session. In fact, the thing I liked best about the St. Raphaela event in the Philadelphia area was that we worked from 9 am to 9 pm, taking long meal breaks and tea breaks during this time. If someone was fatiqued, they could go for a walk outside or take a nap. The fact that you had a 12 hour stretch meant you didn't feel like you had to go at full speed every minute, but over the course of 12 hours you could get a lot done. I often see Lace Groups giving children's classes with the thought in mind that they are trying to insure the future of lacemaking. But I never see special, intensive, marathon like experiences being offered for people who are young, have a lot of stamina, and want to progress very quickly. And yet, as with so many things, if people are able to reach a high level of proficiency in their 30's, they may be teaching, writing books and pouring hours of unpaid labor into the organization for many years to come. I have been studying the convention schedule trying to figure out how I could take the maximum hours of instruction for my investment of time. I think I have worked out a way that I can be learning for 39 hours. But I will have to take 3 different classes to accomplish this. I wish I could take the entire 39 hours in either Binche or Withof! Devon wishing this opportunity had presented itself 15 years ago - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] patterns
jean, I vote for actual size patterns with overlap when cut in two. Patricia in very wet Wales who may buy a copy. Scotlace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] patterns
Good morning All, Can I canvas opinions on how patterns are presented in books. The background to this is that our Lace Guild is preparing a book of patterns to be published for our 25th Anniversary. We have collected designs from many different lacemakers and they are of many types of lace and many different sizes. The book will be A4 size, 21mm. or 8.3 inches wide, less a bit for binding. Some patterns are larger than this. If you were buying a book would you prefer to have such patterns cut in half, probably with an overlap so that you can put them together again, or would you prefer them to be reduced with the % enlargement noted so that you can print them out actual size yourself? Any ideas will be much appreciated. yes you have guessed I am the lucky person who said they would prepare the patterns for printing. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] all day class versus half-day
Hi, there, just a general comment, as I am not a member of AIOLI and don't want to influence their practices, but here in Australia, we always have all day classes for 2 or 4 days at our AGM. The AGM starts on Sunday evening, usually with drinks and dinner to meet everyone, and to get the instructions for the week. Classes are run on Monday and Tuesday from 10am to 4pm, with a meeting or slide show after dinner, around 7.30pm" Wednesday is free, with one or two excursions planned by the Committee for those who want to go, then we start anopther set of classes on Thursday and Friday, same times. Some of the classes are continuations of the first set, or you can start a new class if you wish, the teachers teach both newies and people with 2 days experience :-) On Saturday, we have the AGM, Suppliers'Fair, and an extra nice dinner in the evening where we dress up, and Sunday morning, we say farewell. I have never heard anyone complain about the length of the day classes, usually it's more like groans from everyone because it's finished already. I can see that some people might find them tiring, but we do have handicapped people participating , and they seem to cope all right. Of couse, having a whole day means that you don't need to hurry so much to catch up with the teacher, and she has more time to get back to everyone who needs help. You can also usually stay back at the end of the day, or during lunchtime if you're not an enthusiastic eater like me :-). I am very happy with the all-day classes, and would resent it verty much, I think if they changed to half a day every day. The only thing I would be happy to change is only having suppliers on the Saturday, but since many of them are also lacemakers, and are either studying in or giving a class, I can see that it would be difficult for them! Yours in lace, Helene, the froggy from Melbourne ...I rather like the idea of having one class all-day for 2 days, followed by a different class all-day for two days. I can use the same equipment for the second class, which means I pack half as much. I can think only about that class and not get those instructions muddled with the other, which means I'll get more out of each class. http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Interior B.C. Canada lacemakers?
Yoo-hoo, looking for lacemakers in Trail, Grand Forks, Nelson, Rossland? We now have a wee tiny group of lacemakers in Colville, WA and we're looking for company - a lace day, perhaps, after the snow is gone? Do reply off list, many thanks, Alison Addicks - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
