[lace] Pound Symbol

2004-10-29 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
For the pound symbol, try:
Hold down the alt. key, and on the number pad on the right of the keyboard 
(Not the numbers aong the top), press 0163, release the alt key, and £ sigh 
will pop up where your cursor is!!
The Quarter sign is alt,with 0188 (¼) the half is alt with 0189 (½).and the 
three quarters is alt with 0190 (¾).   I find I use them quite often, and is 
much easier that going to the character map etc.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Re: UK Lace magazine (and calendar)

2004-10-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:01, Pene Piip wrote:
My UK Lace #116 arrived today.
Something to look forward to next week :)
One thing I have to get somehow, is the 2005 Calendar. The theme is
titled "Friends Around the World".  Patterns come from many countries
around the world, including Australia & Estonia!!
And very nice they are too, esp the Claire Burkhard one (Menschen), 
which is also the basis of the front cover, and pictured - in its 
entirety - on the back. But beware that the format is changed. For 
several years, I got the Lace Guild calendars and, being vertical, they 
fit, perfectly, on the outer upright of my puter desk. But, this 
calendar, though the same size as the old ones, is horizontal. Poses a 
whole lot of new problems in geometry for my two brain-cells... :)

And I can't use it as the household's main calendar (in the kitchen, 
where the space is *meant* to house a horizontal calendar), because we 
close our POs and banks at different times than UK does (for that same 
reason, I can't use the Polish calendar that my cousin sent me. Loverly 
costumes, but I'd rather have Martin Luther King than St John marked as 
a holiday ...)

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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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[lace] Digital cameras

2004-10-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
DH bought me a digi camera last Christmas - a 3.2 mega pixel Olympus 
which is really tiny and I now take it nearly everywhere I go.  It's 
easy to use and there's no expensive film to purchase and have 
processed.  Some pictures I print out, others I just store on the 
computer.  I take a lot more photos than I used to.

I did buy another memory card - the one with it was very small, only 
8Mb, the replacement is 128Mb which will store 55 photos on the highest 
quality setting, the definition of which is great, and 798 on the 
lowest quality setting - which is intended for web use but still needs 
to be compressed a lot of the time.

When it comes to printing, yes the quality does depend a great deal on 
the printer, but if you get something you really want printed at top 
quality you can always put it onto CD and take it into the photo lab 
for printing.

I have a Canon i560.  I took photos of a piece of lace, overall size a 
bit smaller than A4 to test on all 4 settings and even the lowest 
quality 640 x 480 pixels printed acceptably at 4" x 6". The highest 
quality 2048 x 1536 printed about a quarter of the mat onto A4, so 
quite a big enlargement, and every thread is clear.  Compared to that 
the mobile phone camera's 320 x 240 pixels is rubbish.

I've started using the digi camera to record students' work.  Anyone 
who teaches LEA classes will know just how much paperwork is required 
now and it's the easiest way of recording progress (or otherwise!).  
Every few weeks I go around the class and snap each pillow.  I also 
take pics of finished work.  Small size prints (8 to the page) on plain 
paper is adequate for this.

I have a question of my own about digi cameras.  Does anyone know of a 
digital camera of at least 3 megapixels which does not have a moving 
lens.  DH wants to be able to hold a camera against the eyepiece of his 
telescope to take magnified images (of birds) but the zoom lens 
prevents this.  You can get adaptor rings, which cost about 50GBP and 
take time to screw on and off of the telescope, but a static lens would 
be much more convenient.

Brenda - back from Suffolk this afternoon and getting up at 5am 
tomorrow for a day in Bruges.  Daresay I'll take a few more photos!
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/

Brenda
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[lace] Digital cameras

2004-10-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
DH bought me a digi camera last Christmas - a 3.2 mega pixel Olympus 
which is really tiny and I now take it nearly everywhere I go.  It's 
easy to use and there's no expensive film to purchase and have 
processed.  Some pictures I print out, others I just store on the 
computer.  I take a lot more photos than I used to.

I did buy another memory card - the one with it was very small, only 
8Mb, the replacement is 128Mb which will store 55 photos on the highest 
quality setting, the definition of which is great, and 798 on the 
lowest quality setting - which is intended for web use but still needs 
to be compressed a lot of the time.

When it comes to printing, yes the quality does depend a great deal on 
the printer, but if you get something you really want printed at top 
quality you can always put it onto CD and take it into the photo lab 
for printing.

I have a Canon i560.  I took photos of a piece of lace, overall size a 
bit smaller than A4 to test on all 4 settings and even the lowest 
quality 640 x 480 pixels printed acceptably at 4" x 6". The highest 
quality 2048 x 1536 printed about a quarter of the mat onto A4, so 
quite a big enlargement, and every thread is clear.  Compared to that 
the mobile phone camera's 320 x 240 pixels is rubbish.

I've started using the digi camera to record students' work.  Anyone 
who teaches LEA classes will know just how much paperwork is required 
now and it's the easiest way of recording progress (or otherwise!).  
Every few weeks I go around the class and snap each pillow.  I also 
take pics of finished work.  Small size prints (8 to the page) on plain 
paper is adequate for this.

I have a question of my own about digi cameras.  Does anyone know of a 
digital camera of at least 3 megapixels which does not have a moving 
lens.  DH wants to be able to hold a camera against the eyepiece of his 
telescope to take magnified images (of birds) but the zoom lens 
prevents this.  You can get adaptor rings, which cost about 50GBP and 
take time to screw on and off of the telescope, but a static lens would 
be much more convenient.

Brenda - back from Suffolk this afternoon and getting up at 5am 
tomorrow for a day in Bruges.  Daresay I'll take a few more photos!
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/

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Re: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange

2004-10-29 Thread ann DURANT
My computer automatically puts my return address on the top left hand corner 
of the envelope - only once has my missive been lovely delivered back to me!
Ann in Manchester, UK, suffering from MRSA, which has twice been treated in 
hospital during August and October and is still with me, but which can't be 
caught from a computer screen!

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Subject: [lace] Re: Christmas Card exchange


But they also write the same thing in the
top left, *front*, corner of the envelope, to please me and the US PO, and 
*that* way of writing your return address makes excellent sense, also. 
Better, possibly, if you're not using a sticky label to counteract the 
poor glue. With both "to" and "from" information prominently displayed on 
the same side of the package/letter, even the seasonal "help" (possibly as 
in: "God help them") we get at our PO can *cope*
So if the US post office doesn't look on the back for a return address 
before trashing post, an awful lot of post from the UK will be trashed
despite our following Royal Mail's recommendations.

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[lace] Re: look for somebody

2004-10-29 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Sorry,
Kathy Hensel from Marcola, Oregon could you please write to me 
privately.

Ilske
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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Lace Problem

2004-10-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
DMC used to call their machine embroidery cotton Retors D'Alsace if it 
was on the big reels or Brilliante D'Alsace if it was on the smaller 
reels - now they call it all Machine Broder (but retailers still have 
to specify Retors if they want big reels or Brilliante if they want the 
smaller reels!)

Size 60 hasn't been made for 10-15 years; perhaps more!The nearest 
equivalent, size-wize is Mimosa 120, Egyptian gasses 70/2.  Egyptian 
gassed 60/2, Retors 50/2 and Brok 80/2 are a little bit thicker; Brok 
100/2 and Madeira Tanne 80 are a tiny bit finer.

DMC Perle 8 is similar thickness to Anchor/Coats Coton a Broder 17, as 
is Coats/Anchor Pearl 8. but Madeira Perle 8 is a bit thicker.  Of 
course the different construction/appearance of Perle v coton a broder 
would make a difference in the appearance of the finished lace.  Not 
sure if you can still get DMC Coton a Broder, but size 16 or 20 would 
substitute for Anchor/Coats Coton a Broder 17.

These are all cotton threads.
Re the different whites - DMC make "Blanc 5200" which is a brilliant 
white and "Blanc Neige" which is a softer white.  I think that goes for 
all their thread ranges.

On 27 Oct 2004, at 00:46, Janice Blair wrote:
Evelyn wrote asking about thread for 100 Traditional BOBBIN LACE 
PATTERNS BY Geraldine Stott and Bridget Cook.

Hi,
When I bought that book about 10 years ago I went to England to the 
NEC Lace Fair in search of DMC Retors d'Alsace No. 60 and Coats cotton 
a broder, No. 18.  I was told that it had not been available for quite 
a few years.  I also think #18 has been discontinued so I use 16.  
Quite often threads have been discontinued even before the books get 
into the market.  I wanted a bright white thread and was disappointed 
that the threads I bought looked dingy (grey) next to the hankie 
fabric.  I found that DMC make a Machine Broder size 50 in a bright 
white as well as their regular white.  I think the number is 2500, but 
I could only find it in England at the time.  It might be available in 
the US now as that was probably about 3 or 4 years ago.  I have even 
made the pattern you mention and I think I had a problem with working 
the corner. Without the book to check,  I seem to remember that the 
pricking had more pinholes than the working diagram in one of the gimp 
surrounded areas, or
 visa
 versa on the corner.  Printing errors do happen unfortunatley.  With 
more experience you learn to make changes where necessary to get the 
look you are trying to achieve.

I have just completed the Seascape design on the cover and I am sure 
each corner was worked differently as I approached it but it looks 
just as good as the picture.  I use DMC Machine Broder 50 for a lot of 
my Buckspoint patterns.

Your letter should have been addressed to Lace rather than Chat so it 
could be answered by more experienced lacemakers, Chat is usually for 
other subjects.
Janice
Brenda
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[lace] Norwich Suppliers Fair

2004-10-29 Thread sealacehaven
The Norwich Suppliers Fair is organised by Norfolk Lacemakers and is being
held at the John Innes Centre, Norwich Norfolk on Sunday 31st October.
Norwich is centrally situated in the county of Norfolk in the region known
as East Anglia ie in the middle of the large bump on the eastern side of
England.
Nickyfrom Suffolk who is looking forward to attending

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[lace] UK Lace magazine

2004-10-29 Thread Pene Piip
My UK Lace #116 arrived today. There is lots of great articles to read,
and colour photos inside as well as on the covers.
One thing I have to get somehow, is the 2005 Calendar. The theme is
titled "Friends Around the World".  Patterns come from many countries
around the world, including Australia & Estonia!! So I have to get one
some how, preferably before Xmas. I once gave the calendar as a gift
at the NELG gift exchange.
The days here are beginning to be too short for my liking,
Penelope Piip
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City of Tartu, Estonia
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[lace] ate magazine

2004-10-29 Thread Margot Walker
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 05:18  AM, Jenny Barron wrote:
I hope I'm not whining here but my IOLI magazine has not turned up and 
I want to report it. Did anyone sensible - unlike me - save the email
I didn't save the message, but here's Debra Jenny's address for 
complaints:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada.  Spent 8 hours at 
the Skate Canada International figure skating contest yesterday.  6 
hours today, 8 hours on Sat., and 4 hours on Sun. still to come.  
Beautiful skating, but my 'bum is getting numb'.

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[lace] currency symbols/ abbreviations

2004-10-29 Thread ervo
The different computer systems use different representations for special
characters.

When you move data from one system to another, you never know what is happening
with these characters.

E.g. my surname is spelt with an "o with a slash" and I have had labels
spelt
with the Japanese currency signs (in Europe  not in Japan), 1/2 etc.

It is quite possible that two systems will use the same representasion for
"our basic currency symbol". Consequently, you may put a pound symbol into
one system and get a dollar sign out of the other.

The banks use standard abbreviations, I will recommend using the same, e.g.
USD and GBP.

Greetings

Vibeke in Copenhagen

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[lace] Bucks pattern and threads

2004-10-29 Thread Leonard Bazar
Firstly, apologies - I think my machine may have sent
the digest to which I was responding as a reply (I
suppose some of the blame is mine, but it should know
me better by now - Tamara's views on technology are
endorsed).  Now what I meant to send:

Dear Evelynn

As the replies to date have made clear, it really is a
case of finding a thread that works for you, and that
is a personal preference, and also depends on what you
want the lace for.  If it's for a mat, then a firmer
thread would be better than for the handkerchief.  If
you were making a length to be gathered round the edge
of a dress or similar (which is probably what the
original unit was for) a finer thread may give a
better result - though it would be a shame not to use
the corner devised, which I think is very successful. 
Equally though I think it would look more attractive
with a bit of gather rather than being laid out
starched stiff as a board for display, even on the
bride's handkerchief - we do sometimes forget that the
beauty of some of the old patterns comes from how they
should be used, and being laid out for photography
isn't the only way!

The pattern itself is geometric, and has no whole
stitch except the headside and footside passives,
which would make it limper than otherwise.  The gimp
is a key element in the pattern, and needs to be got
right for you - if I were working a length of this,
and didn't like the effect of the gimp in the first
head or two, I'd certainly start again.  I use coton
perle for Bucks gimps, and my first bash at this would
be with 12, for the lighter effect.  The version in
the book seems to use a lighter gimp than in other
similar patterns (eg ships a sailing, p.26, and
pisces, p.28.  If you prefer the heavier look, I'd try
8 as the first attempt.

For thread, I would not mourn the passing of DMC
retors 60.  As others have noted, retors d'Alsace has
been bettered in recent years, though some time ago it
was the thread of choice.  DMC still produce the 50
count, I think, which may in any case suit you if you
want a firmer thread.  The name was changed to DMC
broder machine, and when I last got any, the 25g
spools were the equivalent of retors, while the
smaller 500m spools replaced the brillante d'Alsace,
and retained that thread's shinier finish.

For this sort of pattern, I would in fact use Unity
150; I have an industrial cop of it, and a set of
bobbins wound with it, so availability's not a
problem!  It does produce a good crisp effect, and I
think works well on geometric patterns, especially
with less rather than more cloth areas.  I don't think
it works well for floral with irregular cloth areas,
where its excellent finish is a disadvantage - it
shows up every irregularity, and total lack of fuzz -
it's a plum, not a peach! - is a disadvantage.  I
haven't used dragonfly myself, but have seen Mrs
Ford's samples, and it looked as good.  She at one
stage had worked up a pattern in several of the then
available threads, and it really did show the
differences, and interestingly different people
preferred different threads.  For floral, I prefer
Egyptian, which while well-finished, does have a
little fluff to it, and go for finer (120) rather than
thicker, which suits the patterns I like, and gives me
the fine net and the opportunity to add and throw out
without thickening up the cloth too much but keeping
it looking regular.  Horses for courses, and in my
case, a bit of lazyness/economy - I use S Bucks
bobbins, and am not rewinding them with different
threads!

Not sure which bit of the pattern you're concerned
about - perhaps if you gave the details we could
advise?  The pricking and diagram look fine to me,
without working through them on a pillow.  I really
don't think it would fail to hold together.  The few
patterns I have used from this book have worked well,
problems being my fault not the authors'!  The only
point I would reconsider is how to work the fingers in
gimp.  My personal instinct would be not to secure
them with ground stitches, but use either honeycomb
(as shown in pisces) or cloth (as shown in ships). 
These, especially the latter, would firm up the lace a
bit, which you seem to like.  Similarly, the headsides
in those three patterns are worked differently, and I
would happily use a different one in any of the
patterns if I preferred the result (or found it
easier...) though here I think, as usual, they've used
the right one for the right pattern.

Really, in all this it's a case of trying out and
working from experience, so hope mine is of some use,
but obviously only suggestions.  Do let us know what
you decide, and how it works.


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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #355

2004-10-29 Thread Leonard Bazar
 --- lace-digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 
> lace-digest   Wednesday, October 27 2004  
> Volume 2004 : Number 355
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> 
>   [lace] Springett's bobbin sale
>   [lace] Postage Stamps
>   [lace] RE: digital cameras
>   [lace] Pattern Issue
>   Re: [lace] RE: digital cameras
>   [lace] Digital Cameras
>   [lace] digital cameras, general thanks and answer
>   Re: [lace] Pattern Issue
>   Re: [lace] digital cameras, general thanks and
> answer
>   [lace] Springett Bobbin Auction.
>   [lace] antique bobbins
>   [lace] FW: Auction at Sotheby's
>   [lace] catalogue
>   [lace] Springett Bobbin Auction - American info
>   Re: [lace] Pattern Issue
> 
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> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:50:31 -0400
> From: "Jane Viking Swanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [lace] Springett's bobbin sale
> 
> Hi Laurie and All,  There was an ad on page 31 of
> the Fall IOLI
> Bulletin about the sale.  It's at Sotheby's in
> London on Dec. 15th.
> The URL to look at the bobbins is:
> 
> www.antiquestradegazette.com 
> 
> They do have phone numbers and an e-mail address
> too.  If you
> want those let me know.
> 
> Jane in Vermont, USA about to go rake some of the
> "beautiful"
> leaves .
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> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:51:19 +1000
> From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [lace] Postage Stamps
> 
> Helene, how do you get your Overseas mail posted
> with a variety of stamps on 
> it?  Since the GST came in, there are special stamps
> (GST free) for Overseas 
> mail, and local, stamps are illegal on overseas
> mail.  Our P.O. won't let 
> you post overseas with anything but the 'Proper"
> International stamps on.
> 
> 
> Dianna, your tatting Zoo is great, and I love the
> use of the multicoloured 
> thread.  Well Done.
> 
> from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,  where it is a cold, wet
> and windy, wild day 
> today.
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> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:17:35 -0600
> From: "Helen Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [lace] RE: digital cameras
> 
> I have to say that I have 2 excellent cameras.  
> 
> My first love is my Canon EOS Rebel, a 35mm, which
> serves me very well.
> It will do macros for me, plus portraits,
> landscapes, and sports shots,
> and I can use auto or manual focus, and I have a
> variety of lenses for
> it.  I've done some delayed photography with it at
> night in the winter,
> to get pictures of our Christmas lights (yes, I go
> out and stand in the
> snow - if we have it - to get the shots), and whilst
> I have some
> ordinary shots from it, I've also taken some
> fabulous ones of flora and
> lace, and other things - but it's usually 1 or 2
> shots per roll that
> turn out great.  I do a little scrapbooking, and now
> I'm past my phobia
> of taking scissors to my photos, I can turn an OK
> photo into something
> better.
> 
> But, for my Big 4-0 this year, DH bought me a Fuji
> S7000 Finepix digital
> camera, and I really like it.  I take tons of
> photos, and I can just
> shoot and dump to my pc, deleting the bad pics.  It
> does macro and
> supermacro - to within 1cm (stunning for lace!), and
> shoots in chrome,
> colour and b&W, and can shoot in a variety of modes
> up to 12 megapixels,
> so to get a print quality photo is  easy.  He bought
> the extra card for
> it, and I can shoot up to 500+ pics at 3 megapixels.
>  It also shoots
> movies (short ones - I burnt 2 1/2 minutes of movie
> last week when the
> Colorado National Guard landed a chopper at my kids
> school).  
> 
> I've noticed that the last few times we've had team
> photos taken of DS's
> baseball teams, the photographers have had digital
> cameras, and the
> results have been very acceptable.  I think a number
> of studios use them
> now to take the mug shots for student ID's at
> school, and also the
> commercial places like kiddie candids (or whoever
> they are) use digital
> as well.  They then add borders and all sorts of
> post photo stuff prior
> to printing. 
> 
> Part of me still prefers the 35mm, as it just
> appeals to the more
> traditional part of me, and the photos are on
> emulsion, and not ink on
> paper.  But by the same token, with the digital you
> don't have negatives
> to get damaged by processors, thereby preventing
> reprints (happened to
> me - can't get a reprint of one shot I want to
> frame, as the idiots
> scratched the neg down to the emulsion).  You can
> get very good little
> digital

[lace] wedding veils

2004-10-29 Thread Jean Peach
I have just had a message from my daughter who lives in Australia,
she wants to know is there anyone in Australia who sells antique
lace wedding veils?  I have sent her the address of Honiton shop,
Claeys.  Can't find a web site for Ann Swift.  No this is not for my
daughter, she is married, the information is for a friend of hers.
Seems they want to look like the Australian from Tasmania who
married a prince.  I can't remember what the veil was made off
that was worn at the wedding.

Jean

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[lace] late magazine

2004-10-29 Thread Jenny Barron
I hope I'm not whining here but my IOLI magazine has not turned up and I want to 
report it. Did anyone sensible - unlike me - save the relevant email from last week?
 
jenny barron
Scotland

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