[lace] Hair weaving
When I was 12 years old I had my hair cut. Until then the length was such that I could sit on it. I remember the hairdresser asking if we wanted to keep it,and if so she'd plait it, secure top and bottom and cut off the plait before cutting the rest of my hair. We decided we didn't want it (wish we'd said yes now) and she should dispose of it. Then she said it would go for wigmaking if she cut it into lengths of six inches or so, or hair weaving if she cut it off one length, but there was more call for it for wigmaking and it was cut off in shorter lengths. The length cut off was about 2 feet. How I wish I'd known what I know now! Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Using Polyester thread
I know that lacemakers prefer to use nature fibres - such as cotton, linen silk which are most commonly available. But is there anything wrong with using 100% polyester sewing cotton? Does it have any quirky characteristics? I am trying out an idea I don't want the white colour thread to become yellow over time. Thanks in advance for any comments, especially any personal experiences. Pene Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Hair Weaving
The museum which has such a good collection of hair weaving in our area is located in our Old City Cemetery, and is a museum which focuses on the anthropological perspective of our city as seen through the culture surrounding death, funerals, and mourning. It's actually a fascinating subject, and the museum itself is filled with fascinating things, not the least of which is the mourning jewelry, and the tone of the museum is one of celebration of the human condition Most of the jewelry is made as a hollow tube that is shaped and curved in a method very much like the Japanese art of Kumihimo, and then fitted with gold jewelry findings. The pieces are braided over a solid core - either a tube (straight or shaped), or perhaps a series of beads. After the weaving is done, it is placed (with the core still in place) in a bath of boiling water for just a few seconds. Then it is put in an oven at a low temperature to set. This accomplishes the same thing that happens when we put a perm in our hair. So when the core is removed, the hair retains the shape. Another variation is when the hair is woven in a flat piece which is then mounted under glass in a small frame such as a locket. One of the most amazing pieces in the collection is a picture which on first glance is a sepia-toned representation of a floral spray. But on close examination, you see that each of the flowers, leaves, and stems is made with hair. The piece was made over a long period of time and contains hair from many different members of a large family. So that explains the variety in the hair colors, and also the overall tone, which appears sepia. The technique for this piece is not similar to kumihimo, but is more like the art of quilling. But I must say that although I was contacted, because I'm a lacemaker, to help set up the display by producing a work in progress, the art of hair weaving and the art of lacemaking are not at all alike. If you ever have an opportunity to visit a museum display of mourning customs and particularly the hair jewelry, do go. It really is amazing. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/5/2005 2:40:28 PM Subject: [lace] Hair Weaving There was a hair woven piece , framed, at the 4 Mile House ( an old StageCoach house) in Denver. (I think it is called that!) Helen may be able to tell you more. It was the first (and only) time I have seen anything like this. Regards from Liz Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hair Weaving
When I was in England in November for my mum's funeral, my dad told each of us that we could choose a piece of jewellery. I picked a little silver brooch which was in a little jewellery box from Widnes which is where my great-grandparents lived and where my grandmother was born - I thought that perhaps it had belonged to my gran and had then been passed on to mum, thereby being doubly treasured. It wasn't until I got home and was looking at it a little more clearly that I found it has a little glass covered receptacle in the back and I realised that it was probably a piece of Victorian mourning jewellery - there is no hair in it. I also have a Victorian mourning ring somewhere - there is no hair in that either. Malvary in Ottawa, where the sun is shining brightly and spring has got to be on its way - although it is going to snow tomorrow (Again!) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Hair weaving
Hi All, The talk of hair jewellery made me smile a little! Some time ago, I was admiring a lovely ring in my jewellery friend's shop - he knows my penchant for rings, and always has something on hand to tempt me! - which was a mourning ring, set with jet, and with the deceased's hair plaited in a very lovely sort of Celtic knot. An American lady was also in the shop, and similarly admired the ring, but wanted to know why it was just for mornings, and why couldn't it be worn in the afternoon. She had her chequebook out, and sort of elbowed me out of the way, as she was determined to purchase, but when she was told that it was mourning spelt with a 'u', and was also told that it was made from a dead person's hair, she was out of the shop like a rat up a drainpipe!I was quite glad - I then produced my chequebook, and yet another sale was made! Carol - in Suffolk UK where most of the snow has gone, but it is still jolly cold! Subject: [lace] Re: Hair weaving - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Using Polyester thread
Pene There's nothing to say that you can't use polyester sewing machine thread but it's not the nicest of threads to work with - tends to stretch as you tension the bobbins. I suggest you work a small sample piece and make your own decision from that. Brenda On 5 Mar 2005, at 08:37, Pene Piip wrote: I know that lacemakers prefer to use nature fibres - such as cotton, linen silk which are most commonly available. But is there anything wrong with using 100% polyester sewing cotton? Does it have any quirky characteristics? I am trying out an idea I don't want the white colour thread to become yellow over time. Thanks in advance for any comments, especially any personal experiences. Pene Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Using Polyester thread
Pene, I have used plain polyester...but prefer, by far, the Coates and Clark Dual Duty.it is cotton covered poly and I like it for all sorts of things, from bobbin lace to tatting..sewing, too! (G) It comes in all sizes, from fine (lingerie thread) to all purpose sewing thread to craft/utility thread. And available everywhere. As Brenda said, poly stretches,much like some reeled silks. I have not found that with the Dual Duty. BarbE - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Pene Piip Cc: Lace@arachne.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Using Polyester thread Pene There's nothing to say that you can't use polyester sewing machine thread but it's not the nicest of threads to work with - tends to stretch as you tension the bobbins. I suggest you work a small sample piece and make your own decision from that. Brenda On 5 Mar 2005, at 08:37, Pene Piip wrote: I know that lacemakers prefer to use nature fibres - such as cotton, linen silk which are most commonly available. But is there anything wrong with using 100% polyester sewing cotton? Does it have any quirky characteristics? I am trying out an idea I don't want the white colour thread to become yellow over time. Thanks in advance for any comments, especially any personal experiences. Pene Penelope Piip [EMAIL PROTECTED] City of Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: hair work (hair weaving)
As a tatter, I was amused to see the lost art line used on hair work. I don't know about professionals, (how many of us make lace as a profession?) but there are certainly gobs of amateurs (which I mean in the root sense of amator, lover, one who does it for the love of it). Websites about hair work: http://www.hairwork.com/ http://www.hairworksociety.org/ http://www.victorianhairartists.com/ http://www.hairworkvirtu.com/ http://www.sparr.dk/ Here is Northampton, Massachusetts' virtual hair mourning jewelry exhibit: http://www.historic-northampton.org/601081/601508/800/ And a link to Hedgehog Handworks, selling a book on hairwork: http://www.hedgehoghandworks.com/catalog/BKWSD001.shtml (The cover shows a man seated before a hairwork stand, with all the bobbins dangling around it.) Note that some of these sites sell various things, and I give the usual disclaimer: I haven't ordered from them, get no commission from them, and can't guarantee their legitimacy! But what a fascinating search this has been -- thank you to the originator of this thread! Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] How old are Patricia Read and Lucy Kincaid?
There's a copy of NEW BRAIDS AND DESIGNS IN MILANESE LACE. By Patricia Read and Lucy Kincaid on ebay described: MILANESE LACE. 1994 (reprint from 1907) Both authors must be well over 100 years old! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19158item=81753880 79rd=1 or search for item number 8175388079 Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Hair weaving
On Mar 5, 2005, at 12:36, Carol Adkinson wrote: An American lady was also in the shop, and similarly admired the ring, but wanted to know why it was just for mornings, and why couldn't it be worn in the afternoon. She had her chequebook out, Erm... To her, it was a checkbook - you see the trend? She was just overzealous in removing the unpronounced u from *all* words of her acquaintance. :) and sort of elbowed me out of the way, You were an inconvenience, just like the u... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Hairwork (hairweaving) info and resources
Dear Arachne Friends, I had taken a short course in hairwork at a museum conference I attended several years ago. This book was the one we were also told was a good resource. http://www.hedgehoghandworks.com/catalog/BKWSD001.shtml Amazon also has this book. We used horsehair which we purchased at http://www.hitchingpostsupply.com/pilot.asp?pg=horsehair It is also used in equestrian jewelry for show horses, bows for violins, flies for fishing and various art crafts. a couple more horsehair sources but I haven't tried these: http://www.thetailstore.com/horsehair.htm http://www.horsehair.ca/ Some other sites with info: http://www.hairwork.com/ http://sohe.wisc.edu/depts/hlatc/pixelsexhibit/hair.html http://www.costumes.org/store/100pages/BOOK19TH.HTM I have 2 pieces of hair jewelry and they mean a lot to me because they represented a person's love for someone very close to them. Hair does not deteriorate because it is not a living thing and so will last indefinitely. I have a lock of hair attached to a Civil War ambrotype picture! (1860's) http://www.common-place.org/vol-02/no-02/fried/early-photography.shtml I'm sure this is MUCH more than you ever wanted to know but I hope I have helped a little. Now back to lurking, SHIRLEY PRIMAVERAnear Green Bay, Wisconsin USA where we got another inch of snow and the temps don't want to get out of the 20's. We are hoping for some thawing this weekend. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Hairwork
Some years back the local college had an art exhibit of hair embroidery. I was curious, so attended. An oriental gentleman had used human hair to embroider the portraits of all the USA presidents. He was working there at the exhibit on the then newest president and it was fascinating to watch him. Color shading depended entirely on the various colors of hair he had. The portraits looked like ink drawings with different shades of ink--all in blacks, browns and grays. Alice in Oregon -- where the trees and flowers are blooming in warmer than normal temps. We need rain and snow, not heat. But the trees are beautiful. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: quilts and knitting
Dear all, thanks for the responses which have solved my 30 year old mystery. Using the term counterpane, I came across this site: http://www.knitting-and.com/knitting/patterns.htm which has patterns for counterpanes, made up from squares, triangles etc. Perhaps one reason for using the term quilt, was that the pieces were sewn together to make the whole, which would relate to patterns made up by patchwork. Of course, Prince Edward Island where the books were set, and LM Montgomery lived, had a population of French origin. There may be greater significance of the French word couette for covers could be made from material or wool and the use of the word quilt for knitted bedcovers in the books. Karen In Coventry -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Mac Duff, a question
My understanding of Lay on in Lay on, Mac Duff, is the sense I find in my 1960 (American) Webster's dictionary under lay on: To strike; beat; attack. Of course you have to remember that I am in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism), and frequently hear the fighting marshalls tell combat participants to Lay on!, meaning Start fighting ! (And yes, we do cry hold, enough! When melees start moving too close to pavilions or non-combatants at the edge of the fighting lists, you will hear a chorus of Hold! s coming from the gentlefolk who want to avoid being hit or trampled. Or both.) Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] The washcloth
There is not a woman alive today who won't crack up over this! And the guys will appreciate it as well... I was due for an appointment with the gynaecologist later in the week. Early one morning, I received a call from the doctor's office to tell me that I had been rescheduled for that morning at 9:30am. I had only just packed everyone off to work and school, and it was already around 8:45 am. The trip to his office took about 35 minutes, so I didn't have any time to spare. As most women do, I like to take a little extra effort over hygiene when making such visits, but this time I wasn't going to be able to make the full effort. So, I rushed upstairs, threw off my pyjamas, wet the washcloth that was sitting next to the sink, and gave myself a quick wash in that area to make sure I was at least presentable. I threw the washcloth in the clothesbasket, donned some clothes, hopped in the car and raced to my appointment. I was in the waiting room for only a few minutes when I was called in. Knowing the procedure, as I'm sure you do, I hopped up on the table, looked over at the other side of the room and pretended that I was in Paris or some other place a million miles away. I was a little surprised when the doctor said, My, we have made an extra effort this morning, haven't we? I didn't respond. After the appointment, I heaved a sigh of relief and went home. The rest of the day was normal...some shopping, cleaning, cooking, etc. After school when my six year old daughter was playing, she called out from the bathroom, Mommy, where's my washcloth? I told her to get another one from the cupboard. She replied, No, I need the one that was here by the sink, it had all my glitter and sparkles saved inside it. Malvary in Ottawa where we are supposed to have above 0 degree temperature today, but snow again tomorrow. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Loyal Wife
A Very Loyal Wife... This woman's husband had been slipping in and out of a coma for several months, yet she had stayed by his bedside every single day. One day, when he came to, he motioned for her to come nearer. As she sat by him, he whispered, eyes full of tears, You know what? You have been with me through all the bad times. When I got fired, you were there to support me. When my business failed, you were there. When I got shot, you were by my side. When we lost the house, you stayed right here. When my health started failing, you were still by my side... You know what? What dear, she gently asked, smiling as her heart began to fill with warmth. I think you're bad luck. David To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Friend going to Ireland
An American friend of mine is going to Ireland. She's a needlepointer primarily, but is interested in all things textile. Can anyone help with some advice please. I asked permission to post Leslie's email address here, so that replies can be sent direct. On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:08:40 -0500, Leslie Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading, with interest, all the messages about what to see in England in the way of needlework. But I'm not coming to England, I'm going to be in Ireland in October. Are you aware of anything that I should try to find? I'll be in Dublin, Tralee, Galway, and points South. I've tried the Internet but can't seem to find much. TIA, Leslie -- Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards. - Fred Hoyle Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Animal Crackers
This one's even better than the one about the squirrel driver cornering a human... :) From: T.W. I never dreamed slowly cruising on my motorcycle through a residential neighborhood could be so incredibly dangerous! Little did I suspect. I was on Brice Street - a very nice neighborhood with perfect lawns and slow traffic. As I passed an oncoming car, a brown furry missile suddenly shot out from under it and tumbled to a stop immediately in front of me. It was a squirrel, and must have been trying to run across the road when it encountered the car. I really was not going very fast, but there was no time to brake or avoid it -- it was that close. I hate to run over animals, and I really hate it on a motorcycle, but a squirrel should pose no danger to me. I barely had time to brace for the impact. Animal lovers, never fear. Squirrels, I discovered, can take care of themselves! Inches before impact, the squirrel flipped to his feet. He was standing on his hind legs and facing my oncoming Valkyrie with steadfast resolve in his beady little eyes. His mouth opened, and at the last possible second, he screamed and leaped! I am sure the scream was squirrel for Bonzai! or maybe Die you gravy-sucking, heathen scum! The leap was nothing short of spectacular... He shot straight up, flew over my windshield, and impacted me squarely in the chest. Instantly, he set upon me. If I did not know better, I would have sworn he brought 20 of his little buddies along for the attack. Snarling, hissing, and tearing at my clothes, he was a frenzy of activity. As I was dressed only in a light T-shirt, summer riding gloves, and jeans, this was a bit of a cause for concern. This furry little tornado was doing some damage! Picture a large man on a huge black and chrome cruiser, dressed in jeans, a T-shirt, and leather gloves, puttering at maybe 25 mph dow a quiet residential street, and in the fight of his life with a squirrel. And losing. I grabbed for him with my left hand. After a few misses, I finally managed to snag his tail. With all my strength, I flung the evil little rodent off to the left of the bike, almost running into the right curb as I recoiled from the throw. That should have done it. The matter should have ended right there. It really should have. The squirrel could have sailed into one of the pristinely kept yards and gone on about his business, and I could have headed home. No one would have been the wiser. But this was no ordinary squirrel. This was not even an ordinary angry squirrel. This was an EVIL MUTANT ATTACK SQUIRREL OF DEATH! Somehow he caught my gloved finger with one of his little hands and, with the force of the throw, swung around and with a resounding thump and an amazing impact, he landed squarely on my BACK and resumed his rather antisocial and extremely distracting activities. He also managed to take my left glove with him! The situation was not improved. Not improved at all. His attacks were continuing, and now I could not reach him. I was startled, to say the least. The combination of the force of the throw, only having one hand (the throttle hand) on the handlebars, and my jerking back unfortunately put a healthy twist through my right hand and into the throttle. A healthy twist on the throttle of a Valkyrie can only have one result - Torque. This is what the Valkyrie is made for, and she is very good at it. The engine roared and the front wheel left the pavement. The squirrel screamed in anger. The Valkyrie screamed in ecstasy. I screamed in... well... I just plain screamed. Now picture a large man on a huge black and chrome cruiser, dressed in jeans, a slightly squirrel-torn T-shirt, wearing only one leather glove, and roaring at maybe 50 mph and rapidly accelerating down a quiet residential street on one wheel, with a demonic squirrel of death on his back. The man and the squirrel are both screaming bloody murder. With the sudden acceleration I was forced to put my other hand back on the handlebars and try to get control of the bike. This was leaving the mutant squirrel to his own devices, but I really did not want to crash into somebody's tree, house or parked car. Also, I had not yet figured out how to release the throttle ... my brain was just simply overloaded. I did manage to mash the back brake, but it had little effect against the massive power of the big cruiser. About this time the squirrel decided that I was not paying sufficient attention to this very serious battle (maybe he was an evil mutant NAZI attack squirrel of death), and he came around my neck and got INSIDE my full-face helmet with me. As the faceplate closed part way, he began hissing in my face. I am quite sure my screaming changed intensity. It had little effect on the squirrel, however. The RPMs on the Valkyrie Dragon maxed out (since I was not bothering with shifting at the moment), so her front end started
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Little Humor
I grew up with Little Johnny jokes but, 35- 45 yrs ago in Poland, they were all uniformly *smutty* and definitely not lace-chat fodder :) These, while still showing the in your face little guy and funny, are pristine... From: R.P. A new teacher was trying to make use of her psychology courses. She started her class by saying, Everyone who thinks you're stupid, stand up! After a few seconds, Little Johnny stood up. The teacher said, Do you think you're stupid, Little Johnny? No, ma'am, but I hate to see you standing there all by yourself! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Little Johnny watched, fascinated, as his mother smoothed cold cream on her face. Why do you do that, mommy? he asked. To make myself beautiful, said his mother, who then began removing the cream with a tissue. What's the matter? asked Little Johnny. Giving up? *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ A Sunday School teacher of preschoolers was concerned that his students might be a little confused about Jesus Christ because of the Christmas season emphasis on His birth. He wanted to make sure they understood that the birth of Jesus occurred a long time ago, that He grew up, etc. So he asked his class, Where is Jesus today? Steven raised his hand and said, He's in heaven. Mary was called on and answered, He's in my heart. Little Johnny, waving his hand furiously, blurted out, I know! I know! He's in our bathroom!!! The whole class got very quiet, looked at the teacher, and waited for a response. The teacher was completely at a loss for a few very long seconds, Finally, he gathered his wits and asked Little Johnny how he knew this. Little Johnny said, Well... every morning, my father gets up, bangs on the bathroom door, and yells, Jesus Christ, are you still in there?! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* The math teacher saw that little Johnny wasn't paying attention in class. She called on him and said, Johnny! What are 2 and 4 and 28 and 44? Little Johnny quickly replied, NBC, CBS, HBO and the Cartoon Network! ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Little Johnny's kindergarten class was on a field trip to their local police station where they saw pictures, tacked to a bulletin board, of the 10 most wanted criminals. One of the youngsters pointed to a picture and asked if it really was the photo of a wanted person. Yes, said the policeman. The detectives want very badly to capture him. Little Johnny asked, Why didn't you keep him when you took his picture? -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Mac Duff, a question
Surely my family is not the only one who says Lead on, MacDuff instead of Carry On, MacDuff. Since lead on sounds so much like lay on I always figured that the phrase came from the Shakespeare play MacBeth, even though the meaning was different. In our family, the meaning was similar to the ones that Tamara described. The person who says it is giving up responsibility. The meaning ranges from you lead and I'll follow you to well, your idea is completely hare-brained but I have nothing better to do with my time so I am going to follow along and watch you hang yourself with your own rope. Usually a person shrugs when they say lead on, MacDuff. So, for example, if you were lost in the woods, you could say,What, you think the highway is North instead of West? Well, fine, we'll do it your way. Lead on, MacDuff. Or you're bored and someone suggests going out somewhere: The Arborium Gardens? I've never heard of the place. Lead on MacDuff. Julie Baltimore MD *** Tamara said: DH will sometimes - jocularly - say: carry on, Mac Duff, when allowing someone to expound on what he considers to be an outrageous idea/proposition (have all the rope you want dear kind of thing g). It's something he says he grew up with; a phrase his parents used (and he'll be 81 later this month). To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
