Re: [lace] RE:drawn thread handkerchief

2006-01-22 Thread spindexr
My guess is a chalice veil. They're fairly common and about the size of a large 
handkerchief.

Avital

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From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 My understanding is that while there was a pall which covered the 
 entire(closed) casket, a pall cloth was used to cover the face of 
 the deceased
 during the wake.  This served two purposes...  it hid the face (which,
 without the intervention of modern undertakers, may have been an 
 unpleasantsight).  AND - it served a distinct purpose during the 
 wake, because if the
 deceased person were not quite sincerely dead,  any breathing 
 would cause
 the cloth to move, signaling that the person was still alive.  
 
 Clay

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Re: [lace] Re: Coloured Lace

2006-01-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster

On 22 Jan 2006, at 05:31, Tamara P Duvall wrote:


The twined (or twisted, according to The Cook Book) gimp _does_ 
outline a shape much more clearly than a single one, because the 
basic threads pass between the two and are hidden. The technique is 
also useful when basic threads are used in that manner (no 
thickening, but a solid line of colour). But it's impossible (so far 
as I can tell) to use a twisted gimp in a gimp-loop (a very useful 
trick)... There's no Paradise in BL :)


Why not?  It should be possible to work out in advance how many twists 
the gimp pair will require and apply them.  Then when you get to the 
position where you need to pass the basic pairs through just separate 
the gimps in the right place and voila!  Might be a bit difficult to 
tension though.


BTW - I'm not volunteering to try it out!

Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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[lace] Prince Christian

2006-01-22 Thread Christine Johnson
Dear Avril,
Thanks for posting about the Prince's christening gown - we got little bits
about the christening live during the tennis last night, but the first
standard news was this evening. Between my mother and my lace buddy we
videotaped 4 of the 5 channels' evening news broadcast to pause and study
the lace on a big screen TV later. (I think all of them were much the same,
since I saw all but 1 anyway). My Mum, bless her, kept the colour photo on
from the front page of the Sunday newspaper (didn't think of that).
If you get a chance to see the lace, I would love to hear more details. (I
went to see the wedding dresses when I was in Copenhagen in 2004, and was
quite disappointed that the handkerchief had been artily displayed and I
couldn't really get a good look at the corner - the photo on the cover of
Kniplebrevet gave a better idea).

Christine Johnson
(was in Perth, but now back east in Sydney, Australia)

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[lace] Russian Tape Lace

2006-01-22 Thread A Thompson
About five years ago I went on a Waterways of Russia tour, a delightful
journey in a boat gliding along the canals, rivers and lakes that joined
Moscow to St. Petersburg.  I was with my dear friend Pat, who sadly died a
couple of years ago.  I remember listening to the nightingales singing in the
birch trees along the banks as the midnight sun still shone long after 11 pm.

In the north we stopped at the lakeside in the Vologda region and were lucky
to see the lace-workers, even in the the cold climate, outide working at their
bolster pillows which were set with the long side at the front and were worked
round as the pattern progressed.  I recall this thread being discused a while
ago and remember sending Lori some photos of the lace workers and the actual
tape lace I purchased from them, on her web-site.  I bought a mat, a butterfly
and an angel.  I used the angel pattrn for my Romanian Point Lace book and
there are similar designs in a recent book on lace angels.

Angela in foggy, cilly, frosty Worcestershire UK.

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Re: [lace] RE:drawn thread handkerchief

2006-01-22 Thread Carol Adkinson
Helen et al,

That was my first thought but, after 'selling' a beautiful jet-mounted
mourning ring, with a lock of hair -presumably of the deceased - plaited at
the back to a lovely American lady, and then having the sale cancelled very
abruptly when I explained that it was 'mourning' as in death/dying/grief,
rather than morning as in daytime, I hesitate to put people off anything by
explaining nowadays!   Still - her loss was my gain, as the ring was then
sold to me, by the jeweller, so I was doubly happy!

Carol - in a cold and grey Suffolk UK



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Subject: [lace] RE:drawn thread handkerchief


 Could it be a pall cloth?


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[lace] Shetland Lace Greeting Card

2006-01-22 Thread Lenore English
Jane held a drawing for a Shetland Lace Greeting Card, and I won!  I received 
the card yesterday and posted a picture to my blog.  
   
  http://tatt3r.blogspot.com/
   
  On the back, it says Unst Heritage Center photo by Judith Marsden Shetland.
   
  Thanks, Jane.  It is a beautiful card.  I'll bring it to the next West 
Michigan Lace Group meeting for 'Show and Tell'.
   
  Lenore in SW Michigan
  enjoying the sunshine!
   


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Re: [lace] Shetland Lace Greeting Card

2006-01-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster

It's a lovely card.

Tell me Lenore, the circular mat underneath the card; is it a mix of 
hairpin crochet and tatting?


Brenda

On 22 Jan 2006, at 17:39, Lenore English wrote:

Jane held a drawing for a Shetland Lace Greeting Card, and I won!  I 
received the card yesterday and posted a picture to my blog.


  http://tatt3r.blogspot.com/


Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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RE: [lace] Danish Royal Christening

2006-01-22 Thread Annette Meldrum
Dear Avril,
Thanks for keeping us informed. I was away for the weekend and so have not
seen any TV coverage, just a Sunday newspaper. If you discover any further
details of the lace, please let us know.

Regards
Annette in a very hot Wollongong, NSW Australia

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Subject: [lace] Danish Royal Christening

Hi Everyone,
Just to let you know that the new royal prince in Denmark was christened
today in one of Copenhagen's most beautiful churches, the Church of
Christiansborg Palace. His name, which according to the Danish royal
customs, was first made public at the moment of his actual christenng and he
will be known as Christian, Valdemar, Henri, John. It was a truly beautiful
ceremony and Mary looked radiant in her new role as mother. The baby was
wearing the beautiful robe of Brussels lace made in 1870 for the christening
(in the same church) of Christian the 10th of Denmark. It has been a
tradition for the royal family to use the gown and it will be on display in
the royal palace of Amalienborg next week.
Check this site out for pictures and video

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Oevrige_temaer/2006/Prins/index.htm
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[lace] Re: Gimp Loop (was: Coloured Lace)

2006-01-22 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Jan 22, 2006, at 8:03, Brenda Paternoster wrote:


On 22 Jan 2006, at 05:31, Tamara P Duvall wrote:
But it's impossible (so far as I can tell) to use a twisted gimp in a 
gimp-loop (a very useful trick)...


Why not?  It should be possible to work out in advance how many twists 
the gimp pair will require and apply them.


Why not? Because I'm very wobbly at using the gimp loop, even singly, 
that's why :) Every time it comes up (not often, since I don't do much 
PG), I have to pull out Ulrike Loehr's (as she then was) 
Schwartzarbeit, open it to p 11 (passing through), and keep the 
diagrams for it in front of me while working. Where she says: Once you 
know how to do it, you'll never understand the problems you had?  
Well, that's the most blatant lie I've heard, and I've heard many! g 
For me, the loop-de-loop is like those clover-leaf road crossings... 
I'll never fully understand them; the best I can do is hold my breath 
and follow instructions :)


Then when you get to the position where you need to pass the basic 
pairs through just separate the gimps in the right place and voila!  
Might be a bit difficult to tension though.


Or impossible, depending on how many stitches have to be done within 
the loop. With more than 4 done outside the two gimp-outlined shapes, 
tensioning can become tricky even with a single gimp; while the gimp is 
pretty much tensioned on the starting side, you have to pull the 
entire loop (needs to be large enough to pass the bobbins through back 
and forth) up through the pairs of the other bit until it's built up 
enough that the gimp can resume its ordinary course. For every stitch, 
you have 2 passes (one out, one in) of pairs. In twinned/twisted 
gimp, you have a twist for each of those passes... If a smooth gimp is 
hard to pull through (remember that all the twists on the basic pairs 
have to be kept as usual), I'd think pulling a twisted one through, 
keeping the twists in correct place, etc would be more than just a bit 
difficult :)


And then there's the problem of figuring the exact number of twists: 16 
for a 4-pin concoction (pairs coming in and out from both gimp-enclosed 
shapes)... If you miscalculate, you're out of luck, because undoing the 
work within the loop is much harder than your plain vanilla 
retro-lacing. And then there's the passing itself, opening just the 
right twist, determining which one is up-thread and which one 
down-thread, depending on direction... For me, it would be easier to 
introduce that extra pair of gimps for the parallel shape, or pass up 
on the pattern... :)


But that's _me_ and my problems with geometric imagination; I have to 
pin the loop in two places (not just at the bottom) to have it resemble 
the shape shown in the Loehr's diagram, so that I can follow the 
diagram (and woe is me, when I have to mirror the situation upside 
down)... I have to loosen/tighten the loop with every pass simply not 
to lose track of it... And so on, and so forth. People who are not 
similiarly afflicted might consider the experiment.



BTW - I'm not volunteering to try it out!


Chicken :)

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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Changing a photo to a pattern

2006-01-22 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Can anyone tell me the best way to change a photo into a Cross stitch/filet 
lace pattern, please?


I am sure it is not at easy as getting the photo printed onto graph paper!! 
Life is Never that easy, -- is it? (said Hopefully!!! :)) )


Cross stitch patterns transfer into filet lace Very well, so if anyone had 
done that for cross stitch, I could use the same method.


Thanks.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is a bit cooler today. Yesterday 
was 42.4C or 107F - with High humidity!!
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Re: [lace-chat] Royal Christening

2006-01-22 Thread Pene Piip

The Sydney Morning Herald has a story to read in English, but only one photo:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/little-prince-christian/2006/01/21/1137734191022.html

Pene

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Re: [lace-chat] Royal Christening

2006-01-22 Thread Dorte Tennison
just a correction, the fond is in solid silver, but when the royalty is 
christening they bring in a smaler fond in solid gold. That didn't come out 
in the articel


http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/Oevrige_temaer/2006/Prins/index.htm

http://kongelig.tv2.dk/

on thise 2 links there is even more pictures and video to but as yesterday 
only in danish, there you allso can see the golden fond

Dorte from Denmark on a lazy/lacy sunday afternoon


www.spaces.msn.com/members/MrsTee



The Sydney Morning Herald has a story to read in English, but only one 
photo:


http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/little-prince-christian/2006/01/21/1137734191022.html

Pene

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[lace-chat] Fwd: Cell phones

2006-01-22 Thread Tamara P Duvall
It's this time of year again... Warnings about the rape of the 
cellphone numbers (US) are circulating; I had a couple as early as 
December... Before panicking, check it out, and _do not pass_ to all 
your friends :)



From: J. B.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

At the same time, registering with Do Not Call won't hurt, though it's 
not likely to help much, either, against the auto-dialers of 
politicians ( who, like charities, are exempted, and who'll leave a 
pre-recorded message on any phone that is functional)

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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace-chat] Things that keep your brain active

2006-01-22 Thread Allan and Yvonne Farrell
  got up to 50F (10C) and that's been going on for almost two weeks - a
 blessing with heating oil being so expensive!


got to 38C(100.4F) on Saturday,  up to 42C(107.6 F) here on Sunday, only
about 35C today but the weather man says that it will be back up to 42C by
Thursday. Sure giving the air conditioner a work out.
Cheers, Yvonne.

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