Re: [lace] Re: Saba Lace
I think PieceWork had a short article about Saba lace a while ago, but I don't recall very many photos or close-ups of the work. The photos that Lacefairy has on her site really look like Teneriffe. http://lace.lacefairy.com/ID/Saba.html If I were to hazard a guess at identifying Saba lace, I would say that the drawnwork looks like a hybrid of Teneriffe/Sol/Nanduti and Mexican drawnwork. Saba lace doesn't have the separately worked medallions that are characteristic of a lot of Nanduti lace. It seems to be worked more in bands like Mexican drawnwork but the bands are not as wide and elaborate as what I've seen in Mexican work. As for the stitches, one would expect overlap--there's a limit to the number of ways one can wrap threads or needle-weave fillings. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm only going by the photos on one site. I just found some photos on the Saba tourism site. Saba lace seems to be mainly used for inserts and edgings. http://www.sabatourism.com/lacesamples2.html Of course, that may reflect current fashion (lace collars aren't in style), but it does appear that Nanduti/Teneriffe has more examples where the entire fabric is made of lace, by whipping medallions together and working fillings in the spaces. Teneriffe/Sol/Nanduti laces are worked on spokes formed by winding thread around a stitched circle or around pins. Saba may be true drawnwork (worked only on threads left after drawing out grounds threads, but I somehow doubt it. Otherwise, you wouldn't see so many examples of white on colour. I hope this makes sense. I'm trying to do this at work and the Web interface isn't great. Avital On Jun 11, 2007, at 17:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe there is an Arachne who can help answer the following inquiry that Lacefairy received? She asked me to send to Arachne, for assistance. Jeri Ames in Maine USA -- Can you tell me how I am able to identify Saba lacework from others? Are there certain styles that were only used by Sabans or only certain materials or shapes/items? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: where do you meet?
--- Jenny De Angelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in our town on the Costa Brava Spain Some of the ladies that would normally attend the classes and others of us who don't, meet each Saturday afternoon for 3hours in the patio at the side of the church in town from about mid June until about mid October. The patio is a gravelled area with plane trees set in it and we sit under the trees making lace in the open air. This Saturday meeting of lace makers is informal and we just turn up when we can and leave as we please. It is a nice way to spend a few hours in the sunshine doing what we enjoy doing chatting. Doesn't this sound idyllic! There's something about lacemaking in the open air that makes it the best of all. Perhaps it's because the light is so good that makes it easier. Or perhaps it connects us more to the old-time lacemakers sitting at their doorways. Or perhaps it's just the combination of our favourite pastime and pleasant surroundings. Whatever it is, some of my happiest memories are making lace on apartment balconies in Greece and the Canary Islandson a yacht at anchor in beautiful bays in the Mediterranean (I have a photo which I sometimes show other lacemakers That's the way to do it!)...on the same yacht gently cruising along the Canal du Midi in southern Franceoutside a bungalow on holiday in the Maldives (frantically making lace ivy leaves for our group entry to the John Bull Trophy)...on the balcony of a friend's house on a marina on the south coast of the UK. In the future I shall look back at sitting on the jetty here (while DH works on the boat) and I'm looking forward to lots more in the future. Do other people feel the same way? I suppose some climates make it difficult but I can't be the only one who always takes a travel pillow when they go on holiday. We are s lucky! Hazel (in Oude Wetering, Holland where it is a little too cool for outdoor lacemaking today!) ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: where do you meet? and work
We do some living history camping and I always take my lace pillow. I don't have a proper travel pillow but normally use a block pillow. Still waiting for my dh to make me a wooden stand, g . I have tried a couple of alternatives which don't work, so just use a lump of wood under my feet to lift my knees a little. It is pleasant watching what is going on around me, plus working steadily away at my lace. What more could we want. (apart from some warm clothing, some days, LOL) My dh took a photo of me working my lace with a huge coat and hood almost covering me, LOL. It created some fun and did warm me a little on a very chilly afternoon. I did progress with my lace though:-) Sue T, Dorset UK Here in our town on the Costa Brava Spain Some of the ladies that would normally attend the classes and others of us who don't, meet each Saturday afternoon for 3hours in the patio at the side of the church in town from about mid June until about mid October. our group entry to the John Bull Trophy)...on the balcony of a friend's house on a marina on the south coast of the UK. In the future I shall look back at sitting on the jetty here (while DH works on the boat) and I'm looking forward to lots more in the future. Do other people feel the same way? I suppose some climates make it difficult but I can't be the only one who always takes a travel pillow when they go on holiday. We are s lucky! Hazel (in Oude Wetering, Holland where it is a little too cool for outdoor lacemaking today!) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Saba Lace
I found some info on Saba lace on the following: http://www.sabatourism.com/generalinfo.html#sla Scroll down the page, and you will find some info, plus a link to the Heritage Shoppe.. Agnes Boddington - drizzly Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: where do you meet?
Perhaps the combination of nature and lacemaking relaxing effects! To hear the birds on the trees and at the same time the sound of bobbins while working is marvelous. I do not like specially the sun but I do like feeling the breeze on the face. Yes, it is something very special! Hazel Smith escribió: Doesn't this sound idyllic! There's something about lacemaking in the open air that makes it the best of all. Greetings from Barcelona in a sunny and hot day. Carolina Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego Witch Stitch Lace III now available - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Outdoor lace
Not being a skier, I usually take a bobbin lace pillow on vacation with me, but have never tried doing bobbin lace outdoors there. I have taken needlelace to the top of an Austrian mountain and stood there, in the snow, stichiing one of my CG pieces ! I was only required to look up whenever my husband and 4 year old son came up the ski-lift ready to set off on another run. Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: where do you meet?
I love making lace outdoors; especially because it turns into an impromptu demonstration. People are always curious about what you are doing. We have a camper parked in a campground that we visit each weekend. I keep my travel pillow there at all times so I have something handy to work on. I noticed this weekend though that the cars and campers going past on the gravel roads were kicking up a lot of dust; my pillow is going to need a good cleaning! I also make lace on my front porch. We live on a pretty busy street. The lady who owns the yarn shop said that someone said to her there's someone on Franklin Street who is doing something that's not knitting, what is it? Amy knows I live on Franklin and knows about my bobbin lace, so she filled the lady in on my activities! See my blog for the photo of my 's Gravenmoer workshop project. Diane Williams Galena, Illinois USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dianelaces.wordpress.com Hazel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jenny De Angelis wrote: Here in our town on the Costa Brava Spain Some of the ladies that would normally attend the classes and others of us who don't, meet each Saturday afternoon for 3hours in the patio at the side of the church in town from about mid June until about mid October. The patio is a gravelled area with plane trees set in it and we sit under the trees making lace in the open air. This Saturday meeting of lace makers is informal and we just turn up when we can and leave as we please. It is a nice way to spend a few hours in the sunshine doing what we enjoy doing chatting. Doesn't this sound idyllic! There's something about lacemaking in the open air that makes it the best of all. Perhaps it's because the light is so good that makes it easier. Or perhaps it connects us more to the old-time lacemakers sitting at their doorways. Or perhaps it's just the combination of our favourite pastime and pleasant surroundings. Whatever it is, Hazel (in Oude Wetering, Holland where it is a little too cool for outdoor lacemaking today!) ___ - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Outdoor lace
Greetings, I am new to the list. i've been lurking for a couple of weeks. This is my first post. Making lace outdoors is one of my absolute favorite things to do. I live in a rural area and I frequently walk down the road to the family farm to perch under a tree and work. My other favorite place is the grounds of the Spa State Park, which is home to the National Museum of Dance and the Summer Home of the New York City Ballet. Ballet being one of my passions, I love sitting to make lace on the lovely grounds and seeing the comings and goings between the dance studios. You can actually watch classes there, but I prefer to be outside and catch the occasional glimpse of what's going on and listen to it. I bring bobbin lace, crochet lace or whatever needlework needs attention that day :) It's not too far from the town of Saratoga Springs so you can pop over there for lunch or a trip to the needlework shop. It's a place sometimes frequented by other artists, which can lead to some neat conversations. Bobbin lace tends to draw a lot of attention. :) Happy Lacing, Niamh Niamh Swan, Sailchuach Aisling small linens and finery [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Shantung Lace?
Has anyone heard of Shantung Lace? If so, what can you tell me about it? My sister-in-law purchased an old wedding dress from the 1930s the owner told her it is decorated with Shantung Lace. The lace does not look handmade to me. It has what appears to be a net (honeycomb?) ground then embroidered flowers. No thick gimps. Thanks for any help you can offer. Blessings, Shirlee - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Queen Anne's Lace and some history
Unbidden, from a non-lace natural history friend in the UK, came this statement in an e-mail: ...cow parsley aka Queen Anne's Lace - true, the Victorians decided it needed rebranding - pertinent to the OED entry, and would explain difficulty in finding earlier references. On 6/12/07, Bridget Marrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Oxford English Dictionary (full edition) gives 1894 as the first reference to Queen Anne's Lace in print - which leaves quite a wide gap. It confirms that in America, the plant so named is DAUCUS CAROTA, the Wild Carrot; whereas in England it usually refers to ANTHRISCUS SYLVESTRIS, aka Cow Parsley. Our theory that it was the Victorians who popularized the naming of 'somethings' with 'lace' would bear this out. -- Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Shantung Lace?
Never heard of shantung lace, but Shantung is wild silk, also a region/province in eastern China, so it's either silk lace or lace made in that area. Or both! Do you have a photo of the lace/ Brenda On 12 Jun 2007, at 18:50, Shirlee Hill wrote: Has anyone heard of Shantung Lace? If so, what can you tell me about it? My sister-in-law purchased an old wedding dress from the 1930s the owner told her it is decorated with Shantung Lace. The lace does not look handmade to me. It has what appears to be a net (honeycomb?) ground then embroidered flowers. No thick gimps. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lurex Thread
Hi Christine, I have just returned from Tonder where I saw the work of the said lady and spoke to her re. the threads she had used. I She was kind enough to give me a sheet of suggested threads and also suggested contacting Bart and Francis in Belguim. There web page is _www.bart-francis.be_ (http://www.bart-francis.be) . I could send the chart if you wish. They have an open day in January. They are in Kortrijk where there is a flax museum, which I am told is very good. Good hunting Anne Drew in a warm Letchworth Garden City North Herts - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lurex Thread
suggested contacting Bart and Francis in Belgium. Their web page is _www.bart-francis.be_ (http://www.bart-francis.be) . I could send the chart if you wish. I just love the English translation on their page: Shopping Place you're online orders Command all you're threats online It took me a little while to work out what they meant! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: Queen Anne's Lace and some history
From: Bridget Marrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] confirms that in America, the plant so named is DAUCUS CAROTA, the Wild Carrot; whereas in England it usually refers to ANTHRISCUS SYLVESTRIS, aka Cow Parsley. And this is why it will be very difficult to document when the common name changed. Common names are too variable, geographically and over time. You need some other item to confirm you're still reading about the same plant. In modern times (since the 1700s) you can generally use scientific name. But in Culpepper's time there was no standardization of names. And many, many species in the Carrot Family look the same, especially in woodblock prints. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lurex Thread
On Jun 12, 2007, at 18:59, Sue Babbs wrote: I just love the English translation on their page: Shopping Place you're online orders Command all you're threats online It took me a little while to work out what they meant! Well, even the native users of English seem to have an ever growing problem telling the difference between your and you're. But, even once you get past that, the last line does sound a bit like a message from Jihad Central, doesn't it :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] user manual warnings
Spiders, It is amazing the apparent issues people have had with various appliances and tools to warrant all manner of odd warnings in User Manuals. Yesterday I purchased a new coffeemaker as my old one died Saturday. I perused the User Manual to see what interesting dire warnings there might me, if any. I was not disappointed. Item number 10 on the list reads, Do not place this appliance on or near a hot gas or electric burner or in a heated oven. I presume there have been those trying to bake their coffee? The same manual, on the next page, informs that a short power supply cord is provided to reduce the hazards from becoming entangled in or tripping over a longer cord. Tripping over? I'd have to be ambling down the countertop, and I rather prefer to walk on the floor, thank you very much! Fortunately, the next entry informs me that I may purchase an extension cord if I exercise care in its use. Of course, this is a Mr Coffee 12-cup coffeemaker I wonder if other brands have similar warnings about not baking your drip coffeemaker. Thurlow sunny Lancaster, Ohio To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: user manual warnings
On Jun 12, 2007, at 18:05, Thurlow Weed wrote: It is amazing the apparent issues people have had with various appliances and tools to warrant all manner of odd warnings in User Manuals. The general rule of thumb is: if something mindbogglingly stupid *can* be done, someone will do it. And then sue *your* pants off for not stopping them (remember the case of McDonald's-hot-coffe-meet-crotch?). Hence the Self-Defense (or Preemptive Disclaimer) Manuals also known as User Manuals. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that every company has a team of bright sparks (probably males of high school age) thinking up the weirdest possible scenarios and then putting them in manuals as do not do this. Has to be cheaper than prolonged court cases :) Yesterday I purchased a new coffeemaker [...] Do not place this appliance on or near a hot gas or electric burner or in a heated oven. But, but, but... Isn't that how you reheat the leftovers? On the burner or in the oven? Of course it is. The same manual, on the next page, informs that a short power supply cord is provided to reduce the hazards from becoming entangled in or tripping over a longer cord. Tripping over? I'd have to be ambling down the countertop, No, no, no. Ever since most appliances shortened their cords severely, I've had to use extension cords, two joined, to make sure that my electric kettle is where I want it -- near the sink (to fill with water) and near me (to empty into the cup). You see, it's plugged in accross the room... I do try to keep the cord taped to the floor with duct tape but it *will* get unstuck when the floor is washed, and then you *do* trip over it... Actually, even *with* the duct tape securing the cord to the floor, I *still* trip over the bumpy couplings. I can tell you've never been a blonde... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) Various funnies
I like the second one best! Jeanette Fischer, still sitting in Dubai. A young girl from Donegal leaves home to find work in the bright lights of London. She comes home 6 months later and steps out of a taxi wearing a full- length mink coat. Begorrah, Colleen, says her mother. Tis a lovely soft coat yer wearin' an' it looks so expensive. Where did ye get that? Colleen replies, Sure now, I won it at the bingo. Don't they have wonderful prizes in London? When the weekend's over, Colleen returns to the bright lights, but she's back to visit her mum a few months later. This time, when she steps out of the taxi, she's wearing a beautiful gold wristwatch and a large diamond ring. Same exchange with Mum...same Won it at bingo! Colleen returns to the bright lights again. A few months later, she's back. This time she's sporting a beautiful emerald and diamond necklace with matching bracelet and earrings. She hands her mother 1,000 pounds and explains that she won it all in bingo. Then she asks Mum to run her a bath as she needs to freshen up. When Colleen gets to the washroom, there's only a quarter inch of hot water in the bathtub. Colleen, a wee bit peeved at her Mum being so cheap with the hot water after being handed 1,000 pounds, calls downstairs, Mum! Sure now, didn't I ask you to run me a bath? There's only a quarter inch of water in the tub! Indade there is, me darlin, replies her Mum. But we don't want ye getting yer bingo card wet now, do we? You can never fool Mum! -- Manure: In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship and it was also before commercial fertilizer's invention, so large shipments of manure were common. It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by product is methane gas. As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen. Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern, BM! Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just what was happening. After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the term Ship High In Transit on them, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane. Thus evolved the term S.H.I.T , (Ship High In Transport) which has come down through the centuries and is in use to this very day. You probably did not know the true history of this word. Neither did I. I had always thought it was a golf term - You've all heard of the Air Force's ultra-high-security, super-secret base in Nevada, known simply as Area 51? Well, late one afternoon, the Air Force folks out at Area 51 were very surprised to see a Cessna landing at their secret base. They immediately impounded the aircraft and hauled the pilot into an interrogation room. The pilot's story was that he took off from Vegas, got lost, and spotted the Base just as he was about to run out of fuel. The Air Force started a full FBI background check on the pilot and held him overnight during the investigation. By the next day, they were finally convinced that the pilot really was lost and wasn't a spy. They gassed up his airplane, gave him a terrifying you-did-not- see-a-base briefing, complete with threats of spending the rest of his life in prison, told him Vegas was that-a-way on such-and-such a heading, and sent him on his way. The day after that though, to the total disbelief of the Air Force, the same Cessna showed up again. Once again, the MP's surrounded the plane...only this time there were two people in the plane. The same pilot jumped out and said, Do anything you want to me, but my wife is in the plane and you have to tell her where I was last night! -- Maxigate business server solutions: http://www.maxisoft.co.za/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
