[lace] High price for handmade Roumanian lace on ebay

2008-04-26 Thread Kate Henry
130215900660 opens at  $950.00. Shipping (and handling!) from Ontario Canada 
to US, $75.  Seller has a 1 feedback. First bidder has a 0 feedback. Seller 
confirms price, and 8 months construction time. Makes me wonder


Kate
Indiana USA

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Re: [lace] Tatting

2008-04-26 Thread Adele Shaak
 I have taught a large number of people to tat over the years, but 
failed miserably
with others who I now pass on to a local friend and she has had some 
success

with them (and vice versa).


Often if I try something and simply cannot do it, and then put it aside 
for a while (weeks, months) when I go back to it I can learn it easily. 
It's as if my brain subtly worked on the problem and trained itself 
while I wasn't thinking about the task at all.


That happened when I taught myself to make bobbin lace. I tried making 
bobbin lace from a book and after a week or so of heavy effort, gave up 
in frustration. I simply could not figure it out. Several months later 
I decided to try again, using the same supplies and the same book, and 
at that time, without further study, I could understand lacemaking 
without any trouble.


This may be another reason a second or third teacher "succeeds" when 
the first ones didn't - maybe it took the student some time to meet 
with another teacher and their brain was working in the background, 
training itself to learn, all that time.


Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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RE: [lace] what did you do before bobbin lace

2008-04-26 Thread Angel Skubic
Haa Haa Agnes,

Able-bodied...my doctor may not agree with you on that one. Supposedly I am
not able bodied I have nerve damage in my dominant arm and hand as well as
chronic pain down my entire left side that is moving to my right as well, a
badly damaged upper and lower back that is the cause of all that pain (in
cahoots with those nasty malfunctioning nerves)etc, etc...
However, I won't let my hands be idle. I figure the day I stop using them I
will have to give up all these things I love to do so I keep rotating them
so my hands can't get too used to and complain about any "one" craft hurting
me. Never say neverkeep on lacing guys!!!

Cearbhael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Agnes Boddington
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:10 PM
To: Angel Skubic; lace
Subject: Re: [lace] what did you do before bobbin lace

Hi Angel and fellow spieders
May I just say that you are an inspiration to all of us.
We may not have perfect eyesight and or a bit of arthritis, but we are 
able-bodied.
Agnes Boddington - warm and sunny Elougthon UK

Angel Skubic wrote:

>Haha Clay...
>
>What don't I do? I do anything and everything, short of weaving when it
>comes to textiles/fiber. Not that I wouldn't like to weave but where would
I
>stick a loom? My house is already so overcrowded!!! Ah to weave an oriental
>rug or two...or a tapestry... 
>I spin (and I buy the fleece and wash it and card it etc) I knit, crochet,
>and tat. I do both cross stitch and needlepoint. I can hook rugs. (however,
>there is so much yet to explore in that direction) I sew and have designed
>my own patterns. I have designed a quilt...and that is just fiber and
>textiles. I also do chain mail. (and chain jewelry) I can make metal into a
>fabric for clothing or just make very lovely bracelets. I also make evening
>bags that were inspired by the Victorian chain evening bags (micro chain
>mail...very small links) To this and to the textiles I often will add
>beadwork. I have a notion to make a beaded shade for an antique lamp of
>mine. (with the original shade framework)
>Besides the textile and metal work, I also am an artist. I like to
>draw...have been doing it since I was 2 according to my mum. I painted with
>water color and acrylics in high school and beyond. I am now thinking about
>exploring pastels.
>Being handicapped I have LOTS of time on my hands. I can't stand it when my
>hands are idle so I craft and craft and craft some more...gifting people
>with bracelets, earrings, throws, socks, hats and mittens, and occasionally
>a large cross stitch or needle work piece to frame and hang on their walls.
>The hardest craft I do is lace and I took that up inspired by a picture
book
>of antique laces. I figured...DANG... once upon a time, somewhere in the
>world, people made it by hand. I refused to believe the craft was totally
>lost and searched until I found some British sources. They had British
books
>on British lace. I quickly embraced the Buckspoint lace and have never
>looked back. I STILL do all the other things as well. Yeah...I am a tad
>crazy but, I am never bored.
>
>Cearbhael  
>
>  
>
>

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[lace] Binch on ebay/Maltese lace

2008-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have been asked to forward this mesage, due to her Computer problems that
won't seem to send the messages through.  I offered to forward any messages
Christine liked to send to the list, - as we can't let her off with just being
a lurker, can we?!!!  :))

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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Subject: FW: Binche on e-bay / Maltese Lace

 Hi fellow lace enthusiasts,

 Liz Ligeti has kindly agrees to forward any posts until my problem is sorted
out. (The post that I thought was private ended up on the list, so I tried
using the same address to post this - and it didn't appear on the digest).

 The design on the handkerchief border recently sold on e-bay is pictured in
Pat Earnshaw's "Lace in Fashion"  - chapter 5, "The Twentieth Century".  I
have always rather liked this pattern and when I asked Anne-Marie would she
consider drawing up a straight version of  "'t Hertje" (a request made by
several others as well), this was the pattern I had in mind, but at the time
couldn't remember where I had seen it, and it wasn't what she did - not that I
don't love the pattern she did draw up, even though I haven't seen it worked
yet.

 The piece on ebay is very nicely worked and has been kept in very good
condition.

 Speaking of which, I have to tell you of my latest indiscretion. At a recent
Vintage Lace and Linens fair in Sydney, I was thrilled to be able to purchase
a 2.5 metre Maltese lace shawl/mantilla from around 1860 in almost mint
condition (and it seems to be closer to white than the golden colour of many
pieces of Maltese lace) - it had been made as part of a wedding outfit and had
almost no wear-and-tear. It cost me significantly less than the Binche
handkerchief (so it won't really affect my retirement date - still many years
away, but any indulgent purchases get assessed in terms of how long I will
have to defer my retirement to pay for them!)

 Christine Johnson

(Sydney, Australia)

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[lace] to tat, or (k)not

2008-04-26 Thread bevw
Hi everyone

I taught myself tatting years ago, from a library book and a piece of
string.
Seeing the knot transfer in a large 'format' gave me the confidence to work
with shuttle and thread.
Maybe the string idea will work for someone else, too.

I then made quite a few pieces by following a photograph of the item, rather
than written instructions.
But that was then.
Tatting is something I cannot do any more.
There is something between brain and fingers that simply makes me dislike
doing it, akin to being forced to write with the non-dominant hand.

Now 'all' I can do is bobbin lace. And appreciate the tatting that others do
so well ;)

-- 
Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)

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[lace] Tatting

2008-04-26 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Jeri, trying different teachers for tatting is a very good hint..   I have
taught a large number of people to tat over the years, but failed miserably
with others who I now pass on to a local friend and she has had some success
with them (and vice versa).  I find it much easier to get someone started on
bobbin lace than to teach them to tat.

I've posted this poem of mine before, but it was a long time ago:

LEARNING TO TAT

I'm learning how to tat today
They say I'll be just fine.
All you need's a bit of patience
A shuttle and some twine.
They say use twine to start with -
Nice and big and thick,
So I can see the stitches
And I'll know where to unpick.

Now, under, over under,
And pull the cotton tight.
But before you do make sure it's loose
Or it won't come out right!
I can see I've got a knot there
It's as plain as plain can be
But they tell me it's the wrong stitch
It should be upside down you see.

Under, over, under -
Loose, tight, what a laugh!
This time they say it's perfect
Now try the other half!
Over now and under
Loose, tight, and pull away.
But still they tell me once again
It should go the other way!

Start again with patience,
Under, over, under, it will come.
Then over under - or under over?
My fingers seem all thumb.
Try another, and another,
Hang on, that stitch just flipped!
Whoopee, I know now what I'm doing
I'm tatting, I've got it whipped

Noelene in Cooma
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> Buried in Sue's list was the above tatting comment..  If you are  having
> problems with tatting, may I suggest you ask different people to try to
teach
> you?  It was my 4th teacher that  succeeded!
> Jeri  Ames

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Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hi Fran

There is a bone bobbin and an ivory bobbin on my bobbin materials page
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/bobbins/materials.html
2nd and 3rd pictures going down the page.

It's impossible to tell just from pictures; Carole has already posted a 
few tests, but in practice the vast majority of lace bobbins were bone. 
 Even in the days when no-one thought it wrong to kill elephants for 
their tusks ivory was a rare and expensive material but pig, cow and 
horse bones were readily available.  Lacemaking was a cottage industry, 
undertaken mostly by women, whose husbands were Ag Labs and they just 
didn't have the money for ivory.  They used whatever was around - bone 
or fruit woods.


Brenda

Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown 
alongside bone bobbins?


And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory 
bobbin and a bone bobbin?


I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing 
list for an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th 
century.


I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of 
course, would do so without any identifying information.




Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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Re: [lace] what did you do before bobbin lace

2008-04-26 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hi Angel and fellow spieders
May I just say that you are an inspiration to all of us.
We may not have perfect eyesight and or a bit of arthritis, but we are 
able-bodied.

Agnes Boddington - warm and sunny Elougthon UK

Angel Skubic wrote:


Haha Clay...

What don't I do? I do anything and everything, short of weaving when it
comes to textiles/fiber. Not that I wouldn't like to weave but where would I
stick a loom? My house is already so overcrowded!!! Ah to weave an oriental
rug or two...or a tapestry... 
I spin (and I buy the fleece and wash it and card it etc) I knit, crochet,

and tat. I do both cross stitch and needlepoint. I can hook rugs. (however,
there is so much yet to explore in that direction) I sew and have designed
my own patterns. I have designed a quilt...and that is just fiber and
textiles. I also do chain mail. (and chain jewelry) I can make metal into a
fabric for clothing or just make very lovely bracelets. I also make evening
bags that were inspired by the Victorian chain evening bags (micro chain
mail...very small links) To this and to the textiles I often will add
beadwork. I have a notion to make a beaded shade for an antique lamp of
mine. (with the original shade framework)
Besides the textile and metal work, I also am an artist. I like to
draw...have been doing it since I was 2 according to my mum. I painted with
water color and acrylics in high school and beyond. I am now thinking about
exploring pastels.
Being handicapped I have LOTS of time on my hands. I can't stand it when my
hands are idle so I craft and craft and craft some more...gifting people
with bracelets, earrings, throws, socks, hats and mittens, and occasionally
a large cross stitch or needle work piece to frame and hang on their walls.
The hardest craft I do is lace and I took that up inspired by a picture book
of antique laces. I figured...DANG... once upon a time, somewhere in the
world, people made it by hand. I refused to believe the craft was totally
lost and searched until I found some British sources. They had British books
on British lace. I quickly embraced the Buckspoint lace and have never
looked back. I STILL do all the other things as well. Yeah...I am a tad
crazy but, I am never bored.

Cearbhael  

 





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Re: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread Jean Nathan

Brian Lemin and David Springett are the authorities on lace bobbins.

In his book "Success to the Lace Pillow", David Springett says that he has 
never found an ivory bobbin, which would make sense because lacemakers 
wouldn't be able to afford ivory bobbins from the meagre amount they earned 
making lace. The bones of cattle would be used for making all sorts of 
things, and perhaps the bones of the house cow would be used like this when 
it died.


Brian Lemin has written an interesting article on the Lacefairy site:

http://bobbins.lacefairy.com/BobbinMuseum/WhatisIt.html

and, among other informative things, says "always assume bobbins and sewing 
tools are bone unless I have *very* good reason to believe otherwise"


You won't find modern elephant ivory bobbins in the UK because its use, sale 
and export is illegal unless it was hunted and collected before 1947. To 
sell ivory to another country from the UK, you must obtain an expprt license 
from Revenue and Customs and prove that it's pre1947.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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To: Lace@arachne.com
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: [lace] Bobbins bone/ivory


Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown alongside
bone bobbins?

And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory bobbin and
a bone bobbin?

I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing list for
an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th century.

I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of course,
would do so without any identifying information.

Fran. 


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Re: Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Sue
Jeri, I have a book, I have been looking at sites, I sat in front of a u tube
video thinking how easy and clear she sounded (but my fingers are stiff and
shoulders too tensed, trying to keep up with the video too.
I did go to someone at a craft lesson who tried to show me.  Again, got some,
missed some, by the end of the two hours I was so tense that I fault sick and
ill.
I need to calm and chill, and have hoped to find someone I can see locally who
would go over and over it with me guiding me until I did get it.  I tried with
a shuttle and with a needle.   Got to the end of one ring and then didn't know
where to go next.
Trouble is I am so hooked on the bobbinlace, I dont spend enough concentrating
time on the tatting.  I am determined that I will learn, but have a deadline
for the current pieces.
I dont know anyone locally who does it to help me.  I am assuming it is just
me being thick, but I will find my book and try again.
Thank you for your encouragement.  Sue T

  In a message dated 4/26/2008 12:14:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.

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Dear Would-be Tatters,

Buried in Sue's list was the above tatting comment..  If you are having
problems with tatting, may I suggest you ask different people to try to teach
you?  It was my 4th teacher that succeeded!
  Jeri Ames
  Lace and Embroidery Resource Center





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[lace] royal christening gown..again

2008-04-26 Thread Sharon
I haven't had a chance to look for a pic of the new royal gown :(  However, 
it seems to me I remember reading somewhere that the old christening gown 
had been made with a lace panel from Queen Victoria's wedding dress..which 
explains why there is just one little panel left in the fron of the dress. 
It had always been strange to me that that was all there was considering 
that the lace took many lacers something like 8 months to manufacture.  I 
believe that many years ago we discussed this very same subject (on arachne) 
and came to the conclusion that in today's money (early days of arachne) 
that the lace for Victoria's dress would cost somewhere around 4 million 
pounds.Sharon.on sunny (for a change) but cold Vancouver Island 


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Re: Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 4/26/2008 12:14:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.
 
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Dear Would-be Tatters,
 
Buried in Sue's list was the above tatting comment..  If you are  having 
problems with tatting, may I suggest you ask different people to try to  teach 
you?  It was my 4th teacher that  succeeded!



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Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Sue
My what I did before BL contains, knitting from about age 3 (more holes than 
stitches to begin with I would think).
Learned to crochet in my 20's.  Had been making many of my own clothes both 
knitted and sewing from about age 12.  Made one of my sisters wedding dress 
in 1977 plus all her bridesmaids outfits (all 6 of us).
Made outfits for our living history camping as well as 2 tents, a marque and 
a tipi from 1995 - 2006.

Did a little embroidery, have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.

Wanted to learn bobbin lace in the 1980's when I saw the kit but didn't buy 
it.  Finally found one about 12 years later which I did buy.  Tried to learn 
on my own from a book using sewing cotton but felt I didn't understand what 
I was doing and my husband searched for a video which he didn't find, but 
did find me a place to learn 2 hours each week.  I thought I would learn to 
prepare bobbins and understand the half stitch and whole stitch and would be 
find to carry on on my own.
Oh foolish me  I started lessons in September 2001, 4 years later I had 
to stop going to lessons just before my teacher retired anyway.  Just as I 
was on my last lesson, someone mention lace groups on the internet which 
sounded a weird thing, (how on earth could you learn bobbin lace on 
ine!!!  - I have learned many things since,It was 6 months after I 
stopped going  and was really missing the social side of lacemaking lessons 
that I checked out and found the groups.  Smart move.


During my 4 years of lessons I began with Torchon, did some bedfordshire, 
found some cute tape lace pieces then onto bucks point and had two lessons 
in flanders lace.  I promised myself I would continue to work through that 
book, but I am ashamed to say I haven't managed to do that.  There are so 
many patterns out there and not enough hours in a day for me to do all I 
plan.  I have tried to learn millanese braids but find my braid lace doesn't 
lay down nicely enough.  Honiton is too fine for my poor eyes, not keen on 
all those sewings either.
With Ruths help I have succeeded to learn how to manipulate my easy lace 
program and am making lace patterns inspired by motifs in other lace 
patterns and books, but adapting them to suit me better.


With all your help I have two pieces of napkin lace ready to make up once 
the other two are complete, for our 40th wedding anniversary later this 
year.  I had some lovely suggestions (have chosen several if time allows.)


Reading all your before BL entries has been a real eye opener, I thought 
many of you were real genious lacemakers who did it all, so am surprised to 
find that is not so.


I have been inspired by many and helped by a good number too, so thank you 
all.

Sue T, Dorset UK


It's been fascinating reading all your messages about what you did Before
Lace.  It looks like many of us have spent years looking for lace and 
trying
other things before finding it.  My mum taught me to knit when I was 
little,

then I taught myself crochet in my teens.  But it wasn't until I was in my
late 20s that I discovered a book about bobbin lace and I knew that was 
what I

was meant to do!


I spent the next 41/2 years trying to work out how I could find the 
equipment
to start making lace.  I flirted with tatting and macramé, and knitting 
and
crocheting lace, but they wouldn't do.  Then DH bought me a Dryad lace 
making
kit for my birthday, he was fed up with me moaning about how much I wanted 
to
make lace!  And my love affair with lace started in earnest.  23 years and 
15

days later I'm still hooked!
Alison in Essex UK, where it's a nice if windy spring day


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Re: [lace] PieceWork magazine - May/June 2008 Lace Issue

2008-04-26 Thread Barb ETx
Mine came yesterdayI was out.today is reading day.
Looks good   .-D)))
Bye now
BarbE
Texas

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  Subject: [lace] PieceWork magazine - May/June 2008 Lace Issue


  Dear Lacemakers, Collectors, Researchers,

  In the U.S., we have been waiting for this issue to come.  It is now  in
  mailboxes, and possibly in stores.

  Table of Contents are:

  1. How Did They Do That?  (Double half stitch - macrame?  Cavandoli?)
  Includes brief illustrated instructions.

  2. Russian Lace Scarf to Knit by Galina A. Khmeleva (picture on cover of
  magazine).  With instructions.

  3. Doily to Filet Crochet based on a Mary Card pattern.  With
instructions.

  4. Nicolaides Shuttles & a Ruffled Edging to Tat by Mary  Nicolaides.  With
  instructions.  Collectors: If you have old shuttles  with two posts, read
this.

  5. Esther Oldham: Collector of Fans and Lace Extraordinaire (Collection of
  the Wellesley Massachusetts Historical Society).
  _www.wellesleyhistoricalsociety.org_
(http://www.wellesleyhistoricalsociety.org) The best of Oldham's
  fan collection was donated to Museum of Fine Arts -  Boston.  All the rest
was
  donated to historical society, which is  raising funds to conserve this lace
  collection (photos of laces laid on  construction paper with plastic cover
  sheets gives confirmation as to need for  conservation).  Researchers,
please take
  note of this collection and two  locations..

  6. Lace Fan to Knit instructions & Knitted Lace Fans by Deborah  Robinson of
  U.K.  Article has interesting commentary on fan sticks.

  7. Many Lives of Old Lace article by Elizabeth Kurella and a simple  Lace
  Bridal Purse to Make (uses old handkerchief corner) by Suzanne  Rosser.
With
  instructions.

  8. Lace Socks to Knit by Ann Budd.  With instructions.

  9. Lacemaking in Ipswich Massachusetts article by Karen H. Thompson.   With
  pricking and instructions.

  On the Web (not in magazine) PieceWork has added 2 entries.   I recommend
  PieceWork site for many free patterns:

  1. Buttons to Embroider and Needle-Tat by Christen Brown.  Suggest you  copy
  and put with information you have about lace buttons.
  pieceworkmagazine.com/go/projects/embroideredtattedbuttons.asp

  2. Textile Travels: Part I by Gwen Blakley Kinsler, founder of Crochet
Guild
  of America - textile treasures collected in Honduras and  Guatemala.  I
  copied and placed in Arachnid Angela  Thompson's 2006 book "Textiles of
Central and
  South America".  More to  come in future months.
  pieceworkmagazine.com/go/articles/textiletravels1.asp

  Jeri  Ames
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[lace] PieceWork magazine - May/June 2008 Lace Issue

2008-04-26 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lacemakers, Collectors, Researchers,
 
In the U.S., we have been waiting for this issue to come.  It is now  in 
mailboxes, and possibly in stores.
 
Table of Contents are:
 
1. How Did They Do That?  (Double half stitch - macrame?  Cavandoli?)  
Includes brief illustrated instructions.
 
2. Russian Lace Scarf to Knit by Galina A. Khmeleva (picture on cover of  
magazine).  With instructions.
 
3. Doily to Filet Crochet based on a Mary Card pattern.  With  instructions.
 
4. Nicolaides Shuttles & a Ruffled Edging to Tat by Mary  Nicolaides.  With 
instructions.  Collectors: If you have old shuttles  with two posts, read this.
 
5. Esther Oldham: Collector of Fans and Lace Extraordinaire (Collection of  
the Wellesley Massachusetts Historical Society). 
_www.wellesleyhistoricalsociety.org_ 
(http://www.wellesleyhistoricalsociety.org) The best of Oldham's 
fan collection was donated to Museum of Fine Arts -  Boston.  All the rest was 
donated to historical society, which is  raising funds to conserve this lace 
collection (photos of laces laid on  construction paper with plastic cover 
sheets gives confirmation as to need for  conservation).  Researchers, please 
take 
note of this collection and two  locations.. 
 
6. Lace Fan to Knit instructions & Knitted Lace Fans by Deborah  Robinson of 
U.K.  Article has interesting commentary on fan sticks.  
 
7. Many Lives of Old Lace article by Elizabeth Kurella and a simple  Lace 
Bridal Purse to Make (uses old handkerchief corner) by Suzanne  Rosser.  With 
instructions.
 
8. Lace Socks to Knit by Ann Budd.  With instructions.
 
9. Lacemaking in Ipswich Massachusetts article by Karen H. Thompson.   With 
pricking and instructions.
 
On the Web (not in magazine) PieceWork has added 2 entries.   I recommend 
PieceWork site for many free patterns:
 
1. Buttons to Embroider and Needle-Tat by Christen Brown.  Suggest you  copy 
and put with information you have about lace buttons.
pieceworkmagazine.com/go/projects/embroideredtattedbuttons.asp
 
2. Textile Travels: Part I by Gwen Blakley Kinsler, founder of Crochet  Guild 
of America - textile treasures collected in Honduras and  Guatemala.  I 
copied and placed in Arachnid Angela  Thompson's 2006 book "Textiles of Central 
and 
South America".  More to  come in future months.
pieceworkmagazine.com/go/articles/textiletravels1.asp
 
Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center



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Re: [lace] ANZAC Day

2008-04-26 Thread Sue Babbs
Thank you so much - that explains why there were cards from Cairo and allsorts
of other places.
Sue
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  "Sue Babbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  > Also 9 embroidered cards from her brother Albert between 1916 &  1918.
  > Albert
  > and her other brother Will had emigrated to Australia on 18 January 1912,
  > but
  > returned to fight in WWI. Albert was in the 2nd Battalion of the New
South
  > Wales Company, 1st Australia Division. Albert & Will returned to
Australia
  > after the war.

  If you are at all interested, you can search the Australian Archives online
  for info on WWI service:
  http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/army-wwi.a
spx

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[lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread Carole Lassak
I just found an interesting website that gives hints on distinguishing ivory
and bone (plus other similar materials.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/lazyjacks/button2.htm

This is an excerpt:

Ivory

No odour with hot needle test. Hard to penetrate. May leave a brown residue
in the immediate burned area.

  a.. Very fine grain, almost tooth-like.
  b.. Colour can be white to deep cream.
  c.. Takes a very high polish, usually very fine workmanship, almost like a
waxy lustre.
  d.. With a sharp knife one can NOT scrape off a fine powder as on bone.
  e.. Very old ivory buttons may need a curved needle to be sewed on.
  f.. Can NOT be softened enough to mould.
  g.. Cracking may be caused by heat and humidity.
  h.. Will look white under a black light. Works best if done in a dark
area. (Black light is UV light. Avoid shining into your eyes.)
  i.. If placed in water it will float, or sink very slowly Bone

No odour with the hot needle test.

  a.. Use a magnifying glass to see tiny black flex from the blood vessels
in the bone, called "splinters".
  b.. Grain lines go in one direction, colours can be white to deep cream.
  c.. With a sharp knife one can scrape off a very fine powder. Usually not
self-shank. Can be dyed.
  d.. Coarser or porous look.
  e.. Cannot be softened enough to mould .
  f.. May yellow with age.

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[lace] Bobbins bone/ivory

2008-04-26 Thread John & Fran
Does anyone know of a site where some ivory bobbins might be shown alongside 
bone bobbins?


And does anyone know how to tell the difference between an ivory bobbin and 
a bone bobbin?


I'm asking because this topic has come up in a genealogical mailing list for 
an area in Britain where lace makers were common in the 19th century.


I would like to post relevant responses back to that list but, of course, 
would do so without any identifying information.


Fran. 


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Re: [lace] ANZAC Day

2008-04-26 Thread John & Fran

"Sue Babbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Also 9 embroidered cards from her brother Albert between 1916 &  1918. 
Albert
and her other brother Will had emigrated to Australia on 18 January 1912, 
but

returned to fight in WWI. Albert was in the 2nd Battalion of the New South
Wales Company, 1st Australia Division. Albert & Will returned to Australia
after the war.


If you are at all interested, you can search the Australian Archives online 
for info on WWI service:
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/army-wwi.aspx 


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