[lace] Lace through the Ages
I wish to make my grandaughter a series of pictures showing dress through the ages - Stuart, Georgian, Regency etc made in Honiton or Milanese laces. Can anyone please help and let me know where I may obtain patterns and instructions. Many thanks Regards Margaret Greenway - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bone /ivory bobbins
Hi All, An interesting theme! I also have an ivory bobbin. One of my father's elder brothers was in the Army, in India, and brought the bobbin home - I can't verify much about it now, as he died at the outbreak of war (TB, brought on by service in India, and playing the trumpet in the Regimental band) but it is definitely ivory. I have no idea whether these ivory bobbins were made as 'one-off' specials - I suspect so, as the ivory would have been too expensive for any local lacemakers, and possibly the British services and administrators were the only ones to have the money to pay for such 'fancy' items. Carol - in Suffolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] to tat, or (k)not
Hi All, This 'tatty' theme has made me smile in reminiscence! Many years ago, Essex (UK) Lace Makers used to hold monthly 'At Home' meetings, and one of the venues was in my home. Someone saw the very grubby and elderly piece of tatting, still partly attached to shuttle and hanky, and said she couldn't do tatting for love nor maney.I blithely said I'd show her. Well - how the mighty are fallen!I just couldn't get the stitch to work, so retired very red-faced!I resolved, there and then, to retrieve Rebecca (I think) someone's book, and relearn to tat.I took the book, several shuttles, and several reels of thread away on a holiday, thinking that I'd have miles of tatting to show for the holiday.No such luck. There were seven ways of tatting in the book - the inference being that, if you couldn't do any of them, you were just beyond the pale. I couldn't! I used miles of thread, but didn't succeed.It was only when I came home, and attended one of the Woodbridge Art Club meetings that a friend taught me yet another method, and i haven't looked back. But I still remember the anguish of that 'At Home' day ... Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: [lace] to tat, or (k)not Hi everyone I taught myself tatting years ago, from a library book and a piece of string. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace through the Ages
The Allhallows Museum in Honiton sold (and maybe still does) exactly what you're looking for. I used to have the set, which is very beautiful. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/allhallows/honiton/ On 28 Apr 2008, at 05:35, peter greenway wrote: I wish to make my grandaughter a series of pictures showing dress through the ages - Stuart, Georgian, Regency etc made in Honiton or Milanese laces. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace through the ages
Hi Margaret A few years ago Pat Perryman produced a nice little booklet that might be of interest to you Twelve periods of fashion in Honiton lace 1400 - 1920 12 designs of ladies in period costume each pricking is accompanied by a full size photo and some information about the fashion at the time. There are no instructions for the lacemaking. The booklet can be obtained direct from Pat, or it may also be available from the Allhallows museum. I would try the museum website first as Pat does not have email. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/allhallows/ Annette in Trentham Vic. Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bone/Ivory bobbins
I have a very large collection of old bone lace bobbins but as far as I'm aware only one old ivory. Certainly your working lacemaker would not have been able to afford such a luxury. Give a thought to the missionaries and people such as Miss Channer who could have acquired locally made ivory bobbins which must surely have been available or could be commissioned in India and Africa. Certainly in India many girls were taught to make lace by the nuns and missionaries - Miss Channer taught lacemaking at the mission at Kalimpong - so surely bobbins were produced locally. The photographs I have of lacemakers in India are not clear enough to be sure, Ceylon workers are using wooden bobbin but in Madagascar they seem to have bone/ivory. Diana in Northamptonshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: uploud pictures
Hello Lacefriends, think I need your help. I want uploud two new pictures into my foto- album http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date again everything looks new, so I clicked uplod new than chose the picture from my PC and wait, but nothing happened. After tried several time I am wroting to you for help. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: uploud pictures
Ilske I think you need to click on your sub-directory first, and then on upload more add files choose the names of the files you want to update check that the album title is correct with your name in it then click upload at the bottom of the page. Finally click on save all edits and view album. Now I have to work out how to remove the anemone photo I used as a test! Sue - Original Message - From: Ilske Thomsen To: Arachne Arachne Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: [lace] Re: uploud pictures Hello Lacefriends, think I need your help. I want uploud two new pictures into my foto- album http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date again everything looks new, so I clicked uplod new than chose the picture from my PC and wait, but nothing happened. After tried several time I am wroting to you for help. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI convention
I got my notification today! I'm in Anny's Binche class - my first choice! I'm really excited about that!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got my notification for this summer's IOLI convention. I'll be taking Fiandra lace in the morning (with Bridget Cook) and Art Nouveau lace in the afternoon (Debbie Beever). Anyone else get their notification? Now I need to reserve a room. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] IOLI convention
Hi all, I got my notification as well and I'm so happy!! I'm in the floral beds class and the art nouveau class. August just can't come fast enough!!! Cindy - in gray, cold Wisconsin - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bone /ivory bobbins
I have one ivory midlands of the 'spinster' type, very small, smooth without surface decoration or embellishment, and one ivory honiton bobbin. I've always suspected they were gifts from India during the Raj. I'm trained in museum conservation so I did learn how to tell ivory and bone appart. One distinguishing feature that has not been mentioned is that on a large enough piece of ivory, one can see a pattern of intersecting arcs like on the face of a sunflower. Those are the growth patterns of what is essentially elephant dentine since tusks are teeth. Ivory bobbins: definitely exotic and rare. I would not be surprised if a few narwhal, morse, and whale bobbins aren't out there as well as gifts from whalers and explorers to their sweethearts. I imagine those are even rarer than ivory. If cribbage boards and gaming pieces were made from the above materials by sailors and native americans for sale to Europeans, than there must also be sewing and other textile tools made as well. Just a thought on a rainy day Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ivory? Bone? What else?
I have a couple of scrimshaw bobbins that I was given, decades and decades ago, by a sailor (the new husband, or about-to-be-husband of a lacemaker), bobbins that he made while he was on a long voyage. They could be made of bone; and they could be made of ivory. I know nothing about scrimshaw, nor what this decoration is applied to. Unlikely to be bone (bone on a long voyage?). And unlikely to be ivory, for obvious reasons ($$). So what could they be? P.S. I have tried and tried and TRIED, over these many years, to find out who the above-mentioned couple might be. No luck. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Ivory? Bone? What else?
Hello, Miss Aurelia - It might help to know where this lacemaker (and her husband) lived. According to Wikipedia, scrimshaw, ...is most commonly made out of the bones and teeth of Sperm Whales, the baleen of other whales, and the tusks of walruses. (if the underlined words show in blue, these are links from Wikipedia). So, depending where her husband's home port was, and the type of ship on which he sailed, the material could be narrowed down a little... but probably never identified for certain without a scientific analysis. And what is baleen, you ask... Again, according to Wikipedia, it is, ... not bone, but is composed of keratin, the same substance as hair, horn, claws and nails... Baleen whales have plates of hairy fringe through which they filter the organic matter on which they live. The solid part of the plate, from which the fringe emanates, is presumably the part that is used for scrimshaw. VERY interesting stuff... Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a couple of scrimshaw bobbins that I was given, decades and decades ago, by a sailor (the new husband, or about-to-be-husband of a lacemaker), bobbins that he made while he was on a long voyage. They could be made of bone; and they could be made of ivory. I know nothing about scrimshaw, nor what this decoration is applied to. Unlikely to be bone (bone on a long voyage?). And unlikely to be ivory, for obvious reasons ($$). So what could they be? P.S. I have tried and tried and TRIED, over these many years, to find out who the above-mentioned couple might be. No luck. Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: bone or ivory
As far as modern bobbin makers go, I am aware of a bobbin maker in England in the 80's who made ivory bobbins. He advertised in the Lace Guild magazine at the time, and made beautiful bobbins with an incredible finish. He even carved the bottom part that holds the spangle...into bells, hands, etc. His name was David Naylor. His bobbins had his initials inscribed into the top of the head of the bobbin. Also, a Randy Anthony in Georgia did scrimshaw and for a time somewhere in the late 80's to early 90's, made lace bobbins. I do believe he even attended at least one IOLI ConventionHe actually made flat sided square bobbins for awhile, before he started turning them into round shapes. He would make designs by request. Debbie in Florida [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] All so helpful
You are all founts of information, thank you for all your advice on the half stitch. I have started off the half stitch trail without an extra twist as per the instructions, so I will keep it that way so that it is uniform. But I shall know what to do in the future. The handkerchief is working up well at present (with the odd patch of penelope stitch:) but I am almost at the first corner!!! Angela Simpson. Newton-Le-Willows, Merseyside, England. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] ebay item #130215900660
I wrote to the seller of the Romanian point lace piece(s? on ebay, this is the answer I received. Hi sorry for being late to respond this piece is ready made it's only one set that my aunt made. it's one piece for the centre table and 5 small pieces for small tables - ayazeji If this is a set of 5 pieces, 1 large and 5 small, then the listing is rather misleading, to my way of thinking. And they still want rather a lot for it. Lorri - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Ivory? Bone? What else?
Scrimshaw is the etching of lines ie. words or pictures into any surface, but usually ivory. The lines are etched (scraped) into the surface and then ink is introduced. The excess ink is wiped away leaving that recessed into the etched lines. Scrimshaw is the art of the etching not the material etched into. I did a little of this during my years as a jeweler. Lorri -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a couple of scrimshaw bobbins that I was given, decades and decades ago, by a sailor (the new husband, or about-to-be-husband of a lacemaker), bobbins that he made while he was on a long voyage. They could be made of bone; and they could be made of ivory. I know nothing about scrimshaw, nor what this decoration is applied to. Unlikely to be bone (bone on a long voyage?). And unlikely to be ivory, for obvious reasons ($$). So what could they be? P.S. I have tried and tried and TRIED, over these many years, to find out who the above-mentioned couple might be. No luck. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Ivory? Bone?Baleen
The only baleen I have seen was black. Has anyone else seen white baleen? Lorri And what is baleen, you ask... Again, according to Wikipedia, it is, ... not bone, but is composed of keratin, the same substance as hair, horn, claws and nails... Baleen whales have plates of hairy fringe through which they filter the organic matter on which they live. The solid part of the plate, from which the fringe emanates, is presumably the part that is used for scrimshaw. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Ivory? Bone? What else?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---And what is baleen, you ask... Again, according to Wikipedia, it is, ... not bone, but is composed of keratin, the same substance as hair, horn, claws and nails... --- But baleen is black. I think it can be bleached to medium brown, but I don't think you can get it white enough for scrimshaw. And it's a *whole* lot softer than ivory or bone. It can be easily carved into chunks with a knife or scalpel, about like cartilage (gristle in meat), not like horn or claws. My impression is that scrimshaw is somewhat like etching, and I can't see doing that on baleen. True whale bones, sure. Whale teeth (the whales that don't have baleen), sure. But baleen? just my opinion, Robin P. Los Angeles, California - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Ivory? Bone?Baleen
In Alaska I saw baleen many, many times. The Alaskan Inupiat hunt bowhead whales every year and are entitled to sell the baleen. Long pieces of baleen displayed on living room walls is a common sight in Alaskan homes. It is black, 8 to 10 feet long, and looks like a giant fingernail with a fringe of hair along one of the long sides. It's flexible and strong at the same time. I've seen ivory carvings decorated with small inset pieces of baleen, and there is an Inupiat family who make tiny baskets of woven baleen. I've only seen black ones. Sally Schoenberg Farmington New Mexico - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Underwear Dust
Don't mess with us :) From: R.P. One evening, a husband, thinking he was being funny, said to his wife: 'Perhaps we should start washing your clothes in Slim Fast. Maybe it would take a few inches off of your butt!' His wife was not amused, and decided that she simply couldn't let such a comment go unrewarded. The next morning the husband took a pair of underwear out of his drawer. 'What the Hell is this?' he said to himself as a little dust cloud appeared when he shook them out. 'April,' he hollered into the bathroom, 'why did you put talcum powder in my underwear?' She replied ...'It's not talcum powder..It's 'Miracle Grow' -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
