[lace] Textile storage
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Fw: [lace] Re: teachers and mistakes (was: Starting and finishing)
Alice Howell wrote: Most of the time I do reverse lace to find a problem, but sometimes it's just not worth it. If it's a gift for someone, then I make extra fforts. I had a great lace teacher. One of her sayings was that, if it's back "too far" (and that's the tricky part), a mistake should be declared an Act of God and just go on with the piece. If someone showed her their problem, she would say, "If it were me" In other words, you can do as she would have done, or you can ignore her suggestion and do something else. She was a perfect teacher for me. The first two lessons were specific pattern (although even the first lesson was a choice of 3 patterns that would teach the same techniques). After that, she brought in all sorts of books, patterns, and samples, and we would pick whatever inspired us. Then she would help us work it out. That's how my third project was a Skansk (pins only at the edges) pictorial of angels and poinsettias. Boy, was that a challenge for a beginner! But I sure learned a lot. I continued with her for several years, until she stopped teaching. In all that time, we had one disgruntled student who left because there was no structure to the class, no lesson plan. Robin P. I was given a new pattern each time to learn one or several new techniques for the first couple of years or so which suited me. After than she did give me books to look through to choose which pattern I wanted to work which is how I came to work the Rockinghorse.She appeared to have a few patterns she got all the new starters to work but not everyone got the same patterns. I did see one being worked by 2 lace makers and asked her not to give me that one, right choice then but would tackle it now, There were areas of her teaching which didn't explain things well enough for new beginners who struggled which was what set me down the path of printing off small bits of pattern and checking the route of the working threads like you might follow a road map. It has certainly helped me over the years. Two of the other ladies have since given up but I continue working my lace on my own and with all the help so generously given through the lists. We also had the opportunity to buy secondhand books through her which had belonged to retiring lacemakers. Sue T, Dorset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: Fw: [lace] Re: teachers and mistakes (was: Starting and finishing)
I must have had the worst teacher ever, won't mention her name, as some of you may know her. I went to a mixed needlework class in the mid-nineties, and found that there was one other lady of 73 wanting to learn bobbin lace. The rest of the group all wanted to learn tatting, embroidery etc. I had recently bought a Dryad kit, and wanted to know how and where to start; not knowing anything about bobbin lace and the different varieties of lace there are. The teacher started us both of on the "bandage" pattern that comes with the kit. No instructions on how to wind the bobbins, how to start etc. were given, just a short demonstration and then for us "to get on with it". She was horrid to the individuals in class, upstaging my fellow lace maker with public comments "another one that cannot count to four" etc. As I was teaching adult ed myself (languages), I had a quiet word with her about her behaviour towards the class, most of whom were pensioners. I myself was 42 at the time, and a tatter was under 50. After a couple of classes we gave up going, and continued by ourselves. Audrey became and is still a firm friend, but never took to bobbin lace, so in the end I continued on my own, and learned most things the hard way. After a couple of years work pressures forced me to give up altogether. Eventually my work load was reduced and I picked my bobbins up again and Mike (now retired) made me the bobbins he'd always promised me. Through selling bobbins on ebay, I eventually met (or rather re-met) Sue Duckles, who lives local and introduced me to two local lace groups. We now go to class together, lace fairs, lace meetings, and next month on a course with Christine Springett. The first time for Sue, the fourth time for me. I often wonder, whether I would now be a better lace maker, had I had a better, more people-friendly teacher then. I probably would not have given up so quickly at the time. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK where the sun is just coming through. Sue wrote: Alice Howell wrote: Most of the time I do reverse lace to find a problem, but sometimes it's just not worth it. If it's a gift for someone, then I make extra fforts. I had a great lace teacher. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] a question, mostly for the designers
I recently put together some elements of lace pattern to make a hanky edge and am about 1/3 through working it. It is working up quite pretty, rather than just OK, so that is nice to see. I made up a corner pattern which is one quarter of the pattern, printed it off twice and thats coming on fine, by the time all the pins are away from the join, I can take it off and they both get used twice. What I have found is that because I have flipped the pattern strip to fit at the corner, I have the working lines going in opposite directions, therefore when I get to the centre side join I found the change. I have ignored those lines and worked them all the same, so guess I need to learn not to flip the pattern in that way, for the future. Also, having got this far with my hanky I am thinking about working a garter, this time the complete width and in nice crisp cotton, using the shirring elastic I know some of you use, but wondered if between you all there are some really favourite elements you always use, or do you choose to do them all differently (obviously that last question for those who have done more than one). At the moment I am thinking of what I might put in before I try putting some bits together on the program. I am bound to have missed something but may remember later. Sue T Dorset, UK Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers
Hi Sue, Are you talking about designing with Lace R-XP? If so, do you have Ruth's book? Page 24-25 will answer your questions re turning the corner :) (Discovered this at a workshop recently...it really works! ) Warm regards, Laura Forrester @>++ laura_ros...@yahoo.com http://lauraslace.blogspot.com/ --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Sue wrote: From: Sue Subject: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers To: "Arachne" Received: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 3:14 AM I recently put together some elements of lace pattern to make a hanky edge and am about 1/3 through working it. It is working up quite pretty, rather than just OK, so that is nice to see. I made up a corner pattern which is one quarter of the pattern, printed it off twice and thats coming on fine, by the time all the pins are away from the join, I can take it off and they both get used twice. What I have found is that because I have flipped the pattern strip to fit at the corner, I have the working lines going in opposite directions, therefore when I get to the centre side join I found the change. I have ignored those lines and worked them all the same, so guess I need to learn not to flip the pattern in that way, for the future. Also, having got this far with my hanky I am thinking about working a garter, this time the complete width and in nice crisp cotton, using the shirring elastic I know some of you use, but wondered if between you all there are some really favourite elements you always use, or do you choose to do them all differently (obviously that last question for those who have done more than one). At the moment I am thinking of what I might put in before I try putting some bits together on the program. I am bound to have missed something but may remember later. Sue T Dorset, UK Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers
Hello Sue What I have found is that because I have flipped the pattern strip to fit at the corner, I have the working lines going in opposite directions, therefore when I get to the centre side join I found the change. I have ignored those lines and worked them all the same, so guess I need to learn not to flip the pattern in that way, for the future. You need to rotate the pattern rather than flip it over to avoid that problem. Alternatively you could flip it before you mark in the worker lines, Also, having got this far with my hanky I am thinking about working a garter, this time the complete width and in nice crisp cotton, using the shirring elastic I know some of you use, but wondered if between you all there are some really favourite elements you always use, or do you choose to do them all differently (obviously that last question for those who have done more than one). At the moment I am thinking of what I might put in before I try putting some bits together on the program. Are you asking do we use spiders, or roseground, or leaves or gimps or halfstitch blocks etc etc? I use them all. But not all in the same piece! If you are intending to work in just white, or any other plain colour, you need to introduce a variety of textures by using a variety of different stitches. If you are planning to use several colours then the colour itself makes pattern and you need less variety in the stitches used. The best way to get to grips with designing is to look at other people's patterns. Look at how the different fans work, try substituting rose ground for spiders (sometimes it will work, sometimes you end up with a row of plain ground). Count the pinholes to see why. Ask yourself why the designer has done something slightly different. The more you look at patterns the better you will understand them and the more confident you will get. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers
Thanks Brenda, I will have to practise the rotating. With regards to the garter, I guess it is a question of wondering what shapes you like to put into a sentimental keepsake like this, like hearts or anything else I cant think of at the moment. I am thinking of using white, but with maybe a coloured gimp outline when it fits the bill. I do play with patterns adding roseground, honeycomb, fans and spiders etc. I have also tried out some of the lessor used ones from Cook and Stott building lace patterns book, just some are obviously best suited to certain patterns than others. I am a little conservative with my colour choices although have not found a nice colour blue thread or other colours the right size to go with my white threads. Although having seen Rhiannons garter and one or two others they certainly excite and encourage us to try other colours. Maybe I need to check out the supply sites some more. I want my pieces to look nicely balanced and with enough pattern but not sooo terribly fussy it looks over the top. Asking my questions and reading the replies often helps clear my thinking, so thank you for your time and experience. Sue T Dorset, UK Bobbin Lace and Glass engravings http://www.hurwitzend.co.uk Hello Sue What I have found is that because I have flipped the pattern strip to fit at the corner, I have the working lines going in opposite directions, therefore when I get to the centre side join I found the change. I have ignored those lines and worked them all the same, so guess I need to learn not to flip the pattern in that way, for the future. > You need to rotate the pattern rather than flip it over to avoid that problem. Alternatively you could flip it before you mark in the worker lines, Also, having got this far with my hanky I am thinking about working a garter, this time the complete width and in nice crisp cotton, using the shirring elastic I know some of you use, but wondered if between you all there are some really favourite elements you always use, or do you choose to do them all differently (obviously that last question for those who have done more than one). At the moment I am thinking of what I might put in before I try putting some bits together on the program.> Are you asking do we use spiders, or roseground, or leaves or gimps or halfstitch blocks etc etc? I use them all. But not all in the same piece! If you are intending to work in just white, or any other plain colour, you need to introduce a variety of textures by using a variety of different stitches. If you are planning to use several colours then the colour itself makes pattern and you need less variety in the stitches used. The best way to get to grips with designing is to look at other people's patterns. Look at how the different fans work, try substituting rose ground for spiders (sometimes it will work, sometimes you end up with a row of plain ground). Count the pinholes to see why. Ask yourself why the designer has done something slightly different. The more you look at patterns the better you will understand them and the more confident you will get. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers
Hello Sue, I am afraid I couldn't explain it good enough but I give it a try. In such cases as you describe I totade the pattern or sometimes I make a print out of both sides and put them together. But the last depends on the pattern. At the moment I am thinking of what I might put in What do you mine by this? About the elements you want to use? In Torchon you have the choice of so many different things but be careful don't use too much on one pattern. Some elements have for example six pin points others only four, therefor you can't mix all of them at the same piece of lace. And using colours think that the colour itself is a sort of patter before I try putting some bits together on the program. Are you speaking of a Puter-programm? I am bound to have missed something but may remember later. Than you send this question later. Good luck and lots of fun Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Archival storage
A textile collection's person at the Cooper Hewitt told me that they do not favor air tight containers in that it traps the environment present at the time you close the box. I suppose this means humidity, organisms, etc. Generally, plastic is considered to "off gas", but if museum conservators say that Rubbermade is the exception to that rule, who am I to argue. At our museum we store things in acid free boxes and with acid free tissue. Ideally, the tissue should be changed from time to time. Acid free cardboard rolls are available, along with acid free boxes in every imaginable size at _http://www.talasonline.com/products/archival_storage.cfm_ (http://www.talasonline.com/products/archival_storage.cfm) . I keep all my collection in these boxes. Also, I know many private conservators put the Christening garments, etc. that they are brought in boxes that look like they come from Talas. I was once told to take old used sheets that had been washed repeatedly, so there was no sizing in them, to wrap lace in. Then I was told by another source, that this was a bad idea because they would be impregnated with body oils that would discolor the lace. At once point, I got plain muslin by the yard, washed it repeatedly and rinsed it in distilled water to wrap the lace in. I did not hem the wrapping fabric and it frayed, sometimes catching on the lace. Rather than hem fabric after elaborate washing, I now buy rolls of acid free from Talas. It is pretty inexpensive there, I think. Perhaps sometime I will decide I want to spend a few days at the sewing machine hemming muslin, but not now. _http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catalog/product_specific.cf m?ClientID=15&ProductID=24047_ (http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catalog/product_specific.cfm?ClientID=15&ProductID=24047) . A hundred sheets of buffered acid free, 20" x 30" for $18. Within conservation circles, I understand that there are two schools of thought. One of which is to use totally synthetic materials like conservation type Mylar, in that it is considered inert. The other school of thought is to use totally natural fibers, to avoid the dust attractive aspects of plastics and keep the object in a fiber that resembles it. This is almost as heated a topic as whether to wear gloves while handling lace. Some say that it protects the lace from your body oils. Others claim that, you wash your hands, and handle the pieces without gloves, because you are more clumsy in gloves and they catch on the lace. $8.85 will by you a dozen gloves at Talas. _http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catalog/product_specific.cfm?ClientID=15&ProductID=23401_ (http://apps.webcreate.com/ecom/catalog/product_specific.cfm?ClientID=15&ProductID =23401) Although I have no association with Talas, I have been happy with their products and I think they are the most reasonable in price. When you are buying a lot of boxes and acid free paper it can be pretty expensive. Some dealers, I note, sell packages of about four pieces of acid free paper at a time at a large mark-up. This is ok, if you don't need much. Devon **Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220239440x1201335902/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.taxact.com%2F08tax.asp%3Fsc%3D084102950001%26p%3D82) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace teachers
I like to hear of students who have had a good experience with teachers. I started teaching lace in the early 1970s, I knew little and had to work had to keep ahead of my students. Being a teacher by profession I started by arranging patterns, I did not have many - they were like gold dust then - into a stuctured course. I then found that the other teachers, of other crafts at the centre, would ask students what they would like to make and find suitable patterns for them to work. As I had had not experience of adult education, only school teaching, I thought this was what I should do and changed. The following year I was taken to task, very politely, by two maths teachers who had experienced the different systems and they agreed that the structured course was by far the better, as second to start learning didn't know what she didn't know and could not ask for it so that she could learn all the techniques. I then revised all my teaching schemes and built up a file of patterns and teaching notes covering all the major techniques in the English laces and have found my students prefer to follow them. I'm not rigid about it and I always say they are welcome to change laces or do any other patterns at any time but most work throught the schemes knowing that they will end up by being able to make almost any pattern they like and have a good chance of drafting paterns and even designing. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] A help : what is bertha?
Helo, spiders, Can anyone help me? http://marisa-connuestrasmanos.blogspot.com/2009/01/soles-de-tenerife-espaa.h tml In this site, in the post above - soles de tenerife - we can see the expression "bertha in teneriffe lace". Searching in the web, y saw many times the word bertha with words like patterns, collar, etc and etc. like this little texte from e-bay: "This pattern will make two pretty dresses, both with Bertha collars, and "pouf" front waistlines. Dress A has long sleeves, lace covered yoke with ruffled high collar and Tab Bertha. Dress B has short gathered sleeves and Bertha collar. Sleeves and collar are edged with lace." Can anyone tell me what this word "bertha" can says? Thanks elizabeth horta correa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 0xx11 4412-1082 ehcskype - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers
But you still have to watch the direction of the working lines on flipped pieces, Laura. Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of laura forrester Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 9:21 PM To: Sue Cc: spiders Subject: Re: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers Hi Sue, Are you talking about designing with Lace R-XP? If so, do you have Ruth's book? Page 24-25 will answer your questions re turning the corner :) (Discovered this at a workshop recently...it really works! ) Warm regards, Laura Forrester @>++ laura_ros...@yahoo.com http://lauraslace.blogspot.com/ --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Sue wrote: From: Sue Subject: [lace] a question, mostly for the designers To: "Arachne" Received: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 3:14 AM I recently put together some elements of lace pattern to make a hanky edge and am about 1/3 through working it - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lace teachers
Must admit Alex, I agree with you. I like to cover all the basic lacemaking techniques - and because I live in Australia, I use the Australian Guild's proficiency tests as a guide as to what to include. In my early years, I remember my years of floundering around, trying to work a pattern without a complete understanding of the techniques and of how to work them. I actually found it very frustrating, because I didn't think lacemaking should be such a "hit and miss" affair.I guess that, a bit like the fellow who designed the first lacemaking machine, I eventually realised and understood how the threads moved on the pillow, and once I understood that, everything else fell into place. (I should point out that I had no physical teacher). Now, students are always amazed that I can look at a pattern I've never seen before and "see" in my mind the direction the threads will take. I'm also pretty good at finding someone's "lost" worker too!! (VBG) Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stillwell Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 3:00 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Lace teachers I like to hear of students who have had a good experience with teachers. I started teaching lace in the early 1970s, I knew little and had to work had to keep ahead of my students. Being a teacher by profession I started by arranging patterns, I did not have many - they were like gold dust then - into a stuctured course. I then found that the other teachers, of other crafts at the centre, would ask students what they would like to make and find suitable patterns for them to work. As I had had not experience of adult education, only school teaching, I thought this was what I should do and changed. The following year I was taken to task, very politely, by two maths teachers who had experienced the different systems and they agreed that the structured course was by far the better, as second to start learning didn't know what she didn't know and could not ask for it so that she could learn all the techniques. I then revised all my teaching schemes and built up a file of patterns and teaching notes covering all the major techniques in the English laces and have found my students prefer to follow them. I'm not rigid about it and I always say they are welcome to change laces or do any other patterns at any time but most work throught the schemes knowing that they will end up by being able to make almost any pattern they like and have a good chance of drafting paterns and even designing. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] A help : what is bertha?
Elizabeth, a bertha is a type of collar.It is usually very wide, large, and fits right round a lower neckline. The one shown on the lady in the middle of the picture on the website you mentioned is very wide and big. That, to me, is a bertha.A collar which fits tightly round the top of the neck and is narrow or medium in width, I don't think is a bertha. Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Ellizabeth Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 6:34 AM To: Arachne.com Subject: [lace] A help : what is bertha? Helo, spiders, Can anyone help me? http://marisa-connuestrasmanos.blogspot.com/2009/01/soles-de-tenerife-espaa. h tml In this site, in the post above - soles de tenerife - we can see the expression "bertha in teneriffe lace". Searching in the web, y saw many times the word bertha with words like patterns, collar, etc and etc. like this little texte from e-bay: "This pattern will make two pretty dresses, both with Bertha collars, and "pouf" front waistlines. Dress A has long sleeves, lace covered yoke with ruffled high collar and Tab Bertha. Dress B has short gathered sleeves and Bertha collar. Sleeves and collar are edged with lace." Can anyone tell me what this word "bertha" can says? Thanks elizabeth horta correa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 0xx11 4412-1082 ehcskype - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] A help : what is bertha?
A bertha (collar) is a big round collar extending to the shoulders, supposedly named for Berthe, mother of Charlemagne. On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ellizabeth wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me what this word "bertha" can says? > > Hope this helps ;) -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] A help : what is bertha?
Hello Elizabeth A bertha, or bertha collar, is a wide collar which lies flat over the garment bodice. It's likely to be about 6-8" 15-20 cm deep. The opening is usually worn at the back. No collar should be an exact circle around the neckline, it should be slightly oval to fit around the neck and shoulders, but a bertha collar opened up and laid flat will look a bit like a wide circular edging with ends that have not yet been joined together. As in the picture on the webpage you posted. For other collar shapes see: http://www.infovisual.info/06/043_en.html Brenda On 4 Apr 2009, at 21:34, Ellizabeth wrote: Helo, spiders, Can anyone help me? http://marisa-connuestrasmanos.blogspot.com/2009/01/soles-de-tenerife- espaa.h tml In this site, in the post above - soles de tenerife - we can see the expression "bertha in teneriffe lace". Searching in the web, y saw many times the word bertha with words like patterns, collar, etc and etc. like this little texte from e-bay: "This pattern will make two pretty dresses, both with Bertha collars, and "pouf" front waistlines. Dress A has long sleeves, lace covered yoke with ruffled high collar and Tab Bertha. Dress B has short gathered sleeves and Bertha collar. Sleeves and collar are edged with lace." Can anyone tell me what this word "bertha" can says? Thanks elizabeth horta correa www.nhandutideatibaia.com.br 0xx11 4412-1082 ehcskype - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] lace teachers
the thought of their students getting better than them. This is just the reason some teachers Never tell you all you should learn! Some people are afraid of anyone knowing as much as they do. I feel sorry for them - they miss out on a lot! (and I get a bit angry about it!) I feel that if a student can make better lace than I can (and many do!) then - wow! that is good. I obviously interested them enough in the craft for them to go on and learn more and more - and become badly addicted, like the rest of us!! Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 337 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] starting and finishing
Hello all, I think it is very easy for the learner to develop an aversion to starting and finishing if they are not dealt with from the very start. I don't teach starting and finishing as being separate processes to lace making. Whether they are spangling bobbins, starting, finishing, thinking about it, designing something, it is all lace making. If one starts to comparmentalise the various stages, I think it becomes easy to say "I don't like starting" and 'I can't finish", "I just want to make lace". None of my students have the interest in, or the luxury of, saying those silly things - VBG. Having said that, I am presently trying to sort out how to start a little piece that I made up myself. I wish a magic fairy would show me what my deep subconscious was thinking when I made this piece up, and then show me how to start! - VBG!! Maybe a glass of wine would help. It is Sunday afternoon here, so why not! Best wishes, Joanne, Lake Mac, Oz. Ph: 02 4975 5201 e-mail: joa...@joscolace.com.au website: www.joscolace.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
