Re: [lace] Lace terminology
Hi Debora - I have one excellent suggestion. Alex Stillwell has been studying Bucks Point lace for many years, and to her surprise, most of the books she had seen in the past were referencing only the much older books about Bucks. So, she set out to really study Bucks Point and to examine it with a critical eye. The first result has been "All about making Geometric Bucks Point Lace", a very thorough and thought-provoking manual on this kind of lace. She addresses every single skill that you could possibly imagine in a well-thought-out series of usable projects. And each skill is carefully explained in plain English, with excellent diagrams to add to the understanding of the concept. I highly endorse this book. Not only does it subscribe to the "old" understanding of how this lace was made, it also recognizes that this lace was not consistently made anywhere on earth - not at a working lacemaker's hearth, not in the same home, not on the same piece!!! So, the lesson to modern lacemakers is to understand the fundamentals of Geometric lace, and to then apply these "rules" as best suit the piece you're working on. Having met her and studied with her, I can endorse the validity of what she says. Her books are clearly written, and are a breath of fresh air for those who want to pursue Bucks Point. She is currently working on "All about making Floral Bucks Point Lace", and this promises to elevate the art to a much higher level! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA, USA Debora Lustgarten wrote: Dear Clay, I'm working on Bucks at the moment, but I find that as I learn more about lace, my likes change My long-term goals are being able to replicate Medieval lace patterns and to try my hand at some Blonde or even Chantilly (if my sight allows, that is). I'm lucky to have found several books on Bucks, not only Mrs. Channer's. They include Pamela Nottingham's, Bridget Cook's, the UK Lace Guild introduction and others, so I think I'm covered at the moment. However, if you have suggestions, I will love to hear them! Thanks for your kind thoughts, Debora L. At 06:24 PM 30/09/2009, you wrote: Hi Deborah! I'm so glad that the others have cleared up this terminology for you... I was mystified!! Are you working in Bucks Point lace at present? Or are you still working in Torchon? If you could tell me what kind of lace you enjoy, perhaps I could suggest a more current, more "up-to-date" book which would be easier for you to follow, since you seem to have the essential skills. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Re: Lace in Translation
To All, The Lace in Translation exhibition opened last Thursday and it was a grand affair. The wine and hors d'oeuvres flowed all night as well as the interesting conversation. There was an interesting mix of people and meeting up with Nikki Nelson made the evening quite special. Everyone was a buzz with excitement about the various pieces and there was also quite a bit of interest in lacemaking as well. This exhibition will appeal not only to lacemakers but artist and textile enthusiasts alike. Info can be found on their web site http://www.laceintranslation.com/. Tina Allen - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace terminology
It's an old expression which means starting to work the pattern or getting it established on the pillow. On 30 Sep 2009, at 20:41, Debora Lustgarten wrote: I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression "setting a pattern in". What does that mean? Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] "Setting in"
Dear Clay, Ruth, Bev and Joan, You are right. I got that term from Mrs. Channer's book. I thought it meant "establishing the way the pattern works" or something like that... Thank you for your ideas and suggestions! Debora L. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lace terminology
It just means to hang in/on the bobbins and start a new pattern. I've also seen it called "setting up". Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Debora Lustgarten Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 5:42 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Lace terminology Hello all, I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression "setting a pattern in". What does that mean? Currently, I'm practising gimp-work, learning to work with passive pairs on headside scallops and valleys, and square tallies in tulle ground... Fun! Cheers, Debora L. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace terminology
To Clay, Debora and list I happened to have a copy of the booklet "Lacemaking - Point Ground" by CC Channer (The Dryad Press) - page 21, "To Wind Bobbins and Set in a Pattern" - describes the winding of the bobbins, then how-to to begin learning bobbin lace but doesn't describe per se what 'set in a pattern' might mean - I would just assume it means to 'start in.' (hang bobbins, begin the work). On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote: > > > Debora Lustgarten wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression >> "setting a pattern in". >> What does that mean? >> > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace terminology
Hi Debora and Thank you Clay! I was feeling the same way and wondering where I had missed that expression. Joan, in rainy Stayner, ON From: Clay Blackwell To: Debora Lustgarten Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:18:53 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace terminology Hi Debora - I'm fascinated... I've never heard this expression before. Could you tell us which author used it, in which book, and in what context? That might make it easier to figure out. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA Debora Lustgarten wrote: > Hello all, > I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression "setting a pattern in". > What does that mean? > Currently, I'm practising gimp-work, learning to work with passive pairs on headside scallops and valleys, and square tallies in tulle ground... Fun! > Cheers, > Debora L. > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo..com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace terminology
Hi Debora - I'm fascinated... I've never heard this expression before. Could you tell us which author used it, in which book, and in what context? That might make it easier to figure out. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA Debora Lustgarten wrote: Hello all, I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression "setting a pattern in". What does that mean? Currently, I'm practising gimp-work, learning to work with passive pairs on headside scallops and valleys, and square tallies in tulle ground... Fun! Cheers, Debora L. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace terminology
Hello all, I was reading some books about Bucks point lace and found the expression "setting a pattern in". What does that mean? Currently, I'm practising gimp-work, learning to work with passive pairs on headside scallops and valleys, and square tallies in tulle ground... Fun! Cheers, Debora L. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] lace in Grasse, France
Hi everyone, I'm just back from Nice, where I did a French immersion course. In my first French class, my teacher handed out free tourist maps of Nice with advertisements for museums in nearby Grasse known for its production of perfume. What caught my eye was a photo from the museum about life in Provence, of a women's costume with lace on it. Wow, I thought, if I can only get there! Well, Nice has a great transit system, every ride in the entire region, 1 euro. There's a central bus station (La Gare Routière) across the street from Vieux Nice (the old city) with maps and schedules posted on the walls. I had no trouble figuring out how to get to Grasse by bus. There is a train that also goes to Grasse, but I don't care for the train station pickpockets. Grasse is a medieval hilltop village in the countryside out of sight of Nice, very picturesque with panoramic views of the area. The church, which I stumbled upon early in my quest, was amazing, romanesque, very, very old. It took quite a bit of walking up and down steeply angled narrow streets to find the museum. I had pictured something big and modern like the Folk Museum in Oslo. Boy was I wrong! It's one floor upstairs in an old mansion, beautifully restored with many original touches, and it was free. There was an exhibit of bijoux (jewelry) in the first small room and then came three more similar rooms with space for a total of about 15 costumes. Each dress dummy was surrounded closely by a glass column, so it was possible to walk all the way around, and examine the details of each costume. The high tech lighting was carefully designed to light up the entire costume. Otherwise the rooms were dark and mysterious and old. The entire display was really a pleasure to see. There was an 18th century figured silk dress, no lace alas, and a early 19th century white embroidered gauze empire style dress with a beautiful drape. All of the other dresses were local Provence costumes - quilted skirts, silk aprons, jackets, and caps where I found the lace. The lace on the caps was not mentioned in the exhibit blurbs at all. It was some kind of fine point ground, nicely ruffled and in good repair. The width of most was about 1 1/2 inches. The lace on one cap had an especially nice floral design with a width of maybe 2 1/2 - 3 inches. One costume had a piece of lace that went around behind the neck, over the shoulders, and it crossed over the chest before ending at the waist. The background was a simple beige net made from twisted pairs that double stitched at pins placed on a 45 degree angle grid. Over that background, there was chainstitched a design in colors of flowers and leaves. I have no idea how it was made. This lace was mentioned briefly in the exhibit blurb - it said only that the lace was late 18th century. I've never seen anything like it, and it was very attractive. But I wouldn't have thought it was 18th century. But then again, I'm not an expert on French laces. The thread was coarser than the cap lace, maybe something similar to 80/2 or 90/2 coton. My French immersion class was a kick! I'm 59 years old, and my classmates were all in their late teens, early 20's. Everyone came from other countries, so the class had to be all French. The first class was daunting and exhausting, but I kept my chin up, and it got easier each day. Now I can hear French words! You should have seen me trying to explain tamales, tacos, and enchiladas to my German, Swiss, Spanish, and Japanese classmates, and my French teacher. I can't wait do it again. Sally Four Corners, New Mexico - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Antwoord bij afwezigheid
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Re: [lace] Mystery Tool
There are some in Germany smoking cigars. Ilske Am 30.09.2009 um 15:32 schrieb Sue Duckles: They still do in a lot of places. Cuba for example!! Sue in EY On 30 Sep 2009, at 14:15, Clay Blackwell wrote: Hi Shirley - Yes, I think it was fairly common in those days for ladies to smoke cigars... ugh! Clay Tregellas Family wrote: Wow!! It seems I opened the floodgates with my mystery item Having only posted not quite 24 hours ago I now have over 50 responses, far, far too many to reply to individually. So this is my heartfelt thanks to you all for your suggestions. I have finally discovered that we have been pondering over a cigar cutter. My DH explained it to me - when a person chews off the end of a cigar they are really releasing the sealed end of the cigar so that one can draw air through the cigar, hence have a good smoke. So, our little tool pokes a hole in the end of the cigar. Voila!!! it can now be smoked with pleasure. Someone suggested that the lady of the house hid the cigar cutter in her sewing box to stop her DH from smoking but methinks it might have been the lady herself smoking the cigar. Didn't the Victorian/Edwardian lady sometimes smoke a cigar after dinner? Thanks again everyone, Shirley T. - off to make some lace now. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com Regards Sue. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Mystery Tool
They still do in a lot of places. Cuba for example!! Sue in EY On 30 Sep 2009, at 14:15, Clay Blackwell wrote: > Hi Shirley - > > Yes, I think it was fairly common in those days for ladies to smoke > cigars... > ugh! > > Clay > > Tregellas Family wrote: >> Wow!! It seems I opened the floodgates with my mystery >> item >> Having only posted not quite 24 hours ago I now have over 50 >> responses, far, far too many to reply to individually. So this is >> my heartfelt thanks to you all for your suggestions. I have >> finally discovered that we have been pondering over a cigar >> cutter. My DH explained it to me - when a person chews off the >> end of a cigar they are really releasing the sealed end of the >> cigar so that one can draw air through the cigar, hence have a good >> smoke. So, our little tool pokes a hole in the end of the cigar. >> Voila!!! it can now be smoked with pleasure. >> >> Someone suggested that the lady of the house hid the cigar cutter >> in her sewing box to stop her DH from smoking but methinks it might >> have been the lady herself smoking the cigar. Didn't the >> Victorian/Edwardian lady sometimes smoke a cigar after dinner? >> >> Thanks again everyone, >> Shirley T. - off to make some lace now. >> >> - >> To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the >> line: >> unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >> arachnemodera...@yahoo.com >> > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com Regards Sue. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Mystery Tool
Hi Shirley - Yes, I think it was fairly common in those days for ladies to smoke cigars... ugh! Clay Tregellas Family wrote: Wow!! It seems I opened the floodgates with my mystery item Having only posted not quite 24 hours ago I now have over 50 responses, far, far too many to reply to individually. So this is my heartfelt thanks to you all for your suggestions. I have finally discovered that we have been pondering over a cigar cutter. My DH explained it to me - when a person chews off the end of a cigar they are really releasing the sealed end of the cigar so that one can draw air through the cigar, hence have a good smoke. So, our little tool pokes a hole in the end of the cigar. Voila!!! it can now be smoked with pleasure. Someone suggested that the lady of the house hid the cigar cutter in her sewing box to stop her DH from smoking but methinks it might have been the lady herself smoking the cigar. Didn't the Victorian/Edwardian lady sometimes smoke a cigar after dinner? Thanks again everyone, Shirley T. - off to make some lace now. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Mystery Tool
Wow!! It seems I opened the floodgates with my mystery item Having only posted not quite 24 hours ago I now have over 50 responses, far, far too many to reply to individually. So this is my heartfelt thanks to you all for your suggestions. I have finally discovered that we have been pondering over a cigar cutter. My DH explained it to me - when a person chews off the end of a cigar they are really releasing the sealed end of the cigar so that one can draw air through the cigar, hence have a good smoke. So, our little tool pokes a hole in the end of the cigar. Voila!!! it can now be smoked with pleasure. Someone suggested that the lady of the house hid the cigar cutter in her sewing box to stop her DH from smoking but methinks it might have been the lady herself smoking the cigar. Didn't the Victorian/Edwardian lady sometimes smoke a cigar after dinner? Thanks again everyone, Shirley T. - off to make some lace now. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] My Heritage Demo weekend
Great pictures Mark, Recent years I have taken my bobbin lace to a camp, just for my pleasure, we do sometimes have people doing beadwork, making moccasins and one or two other things but normally for their own use rather than for sale. We do have some blanket trading of unwanted items but your event seemed so much bigger than most of ours and much more spacious. This year we have not been able to attend any of them but hopefully next year will be a better one. Thanks for showing us the photos and good to see such brilliant close ups of your lace and pillow. Nice work, Sue T,. Dorset UK It started on Friday evening when we set up my lace display in one of the bank rooms off of the downtown square as part of the http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/artwalk-display3.jpg http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/artwalk-display23.jpg and bobbin lace. A local bobbin lace friend close the rings! http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/slideshow/15456537 Mark, aka Tatman - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
