[lace] Powerhouse Museum Lace Competition
Well, as to be expected, knowing that there were so many entries, but I thought I might have a chance living in Estonia, but my ideas weren't good enough. :-( . Received an e-mail this morning which began: We were thrilled to receive more than 700 entries from 33 countries for the Powerhouse Museum International Lace Award. Thank you for the care and thought that went into your submission. The five judges had to make some very difficult choices in selecting the finalists, and unfortunately your entry was not successful in moving to the next stage of the competition. Well, there are always other lace ideas to start, but I need to finish a few first to free up my bigger pillows. Ciao for now, Pene in Tartu, Estonia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
That would include the wire fences made with BL techniques and die-cut paper doilies. It is very difficult to write a definitive definition of lace which includes everything which is lace but excludes what some people might say is not lace! Personally I would include almost everything that's made with holes. A couple of years ago I did this as a class exercise. I first asked them to define lace and we discussed that. Then I produced a number of different items including a warp knitted vegetable bag, a gauze finger bandage, a paper doiley, a (picture of) a wrought iron gate, a small girl's sock, a macrame belt, hand-made holey paper and a few other bits and asked if these were lace. Nearly everything fitted one description and not another. If we tightened up the description to omit one thing it ended up also omitting something else. Brenda On 1 Jul 2010, at 03:40, Regina Haring wrote: For the purposes of this award we define lace as: an openwork structure in which the pattern of spaces is as important as the solid areas. Thought this very broad definition was interesting! Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Definitions
Thie 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn'. It did make some people wonder about my sanity, I think .. Carol - Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Susan Reishus elationrelat...@yahoo.com of lace being essentially esthetic holes within a medium, typically textiles. Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] lace on ebay
This Here's a handkerchief/veil with a lace edging, with the most interesting crenellation on the interior border of the edging: http://tinyurl.com/2unz46p is a lovely piece of lace. After the close ups, which aren't rally clear, it looks like handmade bobbin lace. It is an unusual design with this straight parts who form squares. Partly it has the look of an older Flanders, no gimp around the motives, partly it looks like wrong worked. It doesn't look like Binche after my opinion. The part with the little rounds is so blurred so I can't see if those are snowflakes or bollertjes or linen stitch with a hole, but they look interesting. The look of the fabric make the impression that the handkerchief is an old one. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] RE: lace on ebay
Dear Clay, it's not just you, I couldn't see them either, until I switched browser from firefox to internet explorer. I think there is something funny about the html coding, they should appear after the box about store rewards. For those of you who like using Firefox, there is a nice little add-on called IE tab or IEtab plus to get around these little problems. IE Tab Plus is a Firefox extension which enables you to use the embedded IE engine within tabs of Mozilla Firefox. It is not only a great tool for web developers, like IE Tab, but also an useful tool for normal users, since you can easily switch to IE in TAB VIEW when you meet incorrectly rendered web pages in Firefox. When it's installed you just right-click the mouse on the tab and select switch rendering engine and it uses explorer instead and you usually see the page properly. To get the add-ons, go to the toolsadd-ons command, click on browse all add-ons which fires p a mozzilla page. Type ietab in the search, you get a listing and click the button to install. I use IEtab plus, but IEtab2 is just as good. Hope this helps Regards Louise In muggy Cambridge, where it is set to hit 29C again today, too warm for me. Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:34:34 -0400 From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [lace] re: lace on ebay I don't seem to be able to see the close-up pictures that some of the rest of you can see... very strange, but then nothing about the internet surprises me any more. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Ebay lace pictures
For those of you who don't want to mess with IE vbg, here are the links to the actual pictures from the html source file for the Binche kerchief ... http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_099_006.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_100_006.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_101_006.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_102_004.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_103_005.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_105_004.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_106_004.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_107_005.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_108_001.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_109_004.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_110_001.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_112_004.jpg=600 http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_113_002.jpg=600 regards Louise - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
In my own thinking I tend to distinguish between things that are lacey/lacy, used as an adjective to describe things with holes (there's even lacy Swiss cheese) - and *lace* as a noun, meaning a fabric you make beginning with a strand of fiber from which you create patterns where openwork sections, i.e.holes, are necessary to the design. Regina Haring New York Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com To: Regina Haring rmhar...@optimum.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [lace] definitions That would include the wire fences made with BL techniques and die-cut paper doilies. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Photos of Lace at Sweet Briar
I've uploaded a group of photos taken at Lace at Sweet Briar last week! It's on the Arachne webshots... http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Photos of Lace at Sweet Briar
Thanks, Clay for the photos. I now know what you look like too. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Ebay lace pictures
Le 01/07/10 14:49, Louise Bailey a écrit : For those of you who don't want to mess with IEvbg, here are the links to the actual pictures from the html source file for the Binche kerchief ... http://thmb.inkfrog.com/thumbn/kmbrlyan/Picture_099_006.jpg=600 and from Clay's pictures of lace at Sweet Briar : Bintche handkerchief edgings http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2037869680048870129OTbyqf http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2341682610048870129qdwEtB very similar .. dominique from very very hot Paris ..34°C today or so they say .. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] definitions
Carol I really like the joining holes together with bits of yarn definition! I have always thought that the holes were more important than the thread. Lace is the artful juxtaposition of different kinds of holes. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] lace on ebay
I finally found the close-ups of that lace under discussion. I agree it is definitely hand made bobbin lace, but it is not Binche. The ground is 5 hole (Flanders) and the clothwork has gimp. That makes it Flanders/Mechlin. A lacemaker's definition would be Flanders. But it does have some complex fillings which are quite interesting. Because of the turned corner the date would be late 19th - early 20th century. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Definitions
This 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn'. It did make some people wonder about my sanity, I think .. Carol My son always refers to my lace friends and as lace loonies!! I prefer to think that it is an affectionate term and that he really admires what we do. Having started doing needle lace I am never sure to use two words or one, i.e. needlelace. My friend found some books on the subject by Doreen Holmes on line and she calls it Needlepoint but the designs are needlelace. I always thought needlepoint was something done on canvass. It sure is confusing. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Definitions
Try researching needlelace to it's beginning, where a lot of times, in books, it was called all sorts of things, including by the embroidery terms. It gets very confusing. I'll think I'm reading about needlelace, then suddenly realize I've been reading about embroidery of some sort all along! Branwyn, in warm, sunny Colorado On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: My son always refers to my lace friends and as lace loonies!! I prefer to think that it is an affectionate term and that he really admires what we do. Having started doing needle lace I am never sure to use two words or one, i.e. needlelace. My friend found some books on the subject by Doreen Holmes on line and she calls it Needlepoint but the designs are needlelace. I always thought needlepoint was something done on canvass. It sure is confusing. Janice -- Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent each rising from flames proper. It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and become sources of strength. - May Sarton Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert Einstein Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined. - Henry David Thoreau - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Strange magazine
The magazine that most were sent recently, must have been trolled from this list, as I didn't check the site, nor subscribe, fwiw (as per previous discussion about how and why received by several individuals). Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
I must question the use of scaffolding, as it implies it as an part of an infrastructure, when scaffolding is essentially a structure with scaffolds (akin to sophisticated ladder) to provide access by a worker, that never supports the structure itself, but rather access to be able to execute the task. (My background in general contracting). It could be confusing to someone's interpretation of what is going on within the formation of needlelace, if they have any understanding of the word itself. Perhaps this is why the word foundation is used so frequently in needlelace, as structurally it is more akin to that in providing a basis from which to build upon, etc. One can quickly see how words, languages, brain function, begin to vary interpretations. I even looked up the word footing or footer, and current references to tall persons (for example), prevailed over some of the traditional meanings. Best, Susan Reishus Defining the difference between bobbin lace and needle lace is probably the easiest part of the question. Bobbin lace is a weaving technique in which the warps are not permanently fixed to a beam but are weighted by bobbins (which also serve to store the thread and serve as a handle for manipulation. The warps are thus free to move in relation to each other and change positions (which is not possible to any great extent when the warps are fixed to a beam). Since the warps and weaver threads can all move in any direction and change places a very large variety of different weaves is possible, as are decorative holes of many kinds. Needlelace is constructed almost entirely of variations on the buttonhole stitch, worked with a needle and thread, with only a temporary backing which serves as a scaffolding while the lace is under construction, and which is removed when the lace is completed. This kind I have taken to calling true needlelace simply to have a term to apply to a needle lace with no extraneous, non-needle parts. I suppose the term pure needle lace would also serve, distinguishing it from mixed needlelace. The only problem with definitions is with the needlelace part. There are quite a variety of embroidery techniques which use woven cloth or machine made net as a basis to which stitches are added with needle and thread. There are also combinations of crochet and needle lace stitches, woven narrow tapes and needle lace stitches. Personally I regard all these latter as laces, but I would distinguish them as embroidered laces or lace-like embroideries, or I would call some mixed laces. Then there is also the case of filet lacis, which is embroidered square knotted netting, which was traditionally made on a hand made base (but is rarely done that way now). There is also the case of teneriffe, sol lace, nanduti, which is embroidery and needleweaving laid on to a base of thread spokes created as the first stage of the work. These are also lace and one could argue that, as originally made, are true needle laces since all the parts are hand made and any backing is only a temporary scaffolding. There are also many traditional bobbin laces which have needlemade parts. 19th century Duchesse with point de gaze needle insets comes to mind, as well as lace with needlemade rings or pops added to the surface. I have also seen several with bobbin lace motifs but needle lace grounds. Personally I also regard tatting, lacy crochet, and knitted lace as laces. So that's my personal, long winded, contribution to the question. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Query-Suggestion on Links
Perhaps it would be helpful when discussing lace with pictures (etc.), to cut and paste the link (or hit reply and delete all but the link)? Long term discussions, delays in reading posts or digests, etc., can make for confusion. More so when people are searching the archives (or their own inbox). Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] definitions
Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably haven't seen this poem of mine before - apologies to those who already have: What is lace? Lace is just air Surrounded by thread Without us lacemakers The skill would be dead. Lace can be bobbins Flung about with great speed Weaving patterns of beauty Like magic, indeed. Or needle and cotton Drawn with such care Making dainty delights For lace lovers to wear But lace can be shuttles Making knots by the score And carried in pockets For when time is a bore. There's crochet and knitting And hairpins and looms All needing equipment To fill up our rooms. But whatever the method The skill's quite unique We're proud to be makers And we're never meek! by Noelene Lafferty of Cooma, Australia nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au Carol I really like the joining holes together with bits of yarn definition! I have always thought that the holes were more important than the thread. Lace is the artful juxtaposition of different kinds of holes. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] more on lace definitions
Some things to consider:
In English, a first meaning of lace is a string thing that lassos
(encloses). eg shoelace.
'braid' is a way to make a 'lace' and braid on a military uniform is often
referred to as 'military lace' (we've gone down this road before on arachne
LOL).
The English word for the textile 'lace' in the several other languages I
know of, is la dentelle (like a tooth) in French, die spitze ('sharp') in
German, kant ('side' - edging perhaps) in Dutch; and those terms relate to
the appearance of the textile.
I don't know how the term for lace diversified from its meaning as a cord,
or a functional string, to include a textile graced with holes. But there
we have it.
'point' is a term for 'stitch'
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Re: [lace] definitions
Noelene I LOVE it Sue in EY On 1 Jul 2010, at 23:17, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably haven't seen this poem of mine before - apologies to those who already have: What is lace? Lace is just air Surrounded by thread Without us lacemakers The skill would be dead. Lace can be bobbins Flung about with great speed Weaving patterns of beauty Like magic, indeed. Or needle and cotton Drawn with such care Making dainty delights For lace lovers to wear But lace can be shuttles Making knots by the score And carried in pockets For when time is a bore. There's crochet and knitting And hairpins and looms All needing equipment To fill up our rooms. But whatever the method The skill's quite unique We're proud to be makers And we're never meek! by Noelene Lafferty of Cooma, Australia nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au Carol I really like the joining holes together with bits of yarn definition! I have always thought that the holes were more important than the thread. Lace is the artful juxtaposition of different kinds of holes. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com Regards Sue. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] definitions
;-D) I have been reading these very clever and scholarly definitions of lace. The other day I was cleaning out something-or-other and a slip of paper fell to the floor. You must remember that I am an incurable keeper of bits of paperwith little thoughts of mine or others! This one says... LACE IS: Thread wrapped around air to make holes. author long since forgotten Now, where shall I put this scrap of precious paperin another drawer, of course. Smiles, BarbE Texas - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Bangle raffle
Hi, Just to let you know that I have posted the Bangles to the two winners today. Faye Owers Tasmania mailto:f...@tpinstruments.com.au f...@tpinstruments.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Venetian lace
Dear spiders —— Help! I have been reading an ancient book, Tebbs' Art of Bobbin Lace. It's as different as can be from the contemporary publications that we use nowadays. Reading along in it, I came to a chapter on Venetian Lace. No explanation given as to what it is. I looked about in all my other books, nobody else has anything to say about Venetian lace. If it could have been a reference to needle lace, it wouldn't have been a problem, but the book is only about bobbin lace. Does anybody have any idea as to what Venetian lace might be? Aurelia Catonsville, Maryland USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace definition
always used to tell people that I was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn' I Love that!! :) Very good!!! I, too, get confused with Needlepoint and needlelace, Janice. I know a lot of people use the term Needlepoint, - but to me that is embroidery on canvas - often called tapestry!! I always say I do Needlelace. !! :) (My stubborn, radical, side is showing again! :) ) Regards from Liz in dark, cold, wet, Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Venetian lace
Aurelia I have the same book, and some of her names are quite peculiar. From the plate that accompanies the opening page of the chapter on Venetian I think that she is talking about what we would call Cantu. Long ago in going through her book, I decided that these things she calls Guipure de Flandre, Old Flemish are an attempt to suggest links with old laces like Flemish tape lace. But her designs are all modern (that is modern by the standard of the time she was writing) and bear no relation to actual old Flemish laces that I've seen at the museum. Her Milanese is fairly close to the old type and is also fairly close to Read's Milanese. I value her book because it represents a stage in the revival era. Her designs are a kind of bridge between truly antique lace and modern efforts to resurrect the old forms. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
