Re: [lace] RE: bobbins
I think its exactly that - there are many biblical/religious names on old bobbins. Names such as Solomon, Zachariah, Moses, Joshua, Job, Jesse, Isaac, Ephraim, Elijah, Eli and so on. Diana in Northants - Original Message - From: Helen Bell he...@access-experts.com To: l...@dont.panix.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:14 AM Subject: [lace] RE: bobbins Pharaoh (or Pharoah) is a latin boy's name. Might it not have been marginally more common in the 19thC? I would think it would more likely be a person's name on the bobbin in this case rather than something more cryptic. Helen, in Duvall, WA. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Larkrise to Candleford lace on Arachne Webshots
I've uploaded some screenshots from the lacemaking sequences in last night's Larkrise to Candleford into its own album. http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Pity the researchers didn't get a couple of things right: The point ground lace is Maltese. The lace Queenie is selling is Bedfordshire, but she has Bucks point on her pillow. If she was making her living at it she would have stuck to one pattern. I'm sure there are others, but it was so nice to see bobbin lacemaking getting such a good airing on TV. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Larkrise to Candleford lace on Arachne Webshots
Thanks for putting those up Jean. I did watch it last night, and will forgive Queenie her 'faux pas' on the types of lace purely because the important thing about the programme is that it actually gave a beautiful showing of bobbin lace and also shows the history of what happened to the lacemakers once machine lace came along! I felt so sorry for Queenie when she returned from the market and then was, in essence, snubbed by the dressmakers regarding such gorgeous lace. IMHO historically it was pretty near the truth!! I think that the researchers were looking historically rather than the lace types, and they did get that right Sue in East Yorkshire On 17 Jan 2011, at 09:02, Jean Nathan wrote: I've uploaded some screenshots from the lacemaking sequences in last night's Larkrise to Candleford into its own album. http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Pity the researchers didn't get a couple of things right: The point ground lace is Maltese. The lace Queenie is selling is Bedfordshire, but she has Bucks point on her pillow. If she was making her living at it she would have stuck to one pattern. I'm sure there are others, but it was so nice to see bobbin lacemaking getting such a good airing on TV. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Larkrise to Candleford lacemaking
Larkrise to Candleford is a gentle, enjoyable little drama which flashes past. An hour never seems to go so quickly at any other time! Whilst I have watched it Queenie has never been depicted as a lacemaker before and most people watching it wouldn't care or know if it was point ground lace or not, they would just be fascinated I suspect with what ever Queenie was supposed to be doing with the funny little sticks! Perhaps we are getting a bit bogged down between authenticity and drama. Lacemaking was brought to the masses via a prime time series, now isn't that something to be glad about! Happy Monday from grey, wet Cornwall, UK. Sue Eddy. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Niggles about the Larkrise to Candleford lace.
Hi All, I am a tad surprised at the 'carping' that has ensued from the Lark Rise lace-making. I also thought I noticed several anomalies, but am content to take the view that the lace-making problems in the Industrial Revolution were well-explained, and that it was a delight to see lace-making actually a main part of the story, rather than just glossed over. We as lacemakers can probably recognise the some of the lace wasn't what it was cracked up to be but, if it gave just one person an interest, and persuaded him/her to take up our lace classes, we should perhaps be pleased, rather than gripe about what seemed wrong with the lacemaking. Carol - Suffolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Niggles about the Larkrise to Candleford lace.
Hello Carol I don't think any of us were carping - I for one certainly wasn't :o) I'm sure we all enjoyed the program, that doesn't stop us as lacemakers showing our interest and knowledge of lace and lace making with its traditions and history. With best wishes Diana - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Niggles about the Larkrise to Candleford lace.
On 17/01/2011 11:04, Diana Smith wrote: Hello Carol I don't think any of us were carping - I for one certainly wasn't :o) I'm sure we all enjoyed the program, that doesn't stop us as lacemakers showing our interest and knowledge of lace and lace making with its traditions and history. With best wishes Diana I didn't feel that this discussion was about complaints, just enjoying that lacemaking and some of it's history had been given such prominence on prime-time tv, and also sharing our extra bit of knowledge that enabled us to see the mistakes. I have learned something about the different types of lace from this discussion, and also that a lacemaker would probably stick to one type of lace if she was making it for sale - not something I'd realised. How lucky we are to be able to do this for fun and to be able to try any tradition that we want, rather than having to struggle to make a living from lacemaking. (tho I do acknowledge that some of you do teach and sell lace professionally) Lesley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Pharoah
I think within the bobbin context that Pharaoh should be classified as a Biblical Inscription probably Freemans classification xx though it does not fit that classification exactly. I will put a copy of Freemans bobbin classification up on http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs.html in the next few days. These Old Testament stories (and New Testament too) were well known to the population in those days and Biblical names were quite commonly given to children, but probably not Pharaoh! Maybe they thought they were slaves, which in certain instances and times might be quite close to their working conditions. There was a time when I thought being a lace maker in those days was quite romantic. Since then, in general terms, I have changed my mind. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Larkrise to Candleford lacemaking
Queenie has been seen making lace a couple of times, very briefly, one time sitting outside her cottage and in the first program mentioned as lacemaker and beekeeper as in the original book. It is enjoyable and the costumes last night particularly pretty. A friend of mine, who knows nothing about lacemaking except that I do it sent this to me after the program . Just a quick late e:mail - hope you were watching Larkrise to Candleford. I thought the scenes containing the lace making were very moving... So good for lacemakers and nonmaker and as has been said, fantastic to get bobbin lacemaking spoken about and shown on the television Sue T, Dorset UK Larkrise to Candleford is a gentle, enjoyable little drama which flashes past. An hour never seems to go so quickly at any other time! Whilst I have watched it Queenie has never been depicted as a lacemaker before and most people watching it wouldn't care or know if it was point ground lace or not, they would just be fascinated I suspect with what ever Queenie was supposed to be doing with the funny little sticks! Perhaps we are getting a bit bogged down between authenticity and drama. Lacemaking was brought to the masses via a prime time series, now isn't that something to be glad about! Happy Monday from grey, wet Cornwall, UK. Sue Eddy. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Showing lacemaking on Larkrise to Candleford
Here in Dubuque, Iowa, we can watch this program on both Iowa Public Television and Wisconsin Public Television. One is showing a new season though I don't know which one it is. The other is showing the series from the beginning, I believe. I haven't yet seen the episode where we see Queenie making lace. I really love Larkrise! Maybe other PBS stations around the country are also showing this series. --Ruth On Jan 16, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote: How envious I am that you are all able to see this show! We don't get it in the US until the shows are released in video format, and then I can get it from Netflix. DH and I devoured the first two seasons in very short order last year, and are eagerly awaiting the release of season 3. What season is currently being shown? Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Niggles about Larkrise to Candleford lace
Carol wrote: I am a tad surprised at the 'carping' that has ensued from the Lark Rise lace-making. I do hope that wasn't directed at me. I wasn't carping. I'm fully aware that we should be pleased that lacemaking was shown - in fact my last sentence was I'm sure there are others, but it was so nice to see bobbin lacemaking getting such a good airing on TV. I know that many lacemakers in other countries are interested in 'Larkrise to Candleford' and especially in the fact that one of the characters was a lacemaker. That's why I put the screenshots on Arachne webshot so that they can see some of what we saw. As a lacemaker it would be wrong to ignore the errors - those of us who've been lacemaking for some time would notice them anyway and those who haven't might have learnt something. I'm always willing to learn and would have been pleased if the anomalies had been pointed out if I didn't know them. It certainly isn't niggling or carping - it provides a basis for discussion. And yes, the demise of bobbin lacemaking was well illustrated. My first posting last night was On tonight's Larkrise Queenie finds that she loses a sources of income as no-one wants her handmade lace because the industrial revolution has resulted in cheaper machine-made lace. Unless Queenie continues to teach Ruby that's probably the last lacemaking we'll see on TV for a very long time as I don't know of any other TV drama that would be likely to include it. As I said before the coverage in the 'Edwardian Farm' with Pat Perryman was disappointing - she covered the history of Honiton lace but showed very little of the making and it wouldn't have made anyone want to take it up. We're currently on Series 4, which I think is only 6 episodes. Karen the title is 'Larkrise to Candleford'. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Niggles about Larkrise to Candleford lace
I don't think any of us were carping. i agree with your comments entirely. It made for a good topic of discussion with my students this morning, and I know some of them learned from it. Wouldn't it be lovely to see Ruby practising at her lace pillow in the evenings while Pearl is busy fawning over the lodger ;o) Claire Allen www.bonitocrafts.co.uk Crafty stuff I want to show off. On 17 Jan 2011, at 17:59, Jean Nathan wrote: I do hope that wasn't directed at me. I wasn't carping. I'm fully aware that we should be pleased that lacemaking was shown - in fact my last sentence was I'm sure there are others, but it was so nice to see bobbin lacemaking getting such a good airing on TV. I know that many lacemakers in other countries are interested in 'Larkrise to Candleford' and especially in the fact that one of the characters was a lacemaker. That's why I put the screenshots on Arachne webshot so that they can see some of what we saw. As a lacemaker it would be wrong to ignore the errors - those of us who've been lacemaking for some time would notice them anyway and those who haven't might have learnt something. I'm always willing to learn and would have been pleased if the anomalies had been pointed out if I didn't know them. It certainly isn't niggling or carping - it provides a basis for discussion. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Larkrise to Candleford lace
Jean Thanks for those stills from the TV show. Interesting to see that they got a lot right. I'll forgive their mistakes. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Teachers
One time I had a class of seniors at a local community centre. Starting off with put 2 over 3, put 2 over 1 and 4 over 3 one lady couldn't understand that the bobbin then took on the number of the space it was in, not the number it was when it started. Anyway, after several tries of explaining and she still didn't understand I put 4 chairs in front and had 4 parcels on the chairs and showed her two over 3 - she didn't have to remember which parcel was which, she had to remember that the chairs were 2 and 3. Finally, the penny dropped. Later as I was going round the class, I heard a little mutter from her put chair 2 over chair 3. Malvary in Ottawa where it has warmed up to -17c - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Lark Rise to Candleford
Sorry Jean I meant to send this to the list :o) Can I add that it originally came from the book 'Lark Rise to Candleford' by Flora Thompson and was set in the 1870's and 80's in the north-east corner of Oxfordshire. From the chapter called 'Survivals' - Queenie at her lace-making was a constant attraction to the children. They loved to see the bobbins tossed hither and thither, at random as it seemed to them, every bobbin weighted with its bunch of bright beads and every bunch with its own story. It goes on to tell of the black bead that Queenie spoke of yesterday evening. Another chapter called 'The Box' which was loaned to any farm labourers wife after child birth - It contained half a dozen of everything - tiny shirts, swathes, long flannel barrows(?), nighties, and napkins, made, kept in repair, and lent for every confinement by the clergyman's daughter. She also kept two christening robes to lend to the mothers - One woman ripped off the deep flounce of old Buckinghamshire lace - and substituted a frill of course, machine-made embroidery, saying she was not going to take her child to church 'trigged out' in that old fashioned trash. A lovely book well worth reading, the TV series has taken it several steps further. In a book called 'Banburyshire in Old Photographs' Collected by Melissa Barnett Sarah Gosling there is a picture of the real Queenie Massey (not making lace) and Flora Thompson. Diana in Northants - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Nuevo blog: MUSEU VIRTUAL DE ENCAJE TENERIFE
Durante estos años, algunas personas nos han mostrado hermosas piezas de ñandutí o de encaje de tenerife que hano encontrado en un baúl, por lo general la madre o de el ajuar de la abuela. Pensando en tener acceso y dar acceso de eses encajes sin que la gente tenga que desprenderse de ellos. Entonces planeamos una colección virtual. El MUSEO VIRTUAL DE ENCAJES DE TENERIFE propone llevar a cabo una recogida con colaboración. La persona se convierte en un co-autor del blog, haciendo un post con una foto de su encaje antiguo, compartiendo con nosotros, los interesados y encajeras su encaje sin desprenderse de la pieza. Haga clic en http://nhandutimuseuvirtual.blogspot.com/ y conosca.Elizabeth H Correa Nhanduti de Atibaia www.rendasol.org.br http://rendatenerife.blogspot.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Mako threads
Lorri - I have 2 spools of this thread, - Auriofil, I think it is also called. Orange spool is 50, and grey spool is 28/2 - according to the little bits of sticky label I stuck on the bottom of the reels! I do wish manufacturers would think about when the outer wrapping is removed, and mark the reels/spools as well !! Regards from Liz in chilly, dull, Melbourne (where has summer gone?) lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] lace photos
This album has several interesting pieces of embroidery on hexagonal net, using 2 layers of net: black and white. It also has a wildly colorful tatted collar. http://picasaweb.google.com/Tere.juli07/EncuentroEnCanals15101?feat=content_n otification# Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Pharoah
I love the carthorse thought! My wife (a farmers daughter) remembers her carthorses very fondly (and their Names) and thinks this was quite possible. ( she also rattled off a long list of the cows names too!!!) Because she was so sure of that, I have accused her of being around in the mid 1800s and that did not do me any good at all! In fact of anyone will invite me for tea, I will be along about 6pm Australian time! On my lovely Shire horse! (Not really), but the farm across the road from us does breed them. They are lovely animals. It is so hard for us to imagine calling a child Pharaoh. The gentlemen excavators were in full flight over in Egypt with wonderful discoveries and tales of adventure. As an armchair adventurer I might call my child Pharaoh, but as a theologian I do not think I would! Children's names are a fashion, even today. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace-chat] Names
I was in attending a christening which was part of a Sunday service, where 5 or 6 babies were baptised. One of these infants (not the one I was attending for) got the 11 first names of the players in the Liverpool football team. What was even worse than having 11 names, is that 2 of the names were repeated! Regards Steph In Berlin, Germany -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters stepha...@sandbenders.demon.co.uk Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
