[lace] Lace book prices

2011-09-18 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz there might not be a reason for being suspicious about the price being 
bid up (or there might). One of the items I sold was the travel pillow that 
I'd made. It went for what I consider to be a ridiculously high price and I 
think it might have been popular because I'd included a small box for tools 
and threads and a removable pin cushion in it. A couple that have sold since 
haven't got anywhere near what I got for mine.


Someone contacted me when it had got quite high and said she lived within 25 
miles. She wanted to bid, but had a limit and asked if she could collect it 
personally if she won so she could used what would have been the amount for 
postage in her bid. I agreed. About an hour before the end she made her bid, 
but someone else had already put in a higher bid and she didn't get it.


I am the type of bidder who isn't liked - I snipe. Obviously I want to get 
the item as cheaply as possible, so I try not to give anyone else an 
opportunity to outbid me. Even then I have a maximum and someone else might 
already have already put a bid in higher than I'm prepared to pay.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Lace book prices

2011-09-18 Thread The Lace Bee
I'd like to think that all the bidders on ebay are nice people but
unfortuantely I think that some may not be.
 
We have been hit by single high bids on other things as well - I collect
Australian WWI sweetheart brooches and have found that when I need to put in a
max bid because I won't be able to check neear the end of the bidding
(normally because I'm at work) I see a single high bid that takes me up to my
maximum.
 
I will just keep looking and bidding and trying to win.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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From: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk
Subject: [lace] Lace book prices
To: Lace lace@arachne.com
Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 8:14


Liz there might not be a reason for being suspicious about the price being bid
up (or there might). One of the items I sold was the travel pillow that I'd
made. It went for what I consider to be a ridiculously high price and I think
it might have been popular because I'd included a small box for tools and
threads and a removable pin cushion in it. A couple that have sold since
haven't got anywhere near what I got for mine.

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Re: [lace] Lace book prices

2011-09-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
To Liz and Jean -

Sadly, another thing going on with bidders on eBay is that there are people out 
there who are inexperienced bidders, and jump right into the bidding. One or 
two people will increase their bid by a dollar or so at a time, and drive the 
bid up in the early days of the auction.  When I see this happen with something 
I have my eye on, I know I'll have to be there at the ending bell.  If this 
isn't practical, I just stop watching it.  It does make me nuts to see 
something go way beyond it's reasonable value by two inexperienced bidders in a 
war with each other.

A couple of years ago, someone paid over $150 for the original Skovgaard book, 
and after that there were lots of postings of similar books with inflated buy 
it now prices.  They didn't sell, of course, and then it was a very long time 
before the book was available on ebay again.  

More experienced bidders decide what they are willing to pay and then stick to 
it.  They know the value of the item and weigh that against their desire to own 
it.  But they don't bid until the end of the auction.  If their Max is hit 
before then, they don't have that feeling that their item is being lost and 
get sucked into a bidding war that drives the price up.

Clay

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[lace] Re: Library Loan Wool for Pillows

2011-09-18 Thread Susan Reishus
As I stated before, it is just plain tragic, as dozens or hundreds of others
don't get to use the books.  Evidently this woman Liz is talking about, saved
herself loads of time ferreting out books online/from booksellers, and got
them for something close to original asking price.  Once the demand was made
for another person wanting to borrow same, she projected her own agenda onto
the other, fearing someone else would keep it so tried to beat them to the
punch.  It is so sad.  I too, have returned books twice and asked them to scan
and they said they were busy...then got a note later than my book wasn't
returned.  I got so I took my young child in with me as my witness, and asked
them to scan in front of me and never used the drop box.  I have not borrowed
lace books, as they are generally nearly impossible to find in the US (in part
because of this), and the few in our state are kept at the hosting library,
and you have to go there and peruse it
 on site because of this kind of abuse.  When a Shetland Lace Knitting book
was stolen from my car, I decided it was jeopardizing the technique (was a
loan from Canada) and I never borrowed OOP books again.  Lacemaking loses as a
whole, as people cannot readily source and give up.  I think some need to try
it first before investing a lot in books, pillows and bobbins, and may not
know of Lace groups that also loan.  I wonder if loaning guilds have the same
problem...hopefully not, and it is a smaller group, perhaps to hold everyone
more accountable.

One comment about the wool blend blanket, is I think that
synthetics tend to dull pins (even more than ethafoam, etc.)  Years of
cutting, pinning, serging things that have synthetics in the textile (compared
to natural fibers), they greatly shorten their life.  Perhaps moot for some,
but long term is worth considering when putting work into something and $20
boxes of pins, and repetitive stress kinds of issues.  It would be worth it to
me to go and buy pure wool and felt it in the washer, imho.

Best,
Susan
Reishus

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[lace] Book on demand

2011-09-18 Thread Jean Nathan
Coincidentally as we are discussing books on demand there's a 4 page article 
in the current 'Computeractive' issue 354, 15th to 28th September 2011.


It explains very clearly how to do it using 'Lulu', but they do give links 
to 4 other on demand publishers. They also give examples of cost (although 
it isn't clear if the example is text only) from Lulu - £6.00 for a single 
copy of a 200 page paperback, £14.40 hardback or £15.60 hardback with 
dustjacket. A 12-page newspaper from 'Newpaper Club' would be £14.00 for a 
single copy or £169 for 100 copies (£1.69 each). With 'Lulu' (and probably 
others as well) a book can be revised and a 2nd edition published, and 
there's a choice of binding - perfect bound, saddle stitched, coil bound, 
dust jacketed, case wrapped, mass market paperback or trade paperback.


Worth buying 'Computeractive' for this article if you think you might want 
to publish even one copy of something for yourself.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] lace population in the UK

2011-09-18 Thread The Lace Bee
I was wondering this afternoon, having looked back at some old magazines, just
how many registered and non registered lacemakers there are in the UK now?
 
I found an article in an old 'lace' from the early 80s (don't know which
edition as it was on a photocopy that I'd stuffed into a folder) that said
that at that time the Lace Guild was the second largest guild in the UK just
behind the sugarcraft guild.
 
How big is the lace guild / lacemaker's circle or lace society these days? 
Are they representative of the UK lacemaking populations?  I'm not a member of
any of these now - partly fed up with being a member of things (apart from the
fabulous ISIS) but also if I can't join on line I forget to do it.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] re Casper Netscher's Lacemaker

2011-09-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
I did not mean to insult the integrity of the little lacemaker.  I just 
want  to note that as illustrious as the source of this interpretation 
is, there are still other ways to use the same information.  A devoted 
housewife can also be (and, it was probably also true 350-400 years ago) 
someone who was privately seductive and enjoyed her married life.  I see 
this when I look at the picture.  It makes me happy.


Clay

On 9/17/2011 6:03 PM, Jean Eke wrote:

In the booklet,  'Highlights, The Wallace Collection' published  by The 
Trustees of the Wallace Collection, 2003
the painting is interpreted thus:


Dutch paintings of the 17th century often had a moral.  In this small picture, the 
little lacemaker serves as an example of good behaviour for a Dutch housewife of the 
time.  The mussels lying at her feet are a symbol of her virtue as both stay in their 
shell.  Her discarded shoes suggest she cannot leave the house without them and so avoids 
temptation. The broom beside her emphasises her spotless house.  On her richly 
embroidered cap is an emblem of doves and clasped hands that tell us she is a loving 
wife.  Lace-making was also a sign of the virtuous housewife, since it was a long, 
laborious process allowing the maker little freedom from domesticity.  !

I hope the Wallace Collection will forgive such a long quote but I felt I must 
defend the little lacemaker and advertise a wonderful Art Gallery in London.  
They also have Frans Hals, The Laughing Cavalier, with his wonderful 
needlepoint cuffs and collar.

Jean Eke in Sussex , England,  on a chilly , wet  windy late evening.

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Re: [lace] Lace book prices

2011-09-18 Thread Dmt11home
We have been bidding on  different items and what I am noticing is that a
few
hours before the end of  the bidding, if no one has bid on the item apart
from
me, someone comes in  and make one bid higher than I've initially offered
but
not too high to push  me out of the bidding.  They then don't bid again.
I've
looked at  the bidder's history and on one item I bought this person has
bid 15
times  and never won anything, yet the book I bought went for £3 but until
an
hour  before the bidding ended it was at 99p.

Am I missing something here? I am  confused about what you think is going
on that makes you suspicious. Do you  think the other bidder is simply
running up the price with no intention of  buying? Or that she only bids on
things
you are bidding on?

I think that what you are describing  is an auction. Two people have
decided what the maximum is that they want to  pay, and the item goes to the
person who wants to pay the most. Is there some  obligation on the part of
bidders to bid early in the process or for  sellers to sell at the price that
the item has sat at for the longest time  at the auction?

The other bidder doesn't know your maximum bid. She  only knows her maximum
bid. She could put in her maximum bid at the end of the  auction when there
is no time for either of you to increase it, and have you  outbid her, due
to the automatic bidding process. That is apparently what  happened. A lot
of auctions are decided in the last hour of bidding. The great  thing about
the automatic bidding process is that you can decide exactly how  much you
are willing to pay for an item  in advance, and then you don't  need to think
about it any more.

Devon

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[lace] Re: Lulu and others

2011-09-18 Thread Susan Reishus
But keep an eye on your bank/card account for unauthorized charges.  I had
several that were done monthly, no idea how it could have happened nor what
they were for, though the powers that be set it right and rectified the
situation when Lulu didn't respond to queries. 


Best,
Susan Reishus 

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[lace-chat] The Tower of London Yeoman - A bit of English History with a twist

2011-09-18 Thread Jean Nathan
Hope it doesn't offend anyone. I think it's very funny. Dread to think which 
nation he'd insult on the next part of the tour.


http://millmore.posterous.com/yeoman-warden-at-tower-of-london

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace-chat] The Tower of London Yeoman - A bit of English History with a twist

2011-09-18 Thread Agnes Boddington

Brilliant!
Thanks for a good laugh.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK


Hope it doesn't offend anyone. I think it's very funny. Dread to think 
which nation he'd insult on the next part of the tour.


http://millmore.posterous.com/yeoman-warden-at-tower-of-london

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK


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