[lace] Spangles & early lace

2014-07-22 Thread hottleco
Thank you Jeri!  I planned to take a peek at Gil Dye's books in Sacramento as I 
wondered if spangle instructions were included & I must purchase them if so.  
The class description on 16th-17thC lace did not specifically mention spangles 
so I selected a different topic.  Will rethink that next time!  You're quite 
right about making my own path to use spangles.  I dare say I'm the only RSN 
student to have used lavender plaid silk dupioni for goldwork foundation 
fabric!  A sweet bag is under construction in my stash--from a Chris Berry 
class at EGA seminar.  Thanks for reminding me to use the Archives again so I 
may re-read your reviews.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie PA USA

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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Jacquie Tinch
I'm on aol and as far as I know, see all the messages. Certainly all of Jeri's. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Jul 2014, at 18:18, Brenda Paternoster  wrote:

> I see that both Antje, Karen and Adele have gmail addresses and Patricia is 
> with AOL, all of which seems to concur with my earlier posting about it being 
> a problem with the way those ISPs have changed their DMARC settings.
> 
> Brenda
> 
> On 22 Jul 2014, at 17:53, Karen ZM  wrote:
> 
>> Jeri's messages also go into my Spam folder - irrespective of the fact that
>> I have put her name and address into my address book and I keep marking her
>> messages as Not Spam.
> 
> Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] Messages Going to Spam

2014-07-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:01, jeria...@aol.com wrote:

> I have corrected the address you gave for DMARC to:
> http://www.dmarc.org

That’s about how it’s supposed to work.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html
and
http://www.gettingemaildelivered.com/why-the-yahoo-and-aol-dmarc-changes-will-affect-your-mailings-and-how-google-is-addressing-it
are a couple of pages about how the rules have been applied too aggressively.

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Re: [lace] Messages that don't go through

2014-07-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I’ve had trouble sending to AOL and Verizon in the past, and had to contact my 
ISP and they got it sorted for me.

Brenda

On 22 Jul 2014, at 20:22, Jane Partridge  wrote:

> Over the years there have frequently been times when ISPs appear to fall out 
> with, and blacklist, each other. AOL is a prime one for this, and my ISP is 
> one that has been blacklisted by them in the past. I think there were 
> problems with one of the smaller US ISPs - was it Comcast? - where AOL 
> refused to receive messages sent to them.

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[lace] Messages that don't go through

2014-07-22 Thread Jane Partridge
Over the years there have frequently been times when ISPs appear to fall 
out with, and blacklist, each other. AOL is a prime one for this, and my 
ISP is one that has been blacklisted by them in the past. I think there 
were problems with one of the smaller US ISPs - was it Comcast? - where 
AOL refused to receive messages sent to them.


Then it all goes quiet for a bit, and we can all talk to each other... 
until the next round.


The spam filter on Panda lets me decide, by marking what it thinks is 
spam in the same way that the major denotes Lace or Lace Chat... so I 
filter it out of my inbox into a spam folder, with the subject line 
dictating the rule two messages have just landed in there, one from 
Jeri and one from Bev, which were not flagged by Panda as spam, but had 
the word "spam" in the subject line!

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[lace] Messages not getting through

2014-07-22 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver

I sent a message in response to the glass bobbin inquiry but I didn't see it
post. That was about four days ago.  I said then that Nancy Clark's husband
use to sell them at the Fingerlakes lacing event. I guess something happened
for they haven't been at the event for years. I do have some of the bobbins.
One year I saw a pillow with just glass bobbins on it. 
Sherry from
Canandaigua,  New York.
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[lace] Messages not getting through

2014-07-22 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver

I sent a message in response to the glass bobbin inquiry but I didn't see it
post. That was about four days ago.  I said then that Nancy Clark's husband
use to sell them at the Fingerlakes lacing event. I guess something happened
for they haven't been at the event for years. I do have some of the bobbins.
One year I saw a pillow with just glass bobbins on it. 
Sherry from
Canandaigua,  New York.
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Re: [lace] Messages Going to Spam

2014-07-22 Thread Bev Walker
oh blush, thank you Jeri for correcting my typo!
that is odd about your own mail going into Spam as well ... I hear that
scream!

Keep calm and Lace on

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM,  wrote:

>  Dear Bev,
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> I have corrected the address you gave for DMARC to:
> http://www.dmarc.org
> --
>
>


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Re: [lace] Messages Going to Spam

2014-07-22 Thread Jeriames
Dear Bev,
 
Thanks for your input.  
 
I have corrected the address you gave for DMARC to:
http://www.dmarc.org

(There was an extra f in the address: dfmarc, so it rejected.)
 
You might find it interesting that every message I send to Arachne  drops 
into my own Spam folder when it goes out across the world.  It should  be 
going to my Inbox.   It has been doing this for a long time, so I  am chasing 
that problem, too.
 
Scream!
 
Jeri
--
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2014, walker.b...@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 
Hello Jeri and everyone


Hurray, I can report one small  success - your message arrived just now in 
my Inbox, as it should. There is a  notation above the message, for my 
benefit from my e-mail program, that "This  message was not sent to Spam 
because 
of a filter you created."


Of  minor interest, a message in my Spam folder from a trusted source 
innocently  had LED (light) in the subject line; another emphasized my name in 
caps...but  there were many more with caps and silly symbols that were *not 
nice* at all,  and for that I'm glad for the Spam filter.


Info on DMARC is  here:
_http://www.dfmarc.org_ (http://www.dfmarc.org/) 

I note that  Aol is a contributor. Good luck with whatever you can do with 
your aol  provider.



On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:25 AM, <_Jeriames@aol.com_ 
(mailto:jeria...@aol.com) > wrote:

Dear  Friends around the world,

I have just hung up my phone after speaking  with 7 different AOL technical
support staff in India and in the  Philippines in 90 minutes  



Bev in Shirley BC,  near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of 
Canada  

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Re: [lace] Messages Going to Spam

2014-07-22 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Jeri and everyone

Hurray, I can report one small success - your message arrived just now in
my Inbox, as it should. There is a notation above the message, for my
benefit from my e-mail program, that "This message was not sent to Spam
because of a filter you created."

Of minor interest, a message in my Spam folder from a trusted source
innocently had LED (light) in the subject line; another emphasized my name
in caps...but there were many more with caps and silly symbols that were
*not nice* at all, and for that I'm glad for the Spam filter.

Info on DMARC is here:
http://www.dfmarc.org
I note that Aol is a contributor. Good luck with whatever you can do with
your aol provider.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:25 AM,  wrote:

> Dear Friends around the world,
>
> I have just hung up my phone after speaking with 7 different AOL technical
> support staff in India and in the Philippines in 90 minutes
>
>

-- 
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[lace] Messages Going to Spam

2014-07-22 Thread Jeriames
Dear Friends around the world,
 
I have just hung up my phone after speaking with 7 different AOL technical  
support staff in India and in the Philippines in 90 minutes   Each  person 
could not route my call back to an American person whom I might have  
trusted to tell what Arachne is, and that it is on a very old (in the  computer 
world) server.  In complaining to AOL, I don't want to jeopardize  our way of 
communicating.
 
The final tech person has sent a memorandum to "headquarters?" and  said I 
should hear from them (by e-mail, I guess) within 24 hours.  I  wonder how 
long I should be loyal to this provider?   I want to talk  to an American, 
when the corporation being paid is American.
 
They have been told messages about your Spam folders are coming  to me from 
England, Wales, Canada, Spain, Malta.  They know it is an  international 
issue.  Not one of these people has mentioned something  called DMARC.  No one 
at AOL has said we cannot use capital letters or  punctuation in the 
Subject line. Their own name is sometimes  AOL and sometimes Aol.   
 
We often use OIDFA, not Oidfa.  Or IOLI, not Ioli.  It would seem  to me 
that many long business names are abbreviated all the time, and they  should 
not reject if acronyms are used on a Subject line.  Devon and I have  had 
Spam problems between us, and reported them before this.  We are  both using 
AOL.  
 
I am wondering if the reason we have so many silent members on  Arachne is 
because they are not receiving mail from those of us using  AOL.  
 
Thank you, Brenda!  I will be asking about DMARC.
 
Adele, Ruth Kern wanted to carry a book by a British author last  year.  I 
put the 2 women together.  However, one was not getting  e-mail from the 
other.  When we figured this out, I allowed them  to send business 
correspondence through me.  Horrible.  But we  worked our way around the 
problem so 
Americans and Canadians could buy  the book on this side of the big pond.   
 
Let us see what I hear from AOL.  It will be shared, since this is a  
widespread problem.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Bev Walker
PS - for good measure I've set up a filter for subject line [lace] Never
send to spam.

I note that those receiving the digest form probably won't have this
problem ;)

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Bev Walker  wrote:

> ...although Patricia mentioned also that Jeri's messages were ending up in
> Spam folder...
>
> Just another e-wrinkle to be aware of. Gmail does give advice through a
> link "Legitimate mail is marked as spam."
>
> --
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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Bev Walker
...although Patricia mentioned also that Jeri's messages were ending up in
Spam folder...

Just another e-wrinkle to be aware of. Gmail does give advice through a
link "Legitimate mail is marked as spam."


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Brenda Paternoster <
paternos...@appleshack.com> wrote:

> I see that both Antje, Karen and Adele have gmail addresses and Patricia
> is with AOL, all of which seems to concur with my earlier posting about it
> being a problem with the way those ISPs have changed their DMARC settings.
>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] more email fun, and fun with cats

2014-07-22 Thread Beth McCasland
I wound up having to make a "rule" about all messages from Arachne aren't
SPAM, in my gmail account.  I had wondered where all y'all had disappeared
to.
And for the grammarians:  if you're from the South (USA), "all y'all" is
correct grammar, sort of.  Sorry, I can't help myself, moved away almost 4
years ago, and I can't get the particular grammar out of my system.

Lace related - my cat has discovered my latest "safe" place to store the
work-in-progress pillow, but not a current project, on top of a tall
bookcase.  I thought it was safe.  Today I get to discover how much damage
has been done by one cat.  The pillow is covered with pinned down
cover-cloths, and in a cleaner's bag tied shut (quit cringing Jeri).  This
afternoon I'm off to the Container Store to try to find something more
permanent to store it.  If you hear screaming, crying, and general gnashing
of teeth around 4 PM Pacific Time, you'll know I have more than just some
errant bobbins.

Beth McCasland
in overcast Seattle, Washington

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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I see that both Antje, Karen and Adele have gmail addresses and Patricia is 
with AOL, all of which seems to concur with my earlier posting about it being a 
problem with the way those ISPs have changed their DMARC settings.

Brenda

On 22 Jul 2014, at 17:53, Karen ZM  wrote:

> Jeri's messages also go into my Spam folder - irrespective of the fact that
> I have put her name and address into my address book and I keep marking her
> messages as Not Spam.
> 
> 

Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Bev Walker
Hello everyone
For what it's worth,  aol, yahoo addresses and any message with capitalized
words in the subject line land in my Spam folder now. I have since added
the lace correspondents to my contacts. I noticed messages from Leonard,
Devon, Jeri, Patricia, and Hazel in the recent 50, along with some flyers I
like to get and wondered where they were - each of the latter had CAPS or
"strange letters" in the subject line. Thankyou Adele for pointing out the
Spam triggers.

I investigated Gmail's Spam advice. Having added the above to contacts,
their messages will now show in my Inbox. I hope so.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Lin Hudren  wrote:

> I am having the same difficult with Jeri's emails to me as well but they
> are routed to me as "spam" and i can change them...
>

-- 
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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Karen ZM
Jeri's messages also go into my Spam folder - irrespective of the fact that
I have put her name and address into my address book and I keep marking her
messages as Not Spam.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Lin Hudren
I am having the same difficult with Jeri's emails to me as well but they
are routed to me as "spam" and i can change them but they have kept falling
into the spam folder.  today i had another and will wait and see if that
one automatically is corrected as several others have been.  it is just
Jeri's that isn't getting corrected.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali

  *“*Advice is like snow - the softer it falls, the longer it dwells upon,
and the deeper it sinks into the mind.*”  **― Samuel Taylor Coleridge*

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[lace] Messages Not Getting Through - #2

2014-07-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Hello Again, Everybody:

Further to my last message - another thing that triggers Spam filters is if you 
have words spelled in all caps (ALL CAPS) in your subject line.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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[lace] Messages Not Getting Through

2014-07-22 Thread Adele Shaak
This isn't lace-related, but it is list-related so I hope the ListMom will 
forgive me for posting.

At the end of June, I was in the process of ordering some supplies from the UK. 
This involves messages back and forth for various reasons, and we had just 
started the messaging - I had given them my order and they had come back to me 
with the shipping cost - when they stopped answering their e-mails. I sent them 
more messages. No answer. After a week I thought maybe they had shut down or 
something, so I telephoned.

That's when I discovered that they *had* been sending me messages, and were 
wondering why *I* wasn't replying!

In Canada, new anti-Spam legislation took effect on July 1st, and my supplier's 
messages had somehow been flagged as Spam. With the standard setup at my 
service provider, anything flagged by them as Spam is automatically deleted - I 
don't even get the message. Now I have changed those settings so that my Spam 
goes into a special folder on their website - it is still not downloaded to me. 
Every couple of days I go in and see what I've got, and there are usually one 
or two addresses that are not spam at all, and I flag them as OK and download 
them to my mail software, where they appear marked as "Junk".

This morning, one of those messages was a normal Arachne message from Jeri. It 
had the subject line "Spangles!" and I can see why it was flagged - the subject 
has an exclamation mark. That's one of the things that triggers Spam filters, 
and I try not to use them. 

Hope this helps. I only found out what was happening because I remembered about 
the new legislation and complained to my service provider. 

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Over the last few weeks there have been changes to several of the other forums 
that I am subscribed to .  It’s because of changes to something called DMARC, 
which Yahoo and AOL in particular, plus a couple of other ISPs have been 
implementing, and it’a been causing all sorts of problems for mailing lists, 
depending on just how the individual lists are set up.  It’s something to do 
with the way it changes the info in the message headers, but one of the family 
history lists I am subscribed to has resorted to read-only for AOL and Gmail 
addresses as when they try to post/reply they get unsubscribed and the 
moderator has to manually re-subscribe them!

I’m guessing here but it may be something to do with those changes.  AlI I can 
suggest is that when messages from Jeri, or anyone else with an AOL email 
address, is received into your junk email box you mark it as not-junk and hope 
that your system is able to learn and over-ride any other settings.

Brenda


On 22 Jul 2014, at 09:35, scotl...@aol.com wrote:

> As they all do to me!  Can the techies give any advice?
> 
> Patricia in Wales
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Catherine Barley 
> 
> Dear Jeri
> 
> For some strange reason all your posting to Arachne come through to me in my
> Junk E-mail box!

Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread AGlez
Same happens to me! I thought is was a problem of my computer. I must
always check my junk box in order not to loose any of the interesting
emails from Jeriames.

Antje González, in sunny Spain
ww.vueltaycruz.es
https://www.etsy.com/shop/TwistAndCross

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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread scotlace
 As they all do to me!  Can the techies give any advice?

Patricia in Wales



-Original Message-
From: Catherine Barley 

Dear Jeri

For some strange reason all your posting to Arachne come through to me in my
Junk E-mail box!
>
>

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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread Sue Babbs
For a while, I have been noticing that all Arachne emails from AOL addresses 
go into my junk box - not just Jeri's.


Sue

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Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems

2014-07-22 Thread Tregellas Family
Let's hope that Noelene can find a reasonable freight cost for overseas 
postage of her revised book.  I do have her first book but this is so 
much nicer to have  -  spiral bound so it doesn't tear past the staples 
and some beautiful touches with the drawings.  Thank you Noelene for 
going to the trouble of re-printing, a book worth a spot on every 
lacemakers bookshelves.


Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  surfacing after OIDFA.


On 22/07/2014 9:19 AM, Noelene Lafferty wrote:

Sorry, my books won't be available at the IOLI convention, freight to the US
would be prohibitive.   I only updated the original booklet and had some
printed for the OIDFA congress in Adelaide this year, and sadly, they didn't
sell well, so I definitely don't want the additional expense of posting them
overseas.

The new booklet is some 20 sheets of A5 paper, printed both sides, with a
card back, clear plastic front and wire spiral bound.  I'll make enquiries
at the Post Office next time I'm in town to see what they would cost to post
overseas, but that won't be until much later this week - we now live some 20
minutes drive out of the southern outskirts of Canberra on 9 hectares of
Australian bush, and fulfilling overseas people's ideas of Australian life
by having kangaroos and wallabies hopping wild in our front and back yard!

Noelene at The Angle
noel...@ozemail.com.au

I have received an email from a UK  lacemaker who has kindly offered to buy
a copy of Noelene's Poems for me but we are wondering if it will be
available at the IOLI Convention this month in the US or whether I've got it
wrong and that it will be available at the OIDFA Convention in Australia,
also taking place this month?  Noelene is Australian so maybe I've got it
wrong!  However, I do seem to recall Holly Van Sciver being mentioned with
regard to having copies for sale.  Can anyone else recall any US lace
vendors being mentioned?




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Fw: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace

2014-07-22 Thread Catherine Barley

Dear Jeri

For some strange reason all your posting to Arachne come through to me in my 
Junk E-mail box!  I have twice sent the email below to you personally but it 
has been returned 'Failed bad destination system address'.  I would hate you 
to think that I had not even bothered to reply so hope I will be forgiven in 
contacting you this way (see below).  Fortunately I do check my Junk E-mails 
on a daily basis so don't miss anything.


Kind Regards

Catherine


Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Noelene's Poems - Inspired by Lace



Dear Jeri

Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to let me know that 
Holly does not have Noelene's book of Poems listed on her site.  No doubt 
you will have read Noelene's posting on Arachne.


Postage/shipping costs are somewhat prohibitive at present and postage to 
the US and Australia for one of my own Print On Demand books is almost 
half the cost of the book in addition!  Sales have been good for me but 
quite a number of people have not followed through when advised of the 
cost of shipping.  Money is tight for everyone at the moment and all 
having to think twice when it comes to purchases.


If you're attending the IOLI Convention yourself next month Jeri, I'm sure 
you will have a wonderful time.


Many thanks once again.

Kind Regards

Catherine

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com




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