Re: [lace] Lace in England?
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Re: [lace] Lace in England?
Lynn Why not consider renting an automatic car? We always do that, especially if we are to drive âon the other side of the roadâ. It takes the headache out of shifting with the âotherâ hand and leaves us to concentrate fully on the road. Karen in Malta On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 12:29 AM, wrote: > I know there must be things in the archive about places to see lace in > England, but I am not smart enough to be able to figure out how to find > it. We will be in Peterborough, England, taking a class next April. We > are hoping not to have to rent a car, but can do so. Shifting with the > left hand is the really hard part. We are looking for places with lace > museums, examples of lace, that sort of thing. These things change over > time. Honiton is a bit far, but I had a glorious time there in 2002, > although I believe the shop on the High Street is gone. I assume the > museum is still open. I know that the V & A's lace collection is > elsewhere, but I don't know where. Help! This is the time to make room > reservations. lrb > > > "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, > please ignore it. I read your emails." > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
Devon, The UK Lace Guild has a draft of a book on lacemaking by Ethel Nettleship in which the instructions tell you to work with one hand for the bobbins and the other for placing pins. I can’t remember the details and I’m away from home right now but have them somewhere at home. I can look them out when I get home at the end of the month. Ethel Nettleship was an interesting lady who made lace in colour with subjects like parrots, cats, and even bread and butter! As far as I remember she was making lace in the 1930s and 40s - the UK Lace Guild now has her surviving lace and prickings in its Museum Collection. Jean currently in Lake Arrowhead CA before moving on to San Antonio TX for the IOLI Convention --- Jean Leader www.jeanleader.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] IOLI Bulletin and Google Account
I got my paper version of the Bulletin at the weekend. After some nagging from my daughter, I finally decided to open a Google account if I could. Lin, your suggestion of having a separate gmail account for Bulletin access only would not work as the new email would be shown in the Handbook , and not the one I prefer to use. Anyway, I just tried to create a Google account to find that my jblace email is already in there. How did that happen, guess I must have done it years ago and totally forgot about it. I did change my password as suggested by Google. Now I am set up for the next Bulletin online. I presume I will receive an email with a link to the Bulletin when the time comes. I still want the paper version though. I might be back with questions if I can't access it. Sue, No, I doubt that the IOLI will make the handbook available online, even though it would only be accessible by those signed up for the Bulletin. If it can be downloaded, then it could be shared! Devon, This made me chuckle in the last digest, how many hands do you have. I had visions of a lacemaker with three or more hands. That would be helpful at times. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] early lace video
I wonder if some sort of injury or neurological disorder has her using her dominant hand so little. I assume that her right hand sets the pins because she has better control; but she is only using 2 fingers of that hand. The others aren't doing anything. Also, being right handed, I could never acquire so much fine control of my left hand. Mostly I use both hands equally. But my more precise hand sets the pins. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com On Behalf Of Devon Thein Subject: [lace] early lace video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc is may favorite to date, although at 1931, I wish it was a little bit earlier. This youtube is interesting in that the woman is using her left hand way more than I use mine. In some cases, it seems like she does all the movements with her left hand and uses the right, principally for pin placement. Is this an aberration - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace in England?
I know there must be things in the archive about places to see lace in England, but I am not smart enough to be able to figure out how to find it. We will be in Peterborough, England, taking a class next April. We are hoping not to have to rent a car, but can do so. Shifting with the left hand is the really hard part. We are looking for places with lace museums, examples of lace, that sort of thing. These things change over time. Honiton is a bit far, but I had a glorious time there in 2002, although I believe the shop on the High Street is gone. I assume the museum is still open. I know that the V & A's lace collection is elsewhere, but I don't know where. Help! This is the time to make room reservations. lrb "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] YouTube of early bobbin and/or needlelace
I was also surprised to see that the lacemaker was using what I know as "Bucks thumpers" to make Bedfordshire lace. Thumpers refers to the style of bobbin she is using. I was not aware that they used thumpers for Beds. Jill - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] YouTube of early bobbin and/or needlelace
Thank you Jill—great vids! When I watched the tambour episode, there was an on screen pop-up offering to license the film. Perhaps Devon could follow that thread? I too was struck by the one-handed bobbin manipulation! Holy Cow—lots of stitches made in a row with minimal tensioning. If I made lace like that I would have a rat’s nest of threads PDQ. However, no wonder it’s such a quick method. There’s no lifting of bobbins—they just sort of roll over each other one way, then the other. Very interesting to say the least. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
We used to have an English woman in our lace club, who made her tallies by holding the 3 passive bobbins stationary with one hand, and just working the weaving bobbin over, under, over, under, and so on. It was very quick. Pity the film doesnât show the womanâs technique. Adele > On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Devon Thein wrote: > > For instance the > tally. I think you need two hands at a minimum for a talley. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] flower festival and lace
I have been told that Sue Babbs is currently away on holiday but Lin Hudren kindly helped put them on Flickr for me, thank you Lin. Sue T Dorset UK I friend of ours has been on holiday on the Isles of Scilly which is a small cluster of Islands just off the coast of South West UK, for those who live in another country. She tells me 2000 people live near. Her and her husband went around visiting places they thought of interest and found a flower festival with lace so took some photos to send to me when she got home. She says the pictures were taken on St Mary's, Scilly. The church of Mary, the Virgin.. So anybody in the area who is interested but doesnt know about it I am passing on the information. It all looks lovely, the combination of blue and white in flowers, lace and blue pillow etc. Sue T Dorset UK, continuing to be unusually warmer or very hot in parts of our country. to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
One person has suggested off list that the woman is a lefty, or injured her hand in an accident. But I think that a lefty would put the pins in with the left hand, because that is arguably the thing that requires the most precision. When I was trying to make lace as fast as possible, and it was Bucks, not Beds as this appears to be, I found myself using both my hands as much as possible so that I was twisting with both hands simultaneously. Perhaps it depends on the lace. Also, it is frustrating that the close-ups of the lace don't allow you to see how she is making the feature. For instance the tally. I think you need two hands at a minimum for a talley. Devon On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Adele Shaak wrote: > I think if you made lace for a living, you went as fast as you could, and > certainly making lace with one hand and putting in pins with the other is a > big step up in speed. Probably different lacemakers had different solutions > to the problem of “how can I make this faster”. > > I know when I was making my first 5-metre piece, which was Torchon, I got to > know the pattern so well that I didn’t have to think about it, and I used to > see how fast I could make various parts. I could make a crown during the > time it took my teakettle to boil. (the tea was a treat for me because I > hated making the crowns). I found a lot of time-saving movements began to > happen without thinking, and knowing the pattern so well, and having to > repeat it about 275 times, I saw different patterns and different, faster > ways to work the bobbins. > > I got to stop after 5 metres; I don’t mean to sound facetious, but try > making your Bucks Point pattern as fast as possible for 8-10 hours a day for > a decade or so, and see how fast you get! > > Having said that, of course quality suffers when you go for speed, and we > hobby lacemakers can take our time and try to make perfect lace. Watching > the video, I was certainly struck by how, um, really not very good, the lace > was that she was making. > > Adele > > > > This youtube is interesting in that the woman is using her left hand > > way more than I use mine. In some cases, it seems like she does all > the movements with her left hand and uses the right, principally for > pin placement. Is this an aberration between two lacemakers, or do we > think that this is historically correct? > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
I think if you made lace for a living, you went as fast as you could, and certainly making lace with one hand and putting in pins with the other is a big step up in speed. Probably different lacemakers had different solutions to the problem of âhow can I make this fasterâ. I know when I was making my first 5-metre piece, which was Torchon, I got to know the pattern so well that I didnât have to think about it, and I used to see how fast I could make various parts. I could make a crown during the time it took my teakettle to boil. (the tea was a treat for me because I hated making the crowns). I found a lot of time-saving movements began to happen without thinking, and knowing the pattern so well, and having to repeat it about 275 times, I saw different patterns and different, faster ways to work the bobbins. I got to stop after 5 metres; I donât mean to sound facetious, but try making your Bucks Point pattern as fast as possible for 8-10 hours a day for a decade or so, and see how fast you get! Having said that, of course quality suffers when you go for speed, and we hobby lacemakers can take our time and try to make perfect lace. Watching the video, I was certainly struck by how, um, really not very good, the lace was that she was making. Adele > This youtube is interesting in that the woman is using her left hand > way more than I use mine. In some cases, it seems like she does all > the movements with her left hand and uses the right, principally for > pin placement. Is this an aberration between two lacemakers, or do we > think that this is historically correct? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
Hello Devon and everyone The method shown looks like the way to do it for speed in production. In a way reminds me of the efficiency of movement when touch-typing (now there's a dying art, ha ha). I've accidentally made lace the way she is doing - except really *slow* - when I was holding the lace book open at a diagram with my right hand, to look at while I used the fingers of my left hand to move the bobbins. Fascinating. I wonder if she is making the leaf/tally with the left hand, too. Maybe, maybe not. On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:45 AM Devon Thein wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc ... > This youtube is interesting in that the woman is using her left hand > way more than I use mine. In some cases, it seems like she does all > the movements with her left hand and uses the right, principally for > pin placement. Is this an aberration between two lacemakers, or do we > think that this is historically correct? > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] early lace video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcSaAXtZsc is may favorite to date, although at 1931, I wish it was a little bit earlier. For Saint Catherine's Day, I tried to explore the lace tells, and to that end, and with the help of arachne, located a Bucks Point pattern that is simple and intuitive, then tried to make it as fast as I could. I have to say, I worked up impressive speed. However, my husband told me that he believed that if I were to ever really see what they were doing in the 19th century, it would be entirely different than what I was doing. This youtube is interesting in that the woman is using her left hand way more than I use mine. In some cases, it seems like she does all the movements with her left hand and uses the right, principally for pin placement. Is this an aberration between two lacemakers, or do we think that this is historically correct? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] flower festival and lace
I friend of ours has been on holiday on the Isles of Scilly which is a small cluster of Islands just off the coast of South West UK, for those who live in another country. She tells me 2000 people live near. Her and her husband went around visiting places they thought of interest and found a flower festival with lace so took some photos to send to me when she got home. She says âpictures were taken on St Mary's, Scilly. The church of Mary, the Virgin.â. So anybody in the area who is interested but doesnât know about it I am passing on the information. It all looks lovely, the combination of blue and white in flowers, lace and blue pillow etc. Sue Babbs, if you would be so kind as to post them on the flickr page for anyone else who might like to see, I would be grateful. Sue T Dorset UK, continuing to be unusually warmer or very hot in parts of our country. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
