[lace] old lace related document
Hi spiders Long time since I've posted, but I've been lurking nevertheless. Anyhow, whilst doing some research at the County Record Office, in Ipswich, Suffolk (UK), I came across referencing to an old document, which I did have a quick look at. It is an old vellum document dating from 1830 and it details the Deed of Partnership between Jonathan Austin and John Greenwood who were lace manufacturers in Nottingham (UK). I didn't read further because I had limited time for my own research. I don't know if anyone is doing research to which this may be relavant, or knows someone who is, but if you are please contact me and I can give you the specific catalogue details for re-locating this item. If you were actually looking for it you'd never find it and why it is in the Ipswich Record Office archive is anybodies guess. bye for now Nicky in Suffolk where it has been bitterly cold, wet and well normal English weather I suppose. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] old? Bucks Lace postcard
Hi Spiders I've recently acquired a postcard depicting 20 Bucks lace workers, members of the Bucks lace Industry, Olney. It states that their combined age is 1600 years the average age is given as 80. The postcard is not postally dated so I don't know how old it is, nor is the printers name given. However, there are 20 elderly ladies and underneath they have signed their names/or made their mark beside their name. They are -: Eliza Harper 84; Isabella Dowdy 77; Ellen Clare 84; Emma Richardson 81; Mercy Sanders 84; Elizabeth Kingston 80; Harriet Cooper 73; Sarah Ann Warren 72; Fanny --penny 81; Mary Percival 77; Martha Hinde 74; Sarah Hedge 87; Elizabeth -cester 83; Jane Brice 72; Helen Haynes 87; Charity Harper 85; J. Ellis 82; Sarah -Maslars? 72; Tamar Linger ? 87 E. Salisum? One or two of the names are quite hard to read/decipher (the dashes are a random number). Does anyone have any information about either the postcard and or the lacemakers listed. Many thanks Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: Old Bucks Postcard
Many thanks to all you wonderful spiders who have sent me information about the old Bucks postcard, greatly appreciated. I have e.mailed Lori to let her know that I will send a picture of the card just as soon as I can, have family arriving over the next few days, more than anticipated. many thanks again Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] new e.mail address
Hi Spiders Have been having untold problems with some low life who has infiltrated my e.mail and caused untold problems, they've evaded every MacAfee spam/filter security and so I've had to change my address with immediate effect to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do these people not have better things to do with their lives is their a link to children being on school holiday and simply being bored? Best wishes Nicky Hoewener-Townsend chair Suffolk Lacemakers - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Norwich Suppliers Fair
The Norwich Suppliers Fair is organised by Norfolk Lacemakers and is being held at the John Innes Centre, Norwich Norfolk on Sunday 31st October. Norwich is centrally situated in the county of Norfolk in the region known as East Anglia ie in the middle of the large bump on the eastern side of England. Nickyfrom Suffolk who is looking forward to attending - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #394
- > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 03:38:45 +1100 From: David Collyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Lucky Purchas today Dear Friends, I had a phone call this week from a woman who finds she no longer wants to make lace and needs to get rid of her gear. Can you believe that??!!! Your not the only lucky one David, I had a lady call me yesterday who is looking for a good home for a pillow and bobbins, have arranged to go and collect them on Monday, (assuming I'm not suffering from an overdose of chocolate! or a hang over from the party!). Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] old lace bobbins
Hi spiders Shortly before Christmas I was given a large number of old bobbins, a few are very similar to those shown in David Springetts book and I'm getting a second opinion on them soon. In the main they had belonged to the ladies aunt (born 1887) who lived most of her life in the Shenley area of Bucks. Having done some research into the family I have found that several generations lived in the area of Shenley, Aldbury and Ivinghoe (all Bucks). A number of them were straw plaiters, and as I understand this aunt was the only lacemaker amongst them I was told she made lace to add to the family income. A good number of the bobbins were inherited by this aunt from a woman called Ruth Higgs, who lived in a nearby village - but at present I don't know which one. The aunts family name was Daniels on the fathers side and Waterton on the mothers. Are there any folk on this list who have any local knowledge of the area that may be of use / help to me in finding out more about this aunt and her lacemaking or about Ruth Higgs. (I have access to census records). I have several addresses relating to the family -: 1 New Road Shenley Brook End; 2 New Road Shenley Brook End; Lower Barbery End Ivinghoe; Ringshall The Row Ivinghoe; can any of these addresses be located today, do they still exist? I'm hoping to visit the area possibly next month on a flying visit so it would help to know where to look. I know this is a long shot but then its amazing what a mine of information arachneans are and any information ould be greatly appreciated. In anticipation Nicky in a grey, grey Suffolk. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Old Lace Bobbins
Hello Diana Thank you so much for the reply. Absolutely fantastic. Priscilla Daniels would have been the aunt of the lady who originally owned the bobbins and Mrs [Emma] Daniels would have been her mother. I've not come across Betsy Willett - will search tonight when I visit the Family History Centre. Only a few of the bobbins have names, I have put into brackets the family relationship that I believe they may relate to as these names are confirmed on the genealogy research I have done so far, they are, Emma [mother], Ann [paternal grandmother], Fanny [maternal great grandmother] , Betsy [maternal grandmother]and Benjamin [no idea on this one but does it relate to the "my love" a romantic possibility perhaps?] One also has the year "1875" and another "my love". Is there any possibility of my having a copy of the photograph, I'd be very happy to reimburse you any costs. I really do appreciate your taking the time to check this out for me. Very best wishes Nicky -- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:56:14 - From: "Diana Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Re Old lace bobbins Hello Nicky I've done a lot of research on the old lacemakers of the East Midlands and have a large collection of photographs. I've had a quick look through and found pictures of a Mrs Daniels of Shenley taken c1905, a group with a Priscilla Daniels and one of Mrs Betsy Willett (nee Daniels) who was c1930 residing in the Shenley Almhouses. In my very quick search I've found nothing on Waterton or Higgs. Things are rather rushed at the moment so I'll dig more deeply later but I doubt I'll find anything else. Are there any inscriptions on the bobbins you've been given? I also keep a database of any old bobbin inscriptions - amongst other things ;-) Best wishes Diana Smith in Northamptonshire where it is bright and sunny but rather frosty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re:lacemakers getting together
It's been interesting to read how the various groups meet up etc so I just thought that I'd add my bit too. The classes I teach were originally adult education classes at the local college when I was invited by the retiring tutor to take them over. All went well for the first year apart from the fact that the college wanted everyone to work towards assessment which was non too popular with ladies who were making lace for pleasure. The following year it was made very clear that we were not welcome - we were sited in a room in one of the colleges annexe buildings, on the second floor - surrounded by decorators equipment and even a couple of chainsaws ! What they thought I might do with those we will leave to the imagination. The first night of classes I wondered why so few had turned up, it wasn't until almost time to go home that the ladies and I discovered what was up. The caretaker walked into class and was extremely surprised to see us. He had been walking home when he saw the room light on and came to investigate it transpired that we had been locked in sometime earlier and left with no access to fire escapes, emergency telephone etc etc and we weren't even supposed to be there! Needless to say I went to see the college principle, just about every rule of health and saftey had been broken by the college - her attitude didn't help - well they are just a group of old ladies does it really matter stance - I somewhat flipped as I pointed out that they were the mothers and wives of policemen, fire inspectors, health and safty inspectors and lawyers and could probably between them get the college shut down ! We went private a week later. Today I teach the classes from home, weekly on roughly a school term basis. I don't have a large house just two dining room tables (one in the adjoining conservatory) which are sufficient for up to nine students, and a husband who now makes lace (if you can't beat them join them) and attends every class (now grown from the original 2 to 3). I am registered with Inland revenue and I don't advertise, my classes are rarely ever short on numbers and when they do drop (I had to shut for a term because of convalesence after an operation) the numbers soon pick up again. We get to lace days and events around our region and enjoy our lacemaking. As they say variety is the spice of life - what matters is that lacemakers can meet up and enjoy their lacemaking. Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace classes - inspections and qualifications
I completed the Adult and Further Education Teaching qualification several years ago, which I passed, but when it came to receiving my certificate they refused to give it to me until I passed GCSE maths! Apparently I was supposed to have had either this or maths o'level when I enrolled for the course but needless to say no one told me this nor was it listed anywhere in the information I received about the course, they were only too happy to take my money! I did take maths GCSE, what a sham that was - mainly taught myself as the tutor wouldn't teach anyone wanting to take the higher paper as a grade c is all that they required students to achieve, and as I wanted to get at least grade b I had no option- I got an a grade and finally got my teaching certificate but I was rather miffed about it all. As for the Teaching certificate - well I suppose the good thing about it was that it got me back into studying again - having left school aged 14 and a bit years old with 8 o'levels - it had been sometime since I'd done any academic work, as for the course itself - well the main tutor was too busy trying to ingratiate himself with some of the women in the class, he became known as "Rick the " - yep you probably worked that one out. I was very disappointed with the course as it seemed nobody really bothered to read any of the essays we had to write, my work was submitted to the moderator for assessment (at further expense to me and it wasn't cheap about £50) and it wasn't even looked at. I came away from the course feeling very very disillusioned with the system, the college, the whole process. My classes being forced out of the college was a godsend teaching at home has proved so much more rewarding, relaxing and enjoyable - and the students like it too or they wouldn't keep coming let alone recommending them. Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Tracey Emin's bed
Oh what a relief, I'm clearly not the only one that thinks this piece of trash - take that how you will (didn't it also list on the bed cover all the men she'd slept with?) - is just another example of Emporer's New Clothes. Visited the Tate Modern a couple of months back, admittedly I wouldn't claim to be a fan of modern art but I went with an open mind and came rushing out of the building after barely 10 minutes holding my head in absolute agony - we'd been in the main hall (used to house the power stations generators?) they were/are having an exhibition which is basically 50 or so speakers around the hall all emitting repeated sounds - at first I couldn't make out what it was all about so went to walk over to a board which I thought would it explain it all, didn't get that far felt a dreadful explosion of pain in my head as I suffered an attack of vertigo, brought on by the awful cacophony of noise! Two hours later I was still feeling very nauseaous and no I shall never ever return. Nicky in Suffolk Tracey Emin is an "artist". Her "My bed" was short-listed for the Turner Art Prize in 1999. "A bed in which she claimed to have spent a week after a bad break-up complete with vodka bottles, cigarette butts and pregnancy tests." Se's clever though - it's made her very well known and wealthy. It was in The Saatchi Collection in London, but I don't know (or care) where it is now. It is ashes, it was in the art storage fire last year Best place for it in my opinion. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace shops
Hi spiders Like Sue, those of us who live in Suffolk are also greatly spoiled for access to lace suppliers, Suffolk Lacemakers organise 5 lace days each year and we have easy access to those held in the neighbouring counties of Essex, Cambridge and Norfolk. In fact you can have a hard job deciding on which ones to attend as you could probably get to at least one a month. We also run a bring and buy service for members (you can bring along and sell lace items that you no longer require and the group get 10% of the sale price), at last weekends lace get-together we made around £40 for the group through this facility, tickets for the day were sold out and our visiting suppliers were more than happy with their sales for the day too). Reading about the lack of facilities that other lacemakers face really makes me appreciate what we have here and I try to remind my students of how lucky we are and encourage them to make use of what we have - so that we don't lose them. Nicky in Suffolk UK Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:19:55 - From: "Maureen Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [lace] Lace Shops Patty and all spiders, re" no lacemaker lives in lace heaven" well I think in Norfolk we do, we have at least eight lace days in the surrounding area that we can attend plus we have really good access to most of the suppliers in the UK via phone or e-mail, we also have a non profit making shop at the Norfolk Lacemakers once a month, so I consider we are very fortunate and feel so sorry for our sisters (and a few brothers) across the big pond that do not have the same. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - - Original Message - From: "Patricia Dowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Lace Shops Noelene wrote: ... The lace fairs in the UK and Europe people talk about seem well patronised, we have nothing like that here in Australia. So keep your emails coming in about new books and products, otherwise we'll never know what's available at least by mail order! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Norfolk Lace Day
Hi Sue Glad to hear that your arm is now better and you are back to your lacemaking. Like you I'm looking forward to the lace day in Norwich on Saturday, I shall be taking along the old bobbins that I was recently given for Carol Morris to have a look at, her comments will be of great interest. there are about 12 of us from my classes going but it's always nice to see friends that you only get to see at the lace days. See you there. Nicky Suffolk UK (we won't forget our passports) Also looking forward to Norfolk Lacemakers Laceday on Saturday hope to see all my lace friends there. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Now happily lacing again now my arm is better. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] raffle - this must be a record
Sorry Jacqui, but I don't think so. I did a raffle for 12 pairs of Maltese bobbins Christmas 2003 and I received 129 entries! Until then I hadn't appreciated just how many are/were on the arachne list. Nicky in Suffolk Well, I think this must be some kind of record! We had 55 responses. I will be posting your spiders to you as soon as possible. Enjoy them. Regards Jacqui Butler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] elastic for wedding garter
Hi Jill I have made several wedding garters now, one of which I wore myself almost six years ago. I have found that threading the wide knicker type elastic through the middle where the ribbon would go to be most uncomfortable and unsatisfactory. So the method I use is to slip stitch sheering elastic along both edges just to the side of where the ribbon is threaded, the bit that is like a footside edge running down either side of the middle. The sheering elastic does not leave nasty marks and is strong enough to hold the garter in place quite securely. Once the sheering elastic is slip stitched into place ( I do not stretch the elastic at this stage) I knot the ends and then carefully pull up the sheering elastic so that the garter ruches up. Once the elastic has been pulled up so that the garter is about the right size to fit I tie a new knot so as to shorten the elastic and cut off the excess elastic. I leave a bit of leeway so that the garter can be further adjusted nearer the day by the bride if need be (having shown her before hand how to do it). The ribbon looks as if it is holding the garter in place but it is the elastic that does the work. The waste sheering elastic doesn't actually go to waste I use it double thickness to thread through two beads, one larger than the other (size of those used as a bottom bead for a spangle or slightly larger) - a bit like a hair bobble. They are useful for holding two bobbins linked together when you need to use two bobbins as if they were one ie adding in a bobbin to replace one that it is running short of thread. Slip around the two bobbins and pass one bead over the other. Hope that this is of use to you. Nicky in Suffolk I would really appreciate some advice about elastic for wedding garters please :o) I have completed a garter (one of Biggin's torchon garter patterns) for one of my friends at work - although she doesn't know it yet - and luckily she is one of these stick insect types so I didn't have to do yards and yards of it. Having said that, I thoroughly enjoyed doing it and am quite sorry it is finished. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] elastic for a wedding garter
Hi Jill Glad to have been able to help out, as you say the shirring elastic is nice and discreet, either white or ivory should be fine, the ribbon just finishes it off. I know it adds time to the making of the garter but I think that it's time well spent. Why cut corners especially when you take into consideration the time spent making the garter in the first place! My new daughter-in-law had no problems wearing her garter using this method (they married in February) and I'm trusting that my daughter-in-law to be has no problems wearing hers come August, it has just recently been completed so she hasn't seen it yet. The idea of offering a choice of ivory or blue ribbon is a nice idea, I like that. Hope all goes well for the wedding. Best wishes Nicky in Suffolk .and waste not want not, I loved your other tip of using the waste elastic for using double bobbins when thread is running out :o) Thanks for all the advice. Jill - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] suffolk lacemakers
dear spiders i have just had the most awful shock. i have just been advised that the web site name, that was until recently, used by suffolk lacemakers has now been purchased by another company and is being used to directly link unsuspecting people to porn sites! we had used the web site for the past two years, but had begun having problems with access earlier this year, our isp host " freeola" were extremely unhelpful. when "nominet" informed me that to continue use of thename was going to cost £94.00 for a further two years I declined as we were unable to access the site and upload and/or download new or amended pages. i have contacted both the british police and "nominet" and have been informed that there is nothing i can do about this, it is legal! please be warned that there are "companies" out there watching for groups such as ourselves, church groups etc etc just waiting to get the domain name if it is allowed to lapse so that they can use it for their thoroughly disgusting and underhand purposes. please also know that this site is absolutely nothing to do with suffolk lacemakers or any member of suffolk lacemakers. nicky hoewener-townsend chairman suffolk lacemakers please excuse typing but i have had an accident and am only able to use one arm. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] gozo lace
dear arne the lace school is run by consiglio azzarpardi so you may be able to get details direct from her if not, you could e.mail me direct and i will be able to forward on more information about the lace school in gozo, one of my students (and her husband) went there this summer and had a very enjoyable time, so i can find the information you want from her. nicky suffolk ps excuse typing but i had an accident on holiday and can still only use one arm. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
