[lace] de-lurking
Hello All, I have resubscribed to this list after a long absence and I have enjoyed the discussions very much. I have recently been able to get my lace supplies out of mothballs and begin to relearn and I have run into a discrepancy. I want to try a Torchon fan pattern in Louise Colgan's book Bobbin Lace Fans and the pattern includes a gimp. I mostly worked in Buck's Point way back when (and was a beginner at that!). I noticed that in both Buck's books that I have, both Pamela Nottingham and Geraldine Stott are quite clear about the gimp thread always going over the right and under the left of a pair of bobbins when traveling through the lace. However, in Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace by Bridget Cook, she states that the gimp should always go under the right and over the left to prevent the twist being undone. Now I am wondering if it matters at all, or if the over-right-under-left is just for point ground and it is done another way in Torchon. What say all of you? TIA, Elise - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] de-lurking - gimp thread
Hello Elise and everyone On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Scott Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am wondering if it matters at all, or if the over-right-under-left is just for point ground and it is done another way in Torchon. I have long ago forgotten any rule that applies, specifically, except to be consistent. So, out of habit for any lace I lift the left bobbin, pass the gimp through the pair (it has gone over the right bobbin, and under the left). I do that for any lace, putting a twist or two to the pair as required (or not - it depends on the pattern) before or after the gimp. In some laces, e.g. Flanders, there are no twists; in others at least one on one side, if not both. Then again it depends on the effect I'm after. Does this help? Welcome out of lurkdom. Post again, post often :) -- Bev (near Sooke, BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] de-lurking - gimp thread
Greetings, Arachnids!! Forgive me if I include the full thread of this discussion, so far, but I think it is necessary. Bev has very wisely advised that a) whatever you do is consistent, and b) adhere to the basic rules of the lace you are working. But more and more, as I venture out to patterns that appeal to me, I'm faced with decisions about how many twists before and after... and this applies to lots of significant places As some of you know, Binche is my lace of interest.But even within this discipline, there is a lot of room for interpretation. And so... here's my two cents worth on the subject: * If you working with a teacher - go with his/her recommendations until you're comfortable with the essentials of the lace. * If you're working on your own, but have access to a decent photo of the original lace... then determine how it was done then, and attempt to replicate it. * If you flying solo, but really love the look of the lace, the do what you have to do to make that lace look the way you want it to. Be prepared to do a lot of backing up and re-doing, but once you've found your rule, then stick with it. Regardless of how many people there seem to be on this list at any given time who are experts, the simple fact is, that in all the world there are very few experts in any field of lace at any given time. If you aspire to be an historically correct expert, that is one thing. But if you aspire to make beautiful lace, that's another thing altogether. And I submit that most of us just want to make beautiful lace. So forge your own path, and enjoy!! AND... as Bev says, Post again, post often!! Clay bevw wrote: Hello Elise and everyone On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Scott Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am wondering if it matters at all, or if the over-right-under-left is just for point ground and it is done another way in Torchon. I have long ago forgotten any rule that applies, specifically, except to be consistent. So, out of habit for any lace I lift the left bobbin, pass the gimp through the pair (it has gone over the right bobbin, and under the left). I do that for any lace, putting a twist or two to the pair as required (or not - it depends on the pattern) before or after the gimp. In some laces, e.g. Flanders, there are no twists; in others at least one on one side, if not both. Then again it depends on the effect I'm after. Does this help? Welcome out of lurkdom. Post again, post often :) -- - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] De-lurking thanks
Hello everyone. its about time i updated you with some of my projects. I wanted to let you all know how much i appreciated the advice for making my friends wedding garter by putting the photos on webshots. the link below is to the finished product but there are some in progress shots on there too. the pattern was the little hearts bucks edging on either side with insertion through the middle. the final result was fab, but perhaps would have been quicker to make all three piece seperately then sewn all together at end ; i dunno if there will be a next time to find out- i was mentally drained after the grand total of 80hrs work!! http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2992925910048870129iqYHCS since then i had a break moved to ireland and undertook a long-time wish project of mine- the sunset-colour torchon circle i also added to my album. very bright but i think it works- i would love to hear your thoughts. thanks again- without this support network there are things I would never try. round of applause thank you again (esp. sue in dorset!) Rhiannon In sunny Co. Meath _ Windows Live Spaces your life, your Space. Click here to find out more. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] De-lurking thanks
Rhiannon, thank you for the thought, blushing furiously, g. Dont forget it was you who lead me to find these networks. I took a look at your pictures, they look great, what a refreshing change with the colours, I am a dreadful conservative bore mostly with my colours, but yours smacked me in the eyes. I love them and I definately need a shake up sometimes. I hope that your move to ireland has been all you wish and certainly carry on working your lovely lace. Sue T in Dorset g Hello everyone. its about time i updated you with some of my projects. I wanted to let you all know how much i appreciated the advice for making my friends wedding garter by putting the photos on webshots. the link below is to the finished product but there are some in progress shots on there too. the pattern was the little hearts bucks edging on either side with insertion through the middle. the final result was fab, but perhaps would have been quicker to make all three piece seperately then sewn all together at end ; i dunno if there will be a next time to find out- i was mentally drained after the grand total of 80hrs work!! http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2992925910048870129iqYHCS since then i had a break moved to ireland and undertook a long-time wish project of mine- the sunset-colour torchon circle i also added to my album. very bright but i think it works- i would love to hear your thoughts. thanks again- without this support network there are things I would never try. round of applause thank you again (esp. sue in dorset!) Rhiannon In sunny Co. Meath _ Windows Live Spaces - your life, your Space. Click here to find out more. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [lace] De-lurking thanks
For Daphne Others; the little hearts edging and insertion patterns are from 100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns - G Stott B Cook. Combining the pattern was fiddley but SO worth it i'm sure you agree?!? I hope to get the bride to send me a less blurred photo soon. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [lace] De-lurking thanksDate: Sun, 18 May 2008 14:02:16 +0100 Hello Rhiannon What a beautifull piece of lace.Where did you get the pattern from??? I would like a copy.Were the dark reds in the lace the colours of the bridesmaid dresses.I also like the elastic you used for it. It has a lacey effect as well. Happy lacemakingDaphne _ Windows Live Spaces your life, your Space. Click here to find out more. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] De-lurking
Hi All Recent messages have made me realise just how guilty I am of Lurking. I've been on the list since 1996 and have hardly posted at all for the last few years. So to redress the balance here goes for a short report (got to be short as I'm off to Lace Day in Garrucha in half an hour). This summer DH and I decided to visit Dutch friends who had moved to France a couple of years ago. A look at a large scale map showed that their hamlet (3 houses) ia about an hours drive from Le Puy. As this has been on my 'must go there' list for a long time it seemed to good an opportunity to miss. 3 days driving - it's a long way from southern Spain - (including going over the fantastic Millau brige) bought us to our destination and peace and quiet in our friends new home (old farmhouse which they are renovating). Several glasses of wine later and lots of talking and I found out that Le Puy would not be my only place to visit. The nearby village of Arlanc also has a Lace Museum so that got added to the 'must visit' list. After a couple of days 'chilling out' we set off to Arlanc and what a wonderful surprise. A small museum dedicated entirely to lace and with a wonderful French lacemaker to make sure we got the most out of it. Having taken our money, she accompanied us round the museum explaining the history of the local lace industry, who the photo's were of and their relevance, pulled out drawers full of lace which wasn't on display and generaly made sure we hadn't missed anything. 2 hours passed swiftly and as we left she gave us a lace museum 'passport' which would give us discount on the entry price of other lace museums in the district. Rest of report will have to wait till later as it's time for me to leave for Lace Day... report on that later as well :-) Pam Mattioli in sunny Vera Playa in Almeria in the south of Spain - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] De-lurking
Hi everyone and Pam On 10/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All to redress the balance here goes for a short report (got to be short as I'm off to Lace Day in Garrucha in half an hour). IIRC, this is the sort of thing people posted lots of, as well as the ongoing questions about lacemaking, there were write-ups of trips and visits with other lacemakers - in effect we are truly celebrating Arachne right now. Pam and everyone, write on! -- bye for now Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
