[lace] Milanese lace workshop, Venetian study trip and Metal bobbin lace course
Hello everyone, Just wanted to let you know that there are still a couple of places left in our Milanese lace course and Venetian lace study tour this September. The link to the Milanese course is here: http://www.textilesupport.it/the-baroque-garden/ And to the Venetian trip here: http://www.textilesupport.it/lace-in-venice/ I am also delighted to announce that enrollments are open for our metal bobbin lace course in November which will be taught by the very talented Alicia Jane Boswell, you can see more details at the following link: http://www.textilesupport.it/metal-bobbin-lace/ For any questions don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, Angharad -- Angharad Rixon Via Milazzo 191 27100 Pavia tel. 0382 300061 cell. 349 293 8972 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Milanese Lace
Hello, A friend let me borrow some hand outs from a Milanese lace class taught by Louise Colgan. They had great diagrams and instruction. I know there is a DVD of her instruction http://www.henselproductions.com/milanese.html She's teaching a IOLI this year and I'm so excited to take her class! Hope that helps, Robin -- Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination. The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit. Now, let's dance. *~Tom Hiddleston* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace
Hi Sue et al, I am always amazed by the prices paid for Newnham bobbin winders!I use those as my 'yardstick' of how silly the bidders are as to price, as the winders can be purchased at general suppliers for between £19.00 and £21.00 - and yet people will pay three times that much, plus postage, package and handling, for Newnham bobbin winders on eBay.It always makes me want to contact those bidding, and let them know the names of general suppliers ... Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: [lace] Milanese Lace £36 for a Milanese book that is available for sale at less than that price, brand new. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Milanese Lace
Hello Carol I agree with what you are saying about the prices paid for winders etc. It might be a good idea for us more experienced lacemakers to do as you suggested contacting the bidder. It may be that they think they are doing well by paying an inflated price. If they are new to lacemaking,they won`t know any better at times. Maybe they don`t have a teacher to guide them. Daphne Cold Norfolk where the snow is almost gone. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Milanese Lace Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:15:48 + Hi Sue et al, I am always amazed by the prices paid for Newnham bobbin winders! I use those as my 'yardstick' of how silly the bidders are as to price, as the winders can be purchased at general suppliers for between £19.00 and £21.00 - and yet people will pay three times that much, plus postage, package and handling, for Newnham bobbin winders on eBay. It always makes me want to contact those bidding, and let them know the names of general suppliers ... Carol - in Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: [lace] Milanese Lace£36 for a Milanese book that is available for sale at less than that price, brand new. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace
Sue wrote: Just looking at Ebay and cannot understand why someone would want to pay £36 for a Milanese book that is available for sale at less than that price, brand new. Either the person bidding is desparate for the hard-back edition, which is difficult to find - the current one on sale you refer to is paper-back - or it's a case of not thinking or knowing where to research, as must have been the case with the two Springett bobbins that went for silly prices recently. Some people only want hard-back books. I prefer to buy a second-hand hard-back to a new paper-back if possible, but not at an inflated price. Incidentally, not only do Roseground sell the Celtic Swirl bobbin recently on ebay, but I just noticed I currently have it on my pllow. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace
Just looking at Ebay and cannot understand why someone would want to pay £36 for a Milanese book that is available for sale at less than that price, brand new. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 19/03/2008 09:54 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese lace for sale on Ebay
Yummy! I wish I had $13,000 to spare :-) Helene the froggy from Melbourne Lynn wrote: Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000 US. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so. Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace on ebay
Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000 US. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so. Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Milanese Lace on ebay
Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000 US. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so. Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia === Hi Lynn, Yes, Milanese can be quite complex. I have serious doubts that this is 1640 Milanese. The double bar brides bother me; when I see them, I always thinks later Flemish. The complete symmetry of the design. The large single piece. Most of the larger items of lace from the period are more likely to have been piece together and built up in layers, so to speak. I find that the oldest laces have quality of spontaneity that later laces gave up for exquisiteness and order. These are fairly flimsy points to hang an objection on, but it just doesn't feel right. My gut reaction is 19th century revival. But everyone has an opionion, don't they??? LOL Patty Dowden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] Milanese lace on ebay
Hi everyone and Lynn, Thanks for the link to the Milanese lace of antiquity! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V The description by the lace evaluator is excellent, but for that money I'd like a bit more provenance. I note the seller prefers Paypal and will mail the thing for $9.75 - a pedestrian amount compared to the opening bid Interesting to see a rate of $10.00 per square inch, new commission value. this would be why the item is priced the way it is. At an inch an hour, working 8-hour days, a person would be busy for about 8 months on this thing. Is it worth it? (and would the lacemaker get benefits?) ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (on a pretty spring day on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace on ebay
At 04:17 AM 5/17/2005, you wrote: Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000 US. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so. Don't give up, Lynn. Milanese is not harder. It just uses a different approach and working routine. To some people, Bedfordshire is near impossible with the leaves and the adding/removing of many pairs. Milanese tape patterns can be either very simple or very elaborate. The same can be said of Bedfordshire and Honiton. When learning a lace style, you start with the basics and work up to the fancier techniques. Take a look at Louise Colgan's Milanese in Color patterns. The heart pattern is not intimidating. Anyway.as to the piece of Milanese on eBay, I think I tend to agree with Patty rather than the statements on the listing. They say the comments came from a lace appraiser, but not who this person is or the background/training of the person, The reference books are the same ones I have. I'm still learning, so could be very wrong with my impressions. Just because a piece does not have a mesh background, does not mean that it is early 17th century. V A museum has a large piece dated 3rd quarter that has no brides at all. See fig. 200 in Levy's book. Also, there is no way to prove that only one person made this piece. The large flower head (cabbage rose type thing) was made separately and fastened in when the leaf/stem trail came past it. These could easily have been made by different people. Sections could have been done by different people and put together when the connecting motif was reached. The separate fillings in the middle of the tulip-like flower could have been done by a different person. The project could have been mounted on a main pillow and worked on in sequence by a whole crew of lacemakers. (It has been documented that rush orders were sometimes worked on round the clock by multiple lacemakers in rotation.) I would more easily believe the revival lace timeline than the early date listed. I could be wrong -- have been before --- and will again in the future, I'm sure. G The beginning bid price is extremely high. I would be surprised if they sold it. As to the commission price comment, I guess that explains how they set their price because there would be 1296 square inches in it, though I don't know where the extra $29 fits in -- perhaps that's that cost of posting this item. G By the way -- if anyone is interested in a nice needle lace tablecloth that's 172 inches long by 68 inches wide, there's one listed on eBay under either needlelace or needle lace (or just search the number 172). It would fit a 12 foot table most nicely. Perhaps a wedding caterer could put it to good use. Alice in Oregon -- where I'd better get my shopping done because a big storm is supposed to start later today. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD
OK, what am I doing wrong?? Help, please I clicked on the link and got a We're sorry, but we can't find the HomePage you've requested. It's possible that: ... (blah, blah) I did a google and found Barbara's withof photos but no link back to her homepage and no hummingbird :( And then to read that Jean got to see the picture! what else can I do to locate the raskally photo! feeling very isolated ;-) Jennifer in Brisbane, Au -- Here's my class project: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird.jpg Not bad for a first attempt! Barbara Joyce --- He is lovely, (in those colours I think it is a 'He') Well done. To tackle Milanese and colour together for a first attempt is very brave. best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD
Sorry everyone. Barbara's next mail shows the link without the .jpg extension and I have managed to see the lovely hummingbird. It makes one want to have a go. Maybe I should get the DVD too :) a very happy Jennifer in Brisbane, Au - Original Message - OK, what am I doing wrong?? Help, please I clicked on the link and got a We're sorry, but we can't find the HomePage you've requested. It's possible that: ... (blah, blah) I did a google and found Barbara's withof photos but no link back to her homepage and no hummingbird :( And then to read that Jean got to see the picture! what else can I do to locate the raskally photo! feeling very isolated ;-) Jennifer in Brisbane, Au - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD
Hi Barbara, He is lovely, (in those colours I think it is a 'He') Well done. To tackle Milanese and colour together for a first attempt is very brave. Now where can I get that Video? best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 9 Jan 2005, at 18:26, Barbara Joyce wrote: I wanted to share my enthusiasm for Louise Colgan's new production on Milanese Lace (also available on VHS tape). All one needs to be successful in this class is a basic knowledge of cloth stitch. Absolutely every step and detail of the procedures are demonstrated and clearly shown. I consider myself an intermediate lacemaker, but there were several basic lacemaking techniques that were so beautifully demonstrated, that I learned a great deal about bobbin lace techniques in general. I'd never done any Milanese lace, so the beautiful braids and ways to manipulate the colors to get them where you want them were fascinating to me. The best part is that one can be almost guaranteed success by following along. And of course, you can stop, rewind, replay, etc., until you know exactly what you're doing, then stop the program while you do it. It's like having your own private teacher, with infinite patience to demonstrate something over and over, until you get it. :-) Here's my class project: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird.jpg Not bad for a first attempt! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Milanese Lace DVD
Hi Jean, remember if you are looking to get an American DVD or video there are compatability issues - we can be different regions for DVD and different formats for video jenny barron very windy Scotland Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barbara, He is lovely, (in those colours I think it is a 'He') Well done. To tackle Milanese and colour together for a first attempt is very brave. Now where can I get that Video? best Wishes, Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace URL Update
It occurred to me that the scan for my Milanese hummingbird should give credit to Hensel Productions and Louise Colgan, so I've updated the site, and it now has a different URL: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird/ Thanks, Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace DVD
I wanted to share my enthusiasm for Louise Colgan's new production on Milanese Lace (also available on VHS tape). All one needs to be successful in this class is a basic knowledge of cloth stitch. Absolutely every step and detail of the procedures are demonstrated and clearly shown. I consider myself an intermediate lacemaker, but there were several basic lacemaking techniques that were so beautifully demonstrated, that I learned a great deal about bobbin lace techniques in general. I'd never done any Milanese lace, so the beautiful braids and ways to manipulate the colors to get them where you want them were fascinating to me. The best part is that one can be almost guaranteed success by following along. And of course, you can stop, rewind, replay, etc., until you know exactly what you're doing, then stop the program while you do it. It's like having your own private teacher, with infinite patience to demonstrate something over and over, until you get it. :-) Here's my class project: http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/hummingbird.jpg Not bad for a first attempt! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace Swan in IOLI
Rolled edges is a technique used in Withof lace, and is beautifully described and diagrammed in Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof's book Dutch Bobbin Lace Patterns. It isn't difficult to do, and to my mind forms a nicer edge than the regular sewing edge. It is done around a motif after the motif is finished. -- Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese Lace Swan in IOLI
I think that this swan mask is just wonderful. But when reading the directions, it says that Edges are rolled at the same time as the braids are made What and how are rolled edges. Does it mean that a thread is twisted around the wire on the edge to hide the wire? Can someone advise me? Thanks Diane Z Lubec, Maine - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Milanese lace - An Introduction
I have found the book Milaca Lace - An Introduction by Patricia Read and Lucy Kincaid for 8 pounds and 50 pence. Of course there would be postage as well, if you want to know where to get this book please contact me privately. Jean in Newbury UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
