Re: [lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Diana Smith
But why would it be just a surname? This is not normal on old bobbins - 
christian or full names yes but not a surname alone.
Unless it is someone famous - I have one inscribed Gladston (sic) after the 
19th century English Prime Minister. A quick search in one of my bobbin 
databases (of 640 names only) I found the ones below - some from my own 
collection, others found.


ALMA-The battle for the River Alma
ARCHER- ?
HIGGINS-  ?
MASON- Trade bobbin.
PRINCE- Royal title or maybe a horse!!
RECKLES-Trade bobbin
WAINRIGHT - Henry Wainright who committed a rather gruesome murder in 
the east end of London.

LESTER-Trade bobbin

Diana in Northamptonshire

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[lace] Re: "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Tatman
On 1/14/11 3:23 AM, "laceandb...@aol.com"  wrote:
>  I have this all the time as my surname is
> Tinch - quite unusual.  It gets written as Linch, Pinch or Finch.  NO, T
> for 
> Tango.

My surname isn't unusual like yours, but almost ALWAYS misspelled and I have
to correct.  These are the variations:

MAYERS
MYARS
MAIERS
MYERS
MYER
Meir
Meires
Meirs
Meyar
Meyars
Meye
Meyer
Meyers
Meyr
Meyrs
Meyre
Meyres
Mayer
Mayers
Mayrs
Meijer
Meijers
Meijeres



-- 
Mark MYERS, aka Tatman
In frigid cold Greenville, IL USA

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Re: [lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Malvary J Cole
"Jacquie wrote:  If the person registering the event couldn't read, they 
weren't in a position to say.  I have this all the time as my surname is 
Tinch - quite unusual.  It gets written as Linch, Pinch or Finch.  NO, T 
for Tango."


And, in researching our family tree (Jacquie's and mine) our name of Cole 
has been Cole (gr-grandfather), Coles (gr-gr-gandfather), Coals 
(gr-gr-gr-grandfather) and that name is fairly easy.


Malvary (sister to Jacquie) in Ottawa, Canada where the sun is shining 
(-14C, but the sun IS shining) - snow forecast for tomorrow. 


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Re: [lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Sue Duckles
The international phonetic alphabet was not standardised until 1956  
throughout the world.  Before that time it depended on who was  
speaking, where they came from and where they learned the alphabet!!   
The British Royal Navy had one, a different one for the Army in the  
first world war, American military was different again... etc  In  
fact I can remember in the '60's in the UK, the international  
operators used major cities worldwide as a phonetic code...  although  
the code wasn't in use until the early days of Marconi after all,  
he made the first international radio transmission from Poldhu Point  
in Cornwall to St John's Bay, Newfoundland!


There you are  a little bit of useless history!!

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 14 Jan 2011, at 09:23, laceandb...@aol.com wrote:


 I have this all the time as my surname is
Tinch - quite unusual.  It gets written as Linch, Pinch or Finch.   
NO, T for

Tango.


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Re: [lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Sue
Family history research has also led us to hunt out many versions of the 
same sound but different spellings, if you have someone who cannot read or 
write they have no idea how its spelled and also taking accents into account 
it must be quite hard.   Our name gets written with an i, or an a rather 
than u in it so these things can happen easily.
I have a bobbin my sister decorated for me several years ago with info about 
my parents, the one for my dad has musical notes on, as he had a band, the 
one for my Mum has 6 initials on it, one for each of her 6 children.  I 
wonder if there will be a Jeri in the future wondering what it might mean, 
.



Just to point out that Hide isn't really a mis-spelling of Hyde, it's a
phonetic spelling.

When it is possible that neither the bobbin maker or lacemaker would have
reached 21st century requirements for literacy (and let's face it, that 
level

isn't very high) then Hide is perfectly acceptable.

Even in the Parish records, where would assume the parish clerk would most
likely be fairly well educated, the spellings change according to what the
name was heard as.  If the person registering the event couldn't read, 
they

weren't in a position to say.  I have this all the time as my surname is
Tinch - quite unusual.  It gets written as Linch, Pinch or Finch.  NO, 
T for

Tango.

Jacquie in Licolnshire


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Re: [lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-14 Thread Laceandbits
Just to point out that Hide isn't really a mis-spelling of Hyde, it's a 
phonetic spelling.  

When it is possible that neither the bobbin maker or lacemaker would have 
reached 21st century requirements for literacy (and let's face it, that level 
isn't very high) then Hide is perfectly acceptable.

Even in the Parish records, where would assume the parish clerk would most 
likely be fairly well educated, the spellings change according to what the 
name was heard as.  If the person registering the event couldn't read, they 
weren't in a position to say.  I have this all the time as my surname is 
Tinch - quite unusual.  It gets written as Linch, Pinch or Finch.  NO, T 
for 
Tango.

Jacquie in Licolnshire

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[lace] Re "Hide" some feeback

2011-01-13 Thread Brian Lemin
Firstly... thank you.

Miss-spellings I really feel for. Even with a spellchecker I make hideous
spelling mistakes!  So HIDE=HYDE?   OK lets move on.

I am beginning to get hooked on this "ancestry" thing.  A few good folks have
sent me some good stuff on names.  I love it... thank you

I love the idea of a cryptic H...ID...E...  That really sets my
imagination going!  Somehow I doubt it.  What a shame!

The suggestion that really gets me going is..

"HIDE" is the first bobbin, and out there somewhere is a bobbin that is
inscribed "and SEEK".  I just love that persons imagination  Special putty
medal for the first person to find a bobbin inscribed "and SEEK"!  I think I
am safe!

You are a great bunch of folks and you give me such help and such joy that you
even bother with my crazy notions!  I rarely communicate to "lace" without a
smile on my face!.


Unless I hear otherwise I am going to give the medal to.wait while I
open the envelope.  *HIDE is a miss spelling of HYDE.*  That in itself raises
a few issues.

To be honest... so many of the problems we have with bobbin history would be
solved if we lived in that community and at that time.  But it is fun working
on it.. don't you think?

Excuse me while I work on my TARDIS.

Thanks again

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