Re: [lace] Re: Saba lace?
On Jun 26, 2008, at 23:32, Laurie Waters wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess if this ebay item 250262902713 is Saba lace? I would agree with Tamara. The star motif is not representative of Saba lace, and I have not seen any Saba lace that incorporates the lace "ground" as shown in the eBay item. Although I'm certainly not an authority on Saba lace, I have the same book that Tamara mentioned, and I've been to Saba twice, once to attend the lace group's meeting, and a second time to teach bobbin lace. Warm wishes, Sharon Broughton From Carlsbad, California, where it is sunny and warm (as usual). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Saba lace?
On Jun 26, 2008, at 23:32, Laurie Waters wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess if this ebay item 250262902713 is Saba lace? Could be. The ground stitch (near the hem and surrounding the "star around a circle" elements in the centre) seems -- as far as I can tell from the photo -- to be identical with what's identified as "The First Pattern" (as made by Laurie Hassell) in my little book on Saba lace. OTOH, the few pictures of finished items which appear in the book seem to point to a tendency of having lace inserted into a bigger body of fabric, while this piece is the other way around -- lots of openwork with just a few bits of solid fabric. Also, the "star around a circle" elements themselves don't look like any pictured in the book but it's really hard to tell for certain. Since all I "know"about Saba lace (or any needle-made lace, for that matter) is close to zero, I can't *tell*; all I can do is toss out a few idas for consideration. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Saba Lace
I think PieceWork had a short article about Saba lace a while ago, but I don't recall very many photos or close-ups of the work. The photos that Lacefairy has on her site really look like Teneriffe. http://lace.lacefairy.com/ID/Saba.html If I were to hazard a guess at identifying Saba lace, I would say that the drawnwork looks like a hybrid of Teneriffe/Sol/Nanduti and Mexican drawnwork. Saba lace doesn't have the separately worked medallions that are characteristic of a lot of Nanduti lace. It seems to be worked more in bands like Mexican drawnwork but the bands are not as wide and elaborate as what I've seen in Mexican work. As for the stitches, one would expect overlap--there's a limit to the number of ways one can wrap threads or needle-weave fillings. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm only going by the photos on one site. I just found some photos on the Saba tourism site. Saba lace seems to be mainly used for inserts and edgings. http://www.sabatourism.com/lacesamples2.html Of course, that may reflect current fashion (lace collars aren't in style), but it does appear that Nanduti/Teneriffe has more examples where the entire fabric is made of lace, by whipping medallions together and working fillings in the spaces. Teneriffe/Sol/Nanduti laces are worked on spokes formed by winding thread around a stitched circle or around pins. Saba may be true drawnwork (worked only on threads left after drawing out grounds threads, but I somehow doubt it. Otherwise, you wouldn't see so many examples of white on colour. I hope this makes sense. I'm trying to do this at work and the Web interface isn't great. Avital > On Jun 11, 2007, at 17:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Maybe there is an Arachne who can help answer the following > inquiry > > that > > Lacefairy received? She asked me to send to Arachne, for > assistance. > > Jeri Ames > > in Maine USA > > -- > > "Can you tell me how I am able to identify Saba lacework from > others? > > Are > > there certain styles that were only used by Sabans or only > certain > > materials > > or shapes/items?" > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Saba Lace
On Jun 11, 2007, at 17:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe there is an Arachne who can help answer the following inquiry that Lacefairy received? She asked me to send to Arachne, for assistance. Jeri Ames in Maine USA -- "Can you tell me how I am able to identify Saba lacework from others? Are there certain styles that were only used by Sabans or only certain materials or shapes/items?" There is a (little) book... :) "The Fruit of Her Hands; Saba Lace, History and Patterns"; Eric A. Eliason; 1997; ISBN 99904-0-193-4. The publisher is: Saba Foundation for Arts; Saba, The Netherland Antilles. The author claims that some of the patterns and/or pattern elements *are* strictly Saban but he's not a lacemaker himself and I don't know enough about needle-made lace/drawn work to either confirtm or dispute the claim. The author -- "Eric A. Eliason is assistant professor of folklore in the English Department at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah -- can be googled. He seems to have lost all interest in lacemaking -- the entries talk about him teaching Mormon lit -- but, perhaps, he could be contacted and, maybe, there are copies of the book still available? Someone who actually does make this kind of lace might be able to see what's the same and what's different about it. I'm not parting with my copy of the book, because, even though my interest in NL is minimal, this was a Christmas gift from my stepson... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
