Re: [lace] Re: Waxing thread for bobbin lace
In a message dated 7/31/2005 2:05:31 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We were told to bring #5 pencil. WalMart has never heard of it and, truth to tell, I heven't seen one since I left Poland (1972), so I didn't have one. Deb Bender (the organiser of the workshop) had supplied a box of them, for all other lame ducks like myself, but I never got to use it. By the time I got past the stitch-counting stage and to the free-drawn design, it was quite evident (from the speedier learners' efforts) that a pencil that hard may keep its point very well, but doesn't leave a very visible line behind it... Unless I'm mistaken, the handsewing reading I've done suggested using a soft-lead pencil, and that's what I have used. I would have a hard time seeing a hard pencil line on fabric, especially after spending a lot of time working with it, as the lines begin to rub away. Soft pencil lines do smudge sometimes, which is annoying, so maybe I'd be better off using a harder lead, although t does seem to wash out all right, so far...But now you've got me wondering. Ricki Utah USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Waxing thread for bobbin lace
On 31 Jul 2005, at 02:00, Tamara P Duvall wrote: We were told to bring #5 pencil. WalMart has never heard of it and, truth to tell, I heven't seen one since I left Poland (1972), so I didn't have one. Deb Bender (the organiser of the workshop) had supplied a box of them, for all other lame ducks like myself, but I never got to use it. By the time I got past the stitch-counting stage and to the free-drawn design, it was quite evident (from the speedier learners' efforts) that a pencil that hard may keep its point very well, but doesn't leave a very visible line behind it... What's a #5 pencil? In UK our pencils are graded from 9B, 8B..B, HB, H, 2H...9H with the B grades being progressively softer and blacker whilst the H grades are harder and less dark. The H grades are used mostly for technical drawings whist the B grades are used by artists. HB is the bog-standard writing pencil. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Waxing thread for bobbin lace
if you want to have colored linen thread, wrap it around a thin roll of padding wrapped in cloth and put it in a dye bath. once it is dyed then you can just let it dry and wind it on the bobbins. --- Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love making BL with linen and would probably do it more often if it could be had fine and in colours; as it is, I don't do it very often, but, once in a while, I get a craving that won't be denied :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Waxing thread for bobbin lace
On Jul 30, 2005, at 10:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie) wrote: As I write this, I am wondering what Tamara and others were using to draw their designs on the tulle (net?) for tambouring, We were told to bring #5 pencil. WalMart has never heard of it and, truth to tell, I heven't seen one since I left Poland (1972), so I didn't have one. Deb Bender (the organiser of the workshop) had supplied a box of them, for all other lame ducks like myself, but I never got to use it. By the time I got past the stitch-counting stage and to the free-drawn design, it was quite evident (from the speedier learners' efforts) that a pencil that hard may keep its point very well, but doesn't leave a very visible line behind it... So, Greet reached into her capacious bag of tricks, and - hocus-pocus - pulled out one of those blue, disappearing pens... They now make them with very fine points she said, and that's what people used. She told us that, when we finished stitching and before we took the tulle off the frame, we should take a shower-head and run water through the whole lot until all the blue marks disappeared and went down the drain, instead of spreading through the embroidery. That was on the second day of class and the same day, after classs, Robin and her friend and I went to an arts/crafts store (can't remember the name - Moore? - but very much like Michaels), where I supplied myself with one (and a #5 pencil just for the heck of it g And several spools of DMC tatting 80, which I remembered from Brenda's book as being more or less the same size as 30/2 cotton). Which is what I used on the third and last day. I have no idea how well the marks will disappear or whether they'll reccur 20 yrs down the road. But since I don't expect to - ever - produce a masterpiece heirloom, I'm not worried :) And thanks, Jacquie, for the upside down tip for straightening the bobbins on a dumped pillow... I've never heard of it any more than I heard of threading the needle off the spool end. But, while I've been threading the needle that way without knowing (seemed natural g), it would have never occured to me to just tip a pillow upside down in a situation like that... So far, I've never had an accident like that... Wonder If I'll still remember when the time comes g On Jul 30, 2005, at 18:47, Brenda Paternoster wrote: but how often does one thread linen into a needle nowadays? Up to 96 times (48 pairs) per project, before I discovered Brugge tie-off last October... That was one reason why I didn't hate the het lassen (the overlapping of the first and last part and sewing them together) as I might have otherwise g I love making BL with linen, and would probably do it more often if it could be had fine and in colours; as it is, I don't do it very often, but, once in a while, I get a craving that won't be denied :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: waxing thread for bobbin lace
Jeri, your information shared is most wonderful! I am always learning something from your messages. Thank you for all the time you take to share your knowledge with us. Jane O IL. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take time to laugh, it is the music of the soul - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: waxing thread for bobbin lace
On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:42, susan wrote: i was reading up on handspun sewing thread and it suggests to run it through bees wax before they start their sewing. does any one think it would have a bad affect to run the lace thread through the wax? it might stop the unwinding and unrolling of the thread. I would think waxing the BL-ing thread would have the opposite effect; since it makes the thread stiffer and slicker, it would hold the hitch less securely, no? You wax the thread for hand sewing to strengthen it, and to make it glide better through the fabric. But in BL, the thread is going through a totally different set of challenges - it doesn't have to go in and out of fabric countless times, rubbing against it, and getting fuzzy and weak in the proccess. In BL that doesn't happen, unless you do a lot of retro-lacing. And I agree with Orla - the less goop the better :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: waxing thread for bobbin lace
that would probably work like you said, but i will try it for one project and see how bad it does. it isn't the problem with it slipping out of stitch while the piece is still being worked. it is the loosening of the stitches once the wax has faded that i am worried about. once the lace is washed a few times and the thread becomes thinner, it will slip a little. this would defintely mess up a picot. --- Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:42, susan wrote: i was reading up on handspun sewing thread and it suggests to run it through bees wax before they start their sewing. does any one think it would have a bad affect to run the lace thread through the wax? it might stop the unwinding and unrolling of the thread. I would think waxing the BL-ing thread would have the opposite effect; since it makes the thread stiffer and slicker, it would hold the hitch less securely, no? You wax the thread for hand sewing to strengthen it, and to make it glide better through the fabric. But in BL, the thread is going through a totally different set of challenges - it doesn't have to go in and out of fabric countless times, rubbing against it, and getting fuzzy and weak in the proccess. In BL that doesn't happen, unless you do a lot of retro-lacing. And I agree with Orla - the less goop the better :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
