Re: [lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-13 Thread Dmt11home
Nine jabots is an awful lot of jabots. Maybe we could limit the honor to 
female Supreme Court Judges. This would keep it to a much more manageable number, 
she said cynically. I can see it now: The International Old Lacers salutes the 
Judicial System in a ribbon across the special commemorative issue of the  
Bulletin of the International Old Lacers . In addition to coverage of the 
presentation cermonies we could have an interview with Judge Judy and a gallery of 
international judges in their favorite laces.
Devon

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[lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
Hello all,
Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on
attorneys or judges dress.
Sure I did not express myself appropriate and my question did not make
sense for you, so I had no reply. My nears say that I am obstinate, so I
am here again asking you:
Does it exists the tradition to sew a lace application on the border of
sleeves of judges dress?
Here in Spain has remained the tradition and I have upload a picture on 
the page:
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/punetas.html

I would like to hear from you, as I am curious if this tradition only 
survive in Spain or in other parts of the world too.

Kind regards.
Carolina. Barcelona. Spain
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http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/
Private apartments for rent in Spanish Coast
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[lace] Laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Tregellas Family
Hello Carolina,

At 11:54 AM 12-07-04 +0200, you wrote:

Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on
attorneys or judges dress.  snip

Here in Australia it is customary for the Lord Mayor of a city to
wear a cravat, many of which are hand made and some made of lace.  Here in
South Australia the Lord Mayor of Adelaide has handmade lace on his costume
and also the Lord Mayor of Murray Bridge, which is a city about one and half
hours drive to the East.   Also the Lord Mayor of Strathalbyn I think as well.

Thank you for sending the web page address where we could see the lace.

Regards,
Shirley T.  -  Adelaide, South Australia where we are enjoying lots of rain
(which we need) but its not yet frosty at night.

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Re: [lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Laceandbits
I don't think Judges here in England have lace on their robes, but may be 
wrong on this.  

Not quite the same thing but the Speaker of the House of Commons has a 
Honiton jabot and cuffs, made by Pat Perryman.  And several mayors (I wonder if 
there is a list of them anywhere) have jabots or whatever to wear with their most 
formal regalia, usually made by the local lace groups.  There have been 
articles about some of these in Lace over the years.  I wonder how they are 
surviving now; it must be worrying making a handmade, high maintenance accessory 
unless you are fairly confident the care will be available to look after it, 
through frequent changes in custodianship.

Jacquie

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RE: [lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Carolyn Hastings
Hello,

I've never seen or heard of it in the US, and not for cravats for
political office holders, either.  A very nice tradition, I loved the
lace on the Spanish judge's sleeves.

Carolyn

Carolyn Hastings
Stow, MA USA


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 Hello all,
 Some weeks ago, I put a question about which was the use of lace on
 attorneys or judges dress.
 Sure I did not express myself appropriate and my question did not make
 sense for you, so I had no reply. My nears say that I am obstinate, so
I
 am here again asking you:
 Does it exists the tradition to sew a lace application on the border
of
 sleeves of judges dress?
 Here in Spain has remained the tradition and I have upload a picture
on
 the page:
 http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/punetas.html
 
 I would like to hear from you, as I am curious if this tradition only
 survive in Spain or in other parts of the world too.
 
 Kind regards.
 
 Carolina. Barcelona. Spain
 
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 Carolina de la Guardia
 http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/
 
 Private apartments for rent in Spanish Coast
 http://www.winterinspain.com
 
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[lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Dmt11home
Judicial attire in the US is very boring possibly reflecting our 
anti-aristocratical dogma and a perception that lace is soft and pretty and weak and 
that 
it ill-suits people who have the power and authority to sentence others to 
death or a life-time in jail. However, I have noted that Judge Judy, supposedly a 
real life judge, who presides over a television court room where people 
submit their disputes for reasons that elude me, seems to wear a diminutive lace 
collar over her robe. I don't know whether this is to distinguish TV judging 
from other judging or whether this is an affectation that some women judges 
adopt. The lace collar in question is very mundane, even severe, as is Judge Judy, 
and does little to advance the appreciation of lace.

Devon
cursed by living in a country with no good pageantry

PS I attended the Burr-Hamilton duel re-enactment in Weehawken over the 
weekend. It was hard to see, but both duelers seemed to be sporting frilly neckwear.

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Re: [lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Linda Walton
Here is a picture of Lord Denning, (from a book cover, I think), showing him
in his robes as a Law Lord.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0406176086.02.LZZZ.jpg

He became Master of the Rolls, the most senior judge in England, but I think
his outfit is typical of a High court Judge.

Linda Walton,
(High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
where I think our Mayor has a jabot of locally-made Bucks point lace).

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re:[lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Bev Walker
Hello everyone and in answer to Carolina's question
In Canada the highest justices wear black silk robes and a white silk
scarf thing, like a jabot but plain, around the neck (I think they have
the white jabot, but maybe not - haven't seen one lately - I know they
don't wear wigs). For special
occasions they have red robes with white Cdn.
mink fur trim at the neck and shoulders - no lace.
Thank you for sharing the photo of the Spanish attorney and the most
distinguished-looking use of Torchon that I've seen yet.

bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread nerakmacd
Lovely.   In my opinion, the Brits have always dressed up their officials
nicely.  No one that I've ever seen has come close to my favourite, Queen
Elizabeth I.  Imagine being charged with making lace for her, and caring for
it!  That would have been hard, and most likely by candlelight too, and paid
a pittance!  But boy, it was lovely.

Karen
Ontario, Canada

 Here is a picture of Lord Denning, (from a book cover, I think), showing
him
 in his robes as a Law Lord.

 http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0406176086.02.LZZZ.jpg

 He became Master of the Rolls, the most senior judge in England, but I
think
 his outfit is typical of a High court Judge.

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[lace] laces used by judges

2004-07-12 Thread Janice Blair
I am sure you will get several replies from the U.S.  There is a court tv program over 
here for small claims and Judge Judy wears lace collars on her black gowns.  I don't 
think there is any tradition with this, maybe her attempt at staying feminine.  BTW, 
she stands no messing in her court and tells the plaintives and defendants to behave 
correctly.
Janice


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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