Re: [lace-chat] 10 Public Servants

2003-08-02 Thread Clay Blackwell
The interesting thing about all of that is that it actually
makes financial sense for the companies.  There are a number
of advantages...

1.  The consultants usually don't get benefits,  which add
up to an enormous part of most regular compensation budgets.

2.  The consultants don't have any recourse in case of
layoff...  no severance, to "golden parachutes", also an
expensive part of the compensation budget in a company.  If
the company suddenly hits a rough patch, the consultants can
be let go quickly and with no fanfare - and then hired back
just as fast.

3.  In some companies, consultants are paid through a
totally different budget, which makes it possible for the
companies to be more creative in terms of writing off the
expenses/billing the client/hiding the expenses...  IOW,
doing what they want with the expense item.

The same thing goes on here in the US - My BIL was an
Nuclear Engineer who worked as a consultant (with numerous
clients) after he was let go.

Clay

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> The last verse of David's rhyme:
>
> The last Public Servant agreed to relocate,
> Replaced by 10 consultants at twice the hourly rate.
>
> is similar, yet quite different, to what happened to my
younger brother.
>
> He worked for BP oil as an executive engineer, on a very
nice salary, thank
> you very much, along with a whole bunch of others. Then
there were
> redundancies over several years, and then my brother's
turn came. He got his
> lump sum and pension at the age of 48, set himself up as a
consultant and
> registered with an agency. He was immediately employed by
BP at three times
> what they were paying him while he was one of their
employees. That was 10
> years ago and he's still being employed by BP as a
consultant.
>
> He's one of those people for whom everything turns out
more than better than
> it was before.
>
> Jean in Poole
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[lace-chat] 10 Public Servants

2003-08-02 Thread Jean Nathan
The last verse of David's rhyme:

The last Public Servant agreed to relocate,
Replaced by 10 consultants at twice the hourly rate.

is similar, yet quite different, to what happened to my younger brother.

He worked for BP oil as an executive engineer, on a very nice salary, thank
you very much, along with a whole bunch of others. Then there were
redundancies over several years, and then my brother's turn came. He got his
lump sum and pension at the age of 48, set himself up as a consultant and
registered with an agency. He was immediately employed by BP at three times
what they were paying him while he was one of their employees. That was 10
years ago and he's still being employed by BP as a consultant.

He's one of those people for whom everything turns out more than better than
it was before.

Jean in Poole
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Re: [lace-chat] lace funny...

2003-08-02 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Liz !

Thank you SO much for straightening me out before I made a
complete idiot of myself in public (like Arachne isn't
"public"...)  But I only heard a tiny bit of what he was
saying, and that's what I got out of it...  Goes to show!

I'm awfully glad I haven't used that expression out loud
anywhere (raging blush!)

Clay

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From: "Liz Beecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Clay Blackwell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Arachne
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [lace-chat] lace funny...


> Clay,
>
> sorry to upset you on this but bling bling means expensive
and over the top.
> If you wear all your expsenive jewllery at once and then
some you are bling
> bling.
>
> Of if you put on all your designer labels at once and your
jewllery then you
> are bling bling.
>
> Of course - this would require you to have more than one
deigner label or
> piece of jewllery to wear.
>
> It started off as meaning expensive and good taste now it
is tacky in such
> as Oh, you've got a diamond the size of a small african
state which would
> feed a major 3rd world country - that's so bling bling.
>
> Jennifer Lopez is often refered to as bling bling and here
in the UK Posh
> and Becks are bling bling - I've just had a word with Joe,
who I work with
> and who knows (he's a DJ and very hip) and he said it's
just simply that
> bling bling proves that money can't buy taste.
>
> However, there is always an exception to the rule in that
in some people
> they are post ironic bling bling - in that they dress
bling bling but that
> they are actually taking the mickey out of it.
>
> Ok, so you are all now confused.
>
> Regards
>
> Liz Beecher
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 August 2003 15:27
> To: Arachne chat
> Subject: [lace-chat] lace funny...
>
>
> The other evening as I passed through the family room, I
> caught a tidbit from the late-night show my DH was
watching.
> A very successful entertainer was explaining the
expression,
> "Bling Bling", which is apparently something he say a lot
or
> which appears in his music.  I've heard young people say
> "bling bling", and think it's a catchy phrase!  According
to
> the entertainer, it means expensive, beautiful, highly
> desirable...
>
> I just read something on the lace list from Sulochona
about
> what she is BLing now... and thought of the slang
> expression!!  How absolutely appropriate!!  Yes, our lace
is
> bling bling!
>
> Clay
>
> Clay Blackwell
> Lynchburg, VA
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RE: [lace-chat] lace funny...

2003-08-02 Thread Liz Beecher
Clay,

Ah, but I have the advantage of having a hip and trendy DJ only feet from me
whilst on night shift who is up on all these words.

I only recognised it as there has been an awful lot on tv over here in the
UK about bling bling and how there are two main types who do it.  Those who
have more money than breeding and those who have breeding but no money.

The former are, as our Joe put it, those who go to show money can't buy
taste - they become famous and have lots of money and spend it on rolls
royces and big houses with too many greek statues in them.

The later are those who live off their family name schmoozing freebies out
of major designers and will wear everything that they have been offered
rather than what looks good.

I'm not sure if you get AbFab where you are but in an episode of the lastest
series Eddie wears every designer name outfit at once and all her designer
name jewllery.  She very proudly says that she is 'bling bling' and her
daughter just snorts.

Eddie thinks that bling bling is something to be aimed for, Saffie thinks
its something that should be locked away for safety.

Joe, our DJ also said that there are post ironic bling bling people like
Justin Timberlake who has got both ears pierced and wears small $70,000
diamon earrings in each ear.  He is saying that he is emulating bling bling
but doing it with taste.

OK - so doing it with taste is sort of about face on it as the whole thing
about bling bling is that it is without taste - but that is why it is post
ironic.

So, you can use the phrase bling bling about lace but you would use it about
a lace piece of gawdy lace that someone had bought and used wrong - for
example, if a wedding vale looked like a piece of net curtain then you could
say, when asked if you liked it 'that's very bling bling' and be both ironic
and hip.

Personally, I'd just for normal lace use words like 'wow', 'corr' and 'what
an unusually choice of colours and motif - I never would have thought of
that (whilst thinking 'I never would have done that')'.

So, any more hip phrases you want translated then get them in this week as
I'm changing jobs and will not have daily access to our Joe.

Regards

Liz Beecher

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From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 August 2003 00:22
To: Liz Beecher; Arachne chat
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] lace funny...


Hi Liz !

Thank you SO much for straightening me out before I made a
complete idiot of myself in public (like Arachne isn't
"public"...)  But I only heard a tiny bit of what he was
saying, and that's what I got out of it...  Goes to show!

I'm awfully glad I haven't used that expression out loud
anywhere (raging blush!)

Clay

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From: "Liz Beecher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Clay Blackwell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Arachne
chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [lace-chat] lace funny...


> Clay,
>
> sorry to upset you on this but bling bling means expensive
and over the top.
> If you wear all your expsenive jewllery at once and then
some you are bling
> bling.
>
> Of if you put on all your designer labels at once and your
jewllery then you
> are bling bling.
>
> Of course - this would require you to have more than one
deigner label or
> piece of jewllery to wear.
>
> It started off as meaning expensive and good taste now it
is tacky in such
> as Oh, you've got a diamond the size of a small african
state which would
> feed a major 3rd world country - that's so bling bling.
>
> Jennifer Lopez is often refered to as bling bling and here
in the UK Posh
> and Becks are bling bling - I've just had a word with Joe,
who I work with
> and who knows (he's a DJ and very hip) and he said it's
just simply that
> bling bling proves that money can't buy taste.
>
> However, there is always an exception to the rule in that
in some people
> they are post ironic bling bling - in that they dress
bling bling but that
> they are actually taking the mickey out of it.
>
> Ok, so you are all now confused.
>
> Regards
>
> Liz Beecher
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 August 2003 15:27
> To: Arachne chat
> Subject: [lace-chat] lace funny...
>
>
> The other evening as I passed through the family room, I
> caught a tidbit from the late-night show my DH was
watching.
> A very successful entertainer was explaining the
expression,
> "Bling Bling", which is apparently something he say a lot
or
> which appears in his music.  I've heard young people say
> "bling bling", and think it's a catchy phrase!  According
to
> the entertainer, it means expensive, beautiful, highly
> desirable...
>
> I just read something on the lace list from Sulochona
about
> what she is BLing now... and thought of the slang
> expression!!  How absolutely appropriate!!  Yes, our lace
is
> bling bling!
>
> Clay
>
> Clay Blackwell
> Lynchburg, VA
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RE: [lace-chat] lace funny...

2003-08-02 Thread Liz Beecher
Clay,

sorry to upset you on this but bling bling means expensive and over the top.
If you wear all your expsenive jewllery at once and then some you are bling
bling.

Of if you put on all your designer labels at once and your jewllery then you
are bling bling.

Of course - this would require you to have more than one deigner label or
piece of jewllery to wear.

It started off as meaning expensive and good taste now it is tacky in such
as Oh, you've got a diamond the size of a small african state which would
feed a major 3rd world country - that's so bling bling.

Jennifer Lopez is often refered to as bling bling and here in the UK Posh
and Becks are bling bling - I've just had a word with Joe, who I work with
and who knows (he's a DJ and very hip) and he said it's just simply that
bling bling proves that money can't buy taste.

However, there is always an exception to the rule in that in some people
they are post ironic bling bling - in that they dress bling bling but that
they are actually taking the mickey out of it.

Ok, so you are all now confused.

Regards

Liz Beecher

-Original Message-
From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 15:27
To: Arachne chat
Subject: [lace-chat] lace funny...


The other evening as I passed through the family room, I
caught a tidbit from the late-night show my DH was watching.
A very successful entertainer was explaining the expression,
"Bling Bling", which is apparently something he say a lot or
which appears in his music.  I've heard young people say
"bling bling", and think it's a catchy phrase!  According to
the entertainer, it means expensive, beautiful, highly
desirable...

I just read something on the lace list from Sulochona about
what she is BLing now... and thought of the slang
expression!!  How absolutely appropriate!!  Yes, our lace is
bling bling!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA
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Re: [lace-chat] Things We Keep

2003-08-02 Thread Scotlace
David

In the days you are talking about it was not called recycling but "make do 
and ment".
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Re: [lace-chat] Grammar

2003-08-02 Thread Scotlace
Jean

That is very similar to South Wales where they say "Where to are you going?". 
 My favourite, said around '73, '74, '75 in response, I think, to my talking 
about some event I was about to attend:  "Where to is it at then?"  As you can 
see, I have never forgotten it.

Patricia in Wales
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[lace-chat] Failed Audition Letter

2003-08-02 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends,
I have copied below the final draught of the letter which was sent to the 
woman who failed her audition for our Choir. It was a bit different from 
what some of you thought as she was only a "one off" rather than being in a 
group of auditionees.
David in Ballarat
Dear Joan,
Thank you for taking part in our Brahms' Requiem rehearsal on Wednesday 
night last, and for auditioning at the conclusion of the rehearsal.

After some consideration, there was general consensus that, given the 
degree of difficulty of the work, and the unpredictability of the harmonics 
and intervals, that your inclusion in our choir may not be appropriate at 
this time.

We send our best wishes for your continuing involvement and enjoyment of 
the Ballarat U3A choir, which provides many performance opportunities for 
its members, and makes wonderful music for the Ballarat community and beyond.

As Hugh (the conductor) pointed out on Wednesday night, choral singing, 
regardless of with which choir, is a most beneficial activity, and provides 
the singers and the audience with a lasting sense of being a part of
"something very special."
Thank you once again for your interest, and please do keep making music in 
the best choral tradition.
Yours sincerely,
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[lace-chat] 10 Public Servants

2003-08-02 Thread David Collyer
TEN PUBLIC SERVANTS
(A cautionary poem for our times)

Ten Public Servants standing in a line
One of them was downsized
then there were nine.

Nine Public Servants who must negotiate,
One joined the union
then there were eight.

Eight Public Servants thought they were in heaven,
'til one of them was redeployed
then there were seven.

Seven Public Servants, their jobs as safe as bricks,
But one was reclassified
then there were six.

Six Public Servants trying to survive,
One of them was privatised,
then there were five.

Five Public Servants ready to give more,
But one Golden Handshake
reduced them to four.

Four Public Servants full of loyalty,
Their jobs were all advertised
then there were three.

Three Public Servants under review,
One left on secondment
then there were two.

Two Public Servants coping on the run,
One went on stress leave
then there was one.

The last Public Servant agreed to relocate,
Replaced by 10 consultants at twice the hourly rate.

David in Ballarat
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[lace-chat] Things We Keep

2003-08-02 Thread David Collyer
I grew up in the fifties with practical parents -- a Mother, God love her,
who washed aluminum foil after she cooked in it, then reused it. She was
the original recycle queen, before they had a name for it...
A Father who was happier getting old shoes fixed than buying new ones.
Their marriage was good, their dreams focused. Their best friends lived
barely a wave away. I can see them now, Dad in trousers, tee shirt and a
hat and Mom in a house dress, baby in one hand, dishtowel in the other.
It was the time for fixing things -- a curtain rod, the kitchen radio,
screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress. Things we keep.
It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy. All that re-fixing,
reheating, renewing, I wanted just once to be wasteful. Waste meant
affluence. Throwing things away meant you knew there'd always be more.
But then my Mother died, and on that clear summer's night, in the warmth of
the hospital room, I was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes
there isn't any 'more.' Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up
and goes away...never to return.
So...while we have it...it's best we love it.and care for it.and fix
it when it's broken.and heal it when it's sick. This is true.for
marriage.and old cars.and children with bad report cards .and
dogs with bad hips.and aging parents.and grandparents.
We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.
Some things we keep.

Like a best friend that moved away -- or -- a classmate we grew up with.
There are just some things that make life important, like people we know
who are special.and so, we keep them close!
I received this from someone who thought I was a 'keeper'! Then I sent it
to the people I think of in the same way.
Love
David
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[lace-chat] Friar's Balsam

2003-08-02 Thread David Collyer
Dear  Noelene,
Re Friar's Balsam

Highly recommended, but whatever you do, DON'T throw the stuff
out down the kitchen/bathroom sink - when cold, it will block the drains!
It is a healing compound, and was once also used for healing cuts and
wounds.
Quite true. It will heal any small crack or cut overnight - but you'll need 
something between your teeth when you put it on(worse than Metho).
It is also THE best glue for forming a perfect seal for colostomy bags - 
but NEVER get it near the stoma.
David
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[lace-chat] Grammar

2003-08-02 Thread Jean Nathan
This is not so much grammar as a local expression. In Somerset, instead of
saying "Where is it?" or "Where's mum gone?" they say "Where's it to?" and
"Where's mum to?"

When I first heard it I thought they were saying "Where is it going to?",
but they weren't.

Jean in Poole
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