[lace-chat] Re: Red Shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Eva Von Der Bey
 Now my query is this, how many are there of  you out there who have
 NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? 

You can count me for one.
Eva, Haltern, Germany  

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[lace-chat] red shoes poem

2003-12-03 Thread Barbara Stokes
Dear List,
This thread of red shoes reminds me of a shoe poem my husband learnt  as
a child.  All I can remember is:
Black shoes, flat shoes, stamp them on the mat shoes.
That's the sort of shoes they'd  buy!
The young person in the poem wanted some strappy pointed toe shoes etc.
Barbara, Parkes, Australia, Home of the Dish

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Lorri Ferguson
I have never had a pair of red shoes but I did once as a young teen have a 
pair of green sandals with wedge heels.

Can't imagine wearing anything like that today.

Lorri
Graham, WA  USA


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 My 16 year old daughter received her 'first' pay packet last week (has 
 done
 a paper round for a year but it doesn't really count!) and promptly spent
 most of it on a pair of red shoes. Winkle picker, 3 stiletto jobs in 
 bright
 red fabric. A pair of shoes to die for! I tried them on and my Achilles
 tendon screamed no, no!! Now, every woman I have spoken to since says,  I
 had a pair of red shoes. Now my query is this, how many are there of
 you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? I had a pair at 14
 (plus boots which I had to dye black in the end to wear on my motorbike to
 school) and my father was furious when he discovered me limping around in
 the shoes because I couldn't bear to give them up and they were far too
 small!
 I have a photo for posterity (taken with my new digital camera  - cheap 
 from
 Lidl but it's not at all bad for the price) if anyone wants to drool!
 I wish I had legs like hers tho.

 Lynne.

 Lynne Cumming
 Baldock, North Herts, UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Red Shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Sue Babbs
  Now my query is this, how many are there of  you out there who have
  NEVER owned a pair of red shoes? 
 
Apart from some tap shoes when aged about 5, NEVER and no enthusiasm for red at all!
Sue 

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread David Collyer
Lynne,
. Now my query is this, how many are there of
you out there who have NEVER owned a pair of red shoes?
I've still got mine They're lace up ankle high boots
David in Ballarat
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[lace-chat] Secret Pal Thanks

2003-12-03 Thread Margot Walker
We're in the middle of the first snow storm of the season, so the 
arrival of your package has put some sunshine in my life.  Thanks so 
much for the bobbins (you can never have enough) and the tidy for my 
pillow.  The candy is quite tasty and I agree that the tin will be 
perfect for pins.  I always carry a diary in my purse, so that will be 
handy too.  Thanks again and have a merry Xmas and a happy new year.

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Red Shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Linda Walton
Dear Liz, and Lacemakers,

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 Linda,

 It's about Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz - red sparkly shoes, click your
heels three times and say 'there's no place like home', 'there's no place
like home', 'there's no place like home'

 Liz

Many thanks - now I understand.

Here I must admit my cultural backwardness and confess that I've neither
read the book nor seen the film - so I'm always missing references.

The nearest I've ever come is the embarrassing experience -
(toe-curlingly, squirmingly, excrutiatingly embarrassing experience)
- of watching a younger cousin sing her party-piece: On The Good Ship
Lollipop.

Thanks to all the Powers That Be that we don't have to do party pieces any
more!
Does anyone?  Well, maybe when I was in the Women's Institute - that was
something they left out of Calendar Girl . . . no - let's not go down that
road.
Anyway:  I stopped inflicting party-pieces on them some time ago.

Am I forgiven?

Yours sincerely,
Linda Walton.
(Blushing as red as her knickers!)

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[lace-chat] Re: Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Annette Gill
I've never bought red shoes, but my first pair of ballet shoes were red
leather.

When I was a teenager, I bought a pair of yellow plastic platform clogs,
with 5 or 6 heels.  I had a matching yellow blouse too, and the first time
I wore the ensemble, I walked into town and thought I was the bee's knees.
I tripped over in the darn things twice, the second time in front of some
boys of my own age who laughed at me.  I was mortified!

I've never had any desire to buy yellow (or red) shoes since...

Regards,
Annette, London

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[lace-chat] Re: NEC

2003-12-03 Thread Annette Gill
 Jane wrote:

 I think at 3pm they were announcing the draw - we all met up at 2pm,
 Jean :-).

 Did we really? By the time I got home I was too tired remember what time
 things happened. I still haven't really recovered, even with the bucket of
 candy floss yesterday. I haven't even looked at what I bought. 3pm just
 stuck in my mind.

 Jean in Poole

I'm really sorry we didn't hear the announcement that you were meeting.  I
was disappointed that we hadn't made any firm plans to meet, but I haven't
been well for the last week, so I left it to others to decide on a meeting
place and time.  I would love to have met some other Arachne members.

By the afternoon, I was pretty tired too, and wasn't paying much attention
to the announcements.  I felt like a zombie by then - I felt like I was just
a walking, talking shopping machine g

Regards,
Annette, London

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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread dominique
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Red shoesÓ.
[2003/12/02 22:53]

 I've had a couple of pairs of red shoes in my life - I *like* red shoes!
 
so do I !! i've had a few of all shapes and styles . i must say i loved my 
red stylettos with black trimmings which my knees and feet wouldn't accept 
at all today ... lol .. and i also cherished a pair of red shoes that gave 
me feet  a bit like Minnie's or some walt disney characters ... oh well ..

i like being dressed in dark colours with red shoes as the only bright part 
of me ... (pun intended ... or at least i thought there was one ... )

dominique from wet Paris but it's nothing compared to the south of France : 
they had in a day the amount of rain they usually have in three months ...

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Re: [lace-chat] Earthquake

2003-12-03 Thread W N Lafferty
Liz says:
 I see, in today's newspaper, that there was an earthquake up around Cooma
 during the night.
 I do hope you are alright, Noelene, and that your wonderful Round House has
 come to no harm.
 It registered - according to the paper, 3 on the Richter scale, and sounded
 like a train passing by.

Must have slept right through it, and it would take more than a 3-on-the-Richter
to stir this house.  Son reckons when an atomic blast threatens, he is going to grab 
his
wife and inlaws and come and hide here.  

But I hope all in Melbourne are OK after the freak storm they had last night.

Talking of earthquakes, I remember when we were in Taupo in New Zealand
many years ago, and it felt like a truck hit the side of the house we were staying
in.  We went running outside, but nobody else turned a hair.  Just a normal
everyday earth tremour for them.

In New Guinea, we called them a guri

Noelene in Cooma
Safe 'n' sound

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 I see, in today's newspaper, that there was an earthquake up around Cooma
 during the night.
 I do hope you are alright, Noelene, and that your wonderful Round House has
 come to no harm.
 It registered - according to the paper, 3 on the Richter scale, and sounded
 like a train passing by.
 
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[lace-chat] St. Nicholas Day Info Needed

2003-12-03 Thread Shirlee Hill
It is my understanding that somewhere in the world, children put out their shoes 
before they go to bed  St. Nicholas leaves treats in them if the children have been 
good.  Am I correct in this?  If so, when exactly do they put out their shoes?  St. 
Nicholas Day falls on a Saturday this year (December 6th).  Do they put out their 
shoes on Friday night  find goodies in them on the 6th, or do they put them out on 
Saturday night  find goodies in them on the 7th?  
 
Shirlee

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[lace-chat] red shoes poem

2003-12-03 Thread W N Lafferty
That poem starts off
New shoes, new shoes, red and pink and blue shoes
but for the life of me I can't remember anything else except
the repeated line That's the sort I'd buy
I'd love to know the rest of it.

I've never had a pair of all red shoes, but I still have a lovely
pair of high heel sandals with red and white and black thin
straps across the front, and a sling back.  Strange thing was
they were so comfortable!  But these days it's flat or raised
heel only, and my feet thank me for it.

Noelene in Cooma
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 Dear List,
 This thread of red shoes reminds me of a shoe poem my husband learnt  as
 a child.  All I can remember is:
 Black shoes, flat shoes, stamp them on the mat shoes.
 That's the sort of shoes they'd  buy!
 The young person in the poem wanted some strappy pointed toe shoes etc.
 Barbara, Parkes, Australia, Home of the Dish

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[lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Jean Nathan
In addition to red stillettos and clogs, I also had bright red
trainers/aerobic boots when I was diagnosed with RA and my feet needed
support. The physios gave me the choice of free made-to-measure hospital
shoes (yugh!) or buy-them-myself trainers. Well, which would you have
chosen? Because I was wearing skirts and dresses for work at the time, I
decided that if I had to have trainers which would look a bit odd with a
skirt, I might as well be bold about it and make them really noticeable. So
I chose bright red. My students thought they were great.

Jean in Poole

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[lace-chat] Re: NEC pics

2003-12-03 Thread Margery Allcock
Tamara wrote:

... Thanks, Margery, for converting the lot to a yahoo album -- could see
those, ...

Glad you've seen them, T; I'll remove them soon, so as not to step on
anyone's copyright toes.

In case anyone's interested: I caught the pics using a screen capture
program, and uploaded them to my yahoo photo album in a private area, then
got yahoo to send Tamara an invitation to view that area.  So they're not on
display to anyone but us two, and only there at all because Tamara couldn't
see them in the normal public fashion.

Bye for now,
Margery.


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[lace-chat] Re: new shoes poem

2003-12-03 Thread Deborah Metters
The shoes poem can be found here
http://www.wenaus.com/miranda/choosingshoes.html
(amongst other places)

Deborah

=
Deborah Metters

'Per ardua ad astra'


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[lace-chat] Re: Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  I'm another member of the red shoes club.  I have a pair of red
flats that I love to wear.  For some reason I feel having shoes to match the
color of an outfit (or accessory) is the height of fashion!  I also have a
pair of red espadrilles with a wedge for a heel.  I sewed red sequins all
over them so they are my Ruby Slippers.  I'm drooling over all the tales of
red spike heels G.

With my first real paycheck I bought a black wool cape, mid-calf length with
a big hood.  I think my Goddaughter has it now, she wore it for Halloween
one year.  One day I was walking home from work in Philadelphia, down the
parkway in front of the Art Museum for you who know the area.  It was in the
winter so it was dark and the wind was blowing and I had the hood up.  A
policeman at the crosswalk said
I didn't know what was coming towards me!  G.

Jane in Vermont, USA where we have a dusting of snow and the balmy mid-40s F
(6-7C) has turned to windy 25 F (-5C) - B.
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[lace-chat] red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Janice Blair
I wrote:
Don't think I ever got red shoes again.  :(
 
I went out for my lunch and returning home called in the local card shop.  A gentleman 
held the door open for me and said I will hold any door for someone in red shoes.  I 
had forgotten that my canvas slides are bright red with white piping.
 
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake where I struggled with the Christmas tree decorations today and am 
exhausted.

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[lace-chat] First Paycheck

2003-12-03 Thread W N Lafferty
Jane writes:
 With my first real paycheck I bought a black wool cape, mid-calf length with
 a big hood ...

Ah yes, those first paychecks -  when I first went to Papua New Guinea (single,
to work in a construction office), the pay was high and all accommodation expenses
were met by the company.  The money was mine, all mine!   I bought a pure silk
sleeveless blouse in pale pink, button down the back, and the front all pintucks.
Exquisite.   Wore it until it literally fell to bits.  Cost a full week's pay, and 
worth
every penny for the Wow factor.

Earlier than that, when I first started working in Sydney, it was a red wool dress,
body hugging to the  hips, with a gored, flared skirt which was perfect for The
Twist.   Now, that dates me!

Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace-chat] Earthquake

2003-12-03 Thread donlynn
I agree with Noelene's son's statement about the round house.  It would just
about take a nuclear blast to move that wonderful place.  Sure do miss
popping in for a TP on our way to Canberra.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, where we finally have sunshine and I have about 10
loads of washing to do today.

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[lace-chat] First pay cheque

2003-12-03 Thread Margot Walker
Oh, that first pay checque.  I remember what I spent all of mine on.  
After I finished university, I had a job lined up to start a month later 
and  I spent that month in Peru - a lifelong dream of mine.  (Well, the 
life wasn't so long at that point, but you know what I mean.)  I came 
home with $25 in the bank and had to live for a month on that until I 
received my first pay.  Needless to say, it wasn't enough and I had to 
borrow money from my father to survive the month.  So my first pay 
cheque went towards paying back my father and paying my expenses until I 
got my second pay cheque.  (I don't remember what I spent that one on.)

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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Re: [lace-chat] Red shoes

2003-12-03 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have to admit that I have a weakness for red shoes!  I
have a pair of impossible stilettos in red suede with a
suede rose on the toes.  They're actually too small for me
now, but I had to have them, and bought them on summer day
(on sale) and thought that my feet would be smaller in the
winter.  I have a pair of gardening shoes (plastic? rubber?)
which are red...  I have a wonderful pair of red suede shoes
that are like Birkenstocks but have a strap that makes them
look like Minnie Mouse shoes (fat Mary Janes!);  When I
was working, I had a wonderful pair of heels that weren't
more than 1 1/2 high, but had tapered heels, so they were
dressier than flats.  I loved them dearly and wore through
two resoles.  They were a wonderful tomato red as opposed
to cherry red.  At some point, I ran across another pair
on sale (out of fashion by then, but I snapped them up
eagerly...) but they were the brighter red.  Nevertheless, I
wore them down to nothing too.  And of course I had to
search forever to find my wonderful red rubber boots that I
wear in the snow!!

My red shoes go with my red hats and my purple (dresses,
caftans, whatever...)!

Clay
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 Ruth Budge a fait jouer ses doigts de fée pour écrire à
ÒRe: [lace-chat]
 Red shoesÓ.
 [2003/12/02 22:53]

  I've had a couple of pairs of red shoes in my life - I
*like* red shoes!
 
 so do I !! i've had a few of all shapes and styles . i
must say i loved my
 red stylettos with black trimmings which my knees and feet
wouldn't accept
 at all today ... lol .. and i also cherished a pair of red
shoes that gave
 me feet  a bit like Minnie's or some walt disney
characters ... oh well ..

 i like being dressed in dark colours with red shoes as the
only bright part
 of me ... (pun intended ... or at least i thought there
was one ... )

 dominique from wet Paris but it's nothing compared to the
south of France :
 they had in a day the amount of rain they usually have in
three months ...

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Re: [lace-chat] St. Nicholas Day Info Needed

2003-12-03 Thread Esther Perry
It is my understanding that somewhere in the world, children put out their shoes before they go to bed  St. Nicholas leaves treats in them if the children have been good.  Am I correct in this?  

You sure are!!!
This is how it went in our house: Starting about a week before December 
5th, we set our shoes near the hearth, together with a plate with a 
carrot 'for the horse'. The next morning we would find a cookie or a 
candy, never very much - and only if we'd been good. If we'd been bad 
(misbehaving) it would be a lump of coal instead. The last time we set 
our shoes was on December 4th to find a sweet on the morning of December 
5th.
Then in the evening about the time the supperdishes were cleared away, 
the tension rose - till suddenly there was loud banging on the door. We 
ran to open the door, tripping over each other (there were six of us 
;-)) and always found a large bag full of presents outside the door. 
Usually the honour of handing them out fell to my Dad.
Once my Dad's youngest brother and his then fiancée played the roles of 
St Nicholas and Black Peter, and brought the presents to our home, and 
once Dad had a bit of a windfall in November and Mom and Dad hired 
someone to come to hand out the presents. 
It took me many years to figure out that it was our next-door neighbor 
placing the bag at the door and doing the banging, and the thing was 
timed very well, because while we were busy cleaning up the 
supperdishes, Dad would do the same thing next-door, where they had had 
supper a bit earlier than us. Oh, and BTW, this happened in Holland, we 
were living in the city of Rotterdam then.

Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia
Esther Perry
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[lace-chat] First paycheck

2003-12-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
I had *three* of those (or equivalents; it was all in cash :)

There was the money that my first serious boyfriend and I earned doing 
rough cleaning (scrubbing floors with a bundle of iron shavings, then 
waxing and polishing. Also washing windows). I was 16 (*just* old 
enough to work legally) and he was 17.5 and we pooled the money in a 
savings account which I managed (he had more interest in philosophy 
than in everyday living. To this day his wife takes care of details 
g). Eventually, when we split (2 yrs later), each of us got a 
sizeable (for our age) nest egg but, once we were certain that we 
could have as many further engagements as we could manage (school was 
6 days a week, so it was only afternoons and Sundays we had free to 
work), we decided to blow that first honest money. That's where my 
first red shoes came from -- he gave me his share, and I bought them in 
a private store (as opposed to a govt one, where everything was 4 times 
cheaper, and about 50 yrs behind the fashion). There was enough money 
left for (student-priced) tickets to the theatre (Midsummer Night's 
Dream), and I wore the shoes with the brand-new dress I designed and my 
Mother made for me: black and white 4mm checks, white Peter Pan collar, 
and a red tie  -- a bit like a man's, but twice as wide and 
permanently tied and fixed at the neckline and as long as the dress 
itself. I felt very stylish (though cold, as the dress was sleeveless)

My second first paycheck was money I earnt illegally, working without 
a permit in Cambridge, UK at 18 (almost 19). That one got me a pair of 
real (Levi's) blue jeans and Daniel Jones' English Pronouncing 
Dictionary. The second paycheck was spent on a denim jacket to match 
the jeans. I had to take a co-worker (a 15yr old named Sam, who came 
most afternoons, after school; I worked full time -- 15/7 ) with me to 
show me where the denim treasures could be found. He was disgusted with 
my wasting the money on the book but it turned out he had an ulteriour 
motive: he borrowed the jeans and the jacket for his first 
out-of-school job interview, but had no use for the dictionary... g 
To this day I remember the two buying trips the two of us made, the  
superiour hush of the Levi's establishment, and how much Sam enjoyed 
ordering the sales clerks around, while I was in and out of the fitting 
booth (fitting booth??? I'd never seen one before; in Poland, you were 
lucky if there was a mirror per floor)

My third first... The damned intellectuals (like University 
students) needed a lesson in reality, so they had to spend a summer 
month working either in a factory or at a collective farm... I was sent 
to a factory (fruit and veg processing), near the German border (praise 
be; at least there was running hot and cold water there) the summer 
after the Brit one. By then, I had already been (privately) tutoring 
English for a year -- a very lucrative job -- so I was used not only to 
having money, but to earning it without too much effort. It turned out 
I *did* need a lesson in reality, though; an hour of tutoring got me 
as much as 8 hrs in the factory, and there was no tax on tutoring, 
since that was done sub rosa and never reported... :)

So, when I collected my *month's* worth of wages, and it wasn't quite 
enough to replace the nice watch and ring which had been stolen while I 
was there (we got paid the same as the locals. But *our* food and 
lodging was subsidised, in toto, by the govt, in the name of 
education... The mind boggles g. OTOH, apparently, US is paying for 
the Polish troops trip to Iraq...), I blew it all on a one-piece, 
stretchy, swimsuit. An Italian import in weird colours and a splotchy 
pattern. Since Western imports were the thing (prestige-wise; 
price-wise, even imports were subsidised by the govt g), and since 
the suits were sold in only one store in Warsaw, it was quite a triumph 
to have secured one. The store was fancy enough to have fitting booths 
-- 3 for the swim-suit dept. Each consisted of 4 pieces of fabric 
attached to aluminium tubes, and there was a mirror outside; one (and 
everybody else g) could see how well/ill the garment fit. There was a 
long queue for each of the booths, and there was a 4-deep ring of men 
around the mirror (we didn't have Sports Illustrated, summer issue in 
Poland g), waiting for the contestants to emerge from behind the 
curtains... Mostly husbands and boyfriends, I think, but, perhaps, not 
all of them. But everyone -- men and women -- went into deep shock when 
I asked my boyfriend (not the shoe one; 3rd paycheck, 3rd boyfriend 
g) to step *into the booth* with me when I was changing. Made the 
exercise worth while :) Sadly, neither the boyfriend nor the suit 
lasted; the boyfriend got boring (wanted to get married, and I still 
had 3 yrs of U to go through), and the suit itched -- I'm allergic to 
nylon (all non-breathing, non-absorbent fibers)...

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of 

[lace-chat] Re: St. Nicholas Day Info Needed

2003-12-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Wednesday, Dec 3, 2003, at 22:10 US/Eastern, Esther Perry wrote:

This is how it went in our house: [...]
Many thanks, Esther, for the description of St Nicholas' Day in 
Holland. In Poland, we recognised it, but didn't *really* observe it; 
our gifts were brought by the first star (supposedly the same one which 
guided the 3 Kings) on the 24th.  On Dec 6, we exchanged gifts in 
school (the holidays started on 22nd or 23rd, and we went back on Jan 
7th, after Epiphany. Spell?); one drew a name around Dec 1, and had to 
provide something small (inexpensive) for that person on Dec 6.

There's a beautiful and most moving description of the St Nicholas and 
the shoe custom in Victor Hugo's Les Miserables. It's where Jean 
Valjean (?) comes to collect Cossette (?) after his spell as a 
convict. Her mother's been dead for several years, and Cosette has been 
working (slaving) in a household which has two other girls (pampered 
daughters of her employers) in it. All 3 hang their sabots near the 
chimney the night before St Nicholas' Day, but only the other two ever 
find something in them. Until the night Jean Valjean comes to the 
village... That part of the book had been made into a smaller, separate 
one in Polish, and I used to read and re-read it at least 4 times a 
year from the time I was 6 until I was 16 :)

The confusion of the dates is, BTW, not altogether surprising. The 
feast of St Nicholas is on Dec 6th in *Roman* Catholic church, but on 
the 5th in the *Orthodox* one...

-
Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Assisted Computing

2003-12-03 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
I've seen this one before; it had been a website -- pictures 'n'all... 
:) But it's been a lng time ago and hopefully, some of you can find 
a chuckle for it now... I can certainly relate (on behalf of my son) 
:) Apologies for length.

From: M.A.
  The Toughest Decision

  SHOULD MY LOVED ONE BE PLACED IN AN ASSISTED COMPUTING FACILITY?

  For family members, it is often the most difficult and painful 
decision
they will face: to accept that a loved one - a parent, a spouse, perhaps
even a sibling - is technologically impaired and should no longer be 
allowed
to live independently, or come near a computer or electronic device 
without
direct supervision.  The time has come to place that loved one into the 
care
of an Assisted Computing Facility.  But naturally you have questions.  
So
many questions.  We at Silicon Pines want to help.

  WHAT EXACTLY IS AN ASSISTED COMPUTING FACILITY?

  Sometimes referred to as Homes for the Technologically Infirm,
Technical Invalid Care Centers, or Homes for the Technically 
Challenged,
Assisted Computing Facilities (ACFs) are modeled on assisted living
facilities, and provide a safe, structured residential environment for 
those
unable to handle even the most common, everyday multi-tasks.

  Most fully accredited ACFs, like Silicon Pines, are an oasis of hope 
and
encouragement that allow residents to lead productive, technologically
relevant lives without the fear and anxiety associated with actually 
having
to understand or execute the technologies themselves.

  WHO SHOULD BE IN AN ACF?

  Sadly, technology is advancing at such a dramatic rate that many 
millions,
of all ages, will never truly be able to understand it, putting an undue
burden on those friends and family members who must explain it to them. 
 But
unless the loved one is suffering from a truly debilitating affliction, 
such
as Reinstallzheimers, the decision to commit is entirely personal.  You 
must
ask yourself: How frustrated am I that my parent/sibling/spouse is 
unable
to openan email attachment? How much of my time should be taken up
explaining how RAM is different from hard drive memory? How many 
times can
I bear to hear my dad say,'Hey, can I replace the motherboard with a
fatherboard?  Ha ha ha!'

  To make things easier, we have prepared a list of Warning Signs which 
we
encourage you to return to often, or, if you can't figure out how to
bookmark it, print out.  Also, please take a moment to read I'm Glad 
I'm in
Here!  - A Resident's Story.

  MUST IT BE FAMILY, OR CAN I PLACE ANYONE IN AN ACF?

  Several corporations have sought permission to have certain 
employees, or
at times entire sales departments, committed to ACFs.  At present, 
however,
individuals can be committed only by direct family or self-internment.  
The
reason is simple: there are not nearly enough ACFs in the world to
accommodate all the technologically challenged.  For example, there are
currently only 860,000 beds available in ACFs, but there are 29 million 
AOL
users.

  HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?

  ACF rents range from free up to $12,500 per month.  The disparity is
currently a point of contention in the ACF industry.  Many residents are
covered through government programs such as CompuAid or CompuCare, but
reimbursement rates are low and only cover a portion of the fees.
Exacerbating the situation are the HelpDesk Maintenance Organizations
(HMOs), which often deny coverage, forcing residents to pay out of 
pocket or
turn to expensive private techcare insurers such as 
BlueCache/BlueScreen.

  Offsetting the costs are technology companies themselves, many of 
which
subsidize ACFs.  Firms such as Microsoft,Dell, Qualcomm, and America 
Online
will pay up to 100% of a resident's monthly bill, but there is a catch.
  ISPs, for instance, require residents to sign service contracts 
lasting a
year or more.  Microsoft, meanwhile,prohibits the installation of any
competitive software, while Priceline requires that residents buy 
shares of
it's stock, which seems onerous but saves residents on lavatory tissue.

  HOW OLD MUST I BE TO HAVE SOMEONE COMMITTED?

  Until very recently, you had to be 18 or older to legally commit a 
family
member.  However, the now famous British court case Frazier vs.  
Frazier and
Frazier has cleared the way for minors to commit their parents.  In that
case, 15-year-old Bradley Frazier of Leicester had his 37-year-old 
parents
committed to an ACF in Bournemouth after a judge ruled Ian and Janet 
Frazier
were a danger to themselves and the community. According to court 
records,
Bradley told his parents about the I LoveYou virus and warned them not 
to
click attachments, then the next day his parents received an I LoveYou 
email
and clicked on the attachment because, they explained, it came from 
someone
we know.

  WHAT SHOULD I LOOK FOR IN AN ACF?

  First, make sure it's a genuine Assisted Computing Facility, and not 
an
Assisted Living Facility.  To tell the difference, observe the