[lace-chat] Thank You S P

2004-03-13 Thread harlequin.lace
Dear Secret Pal,
I am very lucky to have such a thoughtful S P as you. The bright box of
goodies have really helped to cheer me up at the end of a very stressful
week.I love the frogs they are too nice to shut in my jewellery box, so I
think that I will find a way to put them on my lace pillow. I can understand
why the Kookaburra is your favourite bird, as his song is very cheery and he
has quite a cute look.I think that I will have a  long soak in a rose scented
bath tomorrow.
I look forward to next month when I will find out who you are.

Best Wishes
Sue
>From Southampton U.K. where the sun is shining and there are signs of spring
on the way.

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Re: [lace-chat] plants

2004-03-13 Thread dominique
hello Jenny 

there are lots of sites on plants on the web but here's one i think will be 
useful to you for a start 

http://www.gardengatemagazine.com/

and here are a few others i got on google about australian gardens which 
might be just as important because your plants will grow better if they're 
adapted to your country (though we do have eucalyptus and wattles in the 
south of France .. where everybody thinks mimosa aka wattle is native  
... i am from the south of France though living in paris and enjoying 
every minute of it and what i miss most is the yellow cover of wattles on 
the hill sides in spring .. that's one of the things that make life worth 
living ...! ..)
so back to the australian sites about flowers and plants 

http://www.au.gardenweb.com/
http://www.global-garden.com.au/

http://www.heyne.com.au/gardencentre/

enjoy your gardening and show us photos from time to time ..

dominique from Paris where the temps are freezing and flowers blooming .. 
go figure! ..

Jenny Rees a décidé d' écrire à  Ò[lace-chat] plantsÓ.
[2004/03/12 22:26]

> To all spiders with green thumbs
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[lace-chat] March in the Northern Hemisphere

2004-03-13 Thread Peter Goldsmith
Dominique's comment about the weather in Paris put me in mind of the saying
'March - in like a lion, out like a lamb'.
I always found it was more in like a lamb and out like a lion - the last roar
of winter. When I was at Uni in Bradford (West Yorkshire) never had problems
getting home or back to Uni at Christmas/New Year but always had problems at
Easter.

Peter in Shellharbour, NSW

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Re: [lace-chat] Query

2004-03-13 Thread Avital
Janice and all,

That is a probably a worm or virus. Do not open it! It was not sent out by
Arachne but came from someone who has both Arachne and your address in their
address book. Without going into the technical details, I can assure you
that the chances of getting a virus from Arachne are almost non-existent
(and if one had been sent out, you would not be the only one!). Attachments
are never sent out on this list because the server strips them (digests
readers see only garbage if attachments are sent).

Best wishes,

Avital

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> I have received an email from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and the
subject is "re: your document" with an attachment, total 25K.  I have not
opened either email or attachment.  Is this a possible virus or worm?
Avital can you let me know if anything like this is being sent out
legitimately.  thanks,
> Janice Blair

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Re: [lace-chat] I'm back!/Query

2004-03-13 Thread Avital
Tamara wrote:
chat (Avital, you're a *gem* to have remembered to resubscribe me
before I had a chance to nudge you!), which I read before I crashed.
>>>

Believe me, downloading a free calendar program was one of the best things I
ever did. These days I have a mind like a steel sieve. 

Avital

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Re: [lace-chat] Spain

2004-03-13 Thread Martha Krieg
My analysis is from a purely personal standpoint, but watching this 
sort of thing evolve over the past decades, I've come to the 
conclusion that terrorism (when not done by a state to its own 
citizens, where the resulting control is a real political benefit to 
those in charge) is a desperate attempt by people who feel powerless 
to control the wellbeing of themselves or their cause, to gain a 
sense of power over others. It's probably akin to domestic violence. 
The problem is how to stop it, since the fear of being undervalued 
(and in some cases, the experience of not being able to make any 
headway with normal means of negotiation) is very deeply-rooted. 
Especially in cultures which are based on the honor of the group or 
individual, it seems almost insoluble, since backing down on demands 
entails a loss of honor.  And all it takes is a few extremists or 
even mentally unbalanced people, now that explosives and poisons like 
sarin exist. It was harder to accomplish in the old days - one person 
couldn't take out hundreds very easily.

If all people felt that all people were just like themselves, and 
just as valuable, this sort of thing would be hard to do... but most 
of us (myself included, I hate to admit, even though I fight against 
it, since I believe it to be wrong!) draw lines around the people who 
are part of "our group", and consider others as somehow less worthy 
of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Just for a personal 
test, do you feel the same sense of outrage when a member of another 
ethnic or political group dies in a terrorist attack as when one of 
your own does?  At the worst, individuals and groups believe that 
only members of their own family or group are worthy of protecting.

Oh well... end of political rant, and wishing there were some way to 
wave a magic wand of peace and prosperity for all

--
--
Martha Krieg   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  in Michigan
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[lace-chat] Spain

2004-03-13 Thread Judith Bongiovanni
I also add my condolences to all our lace friends in Spain. Whatever the
causes the results are tragedies for innocent people and it often seems too
terrible for words. My best wishes to all of you
Judy in Niagara Falls

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[lace-chat] Fwd: An unusual love story

2004-03-13 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: R.P.
Penguins accept same-sex commitments. Why do some people have so much
trouble with the idea?
Feb. 23 - Birds do it. Bees do it. And, it turns out, even the penguins 
at
the Central Park Zoo do it. So let's do it: Let's let gay people make a
lifelong commitment to each other marry openly, legally and in public.

I reached this Cole Porter-esque conclusion on Valentine's Day when, in 
my
ongoing quest to understand why some heterosexuals believe that gay 
marriage
will destroy their "traditional" marriages, I stopped by the Central 
Park Zoo
to interview the famously gay penguins, Roy and Silo.

You may not know about Roy and Silo, but we New Yorkers have been mighty
proud since they came out in 1998. Finally, instead of having New York's
collective sex life defined by the floozy, commitment-challenged
heterosexual women of "Sex and the City" or the pages of personal ads 
taken
out by single losers, we finally had a First Couple of Monogamy that 
would
show the world that love and fidelity could still conquer all (plus, 
they
looked great in their little tuxedos).

Roy and Silo's love is a story for the ages. Like so many great lovers, 
Roy
and Silo met in a zoo holding tank in 1998. They were young then, and 
unsure
of themselves sexually, like many adolescents (and when I say 
"adolescents,"
of course, I mean me). But their attraction could not be denied, and 
they have
remained inseparable, according to Central Park Zoo penguin keeper Rob
Gramzay.

Gramzay knew that Roy and Silo had paired off, because at breeding time,
they did everything the "straight" penguins did: they built a nest, they
defended it from others and engaged in what zookeepers euphemistically 
call
"ecstatic display." It sounds kinky, but it simply means that the 
penguins stand
straight up, stretch out their wings and entwine their necks. It's the 
penguin
equivalent of going to City Hall in San Francisco.

(As an aside, isn't S.F. mayor Gavin Newsom a genius? By allowing gays 
to
marry, not only is he sending a powerful civil rights message, but 
every one
of those gay couples had to buy a marriage license. At $82 a pop, 
Newsom has
added almost $400,000 to the strapped civic treasury-money that 
certainly
won't be refunded when President Bush amends the Constitution to do
something no reasonable compassionate conservative would ever do: Make 
it
less protective of individual freedom and personal liberty rather than 
more).

Back in the tank, Roy and Silo's behavior indicated that they really 
wanted
a kid. Zookeepers gave them a dummy penguin egg, just to see if they'd
actually incubate it. When they did, zookeepers gave them an actual egg,
which Roy and Silo again incubated. When the baby chick was born, Roy 
and
Silo cared for it, feeding it yummy regurgitated smelt and keeping it 
warm
until it could survive on its own.

Years later, Roy and Silo are still going strong. And so are all their
heterosexual penguin pals who share the tank with them. So, that 
dispels one
myth about gay marriage: Roy and Silo's commitment to each other has not
destroyed the sanctity of the other penguin marriages. Gramzay said the
penguin divorce rate remains the same as it was before Roy and Silo 
hooked
up.

Not that you see much "hooking up." I'll admit it, I had gone to Central
Park in hopes of seeing some hot gay penguin sex, but it turns out that
penguins pretty much ignore each other until mating season, which 
begins in
about six weeks. So when I visited the tank last week, Roy was puttering
around with a rock while Silo swam and barely made eye contact. In 
other words, they
looked liked an old married couple.

Besides, sex in the penguin world - straight or gay-isn't all that hot 
(and
it's barely sex). Penguins don't have genitals, per se, so gay penguin 
sex
is exactly the same as straight penguin sex (not to be graphic here, 
but it
basically involves the locking of cloacae. Can I say "cloacae" on a 
family
Web site?). The only difference, Gramzay said, is that Roy and Silo 
unlock
before, um, "completion."

That sounded strange to me, so I called my thespian friend, Eric Oleson
(it's okay to call him that because he's openly thespian). As a gay man,
Oleson was impressed by Roy and Silo's commitment to each other, 
despite a
climax-free sex life. "It's actually kind of sweet," Oleson said. "They 
realize that
they don't have the equipment, yet they're still devoted to each other. 
It shows
that gay marriage is not just about sex." (Another gay-marriage myth 
dispelled!
Just because a couple can't breed, doesn't mean it can't love. And, 
after all, Roy
and Silo successfully adopted.)

So if Roy and Silo can do it, why can't humans? Indeed, if homosexual
marriages exist in the animal kingdom, they must be normal. Then again, 
many
opponents of gay marriage say that anything animals do is, well, 
animalistic
and they want no part of it. But by that logic, we should give up 
straight
sex, too, because animals pretty much invented it

[lace-chat] S. P Thank you

2004-03-13 Thread margaret turner
Sorry if this is late, but have just got home again, after visiting our
families.
Your parcel was waiting on the door step when I arrived home.

I  lov e the scarfe it is so delicate, and the coupon cutter, very handy to
have around. the bobbin, and the lovely dragonfly pin, but the piece of
Turkish lace, made in U.K. and now here in Mt.Eliza, I will have to take it
with me to our next meeting, this week, a group of us will take off from the
meeting to go to Sale for a lace weekend.
I hope that things start to improve for you,I know how you feel, we went to
visit family which if you drive straight through is about 9 hrs, but because
DH has not been the best this past year , it took us a week and a half to get
there, and another week to get home, every two or three hours and we pulled in
for the night, or some times two nights.But now I have seen the family I can
concentrate of my family here.
Margaret
in Mt. Eliza

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[lace-chat] RE: plants

2004-03-13 Thread Helen Bell
Jenny,

I can only think of US ones, and I like Wayside Gardens - they give the
planting zones, shade/sun requirements, etc.  You might want to see if
any of the botanical gardens down in Oz have a website - I know you have
a wonderful one in Canberra, which I only partly explored last time I
was there.   Don't know if Burke's Backyard has any links to
horticultural sites down there.

Cheers,
Helen, Aussie living in Delightful Denver

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