[lace-chat] Stinging Things
Your posts of bees and wasps bring back painful memories! One summery day I was in my back yard and decided a row along the garden edge needed weeding. I was wearing blue jeans not very comfortable to kneel in... but I did the job. When I stood up and walked back to the garden shed to put the gloves inside I suddenly felt a sharp needle-like pain in my left thigh - just below the *cheek*. g Ouch I jumped and immediately brushed my hand across the back of my jeans, thinking something had attached itself to me. Ouch... again... and again... and again To *heck* with pride - I was unzipping and stripping as I was running across the yard into the house, and I believe a few choice words escaped on my way! Have you tried to rush out of a pair of jeans, while wearing laced sneakers? By the time I'd wriggled out of the denims and grabbed a mirror (to make sure it wasn't still there) I spotted about seven red marks. I looked around in panic .. and spotted what I presumed was the guilty party, by now perched on the shower curtain. It didn't survive long enough to plead it's case!! It was wasp-like, about an inch long with a very slim body - neighbours later told me it must have been a mud-wasp. I'd never heard of such a thing - but am wary of them since. Fortunately, it proved that I was not extremely allergic my thigh did swell tremendously, was hot and painful and I developed a style of perching cross-legged on a chair for the following week. (lol) A certain lace friend ( Hi BW) later sent me a pretty giftie of a piece of material - covered with bumble bees. :-) It now covers my lace pillow - and I smile whenever I see it. :-) So, from experience, I can say.. given the choice, sooner a bumble bee than a wasp up your pants!! Nova (on Vancouver Island, B.C living in harmony thus far with spiders, but keeping a safe distance from angry wasps!) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal
Dear Secret Pal Thank you so much for my parcel which arrived this morning. What a lovely lot of goodies - and I have plans for all of them already! The wombat is gorgeous and I have decided to call him Wally. I love soft toys, and this one is so different and cute. My daughter will be so envious. I am going to display him on my dressing table. The bookmark is in use already - I have just started reading a new book, and was using a bit of an envelope to mark my place. The artwork on it is very interesting, and I love the design on the snake's back - it looks like you should be able to adapt it to a lace design! The embroidery kit is so pretty. I shall take it with me when I go away on holiday in a week's time. It will not take up too much room, and will be fun to do. The bag is very nice, and as I have an 'event' to go to soon that I am a bit apprehensive about, I will use it then for the first time and it will be just right. The spangles are so pretty and unusual. I have never seen beads that shape before, and they will certainly look really special on my pillow. The gloves you sent me last time really do work - I use them all the time in the shower, and am so smooth now! The threads you sent me are in use in a Hardanger embroidery that I have been wanting to do for a long time when I could find the right threads, and these are perfect. Thank you once again for a lovely parcel. 'Speak' to you next month. Take care. Dee Palin Gloucestershire To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: raffle!
Thank you so much for the Piecework magazine, it arrived today. I have a lot of delicious reading to go through as the new Martha Pullen Vintage Collection book also arrived, with more lacey things. Thanks again, Lynn Scott in Wollongong To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) Thought for the day
This was send to DH by one of his US friends. Just amusingly (IMO) shows the conclusions that can be gleaned from statistics: Interesting Thought for the day: If you consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000. The rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our Nation's Capitol (which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation) than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately pull out of Washington D.C. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Sad news
Hi all! I just recieved some sad news, Doris Southard's husband passed away on August 3rd. I don't have any other details. JoAnne Pruitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Birth of a Hummingbird
Hi All -- Speaking of leaving the nest, feathering the nest (!) and the GOOD side of Mother Nature (though I have reservations about trying to make a nest in a poison oak tree!), I got this from my mum today -- some of you might enjoy seeing this, if you haven't yet Here's to a great lace-y week for everyone! Ricki Utah THE BIRTH OF A HUMMINGBIRD This is truly amazing. Be sure to click on NEXT PAGE at the bottom of each page of pictures; there are 5 pages in all. A lady found a hummingbird nest and got pictures all the way from the egg to leaving the nest. It took 24 days from birth to flight. Because you'll probably never in your lifetime see this again, enjoy; and please share. http://community.webtv.net/Velpics/HUM To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Creepy crawlies
Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am becoming even more thankful that I live in the UK! We don't have to put up with all these poisonous and unpleasant creepy crawlies and snakes! Michigan's list of creepy crawlies is pretty short. There is supposed to be one poisonous snake that lives in Michigan, the massasauga rattlesnake. They are very shy and rare, and although I have gone camping many times, I have never seen one. We do have various kinds of wasps and hornets. When I was growing up, there used to be wild honeybees, and if you had dandelions or clover in your lawn, once in a while someone would be stung on the ankle or foot. But these days the varroa mites and trachea mites have killed off most of the wild honeybees, so you only see them if you are near a beekeeper. I still find it very strange to stand by a flowering tree in the spring, and see that the few bees in the blossoms are big bumble bees, and not hear the flowers buzzing with honey bees. Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: silkworms
BrambleLane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricki in Utah writes: I've thought about raising silkworms in my mulberry trees, too, until I heard someone explain it's cruelty to animals. Ricki, I am in my second season of raising silkworms. I am a handspinner. And I intend to use the silk from them. I would be interested in knowing why it is considered cruelty to animals. I think that must be the point when cocoons for reeling are put in boiling water, killing the caterpillars before they chew their way out. Personally I'm not that sentimental about caterpillars. I've certainly killed my share of the white cabbage butterfly caterpillars! Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: .......And flying things
that is scary. just a little sting could end your life like that. you are more corageous then i would ever be to leave the house, but then again the medicine your friend had did help and probably saved your life. i guess it is something very simple to counteract the poison from the bee. also if i were allergic to bees, i would know because i would also be allergic to honey, which i am not. i think i am safe to say i am not allergic by the reaction you had compared to my knee swelling triple its size. pesky bugs cause more problems than they are worth! --- Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 7, 2005, at 3:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie) wrote: Suzy, most people will not have anything more than a temporarily painful sting from bees and wasps - an icepack will very quickly remove most of the pain. Yes, that's what I've always known to be true (and enjoyed the jokes about killing a bee with an ax, when it was sitting on someone's face). Until I got stung myself. I suppose I should have been alerted to the fact that I might be allergic, because I'm mildly intollerant to honey (as I am to milk). But, when I got stung - on the tip of my finger (I picked up an apple to which a bee had claimed a prior ownership g) - it never occured to me to do anything more than suck the finger and put a paste of bicarb on it... 12 hrs later - 4AM - my entire arm was swollen to twice the size, and I was worried the swelling was going to hit the armpit glands any minute, so I woke up DH and we hightailed it to the emergency unit of the hospital. The doctor there said that, given I was so stupid, it was lucky I hadn't been stung anywhere around the head, since I'd have had about half an hour instead of 12. And he was right, too; next time I got stung was at an outdoors party (what can I say... I *do like* and apple-smelling shampoo... g). Bottom tip of the ear-lobe, and, by the time I realised what happened, got worried, reported to Severn, got him worried, started gathering stuff to head for the hospital - maybe 15 minutes in all - I was beginning to feel a bit woozy and smiling was becoming difficult (the facial muscles went rigid), as was swallowing (the throat was swelling on the inside). Luckily, the hostess's DH is highly allergic to a lot of things, so she had some high-powered meds on hand. By the time we hit the hospital 20 minutes later (the advantages of a small town g), they began to kick in, and I was almost back to normal, so I didn't get anything else except the prescription for the Epi-pen. A sting on the outside of your throat is no more dangerous than most other places. 's not true, if you're allergic. If your throat closes because it's swollen inside, you can't breathe, and being hit around the head gets the venom to the throat that much faster. DH, who loves shrimp as much as I do, is allergic to them, and we've got it down to a science as to how many he can eat before his throat starts itching and closing - 3 medium ones. Thankfully, our son has not inherited either of our allergies - he can pig out on shrrimp the way I can and he'd been stung by a bee with no more than a normal itch and a bump. Of course, he's developed his own allergies, but living in CA and never visiting VA in May or September has kept him breathing normally... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Stinging Things
it might have been a queen wasp or bee if they have queens. i am not sure what their lifestyles are. a queen is the only bee who can sting continuously. wasps also bite. a bee will die after it stings you unless it is queen. you might have found the queen mother of its nest! --- Spud Islander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your posts of bees and wasps bring back painful memories! One summery day I was in my back yard and decided a row along the garden edge needed weeding. I was wearing blue jeans not very comfortable to kneel in... but I did the job. When I stood up and walked back to the garden shed to put the gloves inside I suddenly felt a sharp needle-like pain in my left thigh - just below the *cheek*. g Ouch I jumped and immediately brushed my hand across the back of my jeans, thinking something had attached itself to me. Ouch... again... and again... and again To *heck* with pride - I was unzipping and stripping as I was running across the yard into the house, and I believe a few choice words escaped on my way! Have you tried to rush out of a pair of jeans, while wearing laced sneakers? By the time I'd wriggled out of the denims and grabbed a mirror (to make sure it wasn't still there) I spotted about seven red marks. I looked around in panic .. and spotted what I presumed was the guilty party, by now perched on the shower curtain. It didn't survive long enough to plead it's case!! It was wasp-like, about an inch long with a very slim body - neighbours later told me it must have been a mud-wasp. I'd never heard of such a thing - but am wary of them since. Fortunately, it proved that I was not extremely allergic my thigh did swell tremendously, was hot and painful and I developed a style of perching cross-legged on a chair for the following week. (lol) A certain lace friend ( Hi BW) later sent me a pretty giftie of a piece of material - covered with bumble bees. :-) It now covers my lace pillow - and I smile whenever I see it. :-) So, from experience, I can say.. given the choice, sooner a bumble bee than a wasp up your pants!! Nova (on Vancouver Island, B.C living in harmony thus far with spiders, but keeping a safe distance from angry wasps!) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
In a message dated 8/7/2005 2:12:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Commercial silk farmers do kill the larvae so that the cocoons can be reeled (unwound). I don't much care for the thought of that, either. (OTOH, I'm not about to stop buying silk.) However, in my own experience, not all the cocoons hatch, anyway. So, I let things go as they will, and those that do not hatch can be reeled, and those that do can be washed and carded. No loss! ;-) Margaret, I'm wondering if you could tell me/us a bit more about handspinning silk? Do you use a drop spindle? Is silk hard to card and spin? What do you do with your thread once it's spun (make lace? :)) And if you don't mind, a bit more about growing silkworms too! Thanks! Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Admin: Trimming messages
Hi, Arachnes, Just a gentle reminder to trim quoted messages, please. Thank-you. Avital Arachne moderator To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] .......And flying things
not a problem. i keep forgetting to cut the old letter off. i try to read it while i'm writing to remember what i am writing about. i usually try to leave the first letter on there and add my comment on the top, but delete the rest if there is any more other replies. i'll be more careful. i'll just cut and paste what line i am replying to like i have seen in most of the emails. thanks for the good advice about the bees. but if a wasp is thrown out of his nest or is trapped in your house all night it can sting you. both my uncle and aunt have been stung at night like that. it is rare, but it has happened. wasps do a nice job for the environment, but they are horrible to deal with. they eat parasites or some kind of insects that will damage your gardens, so they are not always a bad sign when they build a home. they are dangerous though, and nosy. any bee is nosy! when i was in kindtergarden in tennessee, i lived in an old house belonging to one of my relatives. the house was set back behind some trees and behind a creek that we had to cross a bridge covering it to get to the main road. at the time it was a dirt road, but now they have black topped it. it had well water, a septic tank, and a wood stove. the only thing modern it had was electricity. the year that we lived there they had an infestation of wasps. they covered the entire side of the house. when we went out during the day, the whole side of the house was covered in wasps. i can't remeber if it were just red wasps or black wasps also mixed in, but not one day did we get scared living there. i still can't figure out to this day why my mother didn't buy some spray to kill them. there may have been one or two wasps a day that got into the house, maybe more but i don't remember having any problem with them in the house, but the only one of us that got stung the whole time we lived there was my youngest brother. he has red hair, and he was always getting teased about his hair. one of the things he was told was that red wasps didn't sting red haired people. one day we all scream for our mother about a wasp being on the floor, and before she got there to kill it, my brother who was barefooted said don't worry, i'll get it and stepped on the thing. he got stung and my mother nagged my uncle for months for telling him silly tales. she still tells him to this day how mean that was. that was in 1976, and i wonder why that year they were so bad. this area has changes a lot since then, and there are so many houses built where there were just lots of trees. all the houses including the one we lived in has city water. everyone still has the same things to worry about: snakes, wasps, and thunderstorms, so i guess some things will never change. from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
i was curious how small of a bin can you keep and still grow them. also what is the total amount of silk you recieve per batch and how often in the year can you regrow them. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/7/2005 2:12:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Commercial silk farmers do kill the larvae so that the cocoons can be reeled (unwound). I don't much care for the thought of that, either. (OTOH, I'm not about to stop buying silk.) However, in my own experience, not all the cocoons hatch, anyway. So, I let things go as they will, and those that do not hatch can be reeled, and those that do can be washed and carded. No loss! ;-) Margaret, I'm wondering if you could tell me/us a bit more about handspinning silk? Do you use a drop spindle? Is silk hard to card and spin? What do you do with your thread once it's spun (make lace? :)) And if you don't mind, a bit more about growing silkworms too! Thanks! Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] .......And flying things
In a message dated 8/8/2005 10:03:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the year that we lived there they had an infestation of wasps. they covered the entire side of the house. when we went out during the day, the whole side of the house was covered in wasps. i can't remeber if it were just red wasps or black wasps also mixed in, but not one day did we get scared living there. i still can't figure out to this day why my mother didn't buy some spray to kill them. there may have been one or two wasps a day that got into the house, maybe more but i don't remember having any problem with them in the house, but the only one of us that got stung the whole time we lived there was my youngest brother. he has red hair, and he was always getting teased about his hair. one of the things he was told was that red wasps didn't sting red haired people. one day we all scream for our mother about a wasp being on the floor, and before she got there to kill it, my brother who was barefooted said don't worry, i'll get it and stepped on the thing. he got stung and my mother nagged my uncle for months for telling him silly tales. she still tells him to this day how mean that was. that was in 1976, and i wonder why that year they were so bad. These stories remind me of a couple from my childhood! One was the girl across the street, Alice Jane, who used to smash bees with her bare feet! She was one tough cookie. (She was mean to butterflies, too -- but I won't tell you about that. She deserves what's coming to her for that, if you ask me!) And another girl, Marcie -- in 3rd grade we were lined up after recess and a bee landed on her arm. She was very sweet, and had told by her mother: If a bee lands on you, stand still, and it will fly away. So being the obedient type she was, she stood still patiently and waited for it to fly away -- and the bee stung her on the arm! I'll never forget that!!! Since then, I always have brushed them away -- or rather, flailed away at them and run away! Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Doris Southard
Dear friends, On hearing the sad news on here of Doris' husband, I do have her address at hand, from when she wrote to me, in 2000, when she herself was ill, if anyone would like her address please E-mail me. Pauline in Somerset. U.K. www.wincanton-uk.com http://www.wincanton-uk.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Looking for Cherry
Hi all. Sorry for the post but my notes to Cherry Knoblock keep bouncing. Are you out there Cherry? Hooked back up yet? Get in touch. Thanks bobbi ~*~ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Wasp story
We certainly have a lot of bug stories, don't we? This is better than the flame war that sometimes seem to start up in August. Give me creepy crawly stories from the safety of the computer room any time! Nova's wasp story reminded me that I have a wasp story of my own. A couple of years ago, in the fall, I took in a batch of laundry I had hung outdoors on the clothesline. The days were getting shorter and cooler, and so some of the heavier fabrics, like denim blue jeans, had not quite dried. So I put the whole batch into the dryer, thinking that at least they were partly dry. The next morning I pulled out a pair of my slacks to wear to work and put them on. As I walked to the kitchen I felt that jabbing pain Nova described -- like having a hot knitting needle spiked into you -- right where the back of the leg meets the buttock! YOW! I dropped those pants so fast! And sure enough, a wasp had ridden indoors on the laundry and survived its tumbling in the dryer. All I could think of was the fact that for me, wasp bites usually swell, and then they *itch*. I would be going to work (minus the wasp!), with an itchy wasp bite right on my backside! But strangely, this wasp bite, although it hurt, never started to itch. I slowly realized that it must have used up all of its venom stinging the laundry as it tumbled in the hot dryer! And I thanked goodness that the batch hadn't quite dried. Otherwise it might have been my hand, as I folded the laundry, that met up with the wasp. I learned my lesson -- when the wasps start looking for places to hibernate in the fall, I give up hanging laundry outdoors, even if the day is sunny and warm. It's not worth the wasp-roulette! Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Wasp story
As long as everyone is sharing . . . :D My bug story isn't wasps, it's hornets. When I was about 5 or so, my mom was visiting one of her friends who had a daughter about my age. There was also a large hedge around her yard and the remains of an old chain link fence embeded in the hedge, i.e., old metal fence posts. I can't even remember the other girl's name now, but we were riding our tricycles up and down the sidewalk and up to the front door and back. Apparently one or the other of us bumped one of those old metal fence posts. Living inside was a nest of hornets. They swarmed out of there like their little tails were on fire and lit into us. Well, me, actually, as the other girl ran up to the house screaming for help. Both moms came pelting out of the house, but it wasn't fast enough to save me. I was stung on the base of my skull by about a dozen of these nasties. Up until that time there was no problem with the occasional bee sting other than the usual unpleasantness associated with it. But this was a really excessive stinging. By the time my mom could rush me to the hospital I had stopped breathing, my heart had stopped and I was turning blue, so she told me. Needless to say I lived (duh) but was terribly allergic to all bee/wasp venom from then on. No more flowery little girl perfume (I used to love Avon's stick honeysuckle scented stuff), no more sugar sweetened drinks left outside (so nothing could get in and sting me), and so forth. Momma carried a hypodermic of anti-venom for years but luckily never had to use it. After that one massive stinging, I don't remember ever being stung again as a child. The last time I was stung was when my son was little, something like 25 years ago. It wasn't even a sting, really. My boyfriend at the time was trying to kill a wasp by flicking it with a towel like they were in the locker room or something. Well the towel hit the wasp and the wasp ricocheted off my arm, stinger first. It hit the back of my wrist and by the time I could go down a single flight of stairs to the bathroom, my arm had swollen up so hard and so fast that the arm of my T-shirt was cutting into my flesh. Got me cut out of the shirt and off to the hospital for treatment. And I haven't been stung since, either. I suppose I should still carry anti venom with me but I guess I like to live dangerously :D About 7 years ago I had to be tested for allergies and mentioned to the doctor that I was allergic to bee stings as a child. He thought it the better part of valor NOT to test me for that particular antigen during the scratch test. So even though I haven't been stung in a long time, I assume I would have a similar reaction today sigh. Ain't life grand? grin -- Ruth Omnia vincit Amor; et nos cedamus Amori. ~ Virgil To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] FW: Wasps !
This has nothing whatsoever to do with the sensible chat about wasps etc - but funny IMO. A world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps is walking down the High Street one day when he spots an advert in his local record shop for Wasp sounds from around the globe. On further enquiry he discovers that a vinyl recording of this subject has just been released and a few copies are available in store there and then. Naturally, being a world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps he is curious and asks the young chap behind the counter if he can have a listen to Wasp sounds from around the globe. A few seconds later the world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps is standing at one of those little sound stations with his headphones on and a puzzled expression on his face. He removes the headphones, walks back to the counter and catches the young sales persons attention. Excuse me he says, I'm a world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps and I've just been listening to Wasp sounds from around the globe, and I must say, there appears to be some mistake. Those are no wasp sounds with which I am familiar. The young man dutifully checks the recording in question and assures the world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps that he is indeed listening to Wasp sounds from around the globe. Puzzled, the world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps returns to the headphones and once again begins to listen. After a few seconds he once again returns to the counter and accosts the young fellow there. Excuse me he says, As I mentioned before, I am a world renowned expert in the sounds of European wasps and I've just been listening to Wasp sounds from around the globe and I have to say again, those are no wasp sounds with which I am familiar. Are you certain I have been listening to the correct recording? Slightly exasperated by now, the young man checks the disc currently playing and with a slightly sheepish grin confesses: . . . . . . . . . Oops, sorry Sir, I seem to have played you the Bee side [EMAIL PROTECTED] in North Herts, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bug stories
Hi All -- I've enjoyed reading all of the stories about bugs. The wasps-in-the pants stories remind me of a time when my son was small, and I was out weeding the garden. There was an ant colony there, as I soon discovered -- the biting kind, don't you know! Needless to say, a bunch of them crawled up inside my long pants, and started biting my legs. I ran into the house to take off my pants, swatting my legs, and breathlessly telling my son what had happened, as I ran to my room. Just then the phone rang. My son answered the call, and I heard him say, She can't come to the phone right now. She has ants in her pants! No doubt he had heard that phrase, somewhere, and figured that was the right thing to say! Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Queen bees
Suzy is half right here. The queen can sting and sting and sting. BUT, apart from her one and only mating flight, the queen (honey bee) doesn't leave the hive by herself. The only other time she leaves is if the hive gets overcrowded in which case she will take about half of the bees with her as a swarm, which I already wrote about the other day. In a swarm, she will be in the middle as it is her pheromones that keep the swarm together, and so she won't be stinging anything. The reason why the queen can sting and sting is because if the worker bees decide to build queen cells, and feed the larvae accordingly so they develop as young queens instead of workers, the old queen will sting the nearly developed queen in her cocoon before she hatches. Simplifying it, usually the only time a queen cell will be able to produce a living queen is after the original queen has left with a swarm. Sometimes then two or three will hatch at much the same time and scrap it out between them as only one will survive. If anything should happen to the old queen, so long as there are newly laid eggs in the hive, the queenless state of the hive will trigger the workers into producing queen cells. Within three weeks a new queen should hatch, but she then has to fly out and find and mate with drone bees before she can return and start laying. As the fully developed bees only live for about six weeks in summer, this means that practically a whole generation is lost, so beekeepers are very careful with their queens. Jacquie To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Re: silkworms
BrambleLane writes: I would be interested in knowing why it is considered cruelty to animals. Lynn Carpenter writes: I think that must be the point when cocoons for reeling are put in boiling water, killing the caterpillars before they chew their way out. Silly of me...! I keep forgetting that part, since I don't do it myself! And, Ricki, I haven't reeled any yet, well, I did some a few years ago that is now a tangles mass. But, yes, I probably would make lace of some. I'll probably knit some lace if I ever spin enough. It's that 'spare time' thing, you know? Margaret in PA On The Wing Mailing Services Presorting and List Hygiene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bramblelane.tripod.com/onthewing.html To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bug stories
Well, don't be complacent, Ruth. The next time could be really bad, depending on where the sting happens and how many insects are involved. There might not be time to get to the emergency room. Carrying the anti-venin would seem to be a small thing to do if it could make the difference between leaving your family suddenly or being around to see the great-grandkids. 36 years ago, I was stung by a yellow-jacket when my foot moved over its burrow in a park. It just hurt like crazy, and left a pit in my skin that's still there. About 18 years ago, I was stung by yellow-jackets (living in a wooden retaining wall) as I left a classroom building. Being encumbered at the time with paint cans, I couldn't brush at them or make a speedy retreat. I only got stung a couple of times, but the sting spot swelling kept getting bigger day by day rather than smaller. In about 3 days it had gotten to maybe 4 inches across, and my allergy doctor put me on steroids. About 4 or 5 years ago I got stung by yellow-jackets again - this time about 12 times, in my own back yard, living under a railroad tie that edged my garden where I was pulling weeds. I immediately called my allergy doctor and got a prescription for the steroids phoned in, because I just didn't feel like finding out how bad it could get.The spot kept growing until I was able to fetch the pills and start taking them. Some things I just don't need to experience to the full. Tamara, don't assume Danek is safe. He may well now be sensitized, and the next time he may react. I've lived for years with kids so sensitive to nuts that walking into a room where they've been served in brownies is enough to make throats start to close up - so I figure an injected venom is nothing to fool around with. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Bug stories
On Aug 8, 2005, at 22:01, Martha Krieg wrote: Tamara, don't assume Danek is safe. He may well now be sensitized, and the next time he may react. I don't. But I feel it's reasonable to assume that he'll have more time than I did to react. If he had the normal (ca 1/4) bump the first time, then his second sting should take several hours before it showed itself as being obnoxious. Unlike my first sting, which was obnoxious within a few hours. Unless, of course, he gets multiple stings around the head, like Ruth did... The trouble with carrying an Epi-Pen with you every time you step out is that the dratted things have past date like everything else; you don't use it within a year, you have to throw it away and get a new prescription. And then there's also the matter of decision as to *when* to carry it with you... If you step out to the garden to pick apples or tomatoes or whatever, you're less than a minute from the house, so there's plenty of time to run in and act. As to the bicarb for bees and vinegar for wasps (and jello for yellow jackets and horseradish for hornets, maybe? g)... Am I gonna stop and try to observe the beast that got me, then try to remember what I'd learnt in school about the markings (which, possibly, aren't the same as what I'd learnt 40 yrs ago in Poland, anyway)? Not likely... :) If it's yellow and black and it stings, it's an enemy and danger-red. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] .......And flying things
So being the obedient type she was, she stood still patiently and waited for it to fly away -- and the bee stung her on the arm! I'll never forget that!!! Since then, I always have brushed them away -- or rather, flailed away at them and run away! i had to stay in for recess one day for not standing still when a bee flew around the classroom in kindtergarden. i am no fool! you stand there and you are just a bee sting cushion! the other girl you mentioned probably eats glass and rocks for show! lol! how could you let a bee sting you? no way! from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: :-) Thought for the day
On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:37, Jean Nathan wrote: If you consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000. The rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our Nation's Capitol (which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation) than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately pull out of Washington D.C. Yes, well... Look at it from another point of view... I don't know about the US allies, but the US troops (majority) are not conscripts; they're in the Army/Navy/Marines because they chose to be. They may not have signed up with the idea they'd die or be maimed (physically or emotionally) in Iraq, in exchange for a chance of decent education, but, they're there more or less voluntarily. What your thought for the day compares them to is *civillians*, who neither signed up nor are paid for taking risks with their lives. So, let's compare civillians (in DC) to civillians (in Iraq), and *their* chances of survival; the numbers are apt to look quite different then. And, BTW, I consider the Iraqi troops - the main target, currently - civillians also; most of them are mowed down before they're trained for battle; some even before they sign up, as they're standing in line. If you want to compare apples and apples instead of apples and oranges, you could try comparing deaths of DC policemen and firemen to those of troops in Iraq. Your thought for the day sounds to me like something Dick Cheney might have said at a Republican rally; facile, blurring the edges of truth, distasteful... but in keeping with his general philosophy (no, I'm not flaming anyone or wanting to start a flame war. But I'm with Donne on the every man's death diminishes me, and I hate it; *hate it*, when anyone other than a suicide bomber gets killed or injured) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Wasp story
By the time my mom could rush me to the hospital I had stopped breathing, my heart had stopped and I was turning blue, so she told me. Needless to say I lived (duh) but was terribly allergic to all bee/wasp venom from then on. i am so sorry. i think that is terrible. that would be like having your whole childhood taken away not being able to play outside any more without so much precaution. i would have been scared i wouldn't have gone out at all. you are so lucky to be here today. i have a similar story that was not funny at all about a guy here in tennessee that got into a car accident. he didn't get into a bad accident and would have been hardly hurt, but the car window got smashed when he slammed into a tree and the tree had a bees nest of some kind built in it. he was stung so many times and he didn't have a way to the hospital that he never had a chance. he didn't die from the crash, only from the bee stings. all the modern inventions in the world still can't stop mother nature. she is still the worst killer. from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Oldie but goodie...
As my source says in the subject line... :) And we're all adult enough here to read it, no? From: C.B.2 A college professor was doing a study testing the senses of first graders, using a bowl of lifesavers. He gave all the children the same kind of lifesavers, one at a time, and asked them to identify them by color and flavor . The children began: Redcherry, Yellow.lemon, Green..lime, Orangeorange. Finally the professor gave them all a HONEY-flavored lifesaver. After eating them for a few moments none of the children could identify the taste. Well, he said I'll give you all a clue. It's what your mother may sometimes call your father. One little girl looked up in horror, spit hers out and yelled, Oh My Gosh ~ They're assholes!!! -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
