[lace-chat] Genealogy - was Bastardy Order
> The knowledge of why members of the family moved is intriguing. Sometimes Well, I know why the families - both my husband's parents' - came to Canada: they followed the call of "Free Land" - of course nothing in life is free. Granddad paid dearly, had a good job as payroll clerk at the mine in Darton, YKS, and ended up a farmer who lost everything - due to a fire - nine months after setting foot in Canada. All he had was that 'free land' that still had to be cleared to make it suitable for farming. > in England, which may give me the clue I need. I really do sympathise with > those trying to trace their family from outside the UK. I have not found any problems - except with the size of my wallet ;-( Where parish registers are accessible on film, I use the facilities of the Mormons, the Family History Centre. For certificates, I use FreeBMD where possible (on-line), and the indices on fiche at the FHC. Then save up my pennies to order them from England. > Now as yet, I haven't found a lacemaker in my ancestry - but you can be sure > that if I found one, I would follow that link avidly. I live in hope of Yes, ditto here. When browsing the 1881 census, I have found a number of bobbin turners, bobbin winders (probably to do with the weaving industry, not lace making), and even some lace-makers. None of them my husband's family though. > myself with yeomen farmers, miners, workers in the cotton industry, > shepherds and labourers. Waterman, joiner, shipwright, boot & shoe dealer, servant, salt worker, are some of the trades I found amongst the family. I have the 1881 index here at home - anyone interested how many bobbin turners, lace workers, lace makers, etc, there were in each county in England? Shouldn't be too hard to sort them out... Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Bastardy Order - was Sisters
> affection, his background is something of a non-starter in genealogy. Genealogy > seems to be a science where one is looking for biological relatives, not legal > relatives. I just want to get my two-bits worth in here, too ;-)) I have come to the conclusion that 'genealogy' can mean anything you want it too, and I really don't use the word a whole lot any more. I prefer 'Family History'. And in the Family's History, both biological and natural parents find a place. Maybe I'm just a collector ;-) Our daughter-in-law was adopted when quite young, she does know her biological parents, and I am researching both her adoptive and her natural families. But... here's another angle on 'genealogy'. I have hears it said, that refugees, who fled for example from France to England, took their lace skills with them. Has anyone ever put this kind of thing into a 'genealogy' - Lille from France married Bucks from England and produced. I don't know enough about lace history to tackle something like this, nor do I have the time to do the research, but I find the idea very fascinating Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] recipe help needed
> Help! I've found a lovely recipe for strawberry tarts, but the pastry recipe > contains a measurement with which I'm unfamilar, unless it's a misprint on the > website. The recipe calls for "2 dsps icing sugar." Can anyone tell me what > what or how much a "dsps" is? Thurlow, could you give us either the recipe or the URL where it can be found? My first thought is that it should be tsps for teaspoons, but such a small amount of icing sugar does not seem reasonable for any recipe I would like to have a look at the recipe itself Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Gallon size - was: Tax Freedom Days
> >gallon (using Jean's ratio of 3.75 litres per gallon). American gallons contain 3.785 litres > > especially when a service is due!) and a gallon (eight imperial pints) > is 4.54 litres - Jean seems to be a little out in her calculation? and Imperial gallons contain 4.546 litres. So, Jean is not out in her calculation, just uses a different gallon ;-)) Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] The Famous Five
> likely, I wonder if you are combining them in memory with another series that you Memory's no longer as agile as it once was > island - Kirrin island - or when they were all off on camping holidays. I read and this line rings a loud bell. I also remember something about pirates and caves. Do you know the author and title(s) for this series, Jacquie? I'll probably be stopping at the bookstore tomorrow to see what they've got. I was told that the public library here also has a good children's section, and I'll have a look there. I haven't been to that section at all, my 'baby' will be 29 this summer and my grandchildren, who are of the right age (12, 11, 10 and 8) live too far away. I also want to thank everyone who has responded to my question. With all this help I shal either relive part of my childhood, or enjoy my second childhood ;-))) Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Nancy Drew books
> Georgie was one of the characters in the "Famous five" books by Enid Blyton. > They are still in print in Britain in paperback and I am sure you could > obtain copies vis Amazon. > Oh, thank you Patricia - I will check with our large bookstore here first, with a title and author you get so much farther than with just a description, especially if the staff don't know the books! Thankyou so much! Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Nancy Drew books
> I read the Trixie Belden series. Owned a few and got the rest from the > library. It is too bad our kids and grand-kids have television so handy as > reading was much better for the mind. On this subject of books, I hope someone can help me with this one. As a young girl I really enjoyed a series of book about 'the five' five girls, the ringleader was a girl named Georgina, but know as George due to the fact that she was a tomboy. I'd love to read some of these books again, but for the life of me can't remember title or author. Anyone? Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Not quite lace
> I just uploaded the Dutch postcard that Deborah found on Ebay a couple of > weeks ago. Not really lace but shows a nice example of a period Dutch > costume cap. You can see it at www.bobbinmaker.com/dutchpostcard.html > Kenn, the girl, who is from the 'Zaanstreek', the area Northwest of Amsterdam, is actually wearing two caps. One is fitted snugly around her head, and although difficult to see in this picture, is actually made of lace. I have not been able to find out what the top one is made of. The costume in this area has totally disappeared, but if you go just a bit further north, to the area called West Friesland, a similar snug-fitting cap is worn, although the piece that hangs down the back is much fuller and pleated. Not everyday-dress, it is still being worn for special occasions. Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Language is bizarre
> >On a pewter candle snuffer I purchased, the following warning: > "Do not use on open flame" > Excuse me? It's a candle SNUFFER! :-> > Or the tv ad: "Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go Do you need a break? Not now..." and a voice cuts in at the end: Do not use if... you have urinary problems. u Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] did you know that ?
Where did you get this! Is it a website? Can we have the url? If you copy the sentence into Google, enclosed in quotation marks, you'll find it, and some other stuff as well ;-)) http://www.dribbleglass.com/subpages/laws2.htm Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] St. Nicholas Day Info Needed
It is my understanding that somewhere in the world, children put out their shoes before they go to bed & St. Nicholas leaves treats in them if the children have been good. Am I correct in this? You sure are!!! This is how it went in our house: Starting about a week before December 5th, we set our shoes near the hearth, together with a plate with a carrot 'for the horse'. The next morning we would find a cookie or a candy, never very much - and only if we'd been good. If we'd been bad (misbehaving) it would be a lump of coal instead. The last time we set our shoes was on December 4th to find a sweet on the morning of December 5th. Then in the evening about the time the supperdishes were cleared away, the tension rose - till suddenly there was loud banging on the door. We ran to open the door, tripping over each other (there were six of us ;-)) and always found a large bag full of presents outside the door. Usually the honour of handing them out fell to my Dad. Once my Dad's youngest brother and his then fiancée played the roles of St Nicholas and Black Peter, and brought the presents to our home, and once Dad had a bit of a windfall in November and Mom and Dad hired someone to come to hand out the presents. It took me many years to figure out that it was our next-door neighbor placing the bag at the door and doing the banging, and the thing was timed very well, because while we were busy cleaning up the supperdishes, Dad would do the same thing next-door, where they had had supper a bit earlier than us. Oh, and BTW, this happened in Holland, we were living in the city of Rotterdam then. Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Roads/blocks
digits, for example 1358 Smith Street. Is there a 3 Smith Street? Is Smith Street really that long that it has over 1,358 houses in it, or is your numbering system based on some other principle! Some other principle ;-)) Say that Smith Street runs North-South, and 13th Avenue crosses it East-West. The house numbers between 13th and 14th Avenue would all be 13xx, odd numbers on one side of the street, even numbers on the opposite. Then you have a city like Vancouver, British Columbia, where the numbering begins on the northern edge of the city, but the first so many streets are named, and after that become numbered. The housenumbers are 'out' by, I believe it is 1600. So that the house numbers between 28th and 29th Avenue, on the streets running North-South would be 44xx. The streets running North-South in the City of Vancouver are all named, but the house numbers all begin at Main Street. So even if you have a very short street, you can still have high house numbers Very confusing until you get used to the system and you can find any address just from its numbers. Esther To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] viruses
>We have been having problems with viruses, yes we do have a virus checker, >I always update before I even download. > Whatever you do, DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENTS THAT COME WITH THE MESSAGES. It looks like about half come from Microsoft (NOT), telling you to update, and giving the link, and the other half are notifications that a message could not be delivered to whatever address. Make sure your antivirus program is up to date, if you use Windows, find the Windows Update button on your system (stalled when you installed Windows) and make sure all the critical updates are in place, and again, DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS. Microsoft does not send their stuff out - you have to go to their website to get it! If you get an attachment from someone you know, save it to your hard drive, and have your virus scanner check it out. Or send an email to the sender, asking if they intended to send you an attachment. If it proves to be a virus, it might be an idea to inform the sender (nicely ;-) ) that their system might be infected If *everybody* would keep to these simple rules, virus infections would soon be drastically reduced Keep dreaming, Esther ;-((( OK, I 'm off to kill a few more messages with virus attached, they're arriving by the score (more than 300 in the last three days) Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] lace in fashion
While going through some old newspapers for my genealogy project, I came upon the following article: This is from the Lloydminster Times, 22 September 1910: - A Lace Revival. This is distincly a season of lace and lacey effects. Besides the drapings of chiffon and all kinds of veilings, tunics and overblouses are being made of rare old Spanish and Chantilly lace both in black and cream color. The all-lace coat is more fashionable in thinner laces than in Irish which was so much used last year. Maline lace holds first place in popularity. Tiny edges of this lace are used on turn-down collars of embroiderd lawn and to edge plaited and gathered frills for blouses. An odd fancy is to show little frills of Maline on the inner hems of silk coats, and deeper ruffles of it edged lingerie hats. Charming lingerie hats of mob shape are made entirely of all-over laces with a frill of narrow lace to match. They rest well down on the face and have no other trimming than a big bow of ribbon or a single big flower. Irish lace is used more this season for plain linen and cotton blouses and the narrow edging is preferred. There are always women who will wear all-over lace, but the tiny effects are in better style. These are especially good on ties and rabats, and trimming the narrow boxed plaits of thin tailored shirtwaists. German Valenciennes is better liked for underwear than for frocks this summer, thought it is one of those laces that never goes out of style. - So, if you're making a dress of that period. Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia Esther Perry To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
