[lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

2009-07-28 Thread Thurlow Weed

Spiders,

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with a perplexing health situation, 
and I'm hoping that our vast knowledge base might contribute something 
useful (as it so often does!).


For several months now, I've been dealing with chronic insomnia.  It 
appears to have initially been brought about my colon stasis ("polite" 
way of saying I was plugged up for a while).  That was dealt with, diet 
changed to be much healthier.  My doc suspected my thyroid might be 
involved as well, and testing determined I'm mildly hypothyroid.  So now 
I'm on medication - Armour Thyroid 30mg.  After a couple of weeks, the 
doc re-checked TSH levels and saw that although they had gone down, he 
felt they hadn't gone down enough in those two weeks, so he increased 
the dosage to 60mg.  Since then my insomnia has gotten worse (every 
other night I'm unable to fall asleep, even with sleeping pills).


I've just spent quite some time online searching medical forums about 
this, and have learned that too high a dosage can cause marked 
insomnia.  A coworker of mine who also has hypothyroidism (for many, 
many years) said it takes time to lower TSH levels, one has to be 
patient.  I'm also looking up info on hypothyroid friendly diets.


So I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experience to what I'm 
dealing with here.  Any input/thoughts, etc are most welcome!


Thurlow Weed
Lancaster OH
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[lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

2009-07-28 Thread Jean Nathan
I don't have a thyroid problem, but I have suffered from insomnia all my 
life. As a child my mother used ply me with warm milk, play quiet music, 
read stories or just to sit with me on nights I couldn't go to sleep, until 
I told her it wasn't helping and I didn't really mind being awake all night.


I still spend some nights awake (about one in a fortnight), but I don't 
worry about it. If I don't fall asleep within half an hour, I usually read 
for a while and then just relax and listen to night noises until about 6.30 
am.


I've heard that you can't sleep if you're too warm, and that you go to sleep 
as your body temperature falls - not helpful if you suffer from hot flushes. 
So having a hot bath before going to bed can help because you cool down 
after a bath, but having a hot drink warms your core so is the wrong thing 
to do. Never helped me.


Worrying about it can make it worse.

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

2009-07-29 Thread Jean Nathan
Adding to my previous post, last night was one of insomnia. I was wide awake 
until 4 am. Got up, went to the loo, had a drink, went back to bed and fell 
straight asleep. Woke up at 6.30 am completely refreshed.


I can't sleep away from home, and 6 years ago I had a knee replacement. 
Slept the night of the op, probably because of the anaesthetic still in my 
system, and then didn't sleep at all for the following 5 days, until I was 
discharged. I spent the nights listening to the radio through headphones. 
The medical staff were aware that I wasn't sleeping, but weren't worried 
because I was still alert and behaving normally, so obviously not suffering 
from lack of sleep. They didn't offer sleeping tablets, but did give them to 
patients who asked for them, but I felt absolutely fine so didn't want to 
take anything. When I got home I went to bed at home at the normal time, and 
my sleep pattern returned to normal of one sleepless night about every two 
weeks.


It's a different matter if I can't sleep because my arthritis is causing 
pain or discomfort. Then I feel completely wrung out the following day.


If you're only anxious about not being able to sleep, but it isn't affecting 
you in any other way, I'd just accept it and not worry. If it is affecting 
you, then I'd try to do something about it.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

2009-07-28 Thread David C COLLYER

At 03:39 AM 29/07/2009, Jean Nathan wrote:
I don't have a thyroid problem, but I have suffered from insomnia 
all my life. As a child my mother used ply me with warm milk,


Whenever we were ill as children, our mother gave us a real treat 
which always put us off to sleep. It was Granny's famous "Nutmeg drink".


It was only as an adult that I learned about the actual sedative 
qualities of nutmeg.


Take a tall glass of tepid milk (Mum always insisted that it MUST be 
tepid - too hot or cold and the nutmeg won't work - i.e. body temperature)

Stir in a teaspoon of sugar.
Then take one LEVEL teaspoon of powdered or ground nutmeg and stir it 
in briskly. Then drink it down as you go to bed. Nutmeg does not 
dissolve well but enough gets in. It's really yummy


Hope it helps
David in Ballarat - wide awake at 0400hrs!!!

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Re: [lace-chat] OT: thyroid question

2009-07-29 Thread H. Muth

Hello all,

As I have had hypothyroidism for a long time now, I thought that I'd 
mention that insomnia is a symptom of the disease.  All the suggestions for 
getting to sleep do help, but only if the treatment is 
working.  Unfortunately, fatigue is also a symptom - deadly, mind-numbing 
fatigue that no amount of sleep will counteract.  Thankfully, it seems that 
Thurlow has only a mild case of it and with treatment should return to 
normal.


I should also point out, Thurlow that a dosage that works _now_ may not 
work in the future as circumstances change.  My own prescription has been 
altered many times over the years as stresses and physical ailments change 
my needs.


Heather Muth,
Abbotsford, BC
Where it is _much_ too hot!

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