[lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
Ricki in Utah writes: I've thought about raising silkworms in my mulberry trees, too, until I heard someone explain it's cruelty to animals. Ricki, I am in my second season of raising silkworms. I am a handspinner. And I intend to use the silk from them. I would be interested in knowing why it is considered cruelty to animals. I guess when you think about it, any kind of farming could be considered cruelty. If you raise them in the tree, you would likely be feeding the birds. Silkworms are usually raised indoors, as the larvae lack protective coloring and protective behaviors. They have been domesticated for thousands of years, and are said to be unable to live on their own. They are very tiny when they hatch from the egg, and grow at a phenomenal rate. Just my two cents! I'm finding the thread quite amusing! The Jerk- there's another movie we'll have to look for... Margaret in PA On The Wing Mailing Services Presorting and List Hygiene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bramblelane.tripod.com/onthewing.html To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
In a message dated 8/7/2005 9:20:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ricki, I am in my second season of raising silkworms. I am a handspinner. > And I intend to use the silk from them. I would be interested in knowing > why it is considered cruelty to animals. I guess when you think about it, > any kind of farming could be considered cruelty. If you raise them in the > tree, you would likely be feeding the birds. Silkworms are usually raised > indoors, as the larvae lack protective coloring and protective behaviors. > They have been domesticated for thousands of years, and are said to be > unable to live on their own. They are very tiny when they hatch from the > egg, and grow at a phenomenal rate. Hmm - I'm wracking my brain trying to remember where I heard that it was cruelty to animals, but it was in the context of comparing it to wool and cotton, whose "host" lives on. I didn't think about feeding the birds if I tried to grow silkworms in my mulberry trees, but I'm sure that's right, now that you mention it. Also, I didn't know that silkworms have been domesticated like that - interesting! And I do I think an argument could be made that silk is an improvement over silk moths. > > Just my two cents! I'm finding the thread quite amusing! The Jerk- there's > another movie we'll have to look for... > :<) Martin then orders the waiter imperiously: "Take this plate away and bring back another one WITHOUT snails!" Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
Ricki writes: "Hmm - I'm wracking my brain trying to remember where I heard that it was cruelty to animals, but it was in the context of comparing it to wool and cotton, whose "host" lives on." Commercial silk farmers do kill the larvae so that the cocoons can be reeled (unwound). I don't much care for the thought of that, either. (OTOH, I'm not about to stop buying silk.) However, in my own experience, not all the cocoons hatch, anyway. So, I let things go as they will, and those that do not hatch can be reeled, and those that do can be washed and carded. No loss! ;-) Snailseu! Margaret in PA On The Wing Mailing Services Presorting and List Hygiene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bramblelane.tripod.com/onthewing.html To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
i think it is when they kill the worm before it comes out of the caccoon so they can have the silk unbroken that it is considered cruel. it is supposed to be stronger that way. i have never bought either kind of silk fiber, but they sell them both in most fiber stores. --- BrambleLane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ricki in Utah writes: I've thought about raising silkworms in my > mulberry > trees, too, until I heard someone explain it's cruelty to animals. > > Ricki, I am in my second season of raising silkworms. I am a > handspinner. > And I intend to use the silk from them. I would be interested in > knowing > why it is considered cruelty to animals. I guess when you think > about it, > any kind of farming could be considered cruelty. If you raise them > in the > tree, you would likely be feeding the birds. Silkworms are usually > raised > indoors, as the larvae lack protective coloring and protective > behaviors. > They have been domesticated for thousands of years, and are said to > be > unable to live on their own. They are very tiny when they hatch from > the > egg, and grow at a phenomenal rate. > > Just my two cents! I'm finding the thread quite amusing! The Jerk- > there's > another movie we'll have to look for... > > Margaret in PA > > On The Wing > Mailing Services > Presorting and List Hygiene > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://bramblelane.tripod.com/onthewing.html > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
In a message dated 8/7/2005 2:12:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Commercial silk farmers do kill the larvae so that the cocoons can be reeled (unwound). I don't much care for the thought of that, either. (OTOH, I'm not about to stop buying silk.) However, in my own experience, not all the cocoons hatch, anyway. So, I let things go as they will, and those that do not hatch can be reeled, and those that do can be washed and carded. No loss! ;-) Margaret, I'm wondering if you could tell me/us a bit more about handspinning silk? Do you use a drop spindle? Is silk hard to card and spin? What do you do with your thread once it's spun (make lace? :<)) And if you don't mind, a bit more about growing silkworms too! Thanks! Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: creepy/crawlies silkworms
i was curious how small of a bin can you keep and still grow them. also what is the total amount of silk you recieve per batch and how often in the year can you regrow them. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 8/7/2005 2:12:13 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Commercial silk farmers do kill the larvae so that the cocoons can be > reeled > (unwound). I don't much care for the thought of that, either. > (OTOH, I'm > not about to stop buying silk.) However, in my own experience, not > all the > cocoons hatch, anyway. So, I let things go as they will, and those > that do > not hatch can be reeled, and those that do can be washed and carded. > No > loss! ;-) > Margaret, I'm wondering if you could tell me/us a bit more about > handspinning > silk? Do you use a drop spindle? Is silk hard to card and spin? What > do you > do with your thread once it's spun (make lace? :<)) And if you don't > mind, a > bit more about growing silkworms too! > > Thanks! > > Ricki > Utah > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the > line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from susan in tennessee,u.s.a. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
